2005 MLB Playoffs Thread [Archive] - Page 2

Corkscrewed

10-10-2005, 11:47 PM

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Dragon

10-10-2005, 11:50 PM

Yankees left 11 runners on base, Matsui left 8. Ridiculous.

Corkscrewed

10-10-2005, 11:58 PM

Shit, we got a game tomorrow. Red eye flight. Hope they brought a lot of coffee.

YOUR Hero

10-10-2005, 11:58 PM

Angels Vs White Sox - I'll root for the White Sox. Just barely. If it wasn't for Vlad (Expos) on those Angels, I'd have no fondness for them at all.

Houston VS St Luois - I guess the Astros. Although I've really had enough of Clemens and wouldn't mind seeing Larry Walker do well... Actually yeah, I dunno, toss up on this one.

el fregadero

10-11-2005, 12:09 AM

Alright, I don't pay very close attention to AL baseball, but when did Bellhorn go to the Yankees?

Dragon

10-11-2005, 12:26 AM

Halfway through the season.

Innovator

10-11-2005, 01:01 AM

Story of the Yankees' season. So many guys left on base it's ridiculous

Corkscrewed

10-11-2005, 02:06 AM

How do you like your $200 million now, Mr. Steinbrenner? :D

CNM

10-11-2005, 02:11 AM

Always nice to see the Bankees get eliminated. Cano looked like he was about to cry.

Hardkore Kidd J

10-11-2005, 08:44 AM

Alright, I don't pay very close attention to AL baseball, but when did Bellhorn go to the Yankees?
Not too long ago on Boston I heard this season wasn't too good for Bellhorn so Yankees got him.

I don't see why all the hate toward the Yankees. But fuck it I don't care. Now that they're out I guess White Sox are my choice.

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 09:43 AM

I don't hate on the Yankees personally, I just know I'm happier seeing the Angels go forward.

Hardkore Kidd J

10-11-2005, 09:54 AM

I don't hate on the Yankees personally, I just know I'm happier seeing the Angels go forward.

I was just about to ask you was there any reason you wanted to see them move forward but then I remembered seeing a post a little while ago from you somewhere on this board. You wanted to see them move up because Vlad Guererro or whoever it was who was from the Montreal Expo's move up and since he is on the Angel's now you want to see them move up. I'm cool with that. :y:

Loose Cannon

10-11-2005, 10:28 AM

Let this game and this series be a blueprint of why you can't play a one sided game of baseball and win a playoff series. Yankees came in trying to win with power/scoring a lot of runs and when your 2,4 and 5 hitters go 5 for 60 or whatever it was, you're dead. Thier defense killed them in the games they lost, They have limited speed in thier starting lineup, They don't have great contact hitters, and thier pitching was a huge question mark.

They better make a shit load of changes in the off season and get guys that play great together as a unit. Guys that can give you that complete baseball team. Cause right now, they're not even close to that.

BCWWF

10-11-2005, 02:23 PM

Angels Vs White Sox - I'll root for the White Sox. Just barely. If it wasn't for Vlad (Expos) on those Angels, I'd have no fondness for them at all.

I agree. The Angels are no better then the Yanks or Red Sox really, in free agency philosophy. The only thing is that Vlad is their only cool player, Sox have Damon, Ortiz, Manny, etc. who are the man and Jeter, Cano, I'll even say A-Rod is the man too. Angels were the better team, but just because they aren't the Yankees doesn't make them a cool team in my book.

Loose Cannon

10-11-2005, 02:52 PM

anybody got a list of all the free agents next year? Miz, you probably know.

Dragon

10-11-2005, 07:28 PM

http://www.mlb4u.com/freeagent.html

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 08:41 PM

I was wondering what happened to Tony Batista.

2 year 15M dollar contract to play in Japan. Not too shabbby

Loose Cannon

10-11-2005, 08:44 PM

I love Byrd's windup. It's so old school. And he's got the stirrups pulled all the way up :y:

Loose Cannon

10-11-2005, 09:11 PM

lol, they've been talking about the Yankees just about every inning.

something about former Yankee pitchers still in the playoffs just came up.

Dragon

10-11-2005, 09:25 PM

Yeah, I've must of heard how Pettite, Clemens, Duque, and Contreras are all in the playoffs like 10 times on shows today.

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 09:31 PM

The Miz

10-11-2005, 09:34 PM

The Angels piss me off because they win every game by getting 84567678236587956 bloop hits and 1 big hit. How many times was Mussina hit hard last night? Twice?

Also, all their fans were Dodger fans before 2002.

Dragon

10-11-2005, 09:42 PM

Now that the Yankees are gone, hoping to see Sox vs. Astros

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 09:43 PM

Hit 'em where they ain't.

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 09:44 PM

Question:

Shoud a guy that gets thrown out 26 times trying to steal a base be given the 'green light' to steal so much?

BCWWF

10-11-2005, 10:02 PM

Who?

The Miz

10-11-2005, 10:04 PM

SCOTTY

STRETCH

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 10:08 PM

Well anybody, but that's what they said about Posednick.

BCWWF

10-11-2005, 10:26 PM

It probably has something to do with him stealing basically anytime he gets on base

YOUR Hero

10-11-2005, 10:44 PM

He only stole 59 bases. That's plain terrible.

10-11-2005, 10:48 PM

Stupid Bartman.:roll:

BCWWF

10-11-2005, 11:30 PM

He was injured

The Outlaw

10-12-2005, 12:11 AM

59/85. So that's like what, 65-70 %? Not good at all. I didn't even realize that.

10-12-2005, 09:35 PM

Rob Quinlan :roll:

10-12-2005, 09:39 PM

You know what. Baseball has to be the stupidest schedulers in sports. I much rather watch the NLCS, but i have to sit and watch the ALCS, because Bud Selig doesnt know how make a fucking playoffs schedule. Why cant there be one game a night. I understand the rain out happend, but there really is no excuse. Reschedule some shit or something. God this sucks.

Dragon

10-12-2005, 09:41 PM

Both games are on TV. One is on FOX and one is on FX.

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 09:44 PM

yeah I'm flipping back and forth.

but one should have been 2 hours ealierr or something so a guy could watch most of both.

