Okay, what's up with Kane?

[Kane Knight]

They're hyping his horror movie so they're making him look like a total idiot for some cheesy, shitty-ass storyline?

And how long until Loopy and company jump on this bandwagon? :lol:

[Xero]

I looked it up and noted that he wrestled with Hawk in his last match on that date.

I could actually see them doing something about him having something to do with the death. :nono:

[Kane Knight]

Will this involve HHH humping a "Hawk" dummy on May 19th, when he reveals it?

[Xero]

No, he'll get a blow job from a hawk...

[Impact!]

As bad as that would be, that would be pretty damn funny. (in reference to KK's post)

[CharismaInjection]

I heared that the plan is this:

WWE believes Kane is a more convincing main eventer as a heel.
They want to push Kane to the main event to promote his film.
WWE plans to have Kane defeat Big Show then get drafted to Smackdown.
WWE plans on having Kane defeat the world champion at Judgement Day for the title.

Apparently it is all Vince McMahon's idea to promote Kane's film as he believes it will make more money if the star was World Champion.

Many within WWE believe it shouldn't happen as they have not got enough time to make Kane a convincing main eventer by Judgement Day. But Vince is sticking to his idea.

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I heared this about a month ago saying Kane was going to turn heel and feud with Big Show.

So he may just win the World title?

[PureHatred]

I heared that the plan is this:

WWE believes Kane is a more convincing main eventer as a heel.
They want to push Kane to the main event to promote his film.
WWE plans to have Kane defeat Big Show then get drafted to Smackdown.
WWE plans on having Kane defeat the world champion at Judgement Day for the title.

Apparently it is all Vince McMahon's idea to promote Kane's film as he believes it will make more money if the star was World Champion.

Many within WWE believe it shouldn't happen as they have not got enough time to make Kane a convincing main eventer by Judgement Day. But Vince is sticking to his idea.

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I heared this about a month ago saying Kane was going to turn heel and feud with Big Show.

So he may just win the World title?


This seems totally probable and I was actually thinking the same thing last night: "Oh, he's got a movie coming out, they must be trying to give hm a push." Makes sense.

I could even see him get his mask back down the line.

[DaveWadding]

If Kane wins the belt at Judgement Day while I'm in attendance, I just might poop myself.

In fact, I bet you if Kane wins the World Title, it would be the equivalent of the Brown Noise.

[Corkscrewed]

And he'll definitely hold it for more than one day this time, since he'd be on SD.

But we've had way too many title changes already... Kane winning it would be sorta overkill?

Then again, no one views Rey as a long standing champ anyway... :-\

[Shaggy]

I would mark out like crazy to see Kane champ again....

I dont think him as champ would make the movie bring in more cash....the movie is gonna bomb and I believe everyone already knows that.

But what ever brings the old Kane back is well worth it...just hope this storyline doesnt end in a crappy way...

[Arnold HamNegger]

I could even see him get his mask back down the line.

I heard that he's going to steal Rey's after he kills him during their title match and becomes champ. Of course it will only fit over one of his ears, but Vince thinks it'll be a good look for him. :shifty:

[loopydate]

They're hyping his horror movie so they're making him look like a total idiot for some cheesy, shitty-ass storyline?

And how long until Loopy and company jump on this bandwagon? :lol:

Nope. 'Cause unlike things that are entertaining like the Boogeyman, Pirate Paul Burchill, and especially the Spirit Squad; this was terrible. I hate "first-person" stuff in wrestling.

Although, the premise of a Kane/Show feud is sort of promising, considering some of the stuff they've done lately (the "second door" sketch, for example).

[Pepsi Man]

I HATE how we can "hear his thoughts".

[Kane Knight]

Nope. 'Cause unlike things that are entertaining like the Boogeyman, Pirate Paul Burchill, and especially the Spirit Squad; this was terrible. I hate "first-person" stuff in wrestling.

