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GODSON
11-16-2005, 11:15 AM
Morphoplex, TNA's main sponsor, is currently paying $200,000 a month to sponsor their shows. YEAH BABY!!! The company keeps growing. Last year they were paying $30,000 per week for a tv show. Now they don't have to pay a dime for tv and getting $200,000 per month from a sponsor. That's a big step up. Don't forget their DVD's is selling out in stores. The ratings might not be great but everything else is looking positive.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 11:16 AM
What's it a step up from? What were the previous figures? Do you have a link to an actual report on either?

Sadistic
11-16-2005, 11:19 AM
Good news for TNA.

McLegend
11-16-2005, 11:20 AM
That one ex-football player who is in those adds sounds exactly like Hulk Hogan. EXACTLY

GODSON
11-16-2005, 11:35 AM
What's it a step up from? What were the previous figures? Do you have a link to an actual report on either?

I got it from "GERWECK.net" that got it from the "WRESTLING OBSERVER".

In 2004, TNA did weekly ppvs that cost alot of money and was losing money. They paid FSN $30,000 per week(or month,forgot) for a bad timeslot.

In 2005, have a free tv show on Spike in a better slot. The ratings is much better compare to FSN ratings. Video game deal with a major video game company. DVD's in major retails and selling well, I think they had 3 dvds in the top 25 on Billboards,one in the top 10. Morphoplex paying them $200,000 per month. It seems like a step up too me.

PullMyFinger
11-16-2005, 12:52 PM
Well, of course, it's definitely good news for TNA and it is a step up. However, that doesn't automatically mean TNA is on the green, they still need to get their shit together.

GODSON
11-16-2005, 12:55 PM
Well, of course, it's definitely good news for TNA and it is a step up. However, that doesn't automatically mean TNA is on the green, they still need to get their shit together.

They almost there which is good news considering TNA past debt.

PullMyFinger
11-16-2005, 12:57 PM
Not green money wise...I mean, the company as a whole being on the green and successful.

Hopefully with Christian, there will be more talking segments in the ring, and better storylines. WWE overdoes it, but you still need to have the talking and entertainment factor...I haven't read the spoilers...but from the past few weeks TNA was lacking that. It was mostly all wrestling with little talking...just guy in tights A vs. guy in tights B...and supposedly the casual fan was supposed to get into it.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 01:45 PM
I got it from "GERWECK.net" that got it from the "WRESTLING OBSERVER".

In 2004, TNA did weekly ppvs that cost alot of money and was losing money. They paid FSN $30,000 per week(or month,forgot) for a bad timeslot.

In 2005, have a free tv show on Spike in a better slot. The ratings is much better compare to FSN ratings. Video game deal with a major video game company. DVD's in major retails and selling well, I think they had 3 dvds in the top 25 on Billboards,one in the top 10. Morphoplex paying them $200,000 per month. It seems like a step up too me.

Didn't find anything on it in the Wrestling Observer. Good job at backing up your sources.

It's good news if it's true, despite their shit ratings, but I'd like some real evidence.

CharismaInjection
11-16-2005, 01:48 PM
Well I gotta be honest, actual wrestling is second to me. The first thing I like is the entertainment factor. I loved backstage segments, I loved Christian on the mic. They told a story.

When TNA says 'Less Talking, More Action' It's actually putting me off TNA.

The One
11-16-2005, 02:31 PM
Didn't find anything on it in the Wrestling Observer. Good job at backing up your sources.

It's good news if it's true, despite their shit ratings, but I'd like some real evidence.

As far as the $200,000 a month goes, you can get that off of TNAWrestlingNews.com which I have found over recent months to be quite reliable.

As for the money issue, yeah they are in a much better possition then they were a year ago, but that isn't saying much. A little over a year ago the were dangerously close to shutting down. This is fairly common knowledge. The deal with FSN was shakey and their buyrates where terrible. Now, does this mean they have made a step in the right direction? Yes. But let's not all think Monday Night War pt. 2 is coming because of it. Had they NOT made a step in the right direction they would be gone right now. I hope they continue to move forward and progress. I believe in Dixie Carter alot. She is actually quite smart and isn't listening to a lot of the fucking dipshits. On the business side of things she is doing things just right. Like I said here's hoping they continue to have furthering success. I say this as someone who has watched their program from the very first show over three years ago on their shitty weekly PPV slot. I love TNA, but don't start making it out to be mroe then what it is.

Nervous Ferret
11-16-2005, 02:35 PM
Good. I'm happy for them. :)

Nervous Ferret
11-16-2005, 02:35 PM
But there ratings still suck, which cannot penetrate through your tiny TNA fanboy mind.