10-12-2005, 09:55 PM

Both games are on TV. One is on FOX and one is on FX.

I love you.

I didnt even think to check FX.

10-12-2005, 09:55 PM

Sorry Bud.

10-12-2005, 09:55 PM

Fucking Cardinals scored again.

10-12-2005, 09:57 PM

Andy must still be sick

10-12-2005, 10:22 PM

Chris Burke! Fuck yes!

10-12-2005, 10:23 PM

Burke is on fire.

10-12-2005, 10:39 PM

If burke could just bat every at bat for the Astros right now.

The Outlaw

10-12-2005, 10:50 PM

Fuck Chris Burke.

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 10:52 PM

Fuck Chris Burke.

What did he ever do to y...

:rofl:

10-12-2005, 10:52 PM

Chris Burke is your daddy. Astros are gunna rally here.

10-12-2005, 10:53 PM

Ooo... thats right. You like the Braves...hrmmm.

The Outlaw

10-12-2005, 10:54 PM

I also hate him because he went to school at the University of Thugs.

AKA Tennessee.

Fuck Chris Burke. Fuck that nigga! FUCK YOU HERO!!! :MAD:

10-12-2005, 10:55 PM

That was a pretty low strike call.

10-12-2005, 10:55 PM

Peyton Manning = Thug.

The Outlaw

10-12-2005, 10:56 PM

LOL he mooned a UT girl trainer

So he is the man.

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:03 PM

LOL @ the strikeout, but Molina rolls it to the mound as the ump thought it hit the ground. wow

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:04 PM

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Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:04 PM

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Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:06 PM

HAHAHAHAHA, what a fucking moment

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 11:07 PM

10-12-2005, 11:08 PM

Angels just got robbed.

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 11:09 PM

This series needed this though. It's lacked emotion, this should spice it up some.

10-12-2005, 11:10 PM

Molina should have thrown it to first anyways. It was close, but honestly how would he know any different when the Ump called A.J out twice.

Angels got robbed big time.

10-12-2005, 11:10 PM

Ehh not Molina..Whoever the catcher was.

The Miz

10-12-2005, 11:10 PM

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:11 PM

That might be the worst call ever. White Sox stole a game with the help of the Umpire. The ump, pumped the batter out. He made the fist close out symbol. Not to mention the fact the ball was caught. LOL. Man if I was a die hard Angels fan, I'd be thinking of suicide right now.

haha, I was explaining what happend to somebody just now and they were like "imagine if that happened to NY, you would be going insane" lol yea

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:13 PM

haha, I remember that K-ROD thing. classic

Jesus Shuttlesworth

10-12-2005, 11:13 PM

LOL that was the worst call I have ever seen. The catcher clearly caught the ball and the UMP called the batter out twice. I would be flipping out right now if I was an Angels.

10-12-2005, 11:17 PM

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It was a shitty call but I don't care. I swear the Angels are the stupidest team in baseball. They do this shit all the time. Remember when KryRod dropped the throw back from Molina? LOL.

Good job putting your 3rd string catcher in Mike. :y: Sciosciaball!

WTF are you talking about? 3rd string had nothing to do with it. He caught it and the UMP called the guy out twice. It was over turned only when A.J got on the base. There was nothing to be done. They got robbed plain and simple.

The Outlaw

10-12-2005, 11:17 PM

Terrible.

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:19 PM

WTF are you talking about? 3rd string had nothing to do with it. He caught it and the UMP called the guy out twice. It was over turned only when A.J got on the base. There was nothing to be done. They got robbed plain and simple.

well a catcher that plays everyday would know NOT to throw/roll a ball anywhere until he is SURE what the call is.

10-12-2005, 11:22 PM

well a catcher that plays everyday would know NOT to throw/roll a ball anywhere until he is SURE what the call is.

The Ump called him out twice. :roll:

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 11:22 PM

You know let's not forget Washburn throwing away the ball on Podsednick's first AB tonight too. If he doesn't make that throwing error, that play doesn't happen. Gotta capitalize on your chances.

The Miz

10-12-2005, 11:23 PM

WTF are you talking about? 3rd string had nothing to do with it. He caught it and the UMP called the guy out twice. It was over turned only when A.J got on the base. There was nothing to be done. They got robbed plain and simple.

A catcher shouldn't rely on the ump's call. The play was close, Pierzynski was standing right next to him, why not tag him?

If Molina (either one) is in there this whole thing wouldn't have happened.

The Miz

10-12-2005, 11:24 PM

The Ump called him out twice. :roll:

Neither time verbally

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 11:25 PM

well a catcher that plays everyday would know NOT to throw/roll a ball anywhere until he is SURE what the call is.

Hard to say. That was a fuck up of a play.

10-12-2005, 11:25 PM

A catcher shouldn't rely on the ump's call. The play was close, Pierzynski was standing right next to him, why not tag him?

If Molina (either one) is in there this whole thing wouldn't have happened.

he should have tagged him no doubt, but if he heard the UMP call him out twice. I could see why he just walked away.

The Miz

10-12-2005, 11:26 PM

He heard nothing

10-12-2005, 11:28 PM

Neither time verbally

We dont know for sure... yet.

Bad call anyhow. I dont get why he would get overuled. He made the right call . Did the First base UMP overule him?

YOUR Hero

10-12-2005, 11:29 PM

Like I said, I'm glad this happened. This series has been stale up until now. Both games have been decided by 1 run, yet the games haven't been inspiring.

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:29 PM

can you protest games in the majors? not really sure

10-12-2005, 11:30 PM

Pierzynski running to first was brilliant.

The Miz

10-12-2005, 11:31 PM

can you protest games in the majors? not really sure

Yeha but it's pointless. The Angels just said they are playing under protest right now. No game has ever been overturned and no game ever will

10-12-2005, 11:36 PM

The head of the Umps or whatever basically spoke for Doug Eddings and said that he ruled the ball was trapped.

Fuck they dont even know.lol

Loose Cannon

10-12-2005, 11:41 PM

man, every year there's something controversial

10-12-2005, 11:42 PM

Yah wtf was Washburn thinking.

