MLB 2005-2006 Offseason Thread [Archive] - Page 2

YOUR Hero

11-13-2005, 12:08 PM

He didn't have that bad a year this year :wtf: The wins weren't there, but he did over 200 innings, had close to 200 strike outs. Highish ERA and WHIP, yeah. He gives up way too many hits the last couple years.

I'd take him on my team, like I said, if it wasn't for the high salary he'll be commanding.

I think he's a guy that's not adapting to the fact his original 'stuff' isn't getting him the outs it used to regularly. He needs to adapt and learn new pitches. That's what I think.

His last 3 years...

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=20 height=18>Pitching</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left width="18%" height=18> Last 3 years</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left width="6%">Team</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>GS</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SV</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>CG</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>SHO</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>IP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>H</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>R</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ER</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>HR</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>K</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>ERA</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>WHIP</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>BAA</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> 2003</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>MON</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>34</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>34</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>13</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>12</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>230.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>198</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>93</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>83</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>28</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>57</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>241</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3.24</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.229</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> 2004</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>NYY</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>32</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>32</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>14</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>10</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>198.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>195</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>114</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>108</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>33</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>60</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>150</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.91</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.29</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.255</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> 2005</TD><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16>ARI</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>33</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>33</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>11</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>15</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>3</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>215.2</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>223</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>112</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>106</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>35</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>46</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>192</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.42</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.25</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.266</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD class=yspscores align=left height=16> Career</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>257</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>256</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>89</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>93</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>19</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>7</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1643.0</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1653</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>845</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>782</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>223</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>437</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1418</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>4.28</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>1.27</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16>.260</TD><TD class=yspscores height=16> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Excellance of Execution

11-14-2005, 07:47 PM

A-ROD=MVP

Not to much of a surprise to me. Ortiz had a huge year, but he doesn't hardly play the field. Obviously, that was probably the deciding factor on why A-Rod got it and Ortiz didn't.

Joey Slugs

11-15-2005, 12:12 AM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Monday, November 14</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/7042.jpg
Hideki Matsui (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7042)
Yankees
</td><td> </td><td>Matsui: Yanks or free agency?
Nov 14 - Hideki Matsui and the Yankees will likely settle on a four-year deal worth at least $48 million that could include a fifth-year option, the New York Daily News reports. Matsui's agent, Arn Tellem, spoke with GM Brian Cashman on Sunday and is likely to meet with him on Monday.
Matsui could become a free agent if a deal isn't struck before midnight Tuesday.

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Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>Mets knocking on Wagner's door
Nov 14 - The Mets are willing to do whatever it takes to land Billy Wagner, even if it means adding a fourth year to the deal, the Newark Star-Ledger reports. The Mets are prepared to guarantee the 34-year-old left-handed closer $30 million over three years, an offer that could come as soon as Monday.

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Los Angeles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)
</td><td> </td><td>Theo back in the game?
Nov 14 - There were strong indications Sunday that the Dodgers have offered their vacant GM position to Theo Epstein, possibly with a small stake in ownership, the Los Angeles Daily News reports. If the Dodgers fail to land Epstein, the job likely will go either to San Francisco assistant GM Ned Colletti or Dodgers assistant GM Kim Ng, the newspaper reports.

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Nomar Garciaparra (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5706)
Cubs
</td><td>Dodgers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)?
</td><td>Nomad Nomar
Nov 14 - The Cubs have advised injury-plagued infielder Nomar Garciaparra to shop around, The Chicago Tribune reports. GM Jim Hendry Hendry said Garciaparra "is in a situation where he should go out and find if there is a better fit. With our situation at third, he's not going to play there, [though] he did fine when he got over there."
The Cubs are pursuing free-agent shortstop Rafael Furcal.

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Juan Pierre (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6550)
Marlins
</td><td> </td><td>Forget Pierre in pinstripes
Nov 14 - The Marlins may trade center fielder Juan Pierre this offseason, but it won't be to the Yankees, The New York Post reports. According to the newspaper, the two teams did not have any talks about Pierre at last week's GM meetings.

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Jesus Shuttlesworth

11-15-2005, 04:07 PM

Whats Clemens going to do? Be extremely sucessful in the regular season then do nothing in the post season? or just retire?

Joey Slugs

11-15-2005, 04:20 PM

Saint Albert wins the NL MVP. (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051115&content_id=1268475&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

Joey Slugs

11-15-2005, 04:21 PM

The Miz

11-15-2005, 07:38 PM

Yanks and Matsui close to a 4 year $52 mil deal

BCWWF

11-15-2005, 11:16 PM

Saint Albert? You are from Chicago.

YOUR Hero

11-16-2005, 09:55 AM

MLB, union agree to stricter drug policy (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051115&content_id=1268529&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
Deal bans three-time violators for life, includes amphetamines

Tough policy. If they want to clean up the game, then I imagine this is a great tool to do it. Time will tell.

VonErich Lives

11-16-2005, 12:19 PM

Tough policy. If they want to clean up the game, then I imagine this is a great tool to do it. Time will tell.

I love the "life time ban" but you can reapply after 2yrs.

It's like the old "Is this a last chance or like a Steve Howe last chance?"

Joey Slugs

11-16-2005, 01:43 PM

Saint Albert? You are from Chicago.

I have a buddy of mine that lives in STL. I do believe that Saint Albert is the proper nickname.

Joey Slugs

11-16-2005, 01:44 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Tuesday, November 15</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5307.jpg
Mike Myers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5307)
Red Sox
</td><td> </td><td>Myers gets pitch from Red Sox
Nov 15 - The Red Sox have made an offer to reliever Mike Myers, the Boston Herald reports. The 36-year-old lefty specialist earned $600,000 last season.
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Elmer Dessens (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5640)
Dodgers
</td><td>Rockies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=col)
Royals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=kan)
</td><td>Battle Royal
Nov 15 - Kansas City appears to have outbid Colorado for starter Elmer Dessens, The Denver Post reports. The right-hander is leaning toward accepting the Royals' two-year offer, about $900,000 more than the Rockies' $2.5 million.
"We were told he was heading in another direction," Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd told the newspaper.

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Joey Slugs

11-16-2005, 01:45 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Wednesday, November 16</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5492.jpg
Mike Cameron (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5492)
Mets
</td><td>Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
</td><td>Cameron expected to become a Padre
Nov 16 - The Mets and the Padres are on the verge of a deal that would send Mike Cameron to San Diego, baseball officials told ESPN's Buster Olney on Wednesday. Other parts of the prospective deal are not known at this time, although the Mets are reportedly looking for bullpen help.
The Padres nearly signed Cameron as a free agent after the 2003 season and still have a need for someone to patrol center field at Petco Park. Cameron won Gold Gloves in 2001 and 2003 playing center field for Seattle.

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Reggie Sanders (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4737)
Cardinals
</td><td> </td><td>Sanders visits K.C.
Nov 16 - In their quest for a power-hitting corner outfielder, Kansas City made its pitch Tuesday to Reggie Sanders, The Kansas City Star reports. The Royals will have to compete with the Cardinals, Twins, Marlins and Mariners.

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Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>Four more years!
Nov 16 - What's it gonna take to lure Billy Wagner to the Mets? A four-year deal would be a great starting point. "Four years would be hard to turn down," Wagner told the Philadelphia Daily News. "The Mets are already ahead in some aspects because of the kind of team they can put on the field."
The Phillies plan to meet Wagner at his Virginia home on Wednesday. The free-spending Mets will visit him early next week.

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Dontrelle Willis (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7133)
Marlins
</td><td> </td><td>One-year ticket for D-Train?
Nov 16 - Dontrelle Willis's big payday won't happen this offseason. His agent, Matt Sosnick, doesn't anticipate the 22-game winner working out a multiyear contract with the Marlins, The Miami Herald reports. When the two sides sit down to discuss a contract later this month, they'll likely try to work out a one-year deal for the left-hander in order to avoid arbitration.

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Boston (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
</td><td> </td><td>A short short list
Nov 16 - Another candidate -- the Braves' Dayton Moore -- has removed himself from the running for the Red Sox GM job, the Boston Herald reports. Only two of the four interviewed candidates -- Jim Beattie and Jim Bowden -- remain in the mix. Team president and CEO Larry Lucchino said the team is not looking at internal candidates.

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Kenji Jojima (http://www.espn.go.com/media/mlb/2005/1109/photo/a_jojima_65.jpg)
</td><td>Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)
</td><td>Next stop: The Big Apple
Nov 16 - The Mets get their chance to wine-and-dine Kenji Jojima on Friday, Newsday reports. The 29-year-old Japanese catcher, the newspaper reports, is leaning toward the Mariners. The agent for Japanese all-star catcher Kenji Jojima said Tuesday his client is not close to signing with the Mariners, one day after Jojima left Seattle following a weekend stay.

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Orlando Hudson (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6875)
Blue Jays
</td><td> </td><td>Not 2B
Nov 16 - Toronto has no interest in dealing Orlando Hudson to Kansas City for pitching, namely relievers Jeremy Affeldt and Mike MacDougal, The Kansas City Star reports. The Royals continue to pursue Mark Grudzielanek and Tony Graffanino but have no plans to contact Nomar Garciaparra.

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B.J. Ryan (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6294)
Orioles
</td><td>Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)?
</td><td>Ryan Express
Nov 16 - B.J. Ryan and his agent made a quick stop in Toronto earlier this week, the Toronto Star reports. GM J.P. Ricciardi said Ryan's visit amounted to "a question-and-answer session" followed by dinner in what will be a multi-city tour for the left-handed closer.

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Scott Eyre (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5869)
Giants
</td><td> </td><td>Erye demand
Nov 16 - White Sox GM Ken Williams has called the agent for lefty reliever Scott Eyre, The Chicago Tribune reports. "I know the White Sox are a team Scott would be interested in," Eyre's agent, Tommy Tanzer, told the newspaper.
The Yankees, Giants and Phillies called recently to express interest. Tanzer describes the Cubs' interest as "pretty serious."

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Jason Bay (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7143)
Pirates
</td><td> </td><td>Bay watch
Nov 16 - Pirates GM Dave Littlefield said negotiations are "ongoing" on a long-term contract for left fielder Jason Bay, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. Bay, who made $355,000 last season, is not yet eligible for salary arbitration.

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RoXer

11-16-2005, 06:06 PM

Yeah, Cameron for Nady supposedley.

OssMan

11-16-2005, 06:29 PM

Why are we looking for a first baseman

The Miz

11-16-2005, 06:30 PM

There is still no blood testing.

The Miz

11-16-2005, 06:35 PM

Nady for Cameron is just waiting for the results of a Cameron physical to go through. I see Nady probably being traded again as a package for someone else (Manny?) but if not I guess he'll just platoon with Mike Jacobs.

OssMan

11-16-2005, 06:37 PM

So they actually did the trade. Cameron for Nady. We gave up a fast, gold glove outfielder for a younger "first baseman/outfielder" with pretty equal offensive numbers I guess. We don't really need a first baseman...I guess if Mike Jacobs struggles or we need depth in OF or something, he would help?

I barely know anything about Xavier Nady. Some one explain him to me

The Miz

11-16-2005, 06:50 PM

He's 27 and like 2 years ago was one of MLB's top prospects. He hasn't lived up to his hype but he also hasn't gotten consistent playing time or a consistent position. He is an okay outfielder, a below average first baseman, and a shit third baseman. He has shown tons of power but he has also sucked bad against RHP.

VonErich Lives

11-16-2005, 07:08 PM

Word is, Damons agent wants an 8year deal and the Red Sox already said "been nice knowing you"

Good defensively, Good on the bases, had a career year at bat (typically tied into being a free agent) had some injuries problems, and he's I think 32?

I'd give him 4years tops... more then that your throwing money away.

Dragon

11-16-2005, 07:12 PM

Yeah, heard he wanted 7 years, $84 million. Ridiculous.

The Miz

11-16-2005, 07:13 PM

Good defensively,

Excuse me?

He probably had a high fielding percentage, but come on.

VonErich Lives

11-16-2005, 07:52 PM

Excuse me?

He probably had a high fielding percentage, but come on.

His fielding part is fine, great range and makes good plays.

The problem is once he gets the ball, he has no arm at all.

Joey Slugs

11-16-2005, 08:20 PM

Miz... instead of talking about this in the casual forum, i'd rather have it out here.

What is the reason behind your half-wit thinking that F% has nothing to do with Gold Glove Awards?

Loose Cannon

11-16-2005, 08:28 PM

He's not arguing that it has nothing to do with it, he's arguing that it shouldn't be the be all end all to winning a gold glove

The Outlaw

11-16-2005, 09:06 PM

To which I agree.

The Miz

11-16-2005, 09:19 PM

He's not arguing that it has nothing to do with it, he's arguing that it shouldn't be the be all end all to winning a gold glove

Exactly.

Fielding percentage does not measure the difficulty of plays the fielder made.

Fielding percentage does not tell you if a player's errors were on routine grounders or impossible hops

Fielding percentage does not tell you if the scorekeeper was being generous or being too harsh

(for infielders) Fielding percentage does not measure the quality of your first baseman, who can turn alot of errors into putouts.

Fielding percentage does not tell you how strong or weak a guys arm is, how quick his hands are when turning two, how he plays bad hops, how well he can range to his right, etc. Most importantly, fielding percentage does not tell you how many runs a fielder has saved.