Although, the premise of a Kane/Show feud is sort of promising, considering some of the stuff they've done lately (the "second door" sketch, for example).

LOL.

Finally found a limit to the fanboyism for shitty gimmicks. :rofl:

[Kane Knight]

I would mark out like crazy to see Kane champ again....

I dont think him as champ would make the movie bring in more cash....the movie is gonna bomb and I believe everyone already knows that.

But what ever brings the old Kane back is well worth it...just hope this storyline doesnt end in a crappy way...

I would mark out to see Kane as champ. But if this gets him there, I'll smack my TV.

And then stick a nuke up Glenn Jacob's ass, and mail him to Vince.

[St. Jimmy]

could Kane squashing Rey be a credible victory?

[Kane Knight]

There's no way anyone would believe Kane going over Mysterio.

[Skippord]

I dont care as long as Kane is champion

[Kane Knight]

EmoKane

[Skippord]

He cuts himself instead of his opponents

[Kane Knight]

How is he gonna get a fringe when he's half bald?

[Skippord]

Hair Implants

[Fox]

I HATE how we can "hear his thoughts".


KANE (VOICE OVER):

"I want to rub that ass with baking powder and sautee it in red wine..."


BIG SHOW:

"What did you just say"?


KANE:

"... I didn't say anything."


BIG SHOW:

"....okay...."


KANE (VOICE OVER):

"Heh heh heh.... I masturbate to you every night..."

[Skippord]

BIG SHOW:


"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

[Kane Knight]

Kane: Shit, did I say that last part out loud?

[Skippord]

Big Show:Uncomfortable

[Kane Knight]

Triple H: That's right, my precious. Soon you will be all mine...:naughty:

[Corkscrewed]

Prolly a good time to stick this picture in again:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/photos/2030042/303.jpg

[Skippord]

Thats Hot(HHH's nipple)

[Kane Knight]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/photos/2030042/303.jpg
HHH: Oh yeah. He works out.
Hardy: Okay, so Adam fucks my girlfriend, and gets a main event push. I get fired, fed to Triple H, and then forced to give him a lapdance...God, wait until the myspace gang hears about this...

[Xero]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/photos/2030042/303.jpg
Seconds later, Triple H was sucked into the black, slimy abyss.

[Johnny Vegas]

Will this involve HHH humping a "Hawk" dummy on May 19th, when he reveals it?

:rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kane becomming credible again = jizz in Alienoid's pants.

Kane is my favourite wrestler, so seeing him get the World Title would be seven shades of awesome, in my book. It might actually help me fall in love with the product again. If they really want to make him look good coming out of this, they will have him beat John Cena, though. Monster Kane having his way with John Cena? That would pop the crowd.

[Savio]

I really hope Kane wins at Judgement day

[Xero]

Kane becomming credible again = jizz in Alienoid's pants.

Kane is my favourite wrestler, so seeing him get the World Title would be seven shades of awesome, in my book. It might actually help me fall in love with the product again. If they really want to make him look good coming out of this, they will have him beat John Cena, though. Monster Kane having his way with John Cena? That would make me go KANE! KANE! KANE! KANE! KANE IS HERE! KANE IS HERE! KANE IS THE CHAMPION! KANE! KANE! KANE! KANE IS HERE! OH MY GAAAAWWWWUUUAAADDDD!!!!1!!!!!11!11.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really hope Kane wins at Judgement day

Kane's no Kurt Angle or Chris Jericho, but the funny thing is, Monster Kane is one of the most consistently over guys in the company. Kane has been riding his early accomplishments for years now. I fully expect the crowd to be behind Kane at Judgment Day, at least partially.

[Savio]

And he'll definitely hold it for more than one day this time, since he'd be on SD.
RVD will appear and use his MITB that second.
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:lol: It'd be funny if at Newyears Revolution Kane won the Elimination chamber but then Edge used his MITB contract and beat him.

Then He wins it now at Judgement day and agian falls victum to the MITB winner.

