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The One
05-01-2006, 06:03 PM
Who do you think have been the best Champs. I am not saying they mayb have been the besy wrestlers, but who put the titles over the best? You can pick any title, just say who made the belt seem the most worth while...

I'll start with an easy one, Rob Van Dam was the best thing to ever happen to the ECW Television Championship...

neuicon
05-01-2006, 06:08 PM
Kurt Angle, of course, Chris Benoit, Bret Hart, Eddie Guererro, Macho King Randy Savage, Ric Flair, The Rock, Triple H (When he was fit), Stone Cold Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels...

...and those were all WWF Champions. That's right, with the "F"!!

The One
05-01-2006, 06:11 PM
You kind of listed a lot of guys, I was looking for more who did the most to elevate the specific title...which not to be a pain in the ass, Benoit never held the WWF Championship, and Ric Flair (as much as I do love him) did jack shit to increase the value of the belt.

Also if your making a big deal about the "WWF" then Eddie never held it either...

McLegend
05-01-2006, 06:12 PM
I'm gonna stay with ECW and the same title, and say Tazz, becasue thats when I started to love him, and take notice of him.

Flair Wooo
05-01-2006, 06:12 PM
Bret Hart :y: :D

The One
05-01-2006, 06:17 PM
Scott Hall = Best. Intercontinental. Champ. Ever.

St. Jimmy
05-01-2006, 06:17 PM
Steve Corino was a really great champion in the ending days of ECW.

McLegend
05-01-2006, 06:18 PM
Gonna have to say HBK is th best IC champion ever, but Scott Hall is a good choice.

Flair Wooo
05-01-2006, 06:20 PM
Nah honky tonk man = Best ic champ ever :D

Flair Wooo
05-01-2006, 06:20 PM
Or Curt Hennig disgrace he never won the big one.

St. Jimmy
05-01-2006, 06:23 PM
Rick Rude, obv. =/

redoneja
05-01-2006, 06:23 PM
Samoa Joe for the ROH World Heavyweight Championship
Booker T for the WCW World Television Title
Dean Malenko and Rey Mysterio for the WCW Crusierweight Championship

The One
05-01-2006, 06:23 PM
Arn & Tully...easily the best NWA Tag Team Champs of all time.

Bad Company
05-01-2006, 06:26 PM
Lance storm and the Saskatchewan Hardcore International Title

The One
05-01-2006, 06:28 PM
I know it's unpopular, but Goldberg might very well be the best WCW United States Champ ever...

The One
05-01-2006, 06:29 PM
Oh and I am going to vote for Shane Douglas as the best ECW World Champ ever...

St. Jimmy
05-01-2006, 06:31 PM
Douglas or Funk. Definatly one of the two.

redoneja
05-01-2006, 06:39 PM
For best ECW World Champion I have to go with Shane Douglas, even though I'm not a big fan of his.

The One
05-01-2006, 06:40 PM
Screw it...I've got time...here we go...

WWE
WWE/World: Bret Hart (Steve Austin close second, not so much for his reigns, but more for his quests to get it)
IC/US: Scott Hall
Euro: William Regal
Hardcore: Al Snow
Tag: New Age Outlaws

WCW
World: Ric Flair
US: Goldberg
TV: Booker
Hardcore: Never had a credible champ
Tag: Never had anyone who made me care about the titles...

ECW
World: Shane Douglas
TV: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Eliminators

NWA
World: Ric Flair (Harley Race is damn close though)
TV: Tully Blanchard
Tag: Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard
TNA-X: Samoa Joe (damn it pains me to say that, but he gets people into the X Title)

neuicon
05-01-2006, 06:43 PM
You kind of listed a lot of guys, I was looking for more who did the most to elevate the specific title...which not to be a pain in the ass, Benoit never held the WWF Championship, and Ric Flair (as much as I do love him) did jack shit to increase the value of the belt.

Also if your making a big deal about the "WWF" then Eddie never held it either...

LOL!! Yer right... ...yeah, I thought ahead of myself. Sorry mate...

One Superstar for me would just have to be Kurt Angle. The guys showed us that coming into the business, he picked up quickly and learned the styles needed to bring to the WW"F"... ...LOL!!

Kurt held it strongly, and does a great job with promos, his skills are far greater than most in the business today and then for that matter.

Kurt also does a great job putting others over in the ring, and also goes to far lengths to take care of those he faces as well.

So for me if it was one... ...would be Kurt Angle.

Zen v.W.o.
05-01-2006, 06:43 PM
British Bulldog was easily the greatest European champion of all time.

That would be the easiest title for me to decide upon.

