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Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2006, 09:15 AM
Rey Mysterio's title reign is pissing me off. Seriously, I get it, he's small, he won the title, hooray. Seriously, I hope the fans start booing Mysterio out of the building. This is the type of hostility I had towards John Cena when he was first on his way to being WWE Champion.

This is nothing against the performers, but the way Michael Cole is told to hammer home that "America is about underdogs!" and their constant attempts to put Rey Mysterio over as a man who will fight anybody...IT IS FUCKING STUPID!!!!!!!

Positioning the audience doesn't work. It didn't with John Cena, and it won't with Rey Mysterio. We know they are meant to be good guys, but trying to prove it to us every week is just going to get them booed out of resistence to having moralistic Champions shoved down our throats.

I really want to see Rey Mysterio's reign end, now. I like Rey Mysterio, this is what the WWE's positioning attempts have done to me. Idiots. They ruined what could have been an organically emotional title reign, simply because they wanted to pump it full with mechanical emotion. Fuck you WWE, and fuck Rey Mysterio's "underdog reign".

I wasn't planning on being so ranty with that, and there was supposed to be a constuctive point somewhere, but it's been made many times before on these boards, I'm just renewing my hate for the way the WWE constantly shove guys down our throats as good guy World Champions. It has the exact opposite effect. After watching this week's SmackDown! earlier today(Australia gets it a day before the United States), I got sick to the stomach when the main event for next week's show was announced. It was well done, and it is kind of clever, but I still hope it fucks the WWE over, just because it is so transparent.

Once again, fuck you WWE, fuck you for being that little whiny kid who is always making up stories for sympathy when their real life is good enough. Fuck you for making me detest Rey Mysterio and John Cena's current title reigns.

Feel free to add anything relating to the "fairy tale" wrestling careers John Cena and Rey Mysterio are currently living.

Disturbed316
05-05-2006, 09:19 AM
I just think it is so stupid that they keep calling him the "underdog" champion. Do they really think they are building his credibility by doing that?

Although I'm all for Rey having a title reign, I just wish it hadn't come the way it did. First they are billing it as he did it for Eddie and now the whole underdog crap is completly ruining it.

Impact!
05-05-2006, 09:22 AM
I'm sick of them bringing in this Fairy Tale character called God. Seriously how old do they fucking think we are :rant:







:shifty:

Anywaaays, yeah I gotta agree with you here Alienoid :y:

Mysterio's just been annoying since Eddie's death (Not disrespecting Eddie).

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 09:31 AM
Haven't they been positioning the uadience for decades?

Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2006, 09:38 AM
Haven't they been positioning the uadience for decades?

They have, and it's worked, for the most part. Now people have changed. It's just happened, I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the fact that most of the audience which was positionable has left? Maybe it is because of some kind of pop-culture development which has allowed people more freedom when it comes to their views. I don't know how to pinpoint the exact moment when people clicked over.

Anyway, people aren't letting the WWE position them anymore. They tried to make John Cena a good guy and the fans eventually told the WWE to go fuck themselves. They then try it with Rey Mysterio. I constantly get this image of a person who is looking at a nice thing, then someone comes up and says "isn't that nice?" so many time that the person who was originally looking at it suddenly associates a negative image with that thing.

The WWE got away with positioning us alongside Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. Now we have entered a time when people don't want to be told to colour between the lines. Why does the WWE keep pushing us to, it just makes us want to rebel.

Schoenauer
05-05-2006, 10:10 AM
Because he's Vince McMahon dammit.

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 10:12 AM
Really? And are y'all really rebelling People still tune in, they ignore the fans, money comes in...

Schoenauer
05-05-2006, 10:16 AM
This is the money era I guess. But if this is the money era... wouldn't that make Cena and Mysterio champion forever? Since they seem to be the most marketable to the WWE when Edge, Kane, Foley, RVD, The Bashams, Triple H, Angle, Benoit, Jericho, and Lashley could send WWE to the moon. DITCH THESE GUYS YOU CALL UNDERDOGS and let the big boys play.