10-12-2005, 11:48 PM

But heres my question. If the Umpire makes the geture saying he is out. Does he also have to yell that he is out to make it official? I mean he punched out. At what point is the batter officially out and how many gestures do you have to make to officially call him out? This stuff really needs to be clarified.

Josh Paul should have tagged him.

BCWWF

10-13-2005, 12:03 AM

I don't think the Astros have the offense to win the series.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 12:34 AM

just got back from the game. wow.

all i can say is... what the fuck was paul thinking? he should of tagged AJ.

thank fucking god he didn't. leave it to the catcher to make that run to first.

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 12:54 AM

just got back from the game. wow.

all i can say is... what the fuck was paul thinking? he should of tagged AJ.

thank fucking god he didn't. leave it to the catcher to make that run to first.

When a catcher catches the ball on a third strike, he does not need to tag the guy.

Be thankful you got the game handed to you.

10-13-2005, 01:15 AM

When a catcher catches the ball on a third strike, he does not need to tag the guy.

Be thankful you got the game handed to you.

He needs to tag the guy if there was suspicion that the ball hit the dirt, but obviously it didnt and the catcher saw the 3rd strike call and saw the UMP call him out. Its really messed up. Apparently the Umpires strike call is the same as his out call. Theres no distinction of the 2 so how the fuck does the catcher know? That umpires lack of detail cost the Angels the game and could ultimatley cost them the series.

The Icon of Elisim

10-13-2005, 02:14 AM

Didn't see the game, why was Paul in there?

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 02:16 AM

Didn't see the game, why was Paul in there?

Josh Paul replaced Jose Melina and Benji was already in the game as DH.

10-13-2005, 02:16 AM

I think one of the Molina's were pinch hitting. I forget what happend to the other Molina.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 02:26 AM

When a catcher catches the ball on a third strike, he does not need to tag the guy.

Be thankful you got the game handed to you.

The catcher needs to tag the batter when it comes to a dropped 3rd strike (or a 3rd strike in the dirt as was this case). Both AJ & Jose Melina were doing that all game long. Paul didn't hear the ump and that was it.

Whether it was in the dirt or not, the ump made the right call. Paul shouldn't of been so quick to toss the ball away when it was that close. Did any of you notice that he wasn't out there arguing the call? Players (especially catchers) try to sell plays all the time. He sold the 3rd strike and it didn't work.

No matter how many times you guys post or comment "the umps blew the game for the Angels", it won't change the fact that the series is now tied at 1.

If the Angels' offense would of hit Buehrle during the game, that call would of never mattered. Oh well.

And if anyone points to that play as the reason the Angels lost the series (if they in fact do), I'll throw this out ahead of time:

GET THE FUCK OVER IT. :foc:

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 02:28 AM

I think one of the Molina's were pinch hitting. I forget what happend to the other Molina.

Jose was catching & Benji was the DH. Jose was then pinch run for late in the game because they weren't going to take his brother out and lose the DH spot.

Corkscrewed

10-13-2005, 05:18 AM

You're only saying that cuz your team got the win. If it was the opposite, you'd be completely pissed off.

The Gooch

10-13-2005, 07:48 AM

Seriously are there any umps/refs worse than in MLB?

Other than in the CFL I can't think of any, but those guys need second and third jobs to make ends meet.

This isn't like a catcher framing a ball. He rolled it out to the mound because he knew he caught it. Why would he want to fake that when he could easily of tagged him out or threw to first.

In what inning will you see the Angels make fun of this call next game? I'm assuming the first strike out the catcher will touch the player even if it is obvious he caught the ball. Childish, but I can definitely see it happening.

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 11:03 AM

The catcher needs to tag the batter when it comes to a dropped 3rd strike (or a 3rd strike in the dirt as was this case). Both AJ & Jose Melina were doing that all game long. Paul didn't hear the ump and that was it.

Whether it was in the dirt or not, the ump made the right call. Paul shouldn't of been so quick to toss the ball away when it was that close. Did any of you notice that he wasn't out there arguing the call? Players (especially catchers) try to sell plays all the time. He sold the 3rd strike and it didn't work.

LOL you are so wrong and so blinded by your love for your team. Have you ever played baseball? Catchers do that all the time on a third strike/third out which they catch. He made the right call? Are you fucking kidding me? He sold the 3rd strike? He didn't have to sell it. Get the fuck out of here.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 12:39 PM

LOL you are so wrong and so blinded by your love for your team. Have you ever played baseball? Catchers do that all the time on a third strike/third out which they catch. He made the right call? Are you fucking kidding me? He sold the 3rd strike? He didn't have to sell it. Get the fuck out of here.

I was a pitcher for about 12 years so don't tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about.

VonErich Lives

10-13-2005, 01:01 PM

I saw the replay online, so it was a small screen, but it does look like at the bottom/end the pitch changes direction and goes into the glove in an upward motion then downward, which is what the Ump says he saw.

Now, pitches do dip and rise etc... but that sharp an angle, right off the ground? I doubt it.

I might have seen it bad, will try and catch it on ESPN later.

He says he never called him out, that his signal was a strike signal, same one he always use and used all game.

Dunno... plenty of catchers when it's close tag the batter just in case, Teck does it all the time.

Loose Cannon

10-13-2005, 04:12 PM

yea, he definately DID NOT sell the thrid strike. I saw the replay at least 20 times already and that ball did not hit the dirt.

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 05:55 PM

LOL the umpires for that game have blew this call so bad. They were so indecisive it's not even funny. I can see a call being blown but the name of the game for the UMP is to be 1. decisive and 2. consistent, but he signalled a strike and punched him out and basically the play is dead. AJ was even walking to the dugout but then started running. So he basically changed the call just because he wasn't sure if the catcher caught it or not, which he obviously did. What the hell were the other umpires doing?

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 05:57 PM

I was a pitcher for about 12 years so don't tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Well obviously you were a 10th string reliever because if you actually believe what you wrote, then I feel sorry for whoever you played for. If this would have happened to my team I would obviously not be pissed that it happened but I would at least admit that it was a fuck up.

VonErich Lives

10-13-2005, 07:01 PM

YOUR Hero

10-13-2005, 09:50 PM

OMG, the Astros got an early run against the Cardinals.