3 time Champion, totaling 24 hours as champ.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Rey Mysterio vs. Kane at Judgment Day makes a lot of sense, too. Kurt Angle, Booker T, Chris Benoit, etc. will probably all be tied up with the King of the Ring Tournament. The best I can come up with as a challenger is JBL (who is US Champion at the moment).

I will definately be ordering Judgment Day if Kane is involved.

[DaveWadding]

Kane becomming credible again = jizz in Alienoid's pants.



The hilarious thing is how I was going to say how you would probably shit yourself and jizz your pants at the same time.

Damn you are predictable.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The hilarious thing is how I was going to say how you would probably shit yourself and jizz your pants at the same time.

Damn you are predictable.

:wtf:

[Savio]

Yeah dave he said that 5 months ago.

[DaveWadding]

:wtf:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note

??

[The Heat]

I don't really think it's a question of credibility. Kane has beaten countless main eventers and is still being misused.

Any time you have a deserving talent with an opportunity to win a belt, it's all good. Saying Kane doesn't have the credibility to win a belt is the equivalent of saying RVD doesn't deserve to win a World/WWE title.

For that matter, many thought Benoit would never win "the big one". But, he did. I think WWE purposely buries talent and then lets them win a title just so you'd believe their corny tag line "Anything can happen in the WWE!".

As for Kane's movie "See No Evil" it looks good, but, I'll reserve judgements until I see it. Having Kane chokeslam Show was a good, strong move towards making Kane a main-eventer.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't really think it's a question of credibility. Kane has beaten countless main eventers and is still being misused.

Any time you have a deserving talent with an opportunity to win a belt, it's all good. Saying Kane doesn't have the credibility to win a belt is the equivalent of saying RVD doesn't deserve to win a World/WWE title.

For that matter, many thought Benoit would never win "the big one". But, he did. I think WWE purposely buries talent and then lets them win a title just so you'd believe their corny tag line "Anything can happen in the WWE!".

As for Kane's movie "See No Evil" it looks good, but, I'll reserve judgements until I see it. Having Kane chokeslam Show was a good, strong move towards making Kane a main-eventer.

But see, that's exactly what I'm saying. Kane could be a main eventer, but he's not. Right now he is a tier below the John Cena's, Triple H's, Edge's and Shawn Michaels' on RAW.

Kane is just outside the circle of being a "top guy". He's never really stepped into that circle. I doubt he will this time, but I would love to see it happen.

A few wins and a few mark out moments of destruction is all he really needs to be viewed as a title threat. Right now he has been away from the hunt for so long, they really need to ease him back in. A win against Big Show would do that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_note

??

And that has what to do with anything?

[The Heat]

But see, that's exactly what I'm saying. Kane could be a main eventer, but he's not. Right now he is a tier below the John Cena's, Triple H's, Edge's and Shawn Michaels' on RAW.

Kane is just outside the circle of being a "top guy". He's never really stepped into that circle. I doubt he will this time, but I would love to see it happen.

A few wins and a few mark out moments of destruction is all he really needs to be viewed as a title threat. Right now he has been away from the hunt for so long, they really need to ease him back in. A win against Big Show would do that.

I agree to some degree that Kane is outside the top-tier level. Why is that?

Simple. During the "Attitude" era in which the Kane character debuted, he made his impact and then floundered away to doing nothing. He was stuck with freakin' X-Pac[which is a punishment no wrestler should have to endure] and was then a member of the McMahon/Taker/Kane alliance. Although Kane was briefly WWF Champion for one day, having him lose the next RAW masked what credibility he had going into the main events..........

Fast forward about 7 years and you get the watered down version of Kane stuck doing nothing. The sad thing is in-between those 7 years, he only got 3 title shots. One against Austin, one against HHH, and one against Benoit.....

So, as I said, his history of being a main-event guy is there, it's just the misusing of his character that's the issue. I agree they need to improve his current character before giving him a World title.