Flair Wooo
05-01-2006, 06:47 PM
WWE
WWE/World: Bret Hart
IC/US: Curt Hennig
Euro: William Regal
Hardcore: Crash :D
Tag: Hart foundation

WCW
World: Ric Flair
US: Bret Hart
TV:meh
Hardcore: meh
Tag: Hollywood Blondes

NWA
World: Ric Flair

redoneja
05-01-2006, 07:01 PM
WWE:
World- Bret Hart
IC- Mr Perfect or Razor Ramon
Euro- British Bulldog
Tag- Hart Foundation or New Age Outlaws
Hardcore- Al Snow

WCW:
World- Flair
US- Can't really think of one and I refuse to put Goldberg
TV-Booker T
Cruiser- Malenko/Mysterio
Tag- Harlem Heat

ECW:
World- Shane Douglas
TV- RVD
Tag- Dudleys

NWA:
World- Harley Race
Tag- Minnesoda Wrecking Crew(even though I like Arn/Tully better)
TV(for the Mid-Atlantic territory)- Tully Blanchard by far
X-Division- AJ Styles

ROH:
World- Samoa Joe
Pure- Nigel McGuinness
Tag- Briscoe Brothers

IWGP Championship- Antonio Inoki(no contest)

AJPW Triple Crown- Misawa

neuicon
05-01-2006, 07:03 PM
I'll throw in my two cents as well...

WWE: I am just going to join them all (WWE & World Champs)
WWE/World Champion - Kurt Angle
IC Champion - Shawn Michaels
European Champion - William Regal
United States Champion - Booker T (LOL!! I love that guy...)
Lightweight Champion - Taka Michinoku
Cruiserweight Champion - Dean Malenko
Hardcore Champion - Hardcore Holly
Women's Champion - Mickie James (Can't help it, sooo hot!!)
Tag Team Champions - Edge & Christian

WCW (Damn I hated the Company since they were a Senior's Company, but alright, here we go...)
World Champion - Ric Flair
United States Champion - Goldberg (Hate him but he was a great Champ.)
Television Champion - Arn Anderson
Hardcore Champion - Terry Funk
Tag Team Champions - Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko

ECW (Damn I am so sad that Vince bought this promotion...)
World Champion - Mike Awesome
Television Champion - Rob Van Dam
Tag Team Champions - Justin Credible & Lance Storm

ClockShot
05-01-2006, 07:11 PM
WWE/F
World: Shawn Michaels
IC/US: RAzor Ramon/Scott Hall
Euro: British Bulldog
Hardcore: Mick Foley
Tag: The Bushwackers

WCW:
World: Sting
US: Goldberg
TV: Never hung around long enough to have one.
Hardcore: Norman Smiley
Tag: Harlem Heat (The most obvious)

ECW:
World: Taz
TV: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Impact Players

Loose Cannon
05-01-2006, 07:11 PM
I dunno One. I would make the same exact argument for the Ultimate Warrior/IC Title that you would probably make for Goldberg/US Title. I agree with you on Goldberg. To me, Warrior made that IC Belt seem as big as The World Title. Same with Goldberg.

Other easy choices for me

Crusier: Jericho
Euro: Bulldog
TV: Tully

The One
05-01-2006, 07:14 PM
Warrior was a FANTASTIC IC Champ. Personally I think Hall was far better, but no doubt he elevated the title a lot.

While we are on it I think Warrior is one of the most under appreciated wrestlers of all time by Smarks.

weather vane
05-01-2006, 07:17 PM
ECW

World Champion - Taz
TV Champion - Rob Van Dam
Tag Team Champions - The Eliminators

WCW

World Champion - Ric Flair
US Champion - Bill Goldberg
TV Champion - Booker T
Tag Team Champions - Harlem Heat

WWF/WWE

World Champion - Bret Hart
IC Champion - Mr. Perfect/Rick Rude
Tag Team Champions - Demolition
Euro Champion - British Bulldog
Light Heavyweight Champion - Taka Michinoku
Hardcore Champion - Crash Holly
Woman's Champion - Trish Stratus

weather vane
05-01-2006, 07:18 PM
WWE/F
World: Shawn Michaels
IC/US: RAzor Ramon/Scott Hall
Euro: British Bulldog
Hardcore: Mick Foley
Tag: The Bushwackers

WCW:
World: Sting
US: Goldberg
TV: Never hung around long enough to have one.
Hardcore: Norman Smiley
Tag: Harlem Heat (The most obvious)

ECW:
World: Taz
TV: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Impact Players

Yeah ... The Bushwackers were never tag team champions. Right on tho.

Loose Cannon
05-01-2006, 07:19 PM
I think I just hated 1995 so much that Hall's reign will always suffer with me. He was a great champ though.

The One
05-01-2006, 07:20 PM
Hall made the IC Title look better then the World Title...not to hard when Diesel is the World Champ, but still.

Loose Cannon
05-01-2006, 07:22 PM
WWE/F
World: Shawn Michaels
IC/US: RAzor Ramon/Scott Hall
Euro: British Bulldog
Hardcore: Mick Foley
Tag: The Bushwackers

WCW:
World: Sting
US: Goldberg
TV: Never hung around long enough to have one.
Hardcore: Norman Smiley
Tag: Harlem Heat (The most obvious)

ECW:
World: Taz
TV: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Impact Players

The TV Title had been around since like the 70's. Wayyyy longer then both Hardcore Titles and the Euro Title.

