That... was fucked up.... (spoilers bound to occur)

[Corkscrewed]

As I mentioned in the Chat, that was the most fucked up Royal Rumble ever.

It's like they decided to trip on LSD then write the PPV.




Rey winning after no credible buildup. Cena on a space ship. Taker coming out to implode the ring at the end. Shane eliminating HBK. Helms winning the CW title despite currently being on RAW. JBL jobbing in five seconds (which means he's in for another year long reign; remember RR 2004, when he was the first eliminated?).

So what the hell do you think they have planned for the Road to Wrestlemania? Discuss possible future angles here.

[Danny Electric]

Helms versus Coach for the cruiserweight belt every week on Heat.

[The Greater Power]

They will do Angle/Taker at No Way Out and Rey/Orton at NWO

[D Mac]

Yep. This was the worst fucking rumble ever.

[Danny Electric]

Oh and Tatanka will be champ because we all know that he was screwed over by fucking Ludvig Borga.

[D Mac]

Triple Threat Angle/Rey/Orton?

[Corkscrewed]

Yeah, I suppose Orton will challege Rey for his #1 contendership at NWO... settingup all of five weeks to build up the Wrestlemania main event.

That's planning for ya... :nono:

[Danny Electric]

Next week we see the return of Lex Luger and Money Inc.
You know it makes sense, because what we all really want to know is...who really sold out?

[The Heat]

It sounds like RR sucked.

Although I'm glad with the outcome of Mysterio winning. Face it, Mysterio can do it all in the ring. He is a major star on SmackDown in a time of no stars. I'm sure WWE will change it before Mania though, and make Orton the #1 contender......

Sounded like a waste of $40.00 and time as well. Seriously, I've ordered Wrestlemania's since 2000. I might not order this year, if the current WWE product doesn't improve.

[Skippord]

I'd buy Mania if they had this match anywhere on the card

RVD Vs Edge Vs HHH Vs Cena for the WWE title

[Danny Electric]

I agree

[Savio]

even if it was on heat?

[Danny Electric]

I AGREE

[Corkscrewed]

What irked me about the Rumble match was that two of the final three, Orton and Rey, had clean, weak losses on the SmackDOWN before. Orton taps to Benoit but is second to last to be eliminated. Okay... that's a little odd, but not a huge problem. But Rey was made to just look pathetic against Henry, but suddenly he goes the distance and wins the Rumble? Just seems odd.

He deserves it, but they better build him up big time over the next few months. Even if they take the title shot away from him.

[Danny Electric]

Orton will be at wrestlemania.

[Blitz]

I'm glad Rey won the Rumble, but there's no way he's making it to Mania.

[Skippord]

I would've been glader if RVD won

[Savio]

DE trying to get every last post

[Danny Electric]

Me, never ;)

[D Mac]

I would be gladder if Finlay was in it and won. Because he is a tough Irish Bas...

Never Mind. :shifty:

[Dorkchop]

I think the WWE decide to have Rey win so they can have the "No one believed in me. I didn't even belive in me. The only person who believed in me was Eddie." and He'll say 'believe' 12 more times in each promo.

I mean it's a true underdog story that the WWE is trying to do. It's actually pretty cool on paper. Whether or not it's booked well, I don't know. I just hope they don't throw Eddie's name around too much for this.

[Jaded-Dragon]

As I mentioned in the Chat, that was the most fucked up Royal Rumble ever.

It's like they decided to trip on LSD then write the PPV.




Rey winning after no credible buildup. Cena on a space ship. Taker coming out to implode the ring at the end. Shane eliminating HBK. Helms winning the CW title despite currently being on RAW. JBL jobbing in five seconds (which means he's in for another year long reign; remember RR 2004, when he was the first eliminated?).

So what the hell do you think they have planned for the Road to Wrestlemania? Discuss possible future angles here.


I don't mind no credible build up to win a Rumble. IMO the ones with the build up are too predictable (see 2000 Rumble).