[Pepsi Man]

Kane's been going for the World Title, just never winning it lately, much like Undertaker used to do. YES, I know they're not really brothers, but that's the first similie that came to mind. Kane was even in the Elimination Chamber earlier this year and usually is.

As for "John Cena's, Triple H's, Edge's and Shawn Michaels'", Kane's come pretty close with Triple H, and it seemed like Kane got at least as many wins over Edge when they were feuding last year as Edge got over Kane.

[dablackguy]

Kane's been going for the World Title, just never winning it lately, much like Undertaker used to do. YES, I know they're not really brothers, but that's the first similie that came to mind. Kane was even in the Elimination Chamber earlier this year and usually is.

As for "John Cena's, Triple H's, Edge's and Shawn Michaels'", Kane's come pretty close with Triple H, and it seemed like Kane got at least as many wins over Edge when they were feuding last year as Edge got over Kane.

I remember Kane getting his ass kicked weekly cause he was a bitch about the whole Lita thing.

I, personally, feel like they've shattered Kane's credibility. This isn't something that occurred in a short period of time. Just consider years and years of losses in title matches/elimination chambers etc.

I want to get behind Kane, like I'm sure a number of people do. Its just after all this time of being in and out of the main event, having a one day title reign to show for it and a bunch of misses thereafter, its hard to believe he's finally gonna get it. It doesn't help that he'd be beating Mysterio and not Cena, as I think having him beat Cena would do wonders for his credibility. As is, I think if booked correctly, they could make him seem formidable, but it seems from what's been said, the just wanna send him over to SD, stomp out Ray and hold the belt in time for the whole movie project

[Kane Knight]

Edge won all the momentous matches

[Savio]

Fast forward about 7 years and you get the watered down version of Kane stuck doing nothing. The sad thing is in-between those 7 years, he only got 3 title shots. One against Austin, one against HHH, and one against Benoit.....He got a few more like with goldberg and all that sheezy.

Kane requested he lose the title the next night because as champ you had to do a lot of shit more then other wrestlers, and wearing a full body suit that didn't allow sweat wouldn't allow him to do that (According to him)

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Kane needs to fuck people up, maybe get a win over HBK would give him enough credibility............But come seriously any one could beat rey.

[Flair Wooo]

Any one could beat hbk.....

[St. Jimmy]

*pulls out the Katie Vick taped segment*
LMAO... i <3 Kane.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The more and more I think about it, the more and more I want to see John Cena retain the WWE Title at Backlash, then get cocky and challenge anyone in the back, only for Kane to come out, face John Cena, and hit three Chokeslams in a row on Cena to become two-time WWE Champion. :D

[Just John]

Kane needs to go Psycho on everything and everyone, remember a few years back, when he threw Bichoff off the stage? He needs to something like that on a bigger scale to everyone. Then he should go to smackdown and pull the fist down somehow. Just fuck up everything. Then give him a title shot.

[Londoner]

That segment on Raw where we could hear Kanes thoughts would've been more realistic/made more sense if he couldn't hear his thoughts.I hate this style of writing WWE is using recently.They're making it as though we are watching a movie.Look back to Ortons feud with the Undertaker,we could see stuff Orton was seeing, and that no one else could.It makes no sense.I want the WWE writing team to explain to us how we see/hear these things.I imagine they would have a hard time doing so.

[Londoner]

Having said that, I liked the part when he was going psycho on the SS&Big Show.

[Kane Knight]

Am I the only one less bothered by the actual fact we could hear what was going on in his head (Which'll likely turn out to have an explanation, because the big things never do, but the dumb things always do), than the content itself?

[Fox]

We're talking about a company that had a 60 year old woman give birth to a hand for Christ's sake. Us being able to hear Kane's thoughts shouldn't surprise you.