The One
11-16-2005, 02:39 PM
Oh and by the by, morphoplex is their MAIN sponser, meaning they pay the most. And we know that Panda Energy is still somewhere in there. So let's say they both pay out $200,000 a month. That's $400,000 a month total. After costs of paying for talent, air travel, etc....that's not exactly what I would call "mad money"...more...barley being able to pay of JUST the wrestling talent.

Mr. Nerfect
11-16-2005, 03:17 PM
I think TNA really need more time to run their shows. I think two hours a week, at least. You can't really have solid storylines built-up, and have good matches, and showcase a lot of your talent on the same card.

The One
11-16-2005, 03:26 PM
I think TNA needs to actually make storylines that have some logic behind them before we give them more time to develop storylines. Hell I love the attitude of "Wrestling Comes First" but a good match with a purpose is nothing better then a good build up without a match...(please see: I Still Remember)

You need some dinner before you get desert. The in ring stuff that TNA is doing has been alot of candy, but we have nothing else. Clusterfucks of run ins...Jarrett having half the roster swinging from his nuts, no real clear cut heel or face (other then Styles and Jarrett), and all too predictable match outcomes. And don't even get me started on the fact that TNA's storylines lead abso-fucking-lutly nowhere.

PullMyFinger
11-16-2005, 03:33 PM
I agree with everything The One said. I would want nothing more than TNA surviving to become the biggest company out there since WCW...and Dixie is definitely not a moron. She's taking things quite nice and slow.

Also, their video game .. when its out...should bring in great revenue for them.

The Gooch
11-16-2005, 03:38 PM
I'm just hoping they will end up in a better timeslot. I caught TNA on Spike for the first time last weekend and things definitely have improved from the last time I watched them. I still could not make heads or tails of who was face/heel and why certain things were happening even though I try to read up on what is going on through TPWW. I agree with One, a clear direction seems to be needed and stories need to created to make reasons to have the matches.

Chavo Classic
11-16-2005, 03:49 PM
More money = more Christians

:y:

Nervous Ferret
11-16-2005, 03:51 PM
I said Jonny watcha doing tonite
He looked at me with a faceful of fright
I said how 'bout, a Revolutionnnnnnn
and he said right

The One
11-16-2005, 04:06 PM
More money = more Christians

:y:

Wait...is TNA fulls of Jews right now? :shifty:

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 04:48 PM
As far as the $200,000 a month goes, you can get that off of TNAWrestlingNews.com which I have found over recent months to be quite reliable.

As for the money issue, yeah they are in a much better possition then they were a year ago, but that isn't saying much. A little over a year ago the were dangerously close to shutting down. This is fairly common knowledge. The deal with FSN was shakey and their buyrates where terrible. Now, does this mean they have made a step in the right direction? Yes. But let's not all think Monday Night War pt. 2 is coming because of it. Had they NOT made a step in the right direction they would be gone right now. I hope they continue to move forward and progress. I believe in Dixie Carter alot. She is actually quite smart and isn't listening to a lot of the fucking dipshits. On the business side of things she is doing things just right. Like I said here's hoping they continue to have furthering success. I say this as someone who has watched their program from the very first show over three years ago on their shitty weekly PPV slot. I love TNA, but don't start making it out to be mroe then what it is.

Thanks for doing what Godson was incapable of doing.

And yeah, "Not about todie," not saying much,.

Pete
11-16-2005, 06:15 PM
people on here just love chugging down that haterade don't they? TNA has been on tv for all of what? two months now? and everybody expects them to be fucking perfect! Whats all this stuff about shit ratings? I thought Spike was happy with the ratings they'd been getting? Especially considering the timeslot.

Everyone complains about how stale the WWE is and then when something different comes along you all tear it down. How about supporting TNA and waiting and seeing if they get their shit together instead of being so fucking negative

Sadistic
11-16-2005, 06:57 PM
Everyone complains about how stale the WWE is and then when something different comes along you all tear it down. How about supporting TNA and waiting and seeing if they get their shit together instead of being so fucking negative
I agree totally. TNA offers something different (i.e. good wrestling matches) and then all of a sudden WWE is "amazing" and TNA sucks and TNA should be more like WWE. :nono:

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 06:57 PM
people on here just love chugging down that haterade don't they? TNA has been on tv for all of what? two months now? and everybody expects them to be fucking perfect! Whats all this stuff about shit ratings? I thought Spike was happy with the ratings they'd been getting? Especially considering the timeslot.

Everyone complains about how stale the WWE is and then when something different comes along you all tear it down. How about supporting TNA and waiting and seeing if they get their shit together instead of being so fucking negative

Slow down, skippy.