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 10:26 AM
:rofl:

TerranRich
05-05-2006, 10:32 AM
WCW was where the big boys played... now they "play" in TNA and hog up the sandbox. ;)

But yeah, I'm starting to hate Mysterio's title reign now too. I mean, I marked out when he won the Royal Rumble, and then beat Orton for the WHC, but it's all worn off and I can't stand the constant barrage of "underdog" comments and whatnot. And I totally agree that it doesn't help his credibility one bit.

Shadow
05-05-2006, 12:29 PM
Hey here's what I've done in responce to the positioning of the WWE. I suggest the rest of you do it.

"Welcome to the History Channel. Tonight, we'll be looking at the history of cement."

St. Jimmy
05-05-2006, 12:57 PM
I don't watch Smackdown anymore,
i just read the spoilers and wait...
as soon as the belt is off of Mysterio,
i may tune back in.

TerranRich
05-05-2006, 01:06 PM
Dammit, Jimmy, every post you make looks like a damn poem!

Wrestling has become
stale
and
boring,
And though I used to be
a fan
I ain't
no more.

:p

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 01:12 PM
I like
endjamming
but sometimes it
seems totally
retarded
like I can't put
together a
full
thought

Johnny Vegas
05-05-2006, 01:23 PM
I agree with Alienoid 100%. I am not going to sit here and talk like a noob "I am not gonna watch wwe no more cuz they do thiz" or nothing like that, but they have to wonder: Other than face SCSA, in the last 10 years, heels have brought higher ratings and more money. Why? Because ever since Stone Cold, they always seem to make the faces TOO clean, which in turn makes him look like a "lollypop champion" as i like to call it. This is why i think when Randy Orton had the title, they should have let him do his cocky gimmick because within a MONTH, i already wanted to see it change and that is bad because i wanted the title on Randy BAD. I mean, did you see the reaction he got when he won it from Benoit?

Lock Jaw
05-05-2006, 02:01 PM
It really is a shame.

Before Eddie dies, Rey was geniunely getting over. Remember, Teddy was on the verge of naming him the number one contender, but Palmer Canon put Eddie there instead.

Nevertheless, coming off his fued with Eddie, Rey may have been more over then ever and in my opinion he would have eventually seen that title shot (and maybe eventually even a victory)

However, with the death of Eddie, Rey has gone downhill. He has been "positioned" as the underdog fairy-tale type, as you said, and many of the cheers he gets arenot for him at all, but for Eddie.

Rey may have been more over back then then he is now.

Mister Sinister
05-05-2006, 02:22 PM
WCW was where the big boys played... now they "play" in TNA and hog up the sandbox. ;)

But yeah, I'm starting to hate Mysterio's title reign now too. I mean, I marked out when he won the Royal Rumble, and then beat Orton for the WHC, but it's all worn off and I can't stand the constant barrage of "underdog" comments and whatnot. And I totally agree that it doesn't help his credibility one bit.

My Thing is, that I've always liked Mysterio's in-ring work, but never really been a fan of him, most of you know, I love high flying matches, wheither they be good or just spot fests, but I never got behind Mysterio ever, since well, he was always the one Cruiserweight, they mention above all others, in WCW and WWE...

I was glad to see Mysterio get the Title win and was even shocked when he won the Royal Rumble this past year, because I was totally expecting Orton to do so, before the rumble itself, however Mysterio title win was, well lacking to me, since most anyone seen it coming a mile away, Same can be said for Batista at mania the year before, however Benoit was a different story, because, knowing the backstage stuff and them adding Michaels to the match, you wasn't sure he pull it out, which he did..

But Mysterio reign, as well as Cena's is pissing me off, but mine is, I just hate Cena, I'm like the majority, that liked him when he was heel and going into his face run until he won the US Title at WMXX, and guess I hate him more then Rey Rey, but just hate how there both shoved down out throats.

neuicon
05-05-2006, 02:40 PM
I could not agree with you more, Alienoid...

This fairy tale bullshit has totally taken over the business, and maybe its because they bank on the fact that so many kids watch their product, but this is also something watched by a large male adult audience..