Fielding percentage is simply not a good measure of defense. If one shortstop has a .992 fielding percentage and another has a .975, that tells me nothing. I will take Julio Lugo and his .968 over almost any shortstop in the AL.

Every stat has its flaws but fielding percentage is way more flawed than most.

Gertner

11-17-2005, 12:06 AM

eric hinske had a great fileding % at 3rd base a couple of years ago, but he was too fat to make any hard plays

Gertner

11-17-2005, 12:08 AM

Jays re-signed Josh Towers to a nice contract. He deserves every penny

YOUR Hero

11-17-2005, 09:41 AM

Matsui and the Yanks come to terms. I think I heard 52 (or was it 58) million

FakeLaser

11-17-2005, 01:22 PM

Nady to the Mets, Cameron to the Padres

VonErich Lives

11-17-2005, 02:59 PM

OssMan

11-17-2005, 03:28 PM

Mets are gonna pursue Carlos Delgado now. NOOooooo :'(

Adder

11-17-2005, 06:33 PM

I think on the radio the said "Blue Jays"

Made a 5yr offer to Burnett, last pitcher to get a 5yr deal was Chan-Ho Park (yeah, that one worked out well).

Also that the Jays are going after Ryan.

Just tell me, do the Jays have the fundsl for this? or will we have another diamond backs?

It's a little known fact, but the Jays are maybe the richest, at least one of the richest teams in baseball. They are owned by Rogers' Cable. A multi Billion dollar company. They've always been wise, if not prudish spenders. They did say however that they were going to give Richardi a larger budget this coming season.

Adder

11-17-2005, 06:35 PM

Mets are gonna pursue Carlos Delgado now. NOOooooo :'(

Great 1B. Don't know why you'd be sad about that. Wish the Jays never got rid of him. Oddly enough it was because of money, now they're looking to be a little more generous with their payroll. Carlos was making 18 million in his last years with the Jays though. Tough to justify that.

OssMan

11-17-2005, 06:41 PM

I'm angry because we just had a rookie Mike Jacobs come in the middle of the season and put up ridiculous numbers at 1B. I don't understand why we are looking for a first baseman. We have so many other priorities that need to be filled first and if you ask me, Mike Jacobs should have the starting job next year. The Mets are ridiculous though.

The Icon of Elisim

11-17-2005, 07:09 PM

It's a little known fact, but the Jays are maybe the richest, at least one of the richest teams in baseball. They are owned by Rogers' Cable. A multi Billion dollar company. They've always been wise, if not prudish spenders. They did say however that they were going to give Richardi a larger budget this coming season.

Riccardi is getting an extra 20 million in payroll. ESPN says that two teams have offered AJ 5 year deals, the Blue Jays for sure (5 years 50 million) and another one that isn't known yet.

I dunno, I'd love a starting pitcher and maybe if Burnett reunites with a coach he likes (Arnsberg was his pitching coach in Florida) then he might be a great and consistent pitcher but I don't see him worth that kind of commitment. Our starting rotation is good enough to wait for something better with Halladay, Bush, Towers and Chacin with Pete Walker in odd starts.

I think the biggest job of the offseason is going to be moving Batista and Hinske and finding a good bat somewhere

YOUR Hero

11-17-2005, 09:15 PM

Bush, Chacin and Towers aren't quite ready for primetime. Chacin has one year under his belt and if he showed anything, it's that he tires. Towers and Bush are fringe starters at best, I love their heart, but the Jays need another reliable pitcher. Someone that can eat up innings and the like. Don't forget Lilly. Not sure if he's on his way out or if he'll be back in the rotation. Hope he's traded along with the guys you mentioned.

Evil Vito

11-17-2005, 09:31 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Crap, the Cubs signed Eyre :( He woulda looked great in a Mets uniform

Anyways, I hope we get Delgado. He should give us the big bat in the offense we sorely need.

Shame about Jacobs though. He'd be a great asset off the bench, though I wouldn't be shocked if Jacobs were sent out for Delgado. If for some reason the Mets still had him and they didn't get one of the catchers they wanted (Bengie, Ramon, trade for Pudge), they COULD have Jacobs start at catcher to keep his bat in the lineup

Problem is, he's worse than Piazza from what I heard (terrible at throwing like Piazza, and without the good game-calling abilities Piazza had)</font>

BCWWF

11-17-2005, 10:34 PM

An unofficial list of players that have been brough up on the Twins table:

Mike Piazza
Tony Graffanino
Bill Mueller
Rondell White
Nomar Garciapara

Come spring training, they might take a look at Jim Thome, but they don't want to trade until he can for sure play.

Yahoo! had the Twins interested in Troy Glaus, but that is obviously bullshit. His name has never come up in local media, and I don't know why they would spend a lot of money on an injury prone player.

We need a couple guys, and the short list I listed above has them. Graffanino at 2nd and Mueller at 3rd, and then if we could add Piazza as well, we would be REALLY good. The first two guys are neccessary, because we need to fill at least two of the three vacancies in the infield, and then we need some sort of a power bat to DH.

1. Shannon Stewart
2. Joe Mauer
3. Bill Mueller
4. Justin Morneau
5. Mike Piazza
6. Torii Hunter
7. Tony Grafanino
8. Whoever ends up playing right field
9. Nick Punto

1. Johan Santana
2. Brad Radke
3. Carlos Silva
4. Scott Baker
5. Kyle Lohse (likely to get traded, where either J.D. Durbin or Francisco Lariano step in)

RP. Matt Guirrier
RP. Juan Rincon
RP. Jesse Crain
RP. J.C. Romero
C. Joe Nathan

Wow.

Gertner

11-18-2005, 12:05 AM

Joey Slugs

11-18-2005, 02:45 AM

the jays got an extra 30 million from rogers for the team this year so yeah. I guess the jays are also looking at erubiel durazo

it's about damn time another team is looking to step up in the AL East. baltimore tried and failed hard... i just hope toronto doesn't pull the same shit.

Joey Slugs

11-18-2005, 02:58 AM

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A.J. Burnett (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6314)
Marlins
</td><td>Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)?
Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
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Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)?
</td><td>High fives for A.J.
Nov 17 - A.J. Burnett, the prize of this winter's free-agent starting pitching market, has received two five-year offers from clubs and expects to receive at least two more within the next week, his agent, Darek Braunecker, told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick. While Braunecker declined to identify specific teams in the bidding for Burnett, a baseball source confirmed that the Blue Jays have offered Burnett a five-year deal for about $50 million. Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi couldn't immediately be reached to comment.
According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, of Burnett's nine suitors, only the Red Sox have indicated that they will not offer five years. Boston, however, will be given the opportunity to take the average annual value above Burnett's target of $12M.
Burnett dined in Florida with the Cardinals on Tuesday and the Nationals on Wednesday.

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Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
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Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>NL East race for Wags
Nov 17 - After meeting at Billy Wagner's Virginia home on Wednesday, the Phillies and Wagner surprisingly agreed to leave their previous offer (two years, with a vesting option that could bring the total to $27 million over three years) on the table, at least for now, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports. The Mets are in position to outbid the Phillies, and have hinted they're willing to guarantee a fourth season -- something the Phillies are unlikely to do. Wagner is scheduled to visit the Mets next week.

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Johnny Damon (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5484)
Red Sox
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</td><td>Johnny cash
Nov 17 - The Yankees have inquired about Johnny Damon's asking price, but even they find the center fielder's initial request -- seven years for $84 million -- a bit too steep, Newsday reports. The Yanks might be more interested if Damon, 32, dropped his price to around $44 million for four years. According to The Boston Globe, the Red Sox are expected to make their initial offer -- three years for $25M-$27M -- to Damon in the next couple of days.
"I believe the Yankees would dominate with Johnny Damon on their team," Damon's agent, Scott Boras, told the newspaper. "The key component is, how do you maximize A-Rod and Jeter? [Damon] makes A-Rod, Jeter and Matsui better."

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Brian Giles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5543)
Padres
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</td><td>The personal touch
Nov 17 - Brian Giles's agent, Joe Bick, confirmed that Yankees manager Joe Torre has tried to contact the 34-year-old outfielder, and that Giles planned to call him back Wednesday, The New York Times reports. Bick told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick that San Diego, Giles' team since 2003, has been less aggressive than several other clubs. The Padres made an offer for three years and about $25 million after the season, then pulled it off the table. Now, with the pending addition of Mike Cameron and his $7 million salary, it appears that San Diego is committed to moving in a different direction.
"We have said for public consumption that Brian would like to go back there," Bick said. "But if they're not interested in being competitive in the process, it may not work out."

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Boston (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
</td><td> </td><td>Beattie takes the lead
Nov 17 - In their search to replace GM Theo Epstein, the Red Sox have asked Jim Beattie back for a second interview, the Boston Herald reports. Braves assistant GM Dayton Moore, who reportedly was the leading candidate after the first interview, removed his name from consideration on Tuesday.

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Rafael Furcal (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6404)
Braves
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</td><td>Leadoff love
Nov 17 - Cubs GM Jim Hendry's "main obsession," writes The Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, is a leadoff hitter, namely shortstop Rafael Furcal. While Hendry declined to comment on negotiations, The Tribune reports that talks continued Wednesday. Furcal reportedly seeks a five-year deal for around $50 million.

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Kenji Jojima (http://www.espn.go.com/media/mlb/2005/1109/photo/a_jojima_65.jpg)
</td><td>Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
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Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)
</td><td>Jojima returning to Japan
Nov 17 - Kenji Jojima has canceled a meeting with the Mets and is preparing to end his current U.S. trip, the Kyodo News reports. The 29-year-old catcher, who already made a stop in Seattle, was scheduled to visit New York as early as Friday. He now plans to return to Japan to consult with his family and friends.

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B.J. Ryan (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6294)
Orioles
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</td><td>Ryan Express
Nov 17 - B.J. Ryan spent Wednesday night dining with Mets front-office personnel in New York, The New York Post reports. He also met with Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski on Wednesday, according to the Detroit Free Press. Earlier this week, the lefty closer and his agent made a quick stop in Toronto, the Toronto Star reports.
GM J.P. Ricciardi said Ryan's visit amounted to "a question-and-answer session" followed by dinner in what will be a multi-city tour for the left-handed closer.

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Kevin Mench (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6900)
Rangers
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Royals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=kan)
</td><td>Mench to Cubs?
Nov 17 - The Cubs may have some interest in trading for outfielder Kevin Mench, the Daily Southtown reports. Though the Rangers desperately need pitching, the newspaper speculates that Cubs center fielder Corey Patterson might be included in the deal.

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Jose Mesa (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4143)
Pirates
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</td><td>Rocky Mountain Mesa?
Nov 17 - Closer Jose Mesa is moving up on the Rockies' free-agent list, The Denver Post reports. "We do have a heightened interest in Jose Mesa," manager Clint Hurdle told the newspaper. "We are looking for a guy who has experience, who's pitched in big ballgames and has also been a closer. He kind of fits that criteria."

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Tom Gordon (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4279)
Yankees
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
</td><td>Gone in a Flash?
Nov 17 - GM Brian Cashman tells the New York Post that he isn't overly optimistic about being able to re-sign setup man Tom Gordon, who wants a three-year deal and prefers to be a closer. "He's certainly exploring the market," Cashman told the newspaper. "There's a spot for him, but I'm sure other teams will have an interest in him, too. The market's probably going to drive his decision."

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Mike Myers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5307)
Red Sox
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Athletics (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=oak)
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</td><td>Myers taking pitches
Nov 17 - The Yankees are among four teams -- the Mets, Red Sox and A's included -- to have expressed interest in lefty relief specialist Mike Myers, the Newark Star-Ledger reports. The Red Sox have presented Myers, 36, with an offer, the Boston Herald reports.

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Mike Piazza (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4928)
Mets
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</td><td>Minny Piazza
Nov 17 - The Twins have contacted former All-Star catcher Mike Piazza, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports. Piazza, 37, probably would split time between catcher and DH. "Minnesota called me, and to me there is interest in Mike," Dan Lozano, Piazza's agent, told the newspaper. "Minnesota definitely is a team Mike is willing to listen to. At this point, it's a little bit premature to determine what's going to happen and where Mike's going to end up."

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Bernie Williams (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4695)
Yankees
</td><td>Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)?
</td><td>Later Bernie
Nov 17 - Re-signing Bernie Williams is not a top priority for the Yankees. GM Brian Cashman spelled it out for Williams' agent, Scott Boras, The New York Post reports. "I told him, it's for another day," Cashman told the newspaper. "In the event there's a role here for Bernie, it would be a secondary role, not an everyday situation."

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Joey Slugs

11-18-2005, 02:38 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Friday, November 18</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5178.jpg
Carlos Delgado (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5178)
Marlins
</td><td>Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
</td><td>Mets, O's after Delgado
Nov 18 - According to the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel, the Mets may be beefing up their pursuit of Carlos Delgado with the pending acquisition of Xavier Nady from San Diego. The key to any deal, though, would be the Mets' top pitching prospect, right-hander Yusmiero Petit. The Marlins could also ask for right-hander Aaron Heilman, first baseman Mike Jacobs or infielder Chris Woodward as part of a deal for Delgado.
The Newark Star-Ledger reported that Mets GM Omar Minaya has spent a considerable amount of time talking to Florida about Delgado. Any team that would acquire Delgado would likely have to assume the rest of his contract. Delgado is due $13.5 million in 2006, $14.5M in 2007 and $16M in 2008. The Orioles are also suitors for Delgado, although they are undecided whether or not they want to part with a top pitching prospect such as left-hander Adam Loewen or right-hander Hayden Penn, according to the Palm Beach Post.