1. TNA's been on longer than two months. I seem to recall them having another TV deal...

2. Shit ratings. Their last show was an all-time low for them, after what was considered a "failure" on their prime time special(Anything lower than 1 was going to be considered a failure). Naw. Those aren't bad ratings, and Spike's happy with their direction.

3. I supported TNA when it was doing weekly PPVs. I watched it on FSN, I watched it on Spike. I'm yet to see the step up their game. They're not really stepping up, and while it's too early to tell whether the ratings are a trend, it's not indicitive of success.

4. When something different is also stale, reminiscent of a watered-down WCW, and actually tedious to watch, people are going to complain. We want a fucking alternative to the WWE, and if TNA can't actually provide something quality enough to be considered an alternative, they deserve to go down.

Take off the rose colored glasses. The reason people are complaining is that they've been giving TNA a chance since its inception, and they have been let down time and time and time again.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 06:59 PM
I agree totally. TNA offers something different (i.e. good wrestling matches) and then all of a sudden WWE is "amazing" and TNA sucks and TNA should be more like WWE. :nono:

:lol:

Sad that you had to pull that "amazing" line out of your ass.

They offer something different. Yeah, vanilla spotfests and shite booking. We've never seen either of thos things before. :)

Sadistic
11-16-2005, 07:03 PM
The only people that have been "let down" are the morons like you who want every fed to be a copy of WWE. "TNA needs more storylines because WWE does it, TNA needs more gimmicks etc. "
Jesus, why can't TNA do something different? What about fans thatdon't want storylines, they want to see good, fast paced wrestling matches, TNA is for those fans.
If you're not one of those fans, then fuck off and watch Cena win the raw main event every week in some sort of 2/3 on 1 situation.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:08 PM
The only people that have been "let down" are the morons like you who want every fed to be a copy of WWE.

If I want every federation to be like the WWE, why am I not watching Raw? Before you made up this fantasy tale you tell yourself, did it occur to you that someone might actually not enjoy the TNA product on its own merits, rather than because they're comparing it to a subpar product?

God, it must be hard to make up fairy tales everytime something doesn't go your way. Poor baby.

Sadistic
11-16-2005, 07:11 PM
You start bashing TNA every chance you get as if it gives you some sort of joy however not once have I seen you talk shit about WWE. Maybe you do but I certainly don't see it in these threads.
You're pratically defending WWE everytime there's a WWE/TNA thread.

Stop defending a product you don't even watch old man.

Chavo Classic
11-16-2005, 07:17 PM
More money = more Christians

:y:

Wait...is TNA fulls of Jews right now? :shifty:

:eek: TNA in anti-semetic shocker! :eek:

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:20 PM
You start bashing TNA every chance you get as if it gives you some sort of joy however not once have I seen you talk shit about WWE. Maybe you do but I certainly don't see it in these threads.
You're pratically defending WWE everytime there's a WWE/TNA thread.

Stop defending a product you don't even watch old man.

LOL I'm practically defending. :roll:

You are sad beyond words, little boy.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:25 PM
Keep in mind, you're almost always the one who brings up the TNA/WWE comparison. You're the one who always asks the question "And John Cena/the WWE is better?" It's pretty much the only way to guarantee the WWE even comes up when mentioning the problems with TNA.

Johnny Vegas
11-16-2005, 07:30 PM
lol @ Kane Knight always getting into <s>arguments</s> debates with newbies...oh yea, when does TNA come on? Friday or Sat.?

McLegend
11-16-2005, 07:32 PM
Saturday

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:36 PM
Vegas is still alive? Damn.

Sadistic
11-16-2005, 07:38 PM
lol @ Kane Knight always getting into <s>arguments</s> debates with newbies..
That's what he lives for. By the way KK why won't you tell me what age you are? My bet would be on 31.

Chavo Classic
11-16-2005, 07:40 PM
That's what he lives for. By the way KK why won't you tell me what age you are? My bet would be on 31.

Why is that important? Go to the casual section to satisfy those kind of voyeuristic obsessions you weirdo

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:41 PM
So I take it you've admitted defeat?

I mean, if you're resorting to age, you must have realised just how pathetic your argument really is.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:42 PM
Shit. I take that back. You'll never realise how stupid your arguments are, you jsut can't really argue back.

Sadistic
11-16-2005, 07:46 PM
I'm done arguing with a 30 year old. Don't think this is the first message board I've ever been to. I know how this works. What's the point in arguing with you when your 75000 post count has everyone here kissing your ass.
Your arguments are weak in my opinion. But the worst part is that you seem to be just looking for an argument. I like TNA, you don't like TNA or WWE so why the fuck are you arguing with me? Get the fuck out and stop defending a promotion you don't actually watch.
A few mewbies joined today, why don't you start an argument with one of them until they kiss your ass and become another one of your followers.
I'm done with this shit.