It's not as bad as the Ultimate Warrior/Hogan angle from WCW. I remember a skit when Hogan got freaked out looking in the mirror, saying that Warrior was in it, prompting Bischoff to look and say that Warrior wasn't there. Unfortunately, WE could all see the Ultimate Warrior standing in the mirror. Talk about fucked up angles.

[Kane Knight]

It's not as bad as the visions Taker sent Orton, either.

[Kane Knight]

Still not great...

[Just John]

Half the reason Kane was effetive was because of his mask, it brought mystery to his character, now he just looks like the worlds biggest transvestite. Kane wasnt that much of a main eventer back in the attitude era, but people avoided him like the plague. Without a face you couldn't see any emotions, its only a matter of time before we see kane cry. If he did put his mask back on, people wouldnt question it, they'd just be glad it was back.

[Kane Knight]

now he just looks like the worlds biggest transvestite.

:wtf:

Are you retarded?

[Just John]

why keep asking me

[Kane Knight]

Because you seem Hell-bent on providing so many reasons to ask.

[Just John]

How do I respond to a...thing, like that?

[Kane Knight]

I don't know...Do you even know what a transvestite is?

[Just John]

Of course I dont :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Your mum.

[Pepsi Man]

We're talking about a company that had a 60 year old woman give birth to a hand for Christ's sake. Us being able to hear Kane's thoughts shouldn't surprise you.

It's not as bad as the Ultimate Warrior/Hogan angle from WCW. I remember a skit when Hogan got freaked out looking in the mirror, saying that Warrior was in it, prompting Bischoff to look and say that Warrior wasn't there. Unfortunately, WE could all see the Ultimate Warrior standing in the mirror. Talk about fucked up angles.
To me, neither is better than the other.

[loopydate]

Am I the only one less bothered by the actual fact we could hear what was going on in his head (Which'll likely turn out to have an explanation, because the big things never do, but the dumb things always do), than the content itself?

To be honest, I was so distracted by the fact that I could hear his thoughts that I didn't pay any attention to what he was saying...to himself.

[Kane Knight]

To be honest, I was so distracted pleasuring myself over rather shitty gimmicks to notice one way or the other.

Fix'd. Still can't accept that this gimmick isn't shitty enough for you to fawn over.

[Londoner]

Am I the only one less bothered by the actual fact we could hear what was going on in his head (Which'll likely turn out to have an explanation, because the big things never do, but the dumb things always do), than the content itself?

As i said, i liked the bit when he was going psycho on everyone.I just can't understand why we had to hear his thoughts, wouldn't it be more dramatic if we couldn't?

[Kane Knight]

KAne floundering backstage wouldn't seem dramatic no matter what they did.

[TerranRich]

I liked just john's idea of Kane going ape shit on Smackdown, tearing the fist down and going nuts. I so want to see that. :D

[loopydate]

Fix'd. Still can't accept that this gimmick isn't shitty enough for you to fawn over.

Well, accept it or don't accept it, not much I can do about it. But there's a difference between a shitty gimmick and a campy gimmick. The Spirit Squad is good, campy fun. Kane hearing voices in his head (that, through the magic of bad storytelling, we can hear too!) is shit.

[loopydate]

I liked just john's idea of Kane going ape shit on Smackdown, tearing the fist down and going nuts. I so want to see that. :D

Ditto. It would be a good reason to change up the SD set.

[Londoner]

KAne floundering backstage wouldn't seem dramatic no matter what they did.

I disagree.Not hearing his thoughts would make us more willing to believe something is actually going wrong in his head, and it would add more mystery to the storyline.

[Kane Knight]

Mystery? So far the only mystery is why loopy doesn't treat all really stupid gimmicks equally. ;)

[Londoner]

I thought you were going to use that word mystery and come up with something, but you know what i mean.

[darkpower]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/photos/2030042/303.jpg
Camel toe!

[Kane Knight]

I thought you were going to use that word mystery and come up with something, but you know what i mean.

Well, I was going to tear the masks off the creative team to find out who they really are...