Loose Cannon

10-13-2005, 10:05 PM

ok game tonight.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 10:42 PM

Well obviously you were a 10th string reliever because if you actually believe what you wrote, then I feel sorry for whoever you played for. If this would have happened to my team I would obviously not be pissed that it happened but I would at least admit that it was a fuck up.

I was a drafted RP, so there goes your theory on thinking you know me.

And why shouldn't I believe what I wrote? It was a heads up play by AJ to run when he didn't hear himself called out. Yes he saw the sign for the 3rd strike but he was never called out.

The game is fucking over people. Like it or not the series is still tied at 1.

God, if this happened to the Yankees.. Fox might lobby for the game to be replayed.

And for all of you up in arms that the Angels got screwed, go find the audio clip from the Angels' own braodcast team. They didn't bitch and moan, they just called it a "heads up play by AJ".

The Miz

10-13-2005, 10:44 PM

I was a drafted RP, so there goes your theory on thinking you know me.

What year/round

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 10:46 PM

Dunno... plenty of catchers when it's close tag the batter just in case, Teck does it all the time.

AJ & Molina did it all game for plays nowhere near as close. Paul fucked up. Even Ryan Sandburg said so...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Au0XfeVu6eGAHggFEDIgq7A5nYcB?slug=rs-angels101305&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Hey Outlaw... Paul didn't try to sell the 3rd strike? Read Sandburg's 3rd paragraph. Did you ever play baseball?

Loose Cannon

10-13-2005, 10:48 PM

lol how does the Yankees come into this?

The Miz

10-13-2005, 10:48 PM

lol Ryne Sandberg said it guys, case closed

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 10:51 PM

What year/round

I was drafted by the Blue Jays right out of high school and then was dropped from the draft list after ending my "career" due to major surgery after an injury suffered in a summer session.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 10:53 PM

lol how does the Yankees come into this?

I just threw them in because there would be even more of an uproar if the call went against them.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 10:54 PM

lol Ryne Sandberg said it guys, case closed

I don't see any Hall of Famers around here making a valid point to end this pointless arguement.

The Miz

10-13-2005, 10:57 PM

Being in the hall of fame does not make you not a moron. Case and point,

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/morgan0708.jpg

I specifically remember Sandberg stating "With Schilling in the bullpen, every Red Sox game will become an 8-inning affair"

BCWWF

10-13-2005, 11:02 PM

Anything Pierzynski does is the man

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 11:03 PM

The reason I brought up the Sandburg article was because Outlaw went off about me saying that Paul was trying to sell the play by just tossing the ball to the mound.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 11:05 PM

Anything Pierzynski does is the man

AJ is a hell of a catcher and if that were any other player up there at the time it would of been the 3rd out. It took the catcher to recognize the call.

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 11:14 PM

I was a drafted RP, so there goes your theory on thinking you know me.

And why shouldn't I believe what I wrote? It was a heads up play by AJ to run when he didn't hear himself called out. Yes he saw the sign for the 3rd strike but he was never called out.

The game is fucking over people. Like it or not the series is still tied at 1.

God, if this happened to the Yankees.. Fox might lobby for the game to be replayed.

And for all of you up in arms that the Angels got screwed, go find the audio clip from the Angels' own braodcast team. They didn't bitch and moan, they just called it a "heads up play by AJ".

LOL it was a joke about the 10th string RP part, lol @ me being right about the RP bit though.

Ryan Sandberg said it? Oh, case closed guys. The GOD of baseball has spoken I guess?

I agree it was a heads up play, but that doesn't make the call any better. You always see guys in the NBA try to draw a charge and flop and sometimes they get the call. That's a heads up play but it doesn't make it a good call.

Hey Outlaw... Paul didn't try to sell the 3rd strike? Read Sandburg's 3rd paragraph. Did you ever play baseball?

As a catcher, when you catch the third strike, most catchers I have seen roll the ball to the mound. This is not selling the third strike.

I played baseball for 16 years. I played 1st, 2nd, 3rd, OF, and...SURPRISE, catcher.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 11:26 PM

LOL it was a joke about the 10th string RP part, lol @ me being right about the RP bit though.

yeah, good call.

As a catcher, when you catch the third strike, most catchers I have seen roll the ball to the mound. This is not selling the third strike.

As a pitcher, I understand that catchers will roll the ball to the mound after a 3rd strike. With a play as close as this one was, without tagging the batter out, he was trying to sell it. There is no doubt about that.

It's the same idea of framing a close pitch to get a better call or a batter starting his walk to first on a close strike call with three balls in the count.

Shit... Jeter has made a career of selling close tags at second.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 11:28 PM

at you cant tell me as a catcher, outlaw, that you have never tried to frame a pitch.

my sophmore year in high school, we had a kid catching that was so good at it... at times our staff was just that much better because of it.

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 11:35 PM

Listen, I am not saying it wasn't a damn smart play by AJ. I am just saying it was a pretty shittacular call. I framed pitches all the time, that's a catcher's instinct really. I just don't really see him rolling the ball as selling it. A catcher knows when he catches the ball, and he knew he caught it. I liked the way Zeille put it when he talked to Jim Rome. Like Hero said, maybe this will add some drama to this series and it will become a good one because I wasn't feeling it after game 1.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 11:39 PM

see.. i'm biased either way.

I dig the series so far just because I'm a Sox fan and then I dig the great pitching because that was my position.

and I still think the blame lies with Josh Paul for not tagging AJ out just to be sure. oh well... on to game three.

Joey Slugs

10-13-2005, 11:41 PM

How about Oswalt tonight and where the hell did Chris Burke come from?

The Outlaw

10-13-2005, 11:46 PM

Fuck Chris Burke. :'(

The Icon of Elisim

10-14-2005, 12:13 AM

Just for the record I was the utility infielder for the 1997 kansas city royals and based on my experience it was a strike out but a bad play by Paul nonetheless

RoXer

10-14-2005, 12:39 AM

The ball was caught. It did not hit the dirt.

I did win MVP in my Little League's reigon, so I think I would know something about this and all.

The Outlaw

10-14-2005, 01:17 AM

I used to play soccer so I would know.