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Esteban Loaiza (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5368)
Nationals
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Dodgers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)?
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Giants (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sfo)?
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Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
</td><td>Heavy interest in Loaiza
Nov 18 - With A.J. Burnett entertaining five-year offers and starting pitching at a premium, Loaiza's representatives are more optimistic that a three-year deal could be forthcoming. Agent John Boggs told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick that 13 clubs have expressed an interest in Loaiza. "He hasn't received the media attention of the Burnetts or the Millwoods," Boggs said. "But the response we've received from baseball people indicates that he's going to be a hot property."
Loaiza's 12-10 record with Washington this season would have been better if he had received more than 3.90 runs per game of support -- 81st among the 93 pitchers listed on the ESPN.com rankings. He threw 217 innings and ranked among the NL leaders with 24 quality starts. But Loaiza's overall numbers also benefited from the spacious dimensions at RFK Stadium. He went 6-4 with a 2.86 ERA at home and 6-6, 4.71 on the road.

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A.J. Burnett (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6314)
Marlins
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Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)?
</td><td>No A.J. for Rangers, O's?
Nov 18 - The Rangers and the Orioles may bow out of the A.J. Burnett sweepstakes because they are unlikely to match the two five-year deals already on the table, according to the Dallas Morning News and the Baltimore Sun. Burnett, the prize of this winter's free-agent starting pitching market, expects to receive at least two more five-year offers within the next week, his agent, Darek Braunecker, told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick.
While Braunecker declined to identify specific teams in the bidding for Burnett, a baseball source confirmed that the Blue Jays have offered Burnett a five-year deal for about $50 million. Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi couldn't immediately be reached to comment.
According to ESPN's Peter Gammons, of Burnett's nine suitors, only the Red Sox have indicated that they will not offer five years. Boston, however, will be given the opportunity to take the average annual value above Burnett's target of $12M.
Burnett dined in Florida with the Cardinals on Tuesday and the Nationals on Wednesday.

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OssMan

11-18-2005, 06:44 PM

Oh man the Nationals signed Marlon Anderson :'(

Evil Vito

11-18-2005, 07:27 PM

Oh man the Nationals signed Marlon Anderson :'(

<font color=goldenrod>Fuck, our bench took a HUGE hit there. I thought for sure he'd wanna come back and play for Willie

Hopefully we can keep Jacobs if we get Delgado, he'd be a big PH threat, IMO.

That or resign Jose Offerman.</font> :|

The Miz

11-19-2005, 10:47 AM

Expect to see this trade finalized soon:

Texas gets:
SP Josh Beckett
3B Mike Lowell

Florida gets:
3B Hank Blalock
prospect

Texas has the right idea getting rid of their overrated hitters for pitching. They need to trade Soriano as well.

The Miz

11-19-2005, 11:02 AM

Jojima will decide by Tuesday whether he goes to Seattle or Fukuoka

RoXer

11-19-2005, 12:49 PM

I have a feeling Lowell will bounce back after last year. Even if its a different league.

BCWWF

11-19-2005, 01:12 PM

That seems to be a pretty good trade on both sides, although I am kind of surprised that the Marlins would part with Beckett.

Joey Slugs

11-19-2005, 01:38 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Saturday, November 19</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6403.jpg
Josh Beckett (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6403)
Marlins
</td><td>Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>Beckett going to Texas?
Nov 19 - A pair of baseball sources have told the Palm Beach Post that the Marlins are close to dealing right-hander Josh Beckett to the Texas Rangers along with third baseman Mike Lowell for third baseman Hank Blalock and a top pitching prospect. One source told the Post that Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria and Rangers owner Tom Hicks have been brokering the deal over the last few days, but the deal may not happen because Texas is unwilling to part with its pitching prospects, believed to be either left-hander John Danks, the Rangers? first-round pick in 2003, or Thomas Diamond, their first-round pick in 2004.
Beckett, the 2003 World Series MVP, is a native of Spring, Texas. He was 15-8 with a 3.38 ERA last season. Blalock turns 25 on Monday, and is coming off a season in which he hit 25 homers with 92 RBI and a .263 batting average.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5536.jpg
Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>Meeting the Mets
Nov 19 - Wagner is eager to make his scheduled visit with the Mets on Monday, according to the New York Post. "We're very excited," Wagner told the Post. "We?ve looked forward to it."
Wagner will make the trip with his agent, Bean Stringfellow, and their wives. He will be looking at housing and schools in the area and then head back to his home in Virginia on Tuesday.
After meeting at Wagner's Virginia home on Wednesday, the Phillies and Wagner surprisingly agreed to leave their previous offer (two years, with a vesting option that could bring the total to $27 million over three years) on the table, at least for now, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports.
The Mets are in position to outbid the Phillies, and have hinted they're willing to guarantee a fourth season -- something the Phillies are unlikely to do. Stringfellow said Wagner is looking for atleast a three-year deal with a no-trade clause.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://www.espn.go.com/media/mlb/2005/1109/photo/a_jojima_65.jpg
Kenji Johjima (http://www.espn.go.com/media/mlb/2005/1109/photo/a_jojima_65.jpg)
</td><td>Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)
</td><td>Mariners or Japan?
Nov 19 - The Japanese catcher is reportedly close to an agreement with Seattle, although he could choose to return to Japan and play for the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks, the Seattle Times reported. According to Japanese media outlets, Johjima, 29, will announce his final decision on Tuesday. The Mariners recently increased their offer to Johjima to $6 million a season after initialing offering $4 million a year over two seasons. Fukuoka has reportedly offered him $10 million for one year.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6404.jpg
Rafael Furcal (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6404)
Braves
</td><td>Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
</td><td>Focused on Furcal
Nov 19 - The Cubs remain in hot pursuit of Rafael Furcal, although Chipper Jones' reported restructuring of his contract is expected to give the Braves more financial flexibility to perhaps re-sign the shortstop, the Daily Southtown reported. The Braves have until Dec. 7 to sign Furcal or relinquish negotiating rights until May. He is reportedly seeking a five-year contract worth around $50 million.
Cubs GM Jim Hendry's "main obsession," writes The Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan, is a leadoff hitter, namely Furcal.

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Octavio Dotel (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6111)
Athletics
</td><td> </td><td>Cards like Dotel
Nov 19 - According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals have shown interest Octavio Dotel, who is rehabilitating from ligament-replacement surgery in June. Dotel, 31, is expected to be ready by Opening Day. His agent, Dan Horwits, said the Cardinals have called him regarding Dotel and that Dotel's willingness to be a setup man has attracted more interest. Dotel was Oakland?s closer at the time of his injury last season.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5784.jpg
Matt Morris (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5784)
Cardinals
</td><td>Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Rockies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=col)?
Royals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=kan)?
</td><td>National attention
Nov 19 - The right-hander has received a three-year offer from a National League team other than the Cardinals, his agent, Barry Axelrod, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Among NL teams, only the Rockies have reportedly expressed an interest in Morris.
With A.J. Burnett most likely out of reach, the Rangers are becoming more serious about Matt Morris, reports the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
Other teams looking at Morris include the Royals, the Rockies and the Mariners, who have apparently already made inquiries about him, according to the Kansas City Star.
Morris made $2.5 million in 2005, went 14-10 with a 4.11 ERA with the Cardinals last season.

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Mark Grudzielanek (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5359)
Cardinals
</td><td>Royals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=kan)?
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>Second look
Nov 19 - The Rangers are looking at Grudzielanek as a second-base option if they happen to trade Alfonso Soriano, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported. Grudzielanek, 35, has expressed a desire to return to the Cardinals, but he?s also been targeted by Boston, the NY Mets and Kansas City.

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The Miz

11-19-2005, 02:06 PM

That seems to be a pretty good trade on both sides, although I am kind of surprised that the Marlins would part with Beckett.
How is this trade even close to fair? One of the best pitchers in the NL when healthy and a decent veteran for a .320 OBP guy who put up these numbers away from Arlington this year?

<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="tablehead"> <tbody><tr class="colhead" align="right"><td align="left">SPLIT</td> <td>AB</td> <td>R</td> <td>H</td> <td>2B</td> <td>3B</td> <td>HR</td> <td>RBI</td> <td>BB</td> <td>HBP</td> <td>SO</td> <td>SB</td> <td>CS</td> <td>AVG</td> <td>OBP</td> <td>SLG</td> <td>OPS</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"><td align="left">
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</td></tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"><td align="left">Away </td> <td>334</td><td>26</td><td>77</td><td>20</td><td>0</td><td>5</td><td>29</td><td>21</td><td>1</td><td>70</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>.231</td><td>.276</td><td>.335</td><td>.611</td></tr></tbody> </table>

Joey Slugs

11-19-2005, 02:41 PM

Mike Lowell
AGE (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=11) YEAR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=287) TEAM (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=175) G (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=77) AB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=5) H (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=81) 2B (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=1) 3B (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=3) HR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=88) R (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=137) RBI (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=145) SB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=151) CS (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=40) SO (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=163) BB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=26) HBP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=85) SH (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=153) SF (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=154) IBB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=94) GDP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=79) BA (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=21) OBA (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=115) SLG (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=157)
31 2005 FLA-N (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2005FLA-N.shtml) 150 500 118 36 1 8 56 58 4 0 58 46 2 1 9 1 14 .236 .298 .360

Josh Beckett
AGE (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=11) YEAR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=287) TEAM (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=175) W (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=188) L (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=105) SV (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=172) ERA (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=72) G (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=77) GS (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=80) TBF (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=173) IP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=97) H (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=81) R (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=137) ER (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=71) HR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=88) BB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=26) SO (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=163) HBP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=85) IBB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=94) WP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=200) BK (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=29) CG (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=36) SHO (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=154)
25 2005 FLA-N (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2005FLA-N.shtml) 15 8 0 3.38 29 29 728 178.7 153 75 67 14 58 166 7 2 5 0 2 1

Hank Blalock
AGE (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=11) YEAR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=287) TEAM (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=175) G (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=77) AB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=5) H (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=81) 2B (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=1) 3B (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=3) HR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=88) R (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=137) RBI (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=145) SB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=151) CS (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=40) SO (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=163) BB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=26) HBP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=85) SH (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=153) SF (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=154) IBB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=94) GDP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=79) BA (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=21) OBA (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=115) SLG (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=157)
24 2005 TEX-A (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2005TEX-A.shtml) 161 647 170 34 0 25 80 92 1 0 132 51 3 0 4 1 16 .263 .318 .431

John Danks
</pre> PECOTA Profile (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/DANKS19850415A.php#historical)

Personally, I think the trade does work for both teams. Especially under the topic of "What have you done for me lately?". Danks & Diamond have huge upside and I can understand why they would stall the trade to keep them in Texas.

I wouldn't be suprised to see the Rangers front office getting involved in trying to sign Loazia & Morris, with a package including Soriano out there to make a trade for another starter/second base option (if both FAs fall away from them).

VonErich Lives

11-19-2005, 02:54 PM

also keep in mind most good NL pitchers become average in the AL.

Evil Vito

11-19-2005, 03:04 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Some caller on WFAN today proposed that the Mets trade for Delgado and then send him to Boston for Manny......that guy's pretty retarded, IMO. Boston would never do that deal, as Delgado's only making about $4 million less than Manny next year (I think....not positive though)

Also, it would leave the Mets with Xavier Nady as an everyday 1B who sucks against RHP :|

Hopefully it was just that guy's suggestion, and isn't being discussed by Mets management</font>

Joey Slugs

11-19-2005, 03:12 PM

also keep in mind most good NL pitchers become average in the AL.

There are always exeptions to that thought. Look at Randy Johnson's stats for his last year with a NL team to his first year with an AL team. (I know you really can't compare RJ with most good NL pitchers, he was just the guy I thought of that has switched leagues twice. Just for the sake of stats)

AGE (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=11) YEAR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=287) TEAM (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=175) W (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=188) L (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=105) SV (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=172) ERA (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=72) G (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=77) GS (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=80) TBF (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=173) IP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=97) H (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=81) R (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=137) ER (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=71) HR (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=88) BB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=26) SO (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=163) HBP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=85) IBB (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=94) WP (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=200) BK (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=29) CG (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=36) SHO (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=154)
25 1989 MON-N (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//1989MON-N.shtml) 0 4 0 6.67 7 6 143 29.7 29 25 22 2 26 26 0 1 2 2 0 0
25 1989 SEA-A (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//1989SEA-A.shtml) 7 9 0 4.40 22 22 572 131.0 118 75 64 11 70 104 3 1 5 5 2 0

40 2004 ARI-N (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2004ARI-N.shtml) 16 14 0 2.60 35 35 964 245.7 177 88 71 18 44 290 10 1 3 1 4 2
41 2005 NY_-A (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2005NY_-A.shtml) 17 8 0 3.79 34 34 920 225.7 207 102 95 32 47 211 12 2 3 1 4 0

</pre>

Joey Slugs

11-19-2005, 03:19 PM

When you look at Cameron & Nady's Translated Batting Statistics (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?mode=viewstat&stat=285) the trade looks even more equal for both sides.