What I do find funny is thinking back to the 96 RR where Vader hopped in the ring after being eliminated and tossed Michaels out, which didn't count. Yet the Shane O' Mac interference counts as a valid elimination. My girfriend asked the question of "He wasn't in the match so it doesn't count right?", I said it shouldn't, but I guess it counts when they need it to.

[D Mac]

I don't mind no credible build up to win a Rumble. IMO the ones with the build up are too predictable (see 2000 Rumble).

What I do find funny is thinking back to the 96 RR where Vader hopped in the ring after being eliminated and tossed Michaels out, which didn't count. Yet the Shane O' Mac interference counts as a valid elimination. My girfriend asked the question of "He wasn't in the match so it doesn't count right?", I said it shouldn't, but I guess it counts when they need it to.

sad but true

[Fox]

I think that was the point of Mysterio's loss to Henry on Smackdown - to make it seem like he couldn't win the Royal Rumble.

Let's think about it. Was anybody "built" to win the Rumble this year? Last year it was Batista, the year before it was Benoit, the year before that it was Lesnar. This year there wasn't anyone: the biggest hint we ever got was Rey's dedication of his Rumble match to Eddie Guerrero. So it makes sense that he won.

I don't see how they could take Mysterio out of the WrestleMania title match after tonight. Even if it is just a storyline, an angle to remove Rey from his well-earned and rightful spot in the main event of WM 22 would be unfair and atrocious considering what he's gone through in the past few months. After the countless five star matches he's given to the wrestling industry in his career, the fact that he's perservered in an industry where anyone below 6 foot doesn't make it past HEAT, Mysterio deserves that spot more than anyone.

I could see Rey/Angle/Orton at Mania, or even Rey/UT, although that would be a far subpar match to the triple threat.

Whatever. If this Rumble was any indication of how "the road" is going to be, then WrestleMania 22 is going to suck balls.

[Dave Youell]

My 2 Cents on that....

Rey winning, well from what i've heard he's not going to main event mania so I fully expect him to lose his number 1 contendership at NWO. Rey did deserve a main title push IMO he's worked his ass off in the biz is a very solid performer, shame.

They have totally killed off Edge now, totally! The reason Cena was getting most of those boo's was because of the opposition he was facing, if he's going to go against one of the guys who the smarks love (Angle) he's going to get boo'd, Edge was a really good heel champ, dammit he should of kept that thing longer, Roll on HHH/Cena at Mania

All in all, although fucked up, the one thing that I can say was good was the fact it was fucked up, it wasn't as predictable as previous years, because they didn't ram one guy down out mouths for the past month I couldn't say for sure who would win, even at the final 4 stage I still wasn't sure and I thought that was a positive

[Rob]

And how did you like that for a prediction Dave?

[darkpower]

I don't see them doing anything with Rey's spot at Mania, because you have him getting huge pops now because he won and the smarks fall in love with the underdog storyline (hell, I thought I had a full blown orgasm when he won). I'm actually thinking that maybe they will let him main event vs. Angle.

And Orton and HHH could do interpromotional at No Way Out.

But there's another possibility, too. That is that they ship him to RAW, and then you have a major issue, because then you would have to make Cena lose the title yet AGAIN, more or less to Triple H (because it would make it heel vs. face, and I'm still against making Cena heel while he has the belt, that would make things TOO awkward), then set up Rey/HHH, and still have Orton to use for the main event on SmackDown side. I don't know if this was even considered that they could send Rey to Raw, but that could be happening.

[darkpower]

Rey winning, well from what i've heard he's not going to main event mania so I fully expect him to lose his number 1 contendership at NWO. Rey did deserve a main title push IMO he's worked his ass off in the biz is a very solid performer, shame.

Although this IS the WWE we're talking about, I don't know if they will stay with that plan now. Did you hear the pops he got when he won that thing. There is no way they can deny that he can be a huge draw. I know what the rumors are saying, but I'm also saying that I don't think they will stick with that for long. At least make the SD Mania main event a Triple Threat or something. I'm almost going to guarantee that they change something in their plans (almost because, again, look who we're talking about here. Someone who goes out of their way to fuck something up totally).