The stories has become much worse, and is starting to look a lot like Vince just doesn't care. Smackdown is dying from not having enough talent, and Rey's character is just finished. How can you keep carrying a small, unworthy champion through a reign in which was not even carried out properly?

Cena is the total sign of disrespect to the fans by the staff in charge of writing. They constantly try to shove his character down our throats into submissions hoping that we'll all like him and follow him like sheep.

Vince has been doing this bullshit to the fans for years now. Create a bullshit storyline and try and make the fans choose whom he wants to choose for us, yet... ...we are told that "WE" make the "SUPERSTARS" popular or not.

Umaga, Doink, Crush (W/The infamous HEARTPUNCH), All American Lex Luger, FLASH FUNK!?, Bastian Booger: these are all wrestlers who were given to us in hopes of liking them. Trying too hard to feed us their fairy tale bullshit like: the 123 Kid, Barry Horowitz and Atom Bomb with Johnny Polo!?

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 02:57 PM
It really is a shame.

Before Eddie dies, Rey was geniunely getting over. Remember, Teddy was on the verge of naming him the number one contender, but Palmer Canon put Eddie there instead.

Nevertheless, coming off his fued with Eddie, Rey may have been more over then ever and in my opinion he would have eventually seen that title shot (and maybe eventually even a victory)

However, with the death of Eddie, Rey has gone downhill. He has been "positioned" as the underdog fairy-tale type, as you said, and many of the cheers he gets arenot for him at all, but for Eddie.

Rey may have been more over back then then he is now.

One other issue is that he wasn't champion back then. A lot of people have found him to be unbelievable as a Heavyweight champion.

Johnny Vegas
05-05-2006, 02:57 PM
lol i remember the All American Lex Luger. The guy was supposed to be the next Hulk Hogan for the WWF. LOL This guy was going to talk shows, signing autographs, and even had a tour bus. Man, talk about a push that went nowhere.

WWE, if you are reading, read close. AUSTIN, THE ROCK (97-2001, 2003), TRIPLE H (99-2001), nWo '97, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WORKED. WHY? BECAUSE THE FANS DECIDED THAT THEY ENJOYED WATCHING THEM. I do not dislike Cena personally or publically for that matter because i am loyal, but yea, he needs to either go back to how he was or just think of something new for him. They've done this to Diesel, who should've stuck to the edgy Diesel. The Rock...'nuff said...To Cena, i mean damn.

If you want to show the little kids morals, tell them to listen to their parents and do what the fuck they are supposed to do.

neuicon
05-05-2006, 03:19 PM
lol i remember the All American Lex Luger. The guy was supposed to be the next Hulk Hogan for the WWF. LOL This guy was going to talk shows, signing autographs, and even had a tour bus. Man, talk about a push that went nowhere.

WWE, if you are reading, read close. AUSTIN, THE ROCK (97-2001, 2003), TRIPLE H (99-2001), nWo '97, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WORKED. WHY? BECAUSE THE FANS DECIDED THAT THEY ENJOYED WATCHING THEM. I do not dislike Cena personally or publically for that matter because i am loyal, but yea, he needs to either go back to how he was or just think of something new for him. They've done this to Diesel, who should've stuck to the edgy Diesel. The Rock...'nuff said...To Cena, i mean damn.

If you want to show the little kids morals, tell them to listen to their parents and do what the fuck they are supposed to do.

You... ...fucking... ...rule.

You're right about the Luger issue and very good in pointing out your thoughts the way that you did.

Wrestling has been dying out like a dying fire since/around 200. I believe myself, that the height of its greatness was at around 1997 - 1999.

TerranRich
05-05-2006, 03:54 PM
Wrestling has been dying out like a dying fire since/around 200.

200 A.D.? That sounds about right.

Corkscrewed
05-05-2006, 03:58 PM
Here's the problem:

You have Vince who still believes that he can manipulate the audience into however he wants, just like 10 and 20 years ago.