Xavier Nady

AGE YEAR TEAM AB H 2B 3B HR BB HBP SO SB CS OUT RUN RBI BA OBA SA UEQR EQA EQR
26 2005 SD_-N (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2005SD_-N.shtml) 314 85 15 2 14 22 6 65 2 1 231 41 44 .271 .330 .465 41 .270 44

Mike Cameron

AGE YEAR TEAM AB H 2B 3B HR BB HBP SO SB CS OUT RUN RBI BA OBA SA UEQR EQA EQR
32 2005 NY_-N (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/dt//2005NY_-N.shtml) 300 81 22 2 13 29 3 82 16 1 222 48 40 .270 .341 .487 48 .285 48

OssMan

11-19-2005, 04:02 PM

Some caller on WFAN today proposed that the Mets trade for Delgado and then send him to Boston for Manny......that guy's pretty retarded, IMO. Boston would never do that deal, as Delgado's only making about $4 million less than Manny next year (I think....not positive though)

Also, it would leave the Mets with Xavier Nady as an everyday 1B who sucks against RHP :|It also leaves them with Mike Jacobs.

Evil Vito

11-19-2005, 04:08 PM

It also leaves them with Mike Jacobs.

<font color=goldenrod>Jacobs would be involved in the acquiring of Delgado, so the Mets would basically be exchanging a first baseman with potential for a sure-thing outfielder</font>

OssMan

11-20-2005, 11:33 AM

why would we get rid of Mike Jacobs, who if he continued his trend would hit 40+ HRs in a season, for a first baseman who will do less and is on the edge of his career :'(

The Miz

11-20-2005, 11:46 AM

This is the New York Mets we're talking about, why keep a young prospect when you could trade him for an overpaid slugger past his prime?

YOUR Hero

11-20-2005, 12:51 PM

Delgado must be pissed. When he left for Florida last year he did so because he liked the direction and chance the team had in being a contender. Perfect example of becoming too expensive for your team.

Joey Slugs

11-20-2005, 01:18 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/4279.jpg
Tom Gordon (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4279)
Yankees
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
</td><td>A pitch for Flash
Nov 20 - According to the New York Post, the Yankees remain adamentally opposed to offering Gordon a three-year contract, although several key players such as Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and Mariano Rivera are eager to bring him back. The Yankees believe their current two-year offer is "very competitive," the Port reported. But Gordon's agent, Rick Thurman, said eight to 10 teams have told him they want Gordon as a closer and some were considering three-year deals.
GM Brian Cashman recently said he wasn't overly optimistic about being able to re-sign the veteran setup man.

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Los Angeles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)
</td><td> </td><td>Piniella says no
Nov 20 - Lou Piniella told new Dodgers GM Ned Colletti on Saturday that he wasn't interested in the Dodgers' managerial job, reported the Los Angeles Daily News. "He said if this was a year from now, he would be all over it," said Colletti, who spoke to Piniella for 15 minutes.
Colletti and other Dodgers officials met with Jim Fregosi and Terry Collins in the Tampa Bay area on Saturday. Fregosi is currently an Atlanta special assistant, and Collins is the Dodgers' player development director.

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YOUR Hero

11-20-2005, 01:21 PM

Why the hell would a team full of sluggers want Juan Pierre? Texas wouldn't utilize him to his abilities, so offering him in a deal to the rangers is fool-hardy. Of course I say this, so the Rangers will likely do it.

The Miz

11-20-2005, 03:04 PM

"The Indians, Mariners, Royals and Tigers are among the teams that have displayed interest in free agent Kenny Rogers."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Evil Vito

11-20-2005, 05:55 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Since the Marlins are shedding payroll, I wonder if the Mets could swing a deal for Luis Castillo. He's a proven speedster who could possibly even overtake Jose Reyes for the leadoff spot (Jose would be miles better in the 2-hole, IMO)</font>

YOUR Hero

11-20-2005, 08:31 PM

Since the Marlins are shedding payroll, I wonder if the Mets could swing a deal for Luis Castillo. He's a proven speedster who could possibly even overtake Jose Reyes for the leadoff spot (Jose would be miles better in the 2-hole, IMO)

they're going after Furcal. It wouldn't be wise to go after Castillo as well. Besides, I do believe Castillo is locked up for a year or more still.

Evil Vito

11-20-2005, 08:33 PM

they're going after Furcal. It wouldn't be wise to go after Castillo as well. Besides, I do believe Castillo is locked up for a year or more still.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, I'd much rather have Furcal than Castillo...but unfortunately I'm pretty sure Furcal plans on signing with the Cubs</font> :(

The Miz

11-20-2005, 08:38 PM

Marlins won't trade their longest-tenured player. It's like the Astros trading Biggio

BCWWF

11-21-2005, 04:35 AM

Or the Twins trading Hunter :rant:

Joey Slugs

11-21-2005, 12:20 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Monday, November 21</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6403.jpg
Josh Beckett (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6403)
Marlins
</td><td>Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>Rangers-Marlins deal is close
Nov 21 - According to the Miami Herald, a deal is "on the table" in which Florida -- in an effort to shed payroll -- would send right-hander Josh Beckett and third baseman Mike Lowell to Texas for third baseman Hank Blalock and one of two pitching prospects, John Danks or Thomas Diamond. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram and the Boston Herald both report that the left-handed Danks, the Rangers' first-round pick in 2003, is the most likely to go in the deal. Sources say the deal is close. The Rangers, unwilling to part with either pitching prospect, are thought to be working with a third team for a pitcher who could be dealt to Florida to complete the trade. According to the Palm Beach Post, to avoid losing either Danks or Diamond, the Rangers could dangle first baseman Adrian Gonzalez as trade bait to a third team for pitchers to flip to Florida. The Post says the Rangers and Marlins also have discussed scenarios that include center fielder Juan Pierre in the deal.
If the trade with Texas falls apart, the Boston Herald has reported that the Marlins are considering a proposal to send Beckett and Lowell to Boston for shortstop Hanley Ramirez and a pitching prospect, either righty Anibal Sanchez or lefty Jon Lester. The South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that another club open to a Lowell-Beckett package is the Tigers, while the Angels, Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Pirates and Giants could enter the bidding as well.
The Marlins reportedly are trying to pare 25 percent of their payroll, and trading Lowell -- who is owed $18 million over the next two years -- is central to any deal. They would also like to free up money in order to lock up Dontrelle Willis to a new contract.

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Carlos Delgado (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5178)
Marlins
</td><td>Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
</td><td>Mets, O's after Delgado
Nov 21 - According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, the Mets may be beefing up their pursuit of Carlos Delgado now that Mike Cameron is off the payroll. The key to any deal, though, would be the Mets' top pitching prospect, right-hander Yusmiero Petit. The Marlins could also ask for right-hander Aaron Heilman, first baseman Mike Jacobs or infielder Chris Woodward as part of a deal for Delgado.
The Newark Star-Ledger reported that Mets GM Omar Minaya has spent a considerable amount of time talking to Florida about Delgado. Any team that would acquire Delgado would likely have to assume the rest of his contract. Delgado is due $13.5 million in 2006, $14.5M in 2007 and $16M in 2008. The Orioles are also suitors for Delgado, although they are undecided whether or not they want to part with a top pitching prospect such as left-hander Adam Loewen or right-hander Hayden Penn, according to the Palm Beach Post.

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Kenji Johjima (http://www.espn.go.com/media/mlb/2005/1109/photo/a_jojima_65.jpg)
</td><td>Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)
</td><td>Johjima, M's agree on 3-year deal
Nov 21 - The Mariners have agreed to terms with Japanese catcher Kenji Johjima on a three-year, $16.5 million contract, and will make the signing official at a news conference Monday afternoon, a baseball source confirmed to ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick. Johjima's contract can increase to $19 million if he reaches designated thresholds based on plate appearances, the source said.
Johjima, a star in Japan with the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks, was considered one of the top free-agent catchers on the market this winter along with Benji Molina and Ramon Hernandez.

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Brian Giles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5543)
Padres
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Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
</td><td>Giles staying in S.D.?
Nov 21 - GM Kevin Towers believes Brian Giles may give the Padres a hometown discount, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. With the Yankees possibly willing to spending $30-plus million for Giles, the Padres will have to top their three-year, $25.5 million offer to retain the 34-year-old outfielder.

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Boston (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
</td><td> </td><td>Bowden coming back
Nov 21 - In their search to replace GM Theo Epstein, the Red Sox over the weekend interviewed White Sox director of player development Dave Wilder and gave Jim Beattie a second look, The Boston Globe reports. Washington GM Jim Bowden reportedly will get his second interview on Monday.
According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Pirates owner Kevin McClatchy said the Red Sox had yet to contact him seeking permission to talk to Pirates GM Dave Littlefield.
McClatchy was responding to a rumor that the Red Sox were interested in Littlefield, a New England native, and that Beattie would be Littlefield's assistant.

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VonErich Lives

11-21-2005, 02:50 PM

Someone tell me, is Josh Beckett really this good? or is there some hidden potential?

I don't like the sox giving up Handley for him, unless they have a deal for some good young guys for Manny.

CNM

11-21-2005, 03:05 PM

Yes, Josh Beckett is good. Very good. When he puts it all together he'll win a few Cy Youngs.

Evil Vito

11-21-2005, 03:11 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Mariners reportedly sign Johjima for 3-years, $16.5 million</font>

Joey Slugs

11-21-2005, 03:28 PM

Mariners reportedly sign Johjima for 3-years, $16.5 million

It's already in my Insider post.

Joey Slugs

11-21-2005, 05:50 PM

Joey Slugs

11-21-2005, 07:22 PM

Beckett & Lowell are being traded to the Red Sox. Gammons JUST broke the news.

VonErich Lives

11-21-2005, 07:23 PM

Texas paper is reporting a deal is done, but not with him, he's going to Boston.

Handley Rameriz and a pitching prospect for Beckett & Lowell.

The Miz

11-21-2005, 07:23 PM

It's not official yet

VonErich Lives

11-21-2005, 07:24 PM

Beckett & Lowell are being traded to the Red Sox. Gammons JUST broke the news.

Your a little quicker on the draw then me :D

VonErich Lives

11-21-2005, 07:25 PM

It's not official yet

No, for it to be official it would be announced by MLB and they'd take their physicals.

The Miz

11-21-2005, 07:29 PM

VonErich Lives

11-21-2005, 07:31 PM

Will be interesting to see which prsopect goes along with Hanley Ramirez. ESPN Radio reported Anibal Sanchez but I've also heard Jon Lester's name. If it's Sanchez and not Lester this is a great trade for Boston.

The talk here today was the Sox wouldn't give up Lester.

Although, the idea of Lowe & Renteria... could be the 2nd highest paid left side of the infield besides A-rod/Jeter... Of course, A-Rod & Jeter can actually play...

oh, Gammons is reporting it's Sanchez.

YOUR Hero

11-21-2005, 09:09 PM

So what's Boston going to do with their existing 3B? or is Lowel going to play 2B

The Miz

11-21-2005, 09:59 PM

Their existing 3B is free-agent Bill Mueller. The Twins are interested in him and they'll probably just let him walk.

YOUR Hero

11-21-2005, 10:17 PM

Which means Damons will walk if I understand things. I guess that way the line of thinking I was getting at. The implications of Lowel.

Jesus Shuttlesworth

11-21-2005, 11:45 PM

Mueller and Millar are probably on their way out which Damon is not far behind. Damon already said something about breaking up the "core" of guys would make him want to leave. I can see Youklis playing first fulltime now too. Hanley is a great propect but Beckett is a great pitcher, plus Red Sox have plenty of other prospects coming up through the system.

BCWWF

11-22-2005, 02:18 AM

Yeah, Twins are going to get Mueller and Graffanino to go along with Piazza.

Evil Vito

11-22-2005, 06:44 AM

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

<font color=goldenrod>^ This site is reporting the Wagner will accept a 4-year, $40 mil offer from the Mets today

Take that for what it's worth, I think it could be true though because mlbtraderumors was the first site that I saw reporting the Cameron/Nady deal....and that was several days before any other site announced it

That 4th year will more than likely be a waste of $10 mil on a 37-38 year old, but hopefully he won't regress to the point where he can't be used.

Hope it's true......Wagner</font> :love:

Joey Slugs

11-22-2005, 08:56 AM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Tuesday, November 22</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6403.jpg
Josh Beckett (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6403)
Marlins
</td><td>Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>Beckett Boston bound
Nov 22 - The Red Sox and Marlins have come to a tentative agreement on a trade that would send RHP Josh Beckett third baseman 3B Mike Lowell to Boston for highly touted SS Hanley Ramirez, RHP Anibal Sanchez and a minor-league pitcher. The five-man deal is contingent on all players passing physicals. An official announcement is not expected for a day or two, which leaves open the possibility that it could still fall apart, sources outside the Red Sox organization have told ESPN's Peter Gammons.

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Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>Meet the Mets, get an offer
Nov 22 - The Mets are expected to pitch Billy Wagner a $30 million offer before his two-day New York-area visit ends Tuesday, the New York Daily News reports. In advance of Wagner's trip, the Mets shipped him a DVD with celebrities -- singer Tim McGraw, sportscaster Bob Costas, actor Kevin James and comedian Jerry Seinfeld -- touting New York City.
The Mets are in position to outbid the Phillies, and have hinted they're willing to guarantee a fourth season -- something the Phillies are unlikely to do.