[Corkscrewed]

If they really wanted to be unpredictable, RVD should have won. :D

[Skippord]

Thats What I'm saying

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triple H, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio & Rob Van Dam as the Final Four was so damn stupid. I'm sorry, but it just reeked of predictability. Not "I saw it coming" predictability, but "I should have seen it coming, but part of the reason I didn't was because I hope they wouldn't do that" predictability.

I have no problem with Mysterio winning, but the way they hid behind Eddie was ridiculous. Chavo fucking Guerrero (an actual relative of Eddie) and Chris fucking Benoit were in the match and treated like shit. Psicosis & Super Crazy were good friends of Eddie, too, from what I hear, yet they get no mention because Rey is Eddie's boy. It's cheap and stupid. They want Eddie to win the Rumble, they should have let Chavo win, go to SmackDown!, lost to Orton at No Way Out when a returning "Cowboy" Bob fucks Chavo over. Rand then RKOs Bob on SmackDown! to get some heat, and then we have Kurt vs. Orton at WrestleMania, and Chavo for the US Division.

Triple H didn't need to make the Final Four; I like the guy and think he's a Hell of a performer, but that was just selfish. Shelton Benjamin, Chavo Guerrero, Goldust (the only guy I think I actually marked out for in the entire match), Carlito or anyone else really, could have used the rub of making the Final Four. Triple H eliminated both Kane & Big Show pissed me off a little, too. Kane was hot when he first came in tonight, but the WWE fucked it up again. Here's to him getting a monster push on RAW.

The best match of the night was easily the Cruiserweight Open Invititational, and it is the only reason I refuse to shit on the event as a whole. That's why you have the cruisers Vince, to make your crap at least passable.

[DaveWadding]

Triple H, Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio & Rob Van Dam as the Final Four was so damn stupid. I'm sorry, but it just reeked of predictability. Not "I saw it coming" predictability, but "I should have seen it coming, but part of the reason I didn't was because I hope they wouldn't do that" predictability.

I have no problem with Mysterio winning, but the way they hid behind Eddie was ridiculous. Chavo fucking Guerrero (an actual relative of Eddie) and Chris fucking Benoit were in the match and treated like shit. Psicosis & Super Crazy were good friends of Eddie, too, from what I hear, yet they get no mention because Rey is Eddie's boy. It's cheap and stupid. They want Eddie to win the Rumble, they should have let Chavo win, go to SmackDown!, lost to Orton at No Way Out when a returning "Cowboy" Bob fucks Chavo over. Rand then RKOs Bob on SmackDown! to get some heat, and then we have Kurt vs. Orton at WrestleMania, and Chavo for the US Division.

Triple H didn't need to make the Final Four; I like the guy and think he's a Hell of a performer, but that was just selfish. Shelton Benjamin, Chavo Guerrero, Goldust (the only guy I think I actually marked out for in the entire match), Carlito or anyone else really, could have used the rub of making the Final Four. Triple H eliminated both Kane & Big Show pissed me off a little, too. Kane was hot when he first came in tonight, but the WWE fucked it up again. Here's to him getting a monster push on RAW.

The best match of the night was easily the Cruiserweight Open Invititational, and it is the only reason I refuse to shit on the event as a whole. That's why you have the cruisers Vince, to make your crap at least passable.

You're right. Val Venis, Chavo, or Kane would have all been the best choices to win.

[Dave Youell]

And how did you like that for a prediction Dave?
ALL HAIL ROB!

[Londoner]

I only got to see the first 10 mins of this poorly booked rumble because we get the first 10 free on box office, and I noticed a lot of empty seats there. Did those seats in view of the camera fill up at any point?I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.That Rumble card was the shittest card ever for a ppv imo.Mark Henry challenging for the title?Yeah, that'll get peoples attention.These writers are fucking stupid.(i know we say that over and over again, but I had to say it once more)

[Tornado]

Did anyone else notice that when Chavo was eliminated, he didn't go over the top rope?