Joey Slugs

10-14-2005, 01:39 AM

the white sox still won the game and my tennis playing gf can attest to that.

:shifty:

10-14-2005, 02:50 AM

Roy Oswalt pitched a gem tonight. The Stro's needed it too. Chris burke is having one of the post seasons that even the best players dream of. Clemens goes in game 3. Astros could take command of this series.

Am i the only person that thinks the Cards bats look old?

10-14-2005, 02:51 AM

Also i agree with YOUR Hero. I'm glad Doug Edding royaley fucked that strike call. Now i'm actually very intrested in Game 3 of the ALCS.

PsychoSport

10-14-2005, 02:57 AM

As a pitcher, I understand that catchers will roll the ball to the mound after a 3rd strike. With a play as close as this one was, without tagging the batter out, he was trying to sell it. There is no doubt about that.

This is absolutely ridiculous beyond all sense of reason.

Are you honestly telling me that a major league catcher would rather "fake" the catch, and roll the ball to the mound,risking that the ump call his bluff, rather than simply reaching over two feet and tagging the batter? There is no way. Josh Paul would have to be the dumbest person in the world.

If a catcher traps the ball, he's going to tag the runner 100 times out of 100, not try to "bluff" it and hope nobody calls him on it. I couldn't care less what your credentials are, that simply doesn't make sense.

Joey Slugs

10-14-2005, 08:46 PM

ALCS GAME 3

Joey Slugs

10-14-2005, 08:47 PM

3-0 Sox after the 1st. Did we forget what happened last game? Good.

Joey Slugs

10-14-2005, 11:19 PM

back 2 back jems by Buehrle & Garland. Now they have to deal with Garcia and then Contreras.

boo-yah bitches.

YOUR Hero

10-15-2005, 01:31 PM

Contreras pitched a gem as well. Don't forget that. Maybe he didn't win, but he pitched 8.1/3 innings.

PS, Love the avatar, Miz.

Loose Cannon

10-15-2005, 07:30 PM

hott game going in Houston

Top 9, 2 outs.

Cards: man on second

4-3 Stros

The Miz

10-15-2005, 09:26 PM

The Miz

10-15-2005, 09:29 PM

Also Konerko's stock is rising faster than anyone right now. He looked like a great fit for Oakland before the playoffs but he's probably out their price range thanks to his performance.

The Miz

10-15-2005, 09:45 PM

God this umpiring crew of CHW/LAA is one of the worst ever. Not 1999 ALCS bad but bad.

Loose Cannon

10-15-2005, 09:51 PM

lol was that the NY/Baltimore series?

The Miz

10-15-2005, 10:02 PM

YOUR Hero

10-15-2005, 10:21 PM

You referring to the base Podsednick just stole, but was out? I can't believe the Angels didn't protest that. I noted that he was out from Prince George.

The Miz

10-15-2005, 10:32 PM

I was referring to Pods getting picked off but called safe and then scoring.

Evil Vito

10-15-2005, 10:52 PM

Yeah this ump crew is fucking terrible, a crapload of bad calls. Also, did anyone notice that throw to third, the ump got in the way of Figgins so Figgins practically had to push the ump out of the way?

Definately hope these umps get sent down to AAA next year.

YOUR Hero

10-15-2005, 11:12 PM

Oh and by the way, one of the reasons they aren't hyping too much... or as much on Vlad is because they are busy crapping on Figgins' lack of production.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 12:37 AM

ONE WIN AWAY.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 12:41 AM

Also Konerko's stock is rising faster than anyone right now. He looked like a great fit for Oakland before the playoffs but he's probably out their price range thanks to his performance.

Paulie stays in Chicago.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 12:42 AM

Yeah this ump crew is fucking terrible, a crapload of bad calls. Also, did anyone notice that throw to third, the ump got in the way of Figgins so Figgins practically had to push the ump out of the way?

Definately hope these umps get sent down to AAA next year.

the ump didn't figure in the play.

not like he was in the way of a close play. the ball was overthrown.

10-16-2005, 03:02 AM

I wanna see the Astros run Petite out for Game 4. Put this thing away now. I dont care how beat up the Cardinals are. They are the best team in baseball and probably the most dangerous. Finish them off quickly i say.

10-16-2005, 03:05 AM

Oh and as for the ALCS. I dont care if the ball was caught, dropped, the call blown, or called right. It doesnt matter. The Angels are playing like complete and utter dogshit. Vlad might wanna actually try to earn his paycheck pretty soon here. Like preferably the next game before he goes and spends it all in the offseason.

You're one of the best players in the league and also one of the highest paid in the league, in the ALCS and you're hitting .062 ? Its a stick up!

VonErich Lives

10-16-2005, 05:43 AM

I love how ARod is getting destroyed by the media and no one has said a word about Vlad who has produced less than ARod along with costing the team runs with horrid fundemental defense. I hate ARod as much as the next guy but its just funny now how he's such an easy target and Vlad never recieves any negative criticism.

A-rod's always the prime target because he makes the most, until someone has a higher paycheck, they will expect A-rod to win the triple crown by hitting .400, breaking the single season HR & RBI records, breaking the record for steals, perfect in the feild and probably pitch a shut out or two... and win a world series and be League MVP, ALCS MVP and WS MVP. Till then, no one will be satisfied.

As for Vlad, correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he been playing on bad knees for 2 years? If that is the case, why hasn't he been moved from OF to DH?

VonErich Lives

10-16-2005, 05:49 AM

NY/BOS. Knoblauch's mystery tag was the famous play but there were about 10-15 shitty calls a game, most of them screwing Nomar. I don't remember if NY/BAL was all that shitty or if there was just one bad call on the HR.

At Fenway, and George was in the stands... led to one of Jimmy Willams famous quotes.

The fans finally got fed up and thew stuff on the field (not something I support).

Jimmy I think finnally got tossed arguing plans.

Steinbrenner after the game blamed the fans reaction on Jimmy Williams, that if he didn't argue the calls, the fans wouldn't have done anything.

Jimmy Williams response "When georgie porge speaks, I don't listen".

I must admit, I miss Williams, he was a decent (not great) manager and was very old school, hated the modern press (TV-Radio). Everything was "Managers decision" he never hung a player out.