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Brian Giles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5543)
Padres
</td><td>Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
</td><td>Giles staying in S.D.?
Nov 22 - GM Kevin Towers believes Brian Giles may give the Padres a hometown discount, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. With the Yankees possibly willing to spending $30-plus million for Giles, the Padres will have to top their three-year, $25.5 million offer to retain the 34-year-old outfielder.
The Yankees are playing phone tag with Giles, the New York Post reports. Manager Joe Torre and former Yankees right fielder Paul O'Neill have been unable to reach Giles.

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Jesus Shuttlesworth

11-22-2005, 11:37 AM

Yeah, Twins are going to get Mueller and Graffanino to go along with Piazza.Is Graffanino offically leaving Boston though? I thought I would see him back in a Sox uniform next year.

BCWWF

11-22-2005, 12:03 PM

Yes <font color=black>hopefully

VonErich Lives

11-22-2005, 01:34 PM

Yes <font color=black>hopefully

Can the sox still negotiate with him or is he one of those that they had a window and now can't talk to him until after spring training?

VonErich Lives

11-22-2005, 01:40 PM

Which means Damons will walk if I understand things. I guess that way the line of thinking I was getting at. The implications of Lowel.

How do you see Lowell effecting Damon?

3rd base v. Center Field?

The more I hear from Borus the more I think he's gone, but I don't know if anyone will give him what he's asking so he might be back.

Borus did a binder on Damon that he passed out. Some of the chapter titles were funny.

"Why johnny damon is better then rickey henderson".
"Why johnny damon is the most durable CF in the majors and deserves a 7yr deal"
"Johnny damon will have started the most games of any CF before his carrer is over"
"Johnny damon will get hit 3000hit in (I think he said 2009 or sumthin)"

just some funny stuff.

The sox feel the over payed a bit for Variteck (years/dollars) but what he means to the team/pitching it was worth it.

They wont over pay for Damon.

I didn't realise Lowell won a gold glove last year.

They said that 3days after the season this year, he drove somewhere to see his minor league hitting coach to work on his hitting. That during the season almost every game he had a different stance and even tried batting with one contact lens thinking it might help his seeing the ball somehow.

He turns it around, you have a good feilder, .275 hitter, capable of 20-30HR... That along with the pitching are big lifts for the sox.

If Damon does walk, they have to address the leadoff hitter position.

The Icon of Elisim

11-22-2005, 02:32 PM

VonErich Lives

11-22-2005, 05:09 PM

They say that it'll affect Damon since he has said publicly that one he would be more comfotable leaving if the Sox let their core guys leave which they seem to be doing now that they have replaced Mueller and Millar seems to be on his way out if they are gonna start Youklis at 1B

Actually, there is talk of Youklis being delt, I forgot the name, but someone had a young 1B they want to move, I don't remember who they were talking about on the radio.

Yeah, Damon said he would stay if the team stayed, but guess what, Damons going to do what's best for his wallet, plain and simple.

You really think if the Red Sox give him the best offer, he's going to go elsewhere because there are "new players"...

But as I've said, I wouldn't give him a 7yr deal.

4 years, maybe 5/6 options.

But, 7yr gauranteed, no way.

On a side note, this is around the same time the Sox got Schilling (theo had thanksgiving dinner at Schillings place in AZ).

It seems the Sox time their "big move" right when the season ticket renwal bills go out.

VonErich Lives

11-22-2005, 05:11 PM

The Icon of Elisim

11-22-2005, 08:09 PM

They also got Pedro around Thanksgiving. Simmons has an article on ESPN about the trade and notes all that stuff

Of course Damon is going to do whats best for his wallet, because the core of the team is gone. If they were keeping Millar and Mueller then chances are he wouldn't be going after the most unrealistic contract this side of Bryant Reeves

VonErich Lives

11-22-2005, 08:26 PM

YOUR Hero

11-23-2005, 09:43 AM

Someone tell me, is Josh Beckett really this good? or is there some hidden potential?

I don't like the sox giving up Handley for him, unless they have a deal for some good young guys for Manny.

Remember, this is the same Josh Beckett that was the World Series MVP for the Marlins. You got more than a guy with hidden potential.

The Miz

11-23-2005, 10:16 AM

Marlins get:
1B Mike Jacobs
RP Yusmeiro Petit

Mets get:
1B Carlos Delgado

ROFL nice one Mets

VonErich Lives

11-23-2005, 11:18 AM

Remember, this is the same Josh Beckett that was the World Series MVP for the Marlins. You got more than a guy with hidden potential.

9 x on the DL, 6 times for a blister.

scares me a bit.

VonErich Lives

11-23-2005, 11:20 AM

Reports that Delgado is delt to the Mets for Jacobs & Petit.

Evil Vito

11-23-2005, 12:26 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I love this trade for the Mets.

We fill two of our needs (power bat and 1st baseman) while still keeping Milledge. Also, Billy Wagner has said that he wants to be on a team that can make it to the postseason, and with the acquistion of Delgado, the Mets may have proved to him that they are willing to spend to get the offense they need. The Mets probably could have won 12-13 more games last season if Delgado was on the team. They just added a TON of run support.

I will admit, it's hard to say goodbye to Jacobs and Petit. However, there's a chance they may never pan out as planned. Jacobs is the one that worries me the most, as his swing reminded me of Chipper Jones. Hopefully Jacobs won't become the Chipper Jones of the Marlins and kill the Mets every time.

My only other concern is his reaction to the city. Listening to the radio, several fans have already stated that they will boo the crap out of Delgado from the get-go and not even give him a chance. If the pressure were to get to Delgado and he were to produde a Beltran-2005 type season, the fans would kill him and he'd probably demand a trade.

Overall, I like this deal. 2006 is gonna be interesting</font>

The Miz

11-23-2005, 12:53 PM

Reports that Delgado is delt to the Mets for Jacobs & Petit.

No way?!

The Miz

11-23-2005, 01:02 PM

The "win now" attitude is why the Mets have sucked the last 4 years. Trading quality prospects for a 34 year old slugger past his prime is not a good move.

Reports are also saying that the Mets may be getting Soriano for prospects. The Delgado deal I don't like but if they get Soriano they are retarded

Evil Vito

11-23-2005, 01:27 PM

<font color=goldenrod>No way do I want Soriano. I'd rather have the $7 million paperweight Kaz Matsui playing 2B next year.

I heard the Rangers want Milledge for Soriano</font> :|

DaveWadding

11-23-2005, 04:40 PM

White Sox get:
1B Jim Thome
cash

Phillies get:
CF Aaron Rowand

:'(

RoXer

11-23-2005, 05:56 PM

I think bad move for the ChiSox

McLegend

11-23-2005, 05:59 PM

I am pretty surprised the Phillies were able to get rid of Thome

OssMan

11-23-2005, 06:21 PM

I hate my life

OssMan

11-23-2005, 06:23 PM

I hope something happens to Carlos Delgado that will make him ineligble for the entire season and I hope that Mike Jacobs hits 40+ home runs in 5 consecutive seasons and I hope that Yusmeiro Petit ends up to be a 300 game winner.

Adder

11-23-2005, 07:19 PM

White Sox get:
1B Jim Thome
cash

Phillies get:
CF Aaron Rowand

:'(

Why? Thome to DH? That's the only thing I can figure. Or is Konerko on his way out?

Joey Slugs

11-23-2005, 07:35 PM

Thome is the new DH. Thomas' career with the Sox is over. Konerko is still the top priority.

This makes zero fucking sense. Is Pods the new CF? Do they bring Anderson up for good for LF? This is not the same Jim Thome that killed us while he was with Cleveland.

See ya Aaron. I hope you win a gold glove every year for the rest of your career.

So much for the "3 Stooges".

Joey Slugs

11-23-2005, 07:37 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Wednesday, November 23</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5178.jpg
Carlos Delgado (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5178)
Marlins
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Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
</td><td>Mets to land slugger Delgado
Nov 23 - The Mets have reached an agreement to acquire slugger Carlos Delgado from the salary-dumping Marlins, Newsday first reported Wednesday morning. The Mets will send pitching prospect Yusmeiro Petit and first baseman Mike Jacobs to the Marlins for Delgado. The Marlins will give the Mets $7 million to cover part of the $48 million owed to Delgado over the next three years.
According to Newsday, the trade won't be finalized until medical exams are complete and commissioner Bud Selig signs off on the deal.

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Jim Thome (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4762)
Phillies
</td><td>White Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chw)
</td><td>Thome-Rowand swap
Nov 23 - The Phillies reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday to send Jim Thome and cash to the World Series champion White Sox for center fielder Aaron Rowand. The deal, first reported by ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney, is subject to the players passing physicals, the Phillies said.
Thome, an oft-injured first baseman, is owed $43.5 million in the final three seasons of his contract.

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Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
</td><td>Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>Eye for the Big Apple?
Nov 23 - After a two-day visit with the Mets, Billy Wagner left New York with an offer (three years, with an option for a fourth year, valued at $30 million to $31 million), The New York Times reports. When asked if a four-year contract would close the deal with the Mets, Wagner said, "I'm pretty open to anything. Definitely, it'll be worth coming to New York if I'm kind of overwhelmed. Four years is a big deal to us, but it all comes down to what our family decides."
The Braves and the Red Sox have contacted Wagner's agent.

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Manny Ramirez (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5132)
Red Sox
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Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Angels (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa)?
</td><td>Manny's short list
Nov 23 - Manny Ramirez's current wish (subject to change, of course) is to play for the Angels or the Mariners, the Boston Herald reports. Seattle likely interests Ramirez because Mike Hargrove managed him in Cleveland.
Teammate David Ortiz thinks Ramirez won't be in left field for the Red Sox come Opening Day.
"Manny is not returning to Boston," Ortiz said Monday during a news conference at the Office of the Sports Secretary of the Dominican Republic. "Manny lives a difficult situation that only he and his family know about, and he does not want to play there."

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B.J. Ryan (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6294)
Orioles
</td><td>Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)
Tigers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det)
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Blue Jays (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tor)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)?
</td><td>O's make 3-year offer
Nov 23 - The Orioles have offered B.J. Ryan a three-year deal worth $18 million, The Baltimore Sun reports. But an American League executive, according to the newspaper, says Ryan could command a four-year deal worth $30 million. Ryan spent Monday and Tuesday in Cleveland, but GM Mark Shapiro wouldn't say if the Indians made the lefty closer an offer.

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Bob Howry (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6036)
Indians
</td><td>Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)?
Tigers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det)
Brewers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=mil)
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)
</td><td>Fast-acting relief
Nov 23 - Less than a week after signing lefty reliever Scott Eyre, the Cubs may be close to landing righty setup man Bobby Howry, The Chicago Tribune reports. Howry reportedly had been seeking a three-year deal worth around $12 million to re-sign with the Indians.

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Brian Giles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5543)
Padres
</td><td>Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
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Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
</td><td>Yanks looking elsewhere?
Nov 23 - The Padres balked at the three-year proposal received from Brian Giles' agent on Thursday, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. According to the New York Daily News, it appears the Yankees' interest in Giles may be waning, as some members of the front office believe the veteran outfielder would rather remain in San Diego.

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Los Angeles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)
</td><td> </td><td>Black in Blue?
Nov 23 - Angels pitching coach Bud Black might be a candidate for the Dodgers' managing job after all. He just wants a little time to think about it. Black declined an invitation to be interviewed after the Dodgers received permission Tuesday to speak with him. He signed a two-year contract with the Angels earlier this month.

The frontrunner, according to the Los Angeles Daily News, remains Braves special assistant Jim Fregosi.

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Matt Morris (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5784)
Cardinals
</td><td>Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)
</td><td>A pitch for Morris
Nov 23 - The pitching-starved Rangers plan to offer veteran right-hander Matt Morris a contract -- likely two years -- this week, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports.
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Adrian Gonzalez (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7054)
Rangers
</td><td>Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
</td><td>Yo Adrian!
Nov 23 - The Red Sox have spoken with the Rangers about trading for first baseman Adrian Gonzalez, The Boston Globe reports. Texas is believed to be interested in acquiring an outfield prospect, possibly Double-A outfielder Brandon Moss, but Boston would likely offer Triple-A catcher Kelly Shoppach, a Fort Worth native.

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Paul Byrd (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5468)
Angels
</td><td>Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)
</td><td>Byrd in hand?
Nov 23 - Citing club sources, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports the Rangers plan to offer soft-throwing right-handed starter Paul Byrd a contract this week.
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The Icon of Elisim

11-23-2005, 07:54 PM

Terrible trade for the ChiSox, doubt they will be able to replace what Rowand brought to the table

The Icon of Elisim

11-23-2005, 08:02 PM

Plan B Rumblings

Officials of two teams interested in B.J. Ryan forecast last week that Ryan will sign in Philadelphia if Wagner doesn't. But an executive of another interested club predicts Ryan will wind up with the Red Sox, Indians, Blue Jays or Yankees.

Cmon JP, you can do it

The Icon of Elisim

11-23-2005, 08:19 PM

Marlins won't trade their longest-tenured player. It's like the Astros trading Biggio

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2005/11/23/a1c_marlins_1123.html

According to this Castillo, Pierre and Lo Duca are all on the trading block

The Miz

11-23-2005, 08:55 PM

The White Sox are also giving up two quality prsopects, what the fuck are they smoking?

Howry got 3 yrs $12 mil from Cubs

The Icon of Elisim

11-23-2005, 10:04 PM

Nice pick up

ESPN now has Mota on the trading block

The Miz

11-23-2005, 10:53 PM

Cubs about to acquire Juan Pierre. lol 1998 Marlins all over again. Willis and Cabrera will probably be the only players on the 2006 team that were on the 2005 team.