[Pinnacle Charisma]

I have no problem with Mysterio winning, but the way they hid behind Eddie was ridiculous. Chavo fucking Guerrero (an actual relative of Eddie) and Chris fucking Benoit were in the match and treated like shit. Psicosis & Super Crazy were good friends of Eddie, too, from what I hear, yet they get no mention because Rey is Eddie's boy. It's cheap and stupid.


On a semi-related note its preety crap that they only mention Benoit and Mysterio as good friends of Eddie only because they are upper-midcarders and dont mention that Eddie was close with Psicosis and Super Crazy because they are lower on the card.

Whats even worse is they push down our throats of how close Bats was to Eddie even though they only knew each other for a couple of years (I know it was a part of a storyline but still this is disrespecting a mans death)

[Dave Youell]

I only got to see the first 10 mins of this poorly booked rumble because we get the first 10 free on box office, and I noticed a lot of empty seats there. Did those seats in view of the camera fill up at any point?I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't.That Rumble card was the shittest card ever for a ppv imo.Mark Henry challenging for the title?Yeah, that'll get peoples attention.These writers are fucking stupid.(i know we say that over and over again, but I had to say it once more)
Think about the bigger picture here.

Why do most people order the Rumble? Because of the Rumble itself not the title matches, well at least that's my feeling on it and that's why I paid for it last night.

Why waste a 5 star main event that won't draw in more ratings? Save it for NWO for Taker/Angle which more people would be interested in seeing, this whole thing was only thrown together at the last minute anyway, if Dave didn't get injured this whole thing would be turned on it's head, basically it was a filler because they knew they could use it there.

[Mr. JL]

As soon as I saw that the Royal Rumble would not be the last match on the card I just shook my head in disbelief.

I also love the fact that besides the beginning and ending of the Rumble that Rey Mysterio was virtually invisible. Hell, the WWE could have just asked him to work the first few minutes with Triple H, casually slip out of the ring, and then come back in for the ending and no one would have noticed.

And who the hell decided to put Mark Henry in the MAIN EVENT?!

[Mr. JL]

And do not even get me started on Rob Van Dam's return to the ring. :rant:

[Blue Demon]

I just wonder why they'd make him win and not do anything with it...I mean it's one thing if they were pushing a guy and realized they were making a mistake or something, but to make a guy win and it's obvious that they're going to take away his shot, is stupid.

[TerranRich]

Did anyone else notice that when Chavo was eliminated, he didn't go over the top rope?

Did anyone else notice that two of RVD's eliminations were fucked up? I mean Goldust jumped over the top rope on his own! :lol:

[LK]

Worst Rumble ever! The only good thing about it is that Edge has had his run and I no longer have to see him be the champion again.

[Dave Youell]

I just wonder why they'd make him win and not do anything with it...I mean it's one thing if they were pushing a guy and realized they were making a mistake or something, but to make a guy win and it's obvious that they're going to take away his shot, is stupid.
Well when the surname of the booker is Rhodes, what did you expect? Really?

They may still stick with him, it could all change, I now understand why he didn't go over in the battle royal on Smackdown though, probably to test the waters and see what the reaction would be like

[Gone Mad]

Yeah, mostly for the ending and the surprise entries being wack, I'd say this was one of the worst. Still, being there was fun and my sign is very much in that match. Plus, taking out the best guys the way they did... that wasn't right. So many people were pissed Booker left in a minute and we forgot Flair was even in it.

[Cool King]

Was your sign a white one with red writing that said "WADOO" on it, and it had and arrow pointing down?

[Gone Mad]

nope. Mine was a white TPWW.NET one, a black ANGLE IS GOD, and a red CENA SUX. I was behind the commentators. You'll see the TPWW one during the Rumble match for sure.

[Cool King]

You behind the commentators?

Damn it, I wasn't looking there.:(

[Y3J]

That rumble sucked, this was the one PPV that usually guarantees goodness, and WWE even screwed this one up.

[TerranRich]

Jesus Fucking Christ, was I the only one that enjoyed the Rumble? I'm a mark for the Royal Rumble, I suppose, so I don't feel cheated out of $35. I feel it was well spent, because I always enjoy the Rumble.