You have writers who couldn't pull off a credible build-up for the life of them, unless HHH happens to be generous and does it for them (seriously; gimme the last time a guy was built up and made credible and remained credible, and was NOT shoved down our throats, save Batista; Cena had a great buildup, and then they shoved him down our throats). The writers aren't wrestling writers, so they don't understand how to do it. Vince probably understands how to do it, but his ego's deluded him.

The result is that rather than Rey actually getting credibility, they're unintentionally burying him by saying, week after week, that he got lucky. Fuck, they even have REY HIMSELF saying he "might lose on any week." What kind of champion is THAT unconfident? He doesn't have to be cocky, but he can at least concentrate on his hard work ethic and stress that. Why even mention you might lose?

It's little things like this that turn people off, plus all of what Alienoid mentioned about the verbal blow jobs.

Good post, Alienoid.

neuicon
05-05-2006, 04:42 PM
200 A.D.? That sounds about right.

OH SHIT!! LOL!!

2000, jerk...

UmbrellaCorporation
05-05-2006, 05:02 PM
I love you, Alienoid. Words can not begin to express how awesome/true this topic is. :heart:

St. Jimmy
05-05-2006, 05:10 PM
on a totally unrelated note, Jericho v.s. Rey title fued would save the show right about now.

Favre4Ever
05-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Here's the thing that pisses me off about Mysterio: he cannot have a feud with anybody without the heel having to become obsessivly racist. And they do it like they're talking to a little kid, and then OH SHIT MYSTERIO JUST WENT NUTS, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, BAH GAWD BIG RIGHT HANDS! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! Its almost like it happens EVERY OTHER WEEK!

The other thing is that Mysterio is the "Underdog" in every other match that he's involved in. I get it guys, he's short. But get this: he's been in the business for a long time, and he's constantly in the upper card. You can't tell me that a heel wrestler wouldn't utilize just a little bit of common sense and recognize him as legitimate to some extent.

Johnny Vegas
05-05-2006, 05:49 PM
on a totally unrelated note, Jericho v.s. Rey title fued would save the show right about now.

:drool:

Disturbed316
05-05-2006, 05:54 PM
Yeah, their cruiserweight fued in WCW was awesome.

The MAC
05-05-2006, 06:06 PM
this is fucking pathetic of the wwe. The best thing that happened to rey (sadly) is eddie buying the farm (dying). Why didnt they team Rey and chavo and give them a tag champ run? something a little more credible than making a cruiserwieght a world champion at WRESTLEMAINIA?


Rey as cruiserwieght champion ?yes!
as U.S champion meh...okay
as tag champ : okay if he had a big partner (like x-pac and razor)
as WWE champion ? not credible.



What would have happend if eddie died right in the middle of his fued with rey ? would they pull a kane storyline on us?

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 06:12 PM
200 A.D.? That sounds about right.

Come on, it's been dying since Jesus jobbed on Good Friday, but Held Judas and the Romans Down at Eastermania.

Xero
05-05-2006, 06:16 PM
Come on, it's been dying since Jesus jobbed on Good Friday, but Held Judas and the Romans Down at Eastermania.
I've heard that that was a work.

Boondock Saint
05-05-2006, 06:47 PM
Yeah, I don't really care about Rey's title reign.

Kane Knight
05-05-2006, 06:50 PM
I've heard that that was a work.

Judas said it was on the commentary, but I hear they were planning on releasing a "Damned--The Judas Story" if he didn't cooperate.

And let's face it, after the ST. Peter DVD, he was pretty sure God wasn't screwing around.

Londoner
05-05-2006, 08:00 PM
I don't like, hate or care about Mysterios title reign, I just turn the channel over whenever he comes on it because i just cant stand him now.I was all for his title reign before, but not this way.

Fox
05-05-2006, 10:41 PM
Judas said it was on the commentary, but I hear they were planning on releasing a "Damned--The Judas Story" if he didn't cooperate.

And let's face it, after the ST. Peter DVD, he was pretty sure God wasn't screwing around.


Well, shit, God owned the monopoly on heavenly figures for like... eternity! When Cain & Abel were getting over as the "Super Brothers," God forced them to do the break-up angle because his son was getting upset that the word "super" was being used in their tag team name. He claimed he could be the only "Jesus Christ Superstar."