VonErich Lives

11-24-2005, 03:44 AM

Cubs about to acquire Juan Pierre. lol 1998 Marlins all over again. Willis and Cabrera will probably be the only players on the 2006 team that were on the 2005 team.

Someone asked Henry if he's going to do in Boston what he did in Florida.

That's the only time you ever see Henry really get pissed (or close to it). He points out Huizinga owned the team when the fire sale happened.

Which is true, but I thought I remembered he had to dismantle the team before Henry would take it... I could be off there...

BCWWF

11-24-2005, 03:53 AM

Yeah, giving up Roward for Thome, who last time I heard isn't confirmed healthy and isn't used to DHing, is a bad move IMO. It kind of gives them wiggle room if Konerko goes, but especially if he stays, I think it was an unneccessary move.

YOUR Hero

11-24-2005, 10:14 AM

TSN, when reporting on the Phillies/WSox trade stated "White Sox just got better" - I gave it the ":wtf:"

Gertner

11-24-2005, 10:17 AM

good move by Mets. Delgado is a good guy. I wish my jays still had him.

YOUR Hero

11-24-2005, 10:21 AM

Seems more likely that in a few years the Marlins won't be playing in Miami. Stadium proposal was defeated, they don't like Dolphins stadium, etc. IN fact I think MLB has even given the the go ahead to look around at other cities.

Awesome, a two time World Series Champion and still not a solid franchise. I hope they do move.

OssMan

11-24-2005, 10:57 AM

virginia does not have a sports team :shifty:

VonErich Lives

11-24-2005, 11:26 AM

So, the Red Sox are taking the full 72hrs to go over Beckett's medicle files before the trade's offical. Should be sometime today.

BCWWF

11-24-2005, 12:30 PM

Yeah, I could see the Marlins being in Portland in a few years. Other possibilities I've heard are Indianapolis and Las Vegas, although Vegas seems pretty unlikely.

Is D-Train going anywhere?

The Icon of Elisim

11-24-2005, 12:59 PM

Dontrelle and Cabrera seem like the only players from last year that are untouchable

BCWWF

11-24-2005, 01:08 PM

In a way, besides Beckett, it might not be such a bad idea to be selling these guys off. I mean most of last season they weren't even in contention, and guys like Lowell, Laduca, Delgado, and Pierre aren't getting any better. Instead of flirting with the wildcard again, they are already getting some pretty decent prospects it looks like. Dunno.

The Miz

11-24-2005, 01:30 PM

If they're going to do a firesale, they're at least doing it right and getting quality prsopects. The Beckett trade was retarded but Jacobs and Petit both have great upside. We'll see who they get for Pierre. I heard they were offered overrated Milledge but took Petit instead which was a great move.

The Miz

11-24-2005, 01:32 PM

Cleaned up the main page, moved the options to the second post. Just signings on the first post now

Loose Cannon

11-24-2005, 01:35 PM

Loose Cannon

11-24-2005, 01:35 PM

*2003.

Some other team won in 2004

MVP

11-24-2005, 07:28 PM

good move by Mets. Delgado is a good guy. I wish my jays still had him.

I bet he drops the ball like Beltran and just about every big name the Mets pick up.

VonErich Lives

11-24-2005, 09:00 PM

I'm a fan of Beckett's (also have a nice Stadium Giveaway Bobblehead of his) but I think he's very risky and injury prone. You always have guys that play like heroes during playoffs and he was on fire in 2004. But during the season, he just one of those guys that can go eathier way and you just don't know.

the injuries do worry me, but from what I've read 6 of his 9 IR trips were for blisters...

At first I felt better, but the more I think of it, if he keeps developing blisters, then it's probably a mechanical issue... and do you start messing with the mechanics and risk he's never the same?

Jesus Shuttlesworth

11-24-2005, 09:25 PM

I'm worried about Beckett being able to play in Boston. I know he is sort of a hick that backs the NRA. He is big into hunting and all that so I dunno how much he is going to like the Boston media.

YOUR Hero

11-24-2005, 10:14 PM

I'm worried about Beckett being able to play in Boston. I know he is sort of a hick that backs the NRA. He is big into hunting and all that so I dunno how much he is going to like the Boston media.

Don't worry. I heard John rocker was going to teach him the fine art of big city public speaking.

Jesus Shuttlesworth

11-24-2005, 10:38 PM

Maybe it will be completely fine, I am just basing it off the fact that I know he supports the NRA which means he is a hick. I'm figuring a guy like that really won't enjoy the pressure of Red Sox baseball/Boston media.

Loose Cannon

11-24-2005, 10:41 PM

LOL Rocker. That guy was the devil to NY

el fregadero

11-24-2005, 10:48 PM

Backing the NRA does not make you a hick.

Evil Vito

11-25-2005, 12:40 AM

<font color=goldenrod>The Red Sox/Marlins deal is official now, Guillermo Mota has been added to the group headed to Boston</font>

VonErich Lives

11-25-2005, 04:59 AM

Maybe it will be completely fine, I am just basing it off the fact that I know he supports the NRA which means he is a hick.

Backing the NRA does not make you a hick.

Thank you... (Not that this is the "discussion forum" and no, I don't support the NRA, I'm all for the right to bare arms, but there's a big difference between a hunting rifle or a 9mm semi-auto and an Uzi with vest piercing bullets, the NRA doesn't get that.)

Also, Stima... you're a local boy... remember a guy called "The Hick from French Lick?"

Larry Bird did fine here. Most people do, they get used to it and how to deal with the media.

I'm more worried about him on field then off.

I'm sure we could list a lot more players in all sport who did fine in Boston that we're from "laid back" places.

Last young pitcher from Texas did pretty good here... until he gained some weight, lost 5-10mph on his fastball and then got motivated by a GM that didn't want to pay him top $$$ for sub-par performance.
Roger Clemens should thank Dan Duqette when he goes into the HOF.

MVP

11-25-2005, 04:46 PM

Schilling is from Alaska and Timlin is from Texas, and they haven't been hassled by Boston media.

I would be more concerned with what the media says about Beckett's health before his political opinions.

The Miz

11-25-2005, 05:52 PM

Schilling was born in Alaska, that doesn't make him from Alaska. Even ikf he was, what does that have to do with anything? Lotta hicks in Alaska?

YOUR Hero

11-25-2005, 07:38 PM

Alaska is full of hicks. Just like the northern part of BC where I live.

The Icon of Elisim

11-25-2005, 07:50 PM

Rumors is that the Jays are going after Overbay. Dunno if he is a the power hitter that we need but he'd for sure be an upgrade over Hinske at 1B

YOUR Hero

11-25-2005, 08:02 PM

A one for one swap, I'd take Overbay. Hopefull that's what is being considered. Anything is better than Hinskeas far as I'm concerned.

The Miz

11-25-2005, 08:15 PM

Ryan signs a 5 year / $47 million deal with the Jays.

Holy shit JP

The Miz

11-25-2005, 08:20 PM

Rumors is that the Jays are going after Overbay. Dunno if he is a the power hitter that we need but he'd for sure be an upgrade over Hinske at 1B

Jays offered McGowan and Brewers declined. Overbay isn't enough of an upgrade over Hinske to offer much more.

Evil Vito

11-25-2005, 08:23 PM

Ryan signs a 5 year / $47 million deal with the Jays.

Holy shit JP

<font color=goldenrod>Holy fuck :|

Omar....get Wagner. NOW!!!!!</font>

The Miz

11-25-2005, 08:28 PM

Wagner is 99% to the Mets, don't worry. Omar said he wants to get the closer out fo the way as soon as posible and spend more time taking care of catcher and other positions.

The Icon of Elisim

11-25-2005, 08:34 PM

Holy shit wow

Pretty happy about this, that is a huge contract but I trust JP

The Miz

11-25-2005, 08:40 PM

Yeah, it's a pretty expensive BJ

The Icon of Elisim

11-25-2005, 08:43 PM

If I had a newspaper I would run that as the front headline.

"JP gets expensive BJ, says its worth it"

YOUR Hero

11-25-2005, 09:05 PM

Bye bye Batista. Or maybe he'll say around as a middle reliever/spot starter.

lol, TIoE

YOUR Hero

11-25-2005, 09:24 PM

I would have to think that JP's signing of BJ was also a signal to AJ that the Jays are serious. I wouldn't be surprised to see AJ sign relatively soon now.

RoXer

11-26-2005, 12:48 AM

Isn't that extremely high for him, or is it just me?

The Miz

11-26-2005, 02:43 AM

Extremely high for any closer not named Mariano or Dennis

YOUR Hero

11-26-2005, 11:42 AM

Toronto had a real need. They are filling a much needed... need.

Gertner

11-26-2005, 12:14 PM

trading for overbay doesn't make much sense since the jays already said they are moving hillenbrand to first base and hinske to the bench.

btw I'm am so fucking happy the jays landed Ryan. no more Blown Save Batista.

BCWWF

11-26-2005, 02:32 PM

Wait, is it true that Mota is going to Boston too? Or was that a joke.

Evil Vito

11-26-2005, 03:20 PM

Wait, is it true that Mota is going to Boston too? Or was that a joke.

<font color=goldenrod>True.</font>

Evil Vito

11-26-2005, 03:40 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Read a report that once the Mets get the whole Wagner/catcher situations out of the way, they might try seeing if Trevor Hoffman wants to come to NY and set up Wagner (or vice-versa in some cases...a 2-headed closer, if you will)

As great as that would make the Mets pen, I just can't see a guy who's been a regular closer his whole career (with over 400 saves, no less) decide to give up an everyday closer's role unless the Mets SEVERLY overpaid for him, which I would rather not see.</font>

Joey Slugs

11-26-2005, 05:46 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Friday, November 25</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6639.jpg
Lyle Overbay (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6639)
Brewers
</td><td>Blue Jays (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tor)?
</td><td>Jays pursuing Overbay
Nov 25 - According to the Toronto Sun, the Blue Jays are trying to acquire first baseman Lyle Overbay from the Milwaukee Brewers. The Brewers reportedly asked for right-hander Dustin McGowan, a former No. 1 pick, in exchange for Overbay, 28, who hit .276 with 19 home runs and 72 RBI in 2005. Toronto declined a deal for McGowan, 23, who apperaed in 13 games for the Jays last season, and finished with 1-3 with a 6.35 ERA in seven starts.
Dealing Overbay would free up Milwaukee's first-base job for hot prospect Prince Fielder.

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Bengie Molina (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6026)
Angels
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
</td><td>Mets closing on Molina
Nov 25 - The Mets are close to making a contract offer to free-agent catcher Bengie Molina, the New York Post reports. Alan Nero, Molina's agent, said he had had conversations with the Mets, but wouldn't say if the Mets had made an offer yet.
Molina, who has spent his entire career with the Angels, is coming off his best season and is one of the best-available catchers in free agency. He hit .295 with 15 home runs and 69 RBI and threw out 31 percent of all runners who attempted to steal against him.

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Brad Ausmus (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5095)
Astros
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Rockies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=col)?
Angels (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa)?
Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
Astros (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou)
</td><td>Ausmus exploring options
Nov 25 - The conventional wisdom is that Ausmus will either return to Houston or sign with San Diego in 2006. But his agent, Peter Mrowka, told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick that Ausmus is willing to consider all the alternatives. "The Astros have been very attentive," Mrowka said. "But Brad isn?t going to limit himself to any one team. We?re keeping all the options open."
Ausmus, 36, wants a more lucrative deal than the two-year, $4 million contract he signed in November 2003. At the time, it was believed that Ausmus would help groom John Buck for the role of full-time catcher in Houston. But the Astros traded Buck to Kansas City, and Ausmus averaged 116 starts behind the plate the past two seasons. His .351 on-base percentage this year was his highest since 2000.

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BCWWF

11-26-2005, 05:58 PM

If the Sox got Mota too, they got a huge steal

Joey Slugs

11-26-2005, 08:40 PM

Ryan signs a 5 year / $47 million deal with the Jays.

File under "See: Dan Kolb"

The Icon of Elisim

11-26-2005, 08:55 PM

Yeah, and you are basing that off of what?

Kolb's big season he got 39 saves and got 21 strike outs and 39 the year before

Ryan had 34 saves and 100 k's and 122 k's the year before

No doubt the Jays overpaid but Ryan is still a good player and will be a solid closer

OssMan

11-26-2005, 09:30 PM

LOL Dan Kolb

YOUR Hero

11-26-2005, 10:35 PM

Dan Kolb. There's a name that gives me shivers.

OssMan

11-27-2005, 12:05 AM

LOL just remembered that the Braves choked in the NLDS.

OssMan

11-27-2005, 12:09 AM

Gertner

11-27-2005, 12:15 AM

Jays have to over-pay to get players. I'm still happy as fuck. he can't be worse than Batista

Evil Vito

11-27-2005, 12:39 AM

I'm watching videos of Mike Jacobs from this season. I can't believe the Mets traded him. He has such a nice swing. He seemed so perfect. I am going to miss him so much. I was even at his first game/at bat/hit/home run. I hope he kills us every time we play the Marlins. This is just like Scott Kazmir all over again.