SuperSlim
05-01-2006, 07:23 PM
Right now I'll just state the ECW world title and for that one I have two choices.

Taz
Raven

Goulet
05-01-2006, 07:37 PM
WWE
WWE/World: Hulk Hogan (someone has to say it)
IC/US: Mr. Perfect
Euro: D-Lo Brown
Hardcore: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Edge and Christian

WCW
World: Ric Flair
US: DDP
TV: Booker
Tag: Outsiders

ECW
World: Tazz
TV: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Dudley Boyz

Loose Cannon
05-01-2006, 07:42 PM
LOL Yea, Crash for the Hardcore belt. Everyone loved that belt when he had it. That was so awesome.

Also, RVD, Taz and Dudleys for the ECW Titles like Goulet had

KingofOldSchool
05-01-2006, 07:47 PM
WWE
WWE/World: Hulk Hogan, even though I hate the guy. He was the champ that brought pro wrestling mainstream. Can't think of anything more elevating than that.
IC: Ultimate Warrior...especially after winning the WWF Title while being IC Champ.
Euro: D'Lo Brown
Hardcore: Al Snow
Tag: Demolition

WCW
World: Sting...would be Flair but Sting was around for the long haul.
US: Goldberg
TV: Booker
Hardcore: Never had a credible champ
Tag: Harlem Heat

ECW
World: Shane Douglas
TV: Rob Van Dam
Tag: Dudleys

NWA
World: Ric Flair
US: Dusty Rhodes
TV: Arn Anderson
Tag: Rock N' Roll Express

ClockShot
05-01-2006, 08:03 PM
The TV Title had been around since like the 70's. Wayyyy longer then both Hardcore Titles and the Euro Title.

I understand that L.C. But I can't place a name to the title that makes it look important. My apologies.:(

Linkbowler
05-01-2006, 08:04 PM
WWE
WWE/World: Triple H
Intercontinental: Mr. Perfect
Euro: Al Snow
US: John Cena
Hardcore: Crash Holly
Tag: New Age Outlaws
Women's: Trish Stratus
Light Heavyweight: Taka Michinoku

WCW
World: Hollywood Hogan
US: DDP
TV: Booker T
Tag: Harlem Heat
Cruiserweight: Rey Misterio, Jr.
Cruiserweight Tag: Kid Romeo/Elix Skipper (yeah, it existed for 2 weeks, I know)
Hardcore: Norman Freaking Smiley (IT'S BIG WIGGLE TIME!)

TNA: Sure, they're the NWA titles, but I'm only using champs from the TNA era.
World: Jeff Jarrett
X Division: AJ Styles
Tag: America's Most Wanted

neuicon
05-01-2006, 08:05 PM
WWE

WCW
World: Sting...would be Flair but Sting was around for the long haul.
US: Goldberg
TV: Booker
Hardcore: Never had a credible champ
Tag: Harlem Heat

Harlem Heat!? LOL!! I loved the NEW Harlem Heat, LOL!! Stupid Ahmed Johnson...

Mister Sinister
05-01-2006, 08:35 PM
European Title - D'Lo Brown!
Intercontinetal Championship - Randy Orton
Hardcore Champion - Sadly, I'll say Steve blackman
WWE Tag Team - New Age Outlaws

ECW TV - RVD
ECW World - Raven
ECW Tag - The Dudleys

WCW Cruiserweight - Chris Jericho
WCW TV Champion - Booker T
WCW US Champion - Diamond Dallas Page
WCW Tag - Jendrak & O'Haire

The One
05-01-2006, 08:36 PM
Harlem Heat!? LOL!! I loved the NEW Harlem Heat, LOL!! Stupid Ahmed Johnson...

You loved the NEW Harlem Heat, and yet one half of the team you think is stupid, meanwhile you laugh at the idea of someone listing Booker T & Stevie Ray as the best ever?

Flair Wooo
05-01-2006, 08:54 PM
Lol :D

Johnny Vegas
05-01-2006, 09:23 PM
Yea, i am not going to list yet, but DDP was the best US champion EVER. His fued with Raven/Benoit and the Uncensored match '98 = classic.

Pinnacle Charisma
05-01-2006, 09:38 PM
Austin reign in 2001 was very good. He helped elevate Angle, Jericho and Benoit and was the only intresting thing about the whole invasion.

neuicon
05-01-2006, 09:53 PM
You loved the NEW Harlem Heat, and yet one half of the team you think is stupid, meanwhile you laugh at the idea of someone listing Booker T & Stevie Ray as the best ever?

LOL!! Did you NOT notice the "LOL" after the fact, and the "STUPID AHMED JOHNSON" at the end of the sentence!?

LOL!! I was being sarcastic, man.

Skippord
05-01-2006, 11:00 PM
WCW Hardcore:"Screaming" Norman Smiley