Chavo Classic
11-16-2005, 07:49 PM
I'm done arguing with a 30 year old. Don't think this is the first message board I've ever been to. I know how this works. What's the point in arguing with you when your 75000 post count has everyone here kissing your ass.
Your arguments are weak in my opinion. But the worst part is that you seem to be just looking for an argument. I like TNA, you don't like TNA or WWE so why the fuck are you arguing with me? Get the fuck out and stop defending a promotion you don't actually watch.
A few mewbies joined today, why don't you start an argument with one of them until they kiss your ass and become another one of your followers.
I'm done with this shit.


Is Sadistic channeling one of CM Punk's famous "I'm done with..." speeches?

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:51 PM
I'm done arguing with a 30 year old.

I'm sorry we can't all be 12.

You're done arguing because you don't have an argument. You can rant, whine, and cry all you want, but your argument was shit, and now you have to hide behind the "30 year old" argument.

Man, grow a set.

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 07:52 PM
When exactly DO I defend the WWE? :?: I keep hearing Sadistic make these claims, but...

Chavo Classic
11-16-2005, 07:53 PM
In the spirit of inappropriate and irrelevant questions....

Have you ever touched a girl's boobs, Sadistic?

Funky Fly
11-16-2005, 08:03 PM
I know how old KK is. :naughty:

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 08:04 PM
In the spirit of inappropriate and irrelevant questions....

Have you ever touched a girl's boobs, Sadistic?

Girls his age don't have boobs. :meh:

PullMyFinger
11-16-2005, 08:06 PM
Sadistic, you're a fucking moron.

The amount of people in the US that want to see just wrestling with minimal storyline is a small minority....like 0001%.

The difference between you and KK is that while you're selfish and want TNA for your own indy style mind regardless of the outcome, he wants what's best OVERALL for TNA when it comes to money, success, etc regardless if its what he prefers or doesn't.

So now tell me, who's the moron exactly? (before you say something stupid like "it's KK!"...its you LOL)

Kane Knight
11-16-2005, 08:06 PM
I know how old KK is. :naughty:

I've been meaning to mention that. It's not polite to card before sex, especially if you're asking for multiple forms of ID.

Funky Fly
11-16-2005, 08:19 PM
Sorry, no minors. Partly because of the unwanted association with a certain pedo poster who shall remain nameless and partly because young girls like yourself tend to get ripped wide open when I'm around. :shifty:

PureHatred
11-16-2005, 09:14 PM
Maybe the reason that everyone shits on sadistic's arguments is that he's a CZW loving retard.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 12:01 AM
Sorry, no minors. Partly because of the unwanted association with a certain pedo poster who shall remain nameless and partly because young girls like yourself tend to get ripped wide open when I'm around. :shifty:

Hey, I can't help it. It's been a while. I was nervous.

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 12:14 AM
Maybe the reason that everyone shits on sadistic's arguments is that he's a CZW loving retard.

IT's not even that. Sadistic is such a total spazz it's funny.

He's not just pro-CZW, he's pro- anything but the WWE. He thinks all the indies are great (Truth is, 90% of the promotions out there are shit), and are always better than the WWE. He insists that anyone who's seen any indies would know of this superiority, and that if someone watches TNA once, they will come back again and again.

Basically, he's one of those mindless Anti-WWE drones. If you don't agree with his assessments, you are defending the WWE and think Cena/JBL main eventing equals greatness. TNA is God because it's not the WWE. CZW is awesome wrestling (Even though it's largely not, and Sadistic admits this), and deathmatches are great storytelling.

Pinnacle Charisma
11-17-2005, 05:18 AM
Why is the money mad??

Chavo Classic
11-17-2005, 05:19 AM
Because it can't decide whether it's a ten or twenty dollar bill. IT'S CRRRRAZY!

Kane Knight
11-17-2005, 09:36 AM
It's probably how much profit they're pulling in, CC.

The One
11-17-2005, 07:14 PM
Jesus, why can't TNA do something different? What about fans thatdon't want storylines, they want to see good, fast paced wrestling matches, TNA is for those fans.
If you're not one of those fans, then fuck off and watch Cena win the raw main event every week in some sort of 2/3 on 1 situation.