<font color=goldenrod>Jacobs still has severe problems with swinging at balls out of the strike zone...this problem could become huge if it isn't corrected fast. Jacobs will likely see his share of ups and downs in his full rookie season.

I too was at his first game/at bat/hit/home run, and I will miss him...but this is NOWHERE near Kazmir level. Here, they are trading a guy who had one great month for a guy with a career of sucess. Kazmir-for-Zambrano was a young fireballer for a crappy pitcher who couldn't find the strikezone. Delgado makes everyone in the batting order better...Zambrano did fuck all for the Mets rotation.

Also, fuck you. No true fan wishes to get destroyed by the opposition.</font> :)

The Outlaw

11-28-2005, 01:10 AM

File under "See: Dan Kolb"

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Also, LOL Mets.

Evil Vito

11-28-2005, 06:43 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Omar still wants Manny apparently :|

He's already said Delgado will be on the team, I'm guessing if we were to give up Manny without dealing Milledge, we'd have to include Floyd in there, though he's on the last year in his deal. I'd try and package together something to bring Manny and Clement to NY, but I'd keep Milledge at all costs. Maybe they want youth and would rather take Nady or Diaz? I dunno.

I won't lie though, the thought of this lineup has me salivating:

SS - Reyes (Switch)
CF - Beltran (Switch)
RF - Manny (Right)
1B - Delgado (Left)
3B - Wright (Right)
LF - Floyd (Left)
C - Hernandez/Molina (Right)
2B - Matsui/Hernandez/Keppinger (Switch...or Right if it's Keppinger)

Constantly giving managers headaches with that lineup</font> :cool:

YOUR Hero

11-28-2005, 10:14 AM

Beltran in the 2 spot? I don't know about that.

Joey Slugs

11-28-2005, 01:40 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Sunday, November 27</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5908.jpg
Paul Konerko (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5908)
White Sox
</td><td>Angels (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa)
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
White Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chw)
</td><td>Sox set deadline
Nov 27 - White Sox GM Ken Williams has set a deadline regarding their efforts to re-sign free-agent first baseman Paul Konerko, according to the Chicago Tribune. "One way or another, we need closure by the [end of the] winter meetings," said Williams in a conference call with Chicago media on Friday. The winter meetings end Dec. 8.
Williams said he "will remain positive and optimistic" about re-signing Konerko, but "not so much I won't pursue other avenues [for trades] if he's not coming back."
The White Sox made the first move in trying to get Konerko back, offering him a four-year, $52 million deal, the Daily Southtown recent reported. But Konerko is intent on finding out how much he's worth on the open market.
ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick reported that Boston's front office contingent with Craig Landis, Konerko's representative.

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Ramon Hernandez (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6258)
Padres
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Diamondbacks (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=ari)?
</td><td>Matching deals
Nov 27 - The Mets offered both Hernandez and Bengie Molina free-agent contracts, according to the New York-area newspapers.They were believed to be similar three-year contracts worth $5 million to $6 million per season, an official told the Daily News. Mets GM Omar Minaya wouldn't say which catcher he preferred. Newsday reports that the Mets appear to prefer Hernandez and that the three-year deals were worth about $7 million per season.
"They're both very good catchers," Minaya said. "I don't want to get into my evaluation of the catchers. ... I am not going to [reveal] how I value these guys."
The Diamondbacks are apparently wooing Hernandez as well, according to the Arizona Republic. The Orioles, the Baltimore Suns reports, are also interested in Hernandez.

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Bengie Molina (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6026)
Angels
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
</td><td>First offer for Molina
Nov 27 - The Mets offered both Molina and Ramon Hernandez free-agent contracts, according to the New York-area newspapers.They were believed to be similar three-year contracts worth $5 million to $6 million per season, an official told the Daily News. Newsday reports that the three-year deals were worth about $7 million per season.
According to the Daily News, Molina was delighted to get the offer, said one of his representatives, Alan Nero, who also said the Mets were the first team to offer Molina a contract.

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Paul Byrd (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5468)
Angels
</td><td>Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)
</td><td>Byrd to the Birds?
Nov 27 - Sources have told the Baltimore Sun that the Orioles have offered Paul Byrd a two-year contract with an option for a third year. Byrd went 12-11 with a 3.74 ERA last season. The deal, according to sources, is believed to be worth between $10 million and $13 million.
Citing club sources, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported the Rangers plan to offer Byrd a contract as well.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6550.jpg
Juan Pierre (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6550)
Marlins
</td><td>Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>Juan to watch
Nov 27 - The Rangers are interested in outfielder Juan Pierre, reports the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Pierre, a five-year arbitration-eligible player who made $3.4 million in base salary in 2005 who can be a free agent after next season, could play left field for Texas, which already has Gary Matthews and Laynce Nix in center. And Pierre would give the Rangers a true leadoff hitter, although his OBP dropped to .326 in 2005.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5945.jpg
Carl Pavano (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5945)
Yankees
</td><td>Marlins (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=fla)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Tigers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det)?
</td><td>Yanks not shopping Pavano
Nov 27 - The New York Daily News reports that the Yankees are not shopping Carl Pavano. "We think he'll help stabilize our staff instead of taking away from it," GM Brian Cashman said.
According to the Newark Star-Ledger, Pavano has been telling friends he wants out of New York.
The right-hander, who signed a four-year, $39.95 million deal with the Yankees last offseason, is reportedly "miserable." A baseball official told the Daily News that the Tigers, who pursued Pavano as a free agent last winter, were interested in him.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6111.jpg
Octavio Dotel (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6111)
Athletics
</td><td>Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>Texas wants Dotel
Nov 27 - The Rangers are trying to sign relief pitcher Octavio Dotel, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Dotel had reconstructive elbow surgery in June while with the Oakland A's. A deal for Dotel, who is expected to be ready in April, could get done at the end of the winter meetings, the Star-Telegram reports.
However, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals have shown interest in Dotel as well. His agent, Dan Horwits, said the Cardinals have called him regarding Dotel and that Dotel's willingness to be a setup man has attracted more interest

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The Miz

11-28-2005, 01:41 PM

The A's are close to signing Esteban Loaiza. WTF?!

Joey Slugs

11-28-2005, 01:41 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Monday, November 28</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5536.jpg
Billy Wagner (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5536)
Phillies
</td><td>Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
</td><td>Wagner market expanding
Nov 28 - The Red Sox could extend an offer to Billy Wagner as soon as Monday, Newsday reports. The 34-year-old closer has already received offers from the Mets and Phillies, and the Braves may be interested as well.
According to Newsday, the Mets have offered Wagner a three-year, $30.25 million contract, with a $10 million team option for 2009 that automatically becomes vested if Wagner finishes 60 games in 2008.

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Toby Hall (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6599)
Devil Rays
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
</td><td>Study Hall
Nov 28 - In addition to negotiating with free-agent catchers Ramon Hernandez and Bengie Molina, the Mets also have been talking with the Devil Rays about acquiring Toby Hall, Newsday reports. Tampa Bay wants pitcher Aaron Heilman; the Mets have offered a package headed by second baseman Anderson Hernandez, the newspaper reports.

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Joey Gathright (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7348)
Devil Rays
</td><td> </td><td>Gathright on the market
Nov 28 - The Devil Rays' most advanced trade talks, according to the St. Petersburg Times, concern outfielder Joey Gathright. The 28-year-old center fielder reportedly has drawn interest from 10 teams, including the Dodgers, Marlins, White Sox, Cubs, Angels and Giants.

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Brian Giles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5543)
Padres
</td><td>Blue Jays (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tor)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
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Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
</td><td>Jay Giles?
Nov 28 - With the Padres now out of the picture, the Blue Jays have made "significant inroads" in their pursuit of free-agent outfielder Brian Giles, the Toronto Globe and Mail reports. According to the New York Post, Yankees GM Brian Cashman has spoken with Giles' agent, but the team has yet to make an offer.
"I have said I am interested and we talked," Cashman said. "But I am talking to everybody. We are canvassing all the free agents and trade possibilities."

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Kyle Farnsworth (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6210)
Braves
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)
Tigers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det)
Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
</td><td>Doors opening for Farnsworth
Nov 28 - B.J. Ryan's five-year, $47 million contract with Toronto was good news for Kyle Farnsworth in two respects: It increased the potential size of his next deal, and forced the Yankees, Orioles and other suitors to step up their pursuit. Barry Meister, Farnsworth's agent, told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick that phone calls from interested clubs have increased significantly since news of Ryan's deal began leaking out Saturday.
"It changes the landscape in that more teams are actively pursuing Kyle now," Meister said. "It's the law of supply and demand. There's one less player on the supply side now."
Farnsworth would consider a return to either city. Meister said Farnsworth also would be willing to accept a "super setup role" with a winning club. That could mean the Yankees, who will need someone to get the ball to Mariano Rivera if they lose Tom Gordon through free agency.

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Los Angeles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)
</td><td> </td><td>Little by Little
Nov 28 - The Dodgers have added former Boston manager Grady Little to the list of candidates for the team's vacant managing position, ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick reports. The Dodgers have yet to ask for formal permission to interview Little, who is currently working as a roving catching instructor in the Cubs' system.
Little joins Braves special assignment scout Jim Fregosi and former Tampa Bay bench coach John McLaren as a candidate for the Dodgers job.
Angels pitching coach Bud Black decided last week not to pursue the position.

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The Miz

11-28-2005, 03:37 PM

Ok it's official, Loaiza to the A's, 3 years at $7 mil per.

This could be really good or really bad. Signing Loaiza leads me to believe they will trade Zito for a big bat and that Beane isn't sold on Dan Meyer as the #5. If they trade Zito for Dunn, I'm all for it.

I hope this doesn't mean he intends on trading Saarloos for a not-quite-as-big bat or prospects. The A's are ready to contend in 06 but they need a big bat to do it. Zito is expendable, and its better to trade him now than let him walk next season and get draft picks that won't help until 09.

Also, $7 mil is way too much for this guy.

But if what I think Beane is going to do is true, this is a very good lineup:

1. Ellis 2B
2. Crosby SS
3. Kotsay CF
4. Dunn DH/RF/1B
5. Chavez 3B
6. Swisher RF/DH/1B
7. Payton LF
8. Johnson 1B/DH
9. Kendall C

1. Harden
2. Blanton
3. Haren
4. Loaiza
5. Saarloos
6. (Harden's inevitable injury) Kennedy/Meyer/Rheinecker

Calero, Duchscherer, Witasick, Flores, Garica, Street

The Miz

11-28-2005, 03:59 PM

Tike Redman traded ti the Mets for cash

OssMan

11-28-2005, 04:06 PM

YEAH TIKE REDMAN!

The Miz

11-28-2005, 04:12 PM

A cheap speed guy off the bench, what are you complaining about

The Miz

11-28-2005, 04:15 PM

File under "See: Dan Kolb"

No. BJ Ryan has been in the AL his whole career and has an ERA of 3.54. Kolb got hammered for 3 years with Texas and was all of a sudden very good in Milwaukee. And like TIOE said, look at the K's.

The Miz

11-28-2005, 04:19 PM

Jose Valentin is expected to sign with the Mets and play Marlon Anderson's role. Also Raul Mondesi wants to come back if he doesnt win mayor of San Cristobal. LOL

The Miz

11-28-2005, 04:40 PM

Ok, last thing for a while.

Ken Rosenthal reports that Billy Wagner has signed a 4 year / $43 million contract with the Mets. $10 mil per year, $10 million option for 2010/$3 million buyout

The Outlaw

11-28-2005, 04:45 PM

LOL Mondesi

OssMan

11-28-2005, 04:46 PM

Tike Redman is probably just gonna be extra bait in a trade for Manny Ramirez anyway.

Dragon

11-28-2005, 04:48 PM

Yeah, no suprise with Wagner signing. I wonder how long it's going to take for the Mets to land a big name catcher, second baseman and Manny Ramirez now.

The Outlaw

11-28-2005, 04:53 PM

So the Mets will now come in second to a bunch of 21 year olds? :)

Dragon

11-28-2005, 04:57 PM

Would be nice to see the Yankees sign an arm or two for the bullpen, depending on if Gordon re-signs or not.

I've heard all the rumors of Giles playing CF if he comes here which I still don't think will happen. Would be nice to see Sheffield at DH and Giles in RF if he does sign, but Torre always needs flexibility at DH for Giambi, Posada, etc...

An outfield of Matsui, Giles, and Sheffield would not be very pretty at all defensively.

Loose Cannon

11-28-2005, 05:00 PM

LOL, the Mets are going all out. They need to take a look at their neighbors and see how signing big names works out

RoXer

11-28-2005, 05:40 PM

It's hard to let go of Zito. :(

Evil Vito

11-28-2005, 09:43 PM

<font color=goldenrod>YESSSSS WAGNER :love:

If they can just get a catcher within a few days, Omar can spend the Winter Meetings refining the pitching staff, and looking to dump Matsui somewhere</font>

YOUR Hero

11-28-2005, 10:38 PM

The A's are close to signing Esteban Loaiza. WTF?!

He's better than his record. We've been over this. Is Zito signed trough one more or two more years?

The Miz

11-28-2005, 10:41 PM

Esteban Loaiza is a great signing as a #4 or 5 making #4 or 5 money. 3 years 21 million is not #4 or 5 money.

Zito is signed through 2006

YOUR Hero

11-28-2005, 10:46 PM

The Jays may not get Giles. They might not get AJ (Although I think they will) what's nice is seeing the Jays active again.