Having Shane (a non-entrant) eliminate Shawn (an entrant) pissed me off, as did the Spirit Squad's entrance, interrupting Lilian. It kinda almost ruined it for me, having somebody ruin the telling-of-the-rules like that, for NO fucking reason.

But other than that, I enjoyed everything and was glad that I was right in predicting Rey's win. :D

[VonErich Lives]

So, why didn't Chavo dedicate it to Eddie, then he could have won.

This PPV was so predictable.

I mean, from Helms winning the belt
to Cena entrance, you don't go through all that for a guy to lose.

Rey "I dedicate to Eddie" and the whole looking up after getting his number.

The real question is, if Eddie didn't die, who would have won the Rumble?

[VonErich Lives]

oh yeah and at WM will it be Shane or Vince vs. HBK?

or wait, watch, vince will bring in that 7ft guy they signed who was in longest yard.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, I suppose Orton will challege Rey for his #1 contendership at NWO... settingup all of five weeks to build up the Wrestlemania main event.

That's planning for ya... :nono:

Happened with Austin & Rock for Mania 17.

[Kane Knight]

Jesus Fucking Christ, was I the only one that enjoyed the Rumble? I'm a mark for the Royal Rumble, I suppose, so I don't feel cheated out of $35. I feel it was well spent, because I always enjoy the Rumble.

Hmmm...Checklist...

Awesome Cruiser Match.
Slept through the Diva match.
Squash match.
Royal Rumble, solid.
The lesser of two evils regaining the title.
A shitty main event to cap the evening.

overall, I enjoyed it. The Rumble could have been better, and Kurt should have been facing someone else. I bought it for the Rumble, and I didn't go home unhappy.

[Scarface]

What the shit is this Rey bollocks all about? Eddie died and I was sad about it, but give me a break. Making out that Eddie 'gave' Mysterio his shit number and Mysterio being the only one made out to still give a shit that Eddie is gone really annoyed me.

Also the fact that even though the guy is awesomely talented and everything, he still looks, acts and is over as a cruiserweight guy. It just doesn't seem credible to me to have him go for the title.

[The Naitch]

nope. Mine was a white TPWW.NET one, a black ANGLE IS GOD, and a red CENA SUX. I was behind the commentators. You'll see the TPWW one during the Rumble match for sure.

nope never saw you. You wasted valuable cardboard and ink

[Corkscrewed]

Happened with Austin & Rock for Mania 17.

Yeah, and I was kinda annoyed at that time too.

The thing that saved that in terms of buildup was all the history they'd had with each other. Kurt and Rey have history, but it's basically one feud. They never had the epic rivalry and Rock and Austin had.

[DominateR]

I was deeply disappointed although I can't say surprised at all that they had Tatanka but not The Rock there even though it was in Miami...probably Rock was busy in Hollywood or some BS, but I still think they should have found some minor way to fit him in...I didn't even hear him being mentioned as being in the crowd as I watched...but SHIT HAPPENS, and I guess I'll just move on *sigh*:'(

[Londoner]

Think about the bigger picture here.

Why do most people order the Rumble? Because of the Rumble itself not the title matches, well at least that's my feeling on it and that's why I paid for it last night.

Why waste a 5 star main event that won't draw in more ratings? Save it for NWO for Taker/Angle which more people would be interested in seeing, this whole thing was only thrown together at the last minute anyway, if Dave didn't get injured this whole thing would be turned on it's head, basically it was a filler because they knew they could use it there.

Well that strategy of yours they seemed to use certainly got the Rumble to sell out didn't it?:shifty:

[crock69]

The real question is, if Eddie didn't die, who would have won the Rumble?

That's a good question, did not really think about that. My money would have been on Orton if that was the case.

On another note I was there live and noticed that a bunch of people left after the Cena vs Edge match. Hell I almost left, the thought of Henry main eventing one of the big four was repulsive. Glad i didn't as the Undertaker thing was pretty cool live.