His 2 responses to reporters I lmao at the most.

"Well, if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump it's booty"

Then a give take with a reporter.

JW - "Oh yeah, what team did you coach?"
Reporter - "Well, umm... I coached braintree little league"
JW - "Well, I was a brain treee surgen".

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 10:40 AM

YOUR Hero

10-16-2005, 11:16 AM

hard to argue that.

VonErich Lives

10-16-2005, 12:45 PM

Chalk it up to dominating Sox pitching.

It's the age old argument.

Good pitcher v. Good hitter.

Strikout.

Did the hitter choke, or did the pitcher beat him?

YOUR Hero

10-16-2005, 12:46 PM

Yeah the hitter's choked for 4 games, the pitching had nothing to do with it. Those complete games are irrelevant.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 02:08 PM

yeah i mean, this (3 straight CG) is only something that has never happened in 30 plus years.

outside of the starters, we have only had one other pitcher appear in this series. i'm thinking that we will see the bullpen tonight, but you never know... jose has a CG under his belt this year.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 02:15 PM

A-rod's always the prime target because he makes the most, until someone has a higher paycheck, they will expect A-rod to win the triple crown by hitting .400, breaking the single season HR & RBI records, breaking the record for steals, perfect in the feild and probably pitch a shut out or two... and win a world series and be League MVP, ALCS MVP and WS MVP. Till then, no one will be satisfied.

As for Vlad, correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't he been playing on bad knees for 2 years? If that is the case, why hasn't he been moved from OF to DH?

I think it's more of the fact that ARod opens his mouth a whole lot more than Vlad. The whole "I played like a dog" thing really hurt him more because of the money he makes and the fact, just like you said, that people hold him up so high.

Not only is it Vlad's knees but he also has a bad shoulder (which is scary because of the gun he has) and a bad wrist. If you read up on his various injuries, most writers will suspect that he only has about 2 or 3 productive years left in his career. Which really is a shame because I don't think he is, right now, as good as he really could be.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 02:16 PM

It's the age old argument.

Good pitcher v. Good hitter.

Strikout.

Did the hitter choke, or did the pitcher beat him?

In this case, just as it was against Boston, it's the pitchers beating them.

The Miz

10-16-2005, 02:31 PM

Bases loaded no outs no runs is a choke. Duque was excellent, yes, but there's no excuse for not being able to hit a weak grounder and get the run home.

YOUR Hero

10-16-2005, 02:55 PM

They won that game, Miz.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 02:56 PM

Bases loaded no outs no runs is a choke. Duque was excellent, yes, but there's no excuse for not being able to hit a weak grounder and get the run home.

El Duque gave them nothing to hit, but even a grounder would have been a double play... the way the Boston offense was hitting

The Miz

10-16-2005, 02:58 PM

A double play scores the run

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 03:00 PM

A double play scores the run

Not when the first half of that play is the force at home.

6-2-3 DP

The Miz

10-16-2005, 03:05 PM

All I'm saying is that with the bases loaded, no one out, at home, in an inning which Manny has already homered, your season on the line, Varitek/Graffanino/Damon due up, a run has to be scored. Anything except a pop up and a strikeout will do it. They popped up twice and stuck out once. No excuses.

Joey Slugs

10-16-2005, 03:14 PM

You are right, there are no excuses but it seems like you aren't giving the Sox pitching the credit for shutting down that offense.

YOUR Hero

10-16-2005, 04:49 PM

I thought you meant the 1st game, the Angels game, my bad.

RoXer

10-16-2005, 08:01 PM

Kinda looked like a tie to me.

The Miz

10-16-2005, 08:01 PM

Holy shit, amazing stand by Astros defense. Bad play by Pujols though, why go with only one out?

RoXer

10-16-2005, 08:01 PM

The DP to end the game I mean.

Loose Cannon

10-16-2005, 08:03 PM

Holy shit, amazing stand by Astros defense. Bad play by Pujols though, why go with only one out?

yea, that's what I was saying.

god, I am loving these Astros.

The Miz

10-16-2005, 08:07 PM

Can't help but wonder what would've happened to these teams with a different manager.

2005 Cardinals?
2004 Cardinals
2002 Cardinals
1992 A's
1990 A's
1988 A's
1983 White Sox

I'm not blaming their struggles on La Russa, I'm just saying he's had more talent than any one other than Joe Torre and doesn't have much to show for it.

Jesus Shuttlesworth

10-16-2005, 08:34 PM

NY/BOS. Knoblauch's mystery tag was the famous play but there were about 10-15 shitty calls a game, most of them screwing Nomar. I don't remember if NY/BAL was all that shitty or if there was just one bad call on the HR.
The mystery tag was probably the worst call I've ever seen in my life. I remember the Boston Hearld had a huge picture of it on the backpage. You could see the ump making an out call while the ball was a good foot away from Nomar's back.

YOUR Hero

10-16-2005, 09:21 PM

Let's see if Vlad can come through. 2 outs with two on.

Loose Cannon

10-16-2005, 10:58 PM

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Escobar. You idiot

Loose Cannon

10-16-2005, 10:59 PM

lol, you got to tag with the ball there buddy

Dragon

10-16-2005, 11:02 PM

Almost another ridiculous call made, but it was reversed. Escobar picks up the ball and tags Pierzynski with his glove which does not have the ball in it.

Dragon

10-16-2005, 11:07 PM

Nice one K-Rod.

YOUR Hero

10-16-2005, 11:11 PM

Another error/play that looks to decide the game.

DaveWadding

10-16-2005, 11:45 PM

Does any one know where I can get an A bomb that would vaporize the South Side?

Loose Cannon

10-16-2005, 11:49 PM

my god. 4 CG's in a row by 4 different pitchers

I wonder how far you have to go back to find that in any Postseason play.

Loose Cannon

10-16-2005, 11:51 PM

you'll find it all the time from like the 00's-50's

Jesus Shuttlesworth

10-17-2005, 12:14 AM

White Sox got the World Series championship on lock

BCWWF

10-17-2005, 12:31 AM

I think it's more of the fact that ARod opens his mouth a whole lot more than Vlad. The whole "I played like a dog" thing really hurt him more because of the money he makes and the fact, just like you said, that people hold him up so high.