God that pained me to read. I never liked you, and honestly I thought you were a bit of a CZW mark, which in it of itself is an insult in my mind, but I at least thought you had some level of respect for Professional Wrestling. After reading that, I realise that you sir have just as little respect for wrestling as the fucking retarded 12 year old holding up a "Chain Gang" sign as they sit in awe at some RAW show. You are a fucker wanker who loves only violence, though isn't man enough to actually find it in your own life. Not that finding violence makes a man, but at least they have balls or fear enough to welcome it in. You are nothing more then a lost boy seeking some sort of fix for your misplaced testosterone. I am appalled at your presence here from this moment forward.

Your blindness sees nothing but two things. Pain and Gimmicks. In your little mind and sad world, the art of wrestling is nothing more then those two. Now you might be asking why I am elected to get on your ass about this. What the fuck should I care what you enjoy and don't enjoy. I hate you because you are the source of the problem with pro wrestling to the rest of the world. To the rest of the world Professional Wrestling is nothing more then violence and weird unrealistic gimmicks. And when someone like you poses as a actual wrestling fan you totally kill any chance those of us who can see the artistic side of it have and truly allowing others to understand. Again why should I give a flying fuck what someone like you does? Because I have injuries that will NEVER heal due to what I gave to this art. I have pain that will NEVER go away. For the rest of my life I have the scares of this industry, and I carry them with honor knowing that what I did was a small part of a much larger world that I loved. I gave my body to this art for an audience of 500 (or however large IWF or RMCW's shows got....not the point here). Now no one who attended those shows can recall my name, I never got a big pay check for my work, and honestly I didn't make jack shit of a difference...but at least I did what I did because I had respect for those 500 people who came to see me perform. I gave myself, and don't regret it one bit, because up until now I thought they, those 500, were the smart ones who saw just what everything meant to me. Knowing your history of defending every indie show ever I can only assume you attend them...which means your worthless ass could have been sitting in the audience any night I was out there...you could have been one of those people I gave my body for...out of respect...realising now you have no more respect for it then a child who thinks that since daddy says it's fake, nobody gets hurt, I hate you. Maybe I hate myself for thinking that once you crossed the line of seeing past the gimmicks and storylines, you understood and respected this art...and realising now that once you cross that line all you do is enter a whole new world of mistake and idiocy.

Your blantent statement that there are two kinds of wrestling is nothing more then what the rest of the world says about this misunderstood art form. I don't know what you think you know about wrestling, or what you think makes you an insider...but rest assured that every wrestler I know would spit in your face and probably toss your ass around like a vollyball for thinking that AND having the nerve to actually call yourself a wrestling fan. You sir, are no wrestling fan. Do me a favor, never show your face around here again, never call yourself a fan, go buy some "Bum Fight" DVD and walk away from this forever. The Wrestlers, Promotoers, and real fans of Professional Wrestling, will thank you for doing that.

Now fuck off.

Destor
11-17-2005, 07:31 PM
I just read this thread and, lol. Sadistic says KK never bashes the E, lol. The One owned all. And I have nothing to add to the exercise of comedic genius that is this thread.

Sadistic
11-18-2005, 05:18 AM
I don't actually understand what the One is trying to get accross?

Are you saying you respect people that go out and scar themselves for a small crowd?
What the fuck are you on about "art". I prefer wrestling matches over storylines. What the fuck does that have to do with "art"? Surely Benoit vs. Angle in a 30 minute epic is more of an "art" then Mark Henry and May Young in some storyline skit.

Funky Fly
11-18-2005, 05:31 AM
I don't actually understand what the One is trying to get accross?

Are you saying you respect people that go out and scar themselves for a small crowd?
What the fuck are you on about "art". I prefer wrestling matches over storylines. What the fuck does that have to do with "art"? Surely Benoit vs. Angle in a 30 minute epic is more of an "art" then Mark Henry and May Young in some storyline skit.
I think what he means is Angle vs Benoit in a 30 minute epic is more of an art than a couple of crumbums smashing each other with lightbulbs, wheelchairs and potted plants and then falling off a building.

Sadistic
11-18-2005, 05:32 AM
Angle vs Benoit in a 30 minute epic is more of an art than a couple of crumbums smashing each other with lightbulbs, wheelchairs and potted plants and then falling off a building.
Coudln't agree more.

alvarado52
11-18-2005, 02:21 PM
THEY SHOOTIN'...........aw made you look.

Destor
11-18-2005, 03:04 PM
LOL, Sadistic doesn't get. I'm shocked.

Joey Slugs
11-18-2005, 03:20 PM
vBulletin Message <!-- main error message --> You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The One again.

Kane Knight
11-18-2005, 04:04 PM
LOL, Sadistic doesn't get. I'm shocked.

Sadistic missing the point is like a blind man not seeing the headlines on CNN.