Joey Slugs

11-28-2005, 11:44 PM

after thinking it over...

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/2005/11/28/6dCQ8Q5O.jpg

i like that sight more & more.

DaveWadding

11-28-2005, 11:52 PM

after thinking it over...

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/images/2005/11/28/6dCQ8Q5O.jpg

i like that sight more & more.

:'(

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JIMMY :'(

Joey Slugs

11-28-2005, 11:56 PM

:'(

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO JIMMY :'(

Jim Thome & Jon Garland: The Two That Got Away

:rofl:

Joey Slugs

11-29-2005, 12:40 PM

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"> <tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3">Tuesday, November 29</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5908.jpg
Paul Konerko (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5908)
White Sox
</td><td>Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)
Angels (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa)
White Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chw)
</td><td>Angelic offering
Nov 29 - The Angels are believed to have bumped their initial four-year offer to Paul Konerko to five years and about $60 million, The Los Angeles Times reports. Konerko is expected to travel to Anaheim this week, and he could make a decision before next week's winter meetings in Dallas.
According to The Baltimore Sun, the Orioles extended a four-year, $50 million offer to Konerko about two weeks ago.

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Johnny Damon (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5484)
Red Sox
</td><td>Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)?
Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)?
</td><td>No seventh heaven
Nov 29 - Johnny Damon's agent, Scott Boras, is pushing for a seven-year commitment, but the Yankees say they aren't interested in talking about the center fielder unless the discussion revolves around a three-year deal, the New York Daily News reports. Damon is believed to be seeking about $12 million a year, the Boston Herald reports.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/4279.jpg
Tom Gordon (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4279)
Yankees
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)
Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)
</td><td>Hot Flash
Nov 29 - The Phillies have stepped up their efforts to sign Tom Gordon, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports. What is still unclear is whether they are willing to give Gordon the three-year contract he is looking for at age 38. It's believed the Phillies have an offer on the table for Gordon, but indications are that it's for less than three years. And GM Pat Gillick expressed reluctance Monday to give contracts that long to 38-year-old pitchers like Gordon and Trevor Hoffman, who have now moved to the top of the free-agent closer heap.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6210.jpg
Kyle Farnsworth (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6210)
Braves
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)
Tigers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det)
Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
</td><td>Doors opening for Farnsworth
Nov 29 - The Yankees are in serious negotiations with Kyle Farnsworth, but no offer had been made as of late Monday night, the New York Post reports. Barry Meister, Farnsworth's agent, told ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick that phone calls from interested clubs have increased significantly since news of B.J. Ryan's five-year, $47 million deal with the Blue Jays began leaking out Saturday.
"It changes the landscape in that more teams are actively pursuing Kyle now," Meister said. "It's the law of supply and demand. There's one less player on the supply side now."
Farnsworth, who had 16 saves and a 2.19 ERA with Detroit and Atlanta last season, would consider a return to either city. Meister said Farnsworth also would be willing to accept a "super setup role" with a winning club. That could mean the Yankees, who will need someone to get the ball to Mariano Rivera if they lose Tom Gordon through free agency.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5095.jpg
Brad Ausmus (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5095)
Astros
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Rockies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=col)?
Angels (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa)?
Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
Astros (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=hou)
</td><td>Ausmus exploring options
Nov 29 - The Astros have exchanged offers with catcher Brad Ausmus, the Houston Chronicle reports. "We talked a couple of times on numbers, and we certainly don't have an insurmountable gap between us," Ausmus told the newspaper. Ausmus would like to return for an eighth season with the Astros or play for the Padres. "Certainly San Diego and Houston are my two favorites, no question," Ausmus said. "But I'm going to listen to everything, and I might listen to things in the Southern California area. I'm not really narrowing anything down right now."
Ausmus, 36, wants a more lucrative deal than the two-year, $4 million contract he signed in November 2003, according to ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6404.jpg
Rafael Furcal (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6404)
Braves
</td><td>Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)
Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)
</td><td>Cubs or Braves?
Nov 29 - Cubs GM Jim Hendry met with shortstop Rafael Furcal at his Georgia home on Sunday, The Chicago Tribune reports. With the Cubs and Braves likely making similar final offers (four or five years for around $10 million per season), Furcal's decision may ultimately come down to where he feels most comfortable playing, the newspaper reports.
A decision is expected by the end of next week's winter meetings.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/6394.jpg
Barry Zito (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6394)
Athletics
</td><td> </td><td>Zito for a slugger?
Nov 29 - The signing of free-agent starter Esteban Loaiza could spell the end of Barry Zito's days in an A's uniform, given the team's need for a right-handed slugger, The San Francisco Chronicle reports. But GM Billy Beane cautioned reporters not to jump to conclusions. "I wouldn't necessarily read into it that it's a precursor to anything coming down the pike," Beane told the newspaper.
Zito will be a free agent after next season.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/4975.jpg
Trevor Hoffman (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4975)
Padres
</td><td>Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)
Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)
</td><td>Save situation
Nov 29 - Trevor Hoffman and the Padres likely will resume talks within the next 10 days, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. In October, the Padres offered Hoffman two years for $10 million; Hoffman countered with a three-year deal worth $25 million to $27 million, according to the newspaper.
Cleveland, Atlanta and Boston also have shown interest.

</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td width="65">WHO</td><td>INTERESTED</td><td>THE SKINNY</td></tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"><td align="center" nowrap="nowrap">http://espn.go.com/i/mlb/profiles/players/5947.jpg
Javier Vazquez (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5947)
Diamondbacks
</td><td>Nationals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=was)
</td><td>Capital position?
Nov 29 - Washington's trade talks with Arizona about right-hander Javier Vazquez are "very much alive," a Nationals team source told The Washington Post. Vazquez has requested a trade from the Diamondbacks in hopes of getting closer to his home in Puerto Rico. He has two years and $24 million remaining on a four-year, $45 million deal.

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John Mabry (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5215)
Cardinals
</td><td>Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)
</td><td>Mabry deal likely
Nov 29 - The Cubs are set to sign utility player John Mabry, the Chicago Sun-Times reports. The deal is expected to be completed after Mabry passes a physical.
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BCWWF

11-29-2005, 02:56 PM

It's so frustrating to look at those over and over again and never see the Twins.

DaveWadding

11-29-2005, 03:19 PM

Jim Thome & Jon Garland: The Two That Got Away

:rofl:

I could be fucked less with Jon Garland. You can keep him.

Joey Slugs

11-29-2005, 07:33 PM

I could be fucked less with Jon Garland. You can keep him.

When he ends up with a better career than that of Wood & Prior, I'll remind you of that comment.

Joey Slugs

11-29-2005, 07:36 PM

It's so frustrating to look at those over and over again and never see the Twins.

Seems like they are backing off this year. Instead of Twins/Sox, we now get Tribe/Sox.

Doesn't matter how good or bad the teams are, the Twins/Sox games should be shown as what it is: one of the best rivalries in sports.

The Miz

11-29-2005, 10:47 PM

Farnsworth to the Yanks, 3 years 17 mil

Dragon

11-29-2005, 10:56 PM

Where did you find that? Didn't see it on mlb.com or the yankees site.

If that happens I'm guessing Gordon is as good as gone. Heard Farnsworth was a real headcase so I'm not sure how much of an upgrade if any he is over Gordon. Gordon always sucked in the postseason for us, but he was always solid during the regular season.

Joey Slugs

11-29-2005, 11:22 PM

Farnsworth to the Yanks, 3 years 17 mil

No news of it yet, I'll believe it when I see it.

Dragon

11-29-2005, 11:27 PM

Seems like quite a small contract compared to what he could get with the ridiculous contracts of Wagner and Ryan.

Joey Slugs

11-30-2005, 01:17 AM

ALCS MVP Paul Konerko rejected the Orioles' latest contract offer, a five-year deal worth $65 million, the Baltimore Sun reported on its Web site late Tuesday night.

According to the Sun, the Orioles are believed to have made the most lucrative offer to Konerko.

The Angels, who along with the Orioles and the White Sox are believed to be the only three teams in the hunt for Konerko, have reportedly offered a five-year deal worth $60 million. Konerko spent Tuesday afternoon in Anaheim meeting with Angels officials, including manager Mike Scioscia and general manager Bill Stoneman, the Los Angeles Times is reporting in its Wednesday editions.

Craig Landis, Konerko's agent, could not be reached for comment. Orioles executive vice president Mike Flanagan declined to discuss any specifics of the Orioles' negotiations with Konerko, acknowledging only that the club is still in ongoing talks with Konerko and several other free agents.

I hope to god that the sox upped their offer. We should find out by the start of the WM next week.

VonErich Lives

11-30-2005, 02:15 PM

Konnerko to the White Sox. 5yrs 60million w/ a no trade.

might just be a rumor, didn't hear if it was "official" or not.

I love how players/agents are using other teams to get what they want.

Wagners agent pushed a false Red Sox rumor to get more money from the Mets.

Konnerko got bids from Baltimore and Anehiem.

Joey Slugs

11-30-2005, 02:22 PM

It's official (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2242424)

5yr/$60 Million

Joey Slugs

11-30-2005, 02:28 PM

Barry Bonds plans to play for the U.S. team in the World Baseball Classic in March. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2241953)

Joey Slugs

11-30-2005, 02:30 PM

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Brian Giles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5543)
Padres
</td><td>Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)?
Blue Jays (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tor)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
Cardinals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=stl)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Mariners (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sea)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
</td><td>Padres back on Giles?
Nov 30 - Maybe Brian Giles hasn't traveled all the way down the exit ramp in San Diego after all. Giles' agent, Joe Bick, told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark that Padres GM Kevin Towers called him about Giles on Tuesday, just to re-express interest. But Bick said that "at this point, I don't know if they want to be serious about this or not. Kevin obviously would like him back. But we're not going to leave tons of money lying on the table." The Padres offered Giles a three-year deal for $25.5 million (an average of $8.5 million a year). But while Bick refuses to discuss individual offers, it's clear Giles is going to get more than three years.
"At one time, we were talking about three years," Bick said. "But there are some other options out there now beyond that."

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Paul Byrd (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5468)
Angels
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Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)
</td><td>Byrd joining Baltimore flock?
Nov 30 - The Orioles have offered right-hander Paul Byrd a two-year, $13 million contract with an option for a third year, The Baltimore Sun reports. Byrd reportedly is interested in reuniting with pitching coach Leo Mazzone. According to The Cleveland Plain Dealer, Byrd visited the Indians earlier this week.

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Kyle Farnsworth (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6210)
Braves
</td><td>Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)?
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)?
Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)
Tigers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=det)
Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)
Yankees (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy)
</td><td>Farns-worth at least $12M
Nov 30 - They Yankees on Tuesday night were moving close to signing hard-throwing reliever Kyle Farnsworth, the New York Daily News reports. The Yanks reportedly were pitching a three-year deal worth $12 million to $15 million. The Braves, according to the newspaper, still have interest, but they aren't likely to meet the expected price.

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Rafael Furcal (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6404)
Braves
</td><td>Dodgers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=lad)
Braves (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=atl)
Cubs (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=chc)
</td><td>Batting leadoff and playing shortstop ...
Nov 30 - Rafael Furcal is leaning toward signing with the Cubs, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. Chicago's five-year offer for Furcal reportedly was significantly greater than Atlanta's in both dollars and contract length. According to ESPN.com's Jayson Stark, Furcal and his agents have quietly spent the week meeting personally with the Cubs and Braves. And a meeting with Dodgers GM Ned Colletti was scheduled for Tuesday night.
"I would expect he'll make his decision in the next few days, just out of respect for the teams involved," Paul Kinzer, Furcal's primary agent, said.

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Tom Gordon (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4279)
Yankees
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Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)
Phillies (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=phi)
Indians (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=cle)
Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)
</td><td>Hot Flash
Nov 30 - Yankees GM Brian Cashman spoke with Tom Gordon's agent again Tuesday, Newsday reports. Gordon still wants three years, but the Yanks remain firm at two. The New York Daily News, however, remains more optimistic about the Yanks re-signing Gordon for two years for closer-like money. According to ESPN.com's Jayson Stark, the Phillies have stepped up their efforts to sign Gordon. It's believed the Phillies have an offer on the table for Gordon, but indications are that it's for less than three years.

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Jacque Jones (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6246)
Twins
</td><td>Twins (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=min)?
Padres (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=sdg)
</td><td>Keeping up with Jones
Nov 30 - At least five teams are interested in Jacque Jones, but the outfielder likely won't sign with anyone until Brian Giles comes off the market, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports. The Twins still have a slim chance of re-signing Jones.

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Mark Grudzielanek (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5359)
Cardinals
</td><td>Royals (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=kan)?
Mets (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nym)?
Red Sox (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bos)?
Rangers (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=tex)?
</td><td>The next Met
Nov 30 - The Cardinals likely will have another position to fill. Second baseman Mark Grudzielanek has received offers from several clubs, and the Mets are the leading contender, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.
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Nomar Garciaparra (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5706)
Cubs
</td><td>Orioles (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=bal)?
</td><td>Where? And what position?
Nov 30 - The Cleveland Plain Dealer floats Nomar Garciaparra's name in the Indians' search for a right-handed hitter. The Twins had expressed interest in Garciaparra as a third baseman, but it appears the club may go with Terry Tiffee at the hot corner next year, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports.
Earlier this month the Orioles said they might be interested, but only if he's willing to play either first base or the outfield.

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