You realize that Vlad doesn't speak a lick of English...

Personally, I would take A-Rod over Vlad if I had the choice, he is simply a better overall player.

Finally, Frankie is just awful.

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 01:28 AM

Does any one know where I can get an A bomb that would vaporize the South Side?

On behalf of my South Side friends and neighbors:

FUCK YOU!

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 01:28 AM

2005 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS

ONE OF THE GREATEST NIGHTS OF MY LIFE!

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 02:27 AM

AMEN!

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051017/capt.ans17010170531.alcs_white_sox_angels_ans170.jpg

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 02:41 AM

(Thunder) (x10)
I was caught
In the middle of a railroad track (Thunder)
I looked round
And I knew there was no turning back (Thunder)
My mind raced
And I thought what could I do (Thunder)
And I knew
There was no help, no help from you (Thunder)

Sound of the drums
Beatin' in my heart
The thunder of guns
Tore me apart
You've been - thunderstruck

Rode down the highway
Broke the limit, we hit the town
Went down to Texas, yeah Texas
And we had some fun
We met some girls
Some dancers who gave a good time
Broke all the rules, played all the fools
Yeah, yeah, they, they, they blew our minds
<CENTER><CENTER> </CENTER></CENTER>I was shakin' at the knees
Could I come again please?
Yeah the ladies were too kind
You've been - thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Yeah yeah yeah, thunderstruck

Yeah
Oh, thunderstruck, yeah

Now we're shaking at the knees
Could I come again please?

Thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Yeah yeah yeah, thunderstruck
Thunderstruck, yeah, yeah, yeah

Said yeah, it's alright
We're doing fine
Yeah, it's alright
We're doing fine
(So fine)

Thunderstruck, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Tunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Whoa baby, baby, thunderstruck
You've been thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Thunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck
You've been thunderstruck

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 02:45 AM

my god. 4 CG's in a row by 4 different pitchers

I wonder how far you have to go back to find that in any Postseason play.

From ESPN.com
Manager Ozzie Guillen's team became the first club to pitch four complete games in a single postseason series since the 1956 New York Yankees got them from Whitey Ford, Tom Sturdivant, Don Larsen (his perfect game) and Bob Turley against the Brooklyn Dodgers.

10-17-2005, 03:18 AM

I picked the Astros from the beginning. I'm sticking with it.

BCWWF

10-17-2005, 06:54 AM

I love the Cardinals losing :p

The Gooch

10-17-2005, 12:18 PM

I was cheering for the Angels, but you have to give the Sox credit, they played a great series. Don't know if the Cards will have it in them to take 3 games in a row against Houston. I hope they can as I want Walker to get a ring before he retires.

If it comes down to it, Houston vs. Chicago will definitely be a great match up if you are a fan of pitching. May not be as marketable as other combinations, but it will be nice to see some new teams playing for it all regardless.

The Outlaw

10-17-2005, 01:05 PM

(Thunder) (x10)
I was caught
In the middle of a railroad track (Thunder)
I looked round
And I knew there was no turning back (Thunder)
My mind raced
And I thought what could I do (Thunder)
And I knew
There was no help, no help from you (Thunder)

Sound of the drums
Beatin' in my heart
The thunder of guns
Tore me apart
You've been - thunderstruck

Rode down the highway
Broke the limit, we hit the town
Went down to Texas, yeah Texas
And we had some fun
We met some girls
Some dancers who gave a good time
Broke all the rules, played all the fools
Yeah, yeah, they, they, they blew our minds

<CENTER><CENTER></CENTER></CENTER>I was shakin' at the knees
Could I come again please?
Yeah the ladies were too kind
You've been - thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Yeah yeah yeah, thunderstruck

Yeah
Oh, thunderstruck, yeah

Now we're shaking at the knees
Could I come again please?

Thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Yeah yeah yeah, thunderstruck
Thunderstruck, yeah, yeah, yeah

Said yeah, it's alright
We're doing fine
Yeah, it's alright
We're doing fine
(So fine)

Thunderstruck, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Tunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Whoa baby, baby, thunderstruck
You've been thunderstruck, thunderstruck
Thunderstruck, thunderstruck, thunderstruck
You've been thunderstruck

lol wtf

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 01:48 PM

lol wtf

AC/DC's Thunderstruck has become the offical White Sox theme over the last few years. They play it @ The Cell during the video intro and when the sox take the field before the first inning.

The Outlaw

10-17-2005, 05:05 PM

Oh, guess that's why I didn't know.

Loose Cannon

10-17-2005, 05:13 PM

LOL, you should of just not told us. Would of been more funnier.

The Outlaw

10-17-2005, 05:15 PM

yeah haha

Dragon

10-17-2005, 05:19 PM

Who do the Cards have to get through to get into the series? Pettite, Clemens and Oswalt I think, not sure though. Either way, thats quite the challenge.

Astros and Sox in the series will be pretty great. Pettite, Clemens, Contreras, and El Duque all in the series for Yankees fans to see. Other pitchers on the staffs aren't too shabby either, haha.

Joey Slugs

10-17-2005, 06:01 PM

LOL, you should of just not told us. Would of been more funnier.

should of just been all random about it and shit. :lol:

YOUR Hero

10-17-2005, 08:55 PM

The Gooch's words were stolen from my mind. Disregard what he said and attribute it to me.

Evil Vito

10-17-2005, 09:33 PM

Can't see the Cards coming back here, looking like it'll be Houston/White Sox

Gonna be an awesome series

YOUR Hero

10-17-2005, 11:27 PM

Berkman has been the man leading up to and including the playoffs for the Astros.

YOUR Hero

10-17-2005, 11:39 PM

Holy Fuck.
Pujols killed that ball.

Loose Cannon

10-17-2005, 11:40 PM

haha, I felt that shit.

one my freinds is prob flipping out right now.

Dragon

10-17-2005, 11:41 PM

Pujols keeps the Cards season alive.

Evil Vito

10-17-2005, 11:44 PM

Haha, you could totally see Lidge cracking

Joey Slugs

10-18-2005, 12:05 AM

man, i feel bad for biggio... with one out to go they showed him crying in the dugout.

let them go all seven.

el fregadero

10-18-2005, 12:55 AM

I despise the Cardinals yet can't help wanting them to win against Houston. And Pujols obliverated that pitch.

10-18-2005, 03:26 AM

It seemed like he was hitting that thing with a tennis racket. He absolutely killed that ball. If they come back and win this series. That shot will be legendary.

Joey Slugs

10-18-2005, 12:59 PM

*EDIT*
chicago world series tickets sold out in less than 3 minutes.

The Outlaw

10-18-2005, 02:28 PM

Why not walk Pujols and try your luck with Sanders?

Dragon

10-18-2005, 08:10 PM

Then a single could tie it and a double could have given them the lead. I think they had to go after Pujols this time.

The Miz

10-18-2005, 08:59 PM

Walking Edmonds was crucial. He's the guy they needed to go after.

BCWWF

10-18-2005, 09:30 PM

Everybody here was going crazy, ther was probably constant cheering for a good half hour after the hit.

YOUR Hero

10-19-2005, 10:21 AM

Walking Edmonds was crucial. He's the guy they needed to go after.

yup.

After Eckstein got on, they needed to get Edmonds out. Lets not forget that Sanders has been the man this playoff season so far for the Cards.

The Outlaw

10-19-2005, 03:35 PM

I dunno, I would much rather Lidge face Sanders than Pujols. I know it's in hindsight but still.

The Miz

10-19-2005, 09:27 PM

3-0 Astros. Not really surprised, Mulder has never shown up for a big game ever.

Joey Slugs

10-20-2005, 12:34 AM

ALDS
Yankees/Angels - Yankees in 5
White Sox/Red Sox - White Sox in 4

ALCS
White Sox/Yankees - White Sox in 6

NLDS
Cardinals/Padres - Cardinals in 4
Braves/Astros - Astros in 5

NLCS
Cardinals/Astros - Astros in 7

WORLD SERIES
White Sox/Astros - White Sox in 6

god i was close. off by one team. still got the WS right.

GO SOX!

Dragon

10-20-2005, 12:50 AM

Should be a good series. I'd like to see the Astros win it all but I really wouldn't be all that mad if the Sox won either.

DaveWadding

10-20-2005, 01:19 AM

HERE WE GO ASTROS!

10-20-2005, 02:49 AM

HERE WE GO ASTROS!

VonErich Lives

10-20-2005, 04:48 AM

*puts on Clemens Astros jersey*

Yeah, I'd like to see the white sox break their "streak", but I'd also like to see Biggio & Bagwell get a ring.

The Gooch

10-20-2005, 07:52 AM

From a story perspective you can't go wrong either way with these two teams.

If Clemens wins I'm thinking he will retire.

And then go play for the Red Sox.

;)

The Outlaw

10-20-2005, 02:19 PM

Gotta root for Biggio + Bagwell.

Big Hurt though. :'(

Joey Slugs

10-20-2005, 02:55 PM

as long as big frank can finally get his ring. i just don't think that will be enough to moce him over the top and into the HOF one day.

if only he didn't get hurt the last few seasons. he'd have 500 + HRs easy.

Loose Cannon

10-20-2005, 03:18 PM

Rooting for the Stros. Pettite :love:

Nervous Ferret

10-20-2005, 03:24 PM

Yeah I think I'm siding with the Stros on this one

Clemens, Pettite, Bagwell, Biggio, lots of likeable guys

Adder

10-21-2005, 06:43 PM

Neither team is a favourite of mine, I wouldn't care who won, as long as it's good baseball.

Loose Cannon

10-22-2005, 07:41 PM

WORLD SERIES '05

The Miz

10-22-2005, 07:55 PM

Yeah, a World Series, that features one country :lol:

10-22-2005, 07:59 PM

Multi Platium recording artist.... Josh...Grobin?

Loose Cannon

10-22-2005, 08:04 PM

baseball is only poular in America, Canada, Mexico, South America, Central America, Japan, Italy, Australia and South Africa :rofl:

Jesus Shuttlesworth

10-22-2005, 08:37 PM

If Bagwell was actaully playing I'd go for the 'Stros but i'd rather see the White Sox win it since they haven't won it in a while. Plus when I went to Chicago the people where crazy nice too so throw that in thurrrrr

Loose Cannon

10-22-2005, 08:38 PM

Bagwell is playing

The Miz

10-22-2005, 09:23 PM

So much for the offense sucking

YOUR Hero

10-22-2005, 11:00 PM

good game. close, as I was hoping.

The Miz

10-23-2005, 01:12 AM

Joey Slugs

10-23-2005, 03:35 AM

one down. three to go.

Joey Slugs

10-23-2005, 03:36 AM

BCWWF

10-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Its going to be weird and even kind of a kick in the face when the White Sox win, but I really just can't see Houston winning for some reason. Granted I said the same thing about the NLCS.

The one good thing about the White Sox winning is that it would shit all over the faces of stupid Cubs fans, although everybody from Chicago is magically Sox fan's now that they are good.

The Miz

10-23-2005, 01:22 PM

The one good thing about the White Sox winning is that it would shit all over the faces of stupid Cubs fans, although everybody from Chicago is magically Sox fan's now that they are good.

This is why I hate Angel fans aka. Dodger fans

VonErich Lives

10-23-2005, 02:04 PM

I love people who say "Clemens is just as good now as he ever was." He had ERAs of 4.35 and 3.91 his last 2 years of the AL, it's not a coincidence his effectiveness drops enormously against the White Sox and against the AL all star team. I'm not saying Clemens sucks, but the NL sure does.

Every AL pitcher is better in the NL. Part of it is the NL has no DH.

as for WS, year, it's 2 countries that have teams, however the best of the best come and play in the MLB. That's where the best play, that's where the money is, so "World Series" is fine.

I did find it funny they said Contrares brother was riding on horseback to a shack to listen to the game on someone's radio in Cuba... gee, think that makes it easier for Castro to find him? They also said in Cuba Castro bans the use of the names of players who defected.

Didn't Castro try out for the Mets in the 1950's? Imagine how things might be different...