Bada bing.

Skippord
05-05-2006, 11:04 PM
Oh Alienoid you must just be a bad apple

Mr. Nerfect
05-05-2006, 11:25 PM
Oh Alienoid you must just be a bad apple

But my arguements are NEW and INNOVATIVE. ;)

Now that SmackDown! has come and gone in the United States, I think I am right to start talking about the future of the SmackDown! brand in specifics.

Next week, Rey Mysterio will face The Great Khali in a Non-Title Match. This pisses me off for so many reasons. It is SOOOOOO damn obvious The Undertaker is going to pop his head into this match, either giving Rey the win, or saving Mysterio from a beat-down post-match. What really pisses me off about this is not only it is predictable, but that it will work.

The WWE has done a weak job of making people care about Rey Mysterio, so now they're using a part-time guy, who, much like Hulk Hogan, surprises me with his 95% positive reactions. The event is also in San Diego, so the fans are going to be rabid for The Undertaker save with Taker and Mysterio having stare-down, probably ending with The Undertaker handing Rey Mysterio the World Heavyweight belt as a sign of respect. I am going to fast-forward the main event to see if I'm right.

The only thing that keeps me going is that I honestly believe this is a temporary thing. As soon as the WWE travels a bit further, Mysterio will start getting booed. What frustrates me is that during this time where the fans would cheer Mysterio if he ate live puppies in the middle of the ring, I doubt they're going to try and use that to build Mysterio up as a Champion people have faith in.

Come Judgment Day, I am going to order because the undercard looks so damn good. But when it comes to the "main events", I am going to tune-out, because this shit is just that, shit. I hope there are "Boring!" chants during the hoss match, and I hope there are "J-B-L!" chants during the World Heavyweight Title match. I hope Booker T wins the King of the Ring Tournament and gets cheered when he faces Rey Mysterio for the title at The Great American Bash.

The WWE does such a shit job with their main eventers it makes me WANT to see them fail miserably. I'm not trying to ruin the WWE, I am a WWE fan, it's just the WWE go out of their way to fuck things up, and if that isn't their intention then they are pretty fucking stupid.

By the way, I think that first kid they showed who was shocked Henry was about to kill Mysterio with the Silsby Splash off the platform, was a very similar kid to the one who watched The Undertaker get "incinerated" at No Mercy by Randy Orton.

So summing up this post: 1) I hope the fans shit all over Rey Mysterio in coming weeks, and 2) I hope the fans shit all over Taker/Khali, actually ruining The Undertaker's respect pops, replacing them with "you lazy fuck, get on the road and start doing shit or stop wasting out time with your zombie ballerina attire" heat.

It's gotten to the stage where I want to see the WWE fail. Not because I am no longer a fan, but because they actually position me to do so.

Kane Knight
05-06-2006, 01:07 AM
It's amazing how much duct tape they're using on this championship run.

neuicon
05-06-2006, 03:40 AM
Alienoid is a fucking hero...

TerranRich
05-06-2006, 10:51 AM
Judas said it was on the commentary, but I hear they were planning on releasing a "Damned--The Judas Story" if he didn't cooperate.

And let's face it, after the ST. Peter DVD, he was pretty sure God wasn't screwing around.
Judas didn't screw Judas. JESUS screwed Judas. There is a thing called professionalism in this business...

St. Jimmy
05-06-2006, 11:14 AM
I don't see Rey retaining at Judgement Day...

Kane Knight
05-06-2006, 11:28 AM
Judas didn't screw Judas. JESUS screwed Judas. There is a thing called professionalism in this business...

Jesus was just following order from the top. Besides, Judas could have just accepted that Jesus refusing to drop the title was because Judas had done the same thing at "Backstab IV"

TerranRich
05-06-2006, 12:10 PM
I can just hear the Mary Magdalene "slut" chants now...

Mr. Nerfect
05-06-2006, 09:15 PM
I don't see Rey retaining at Judgement Day...

Unfortunately, I do.

Am I the only one who really wouldn't mind it if JBL went over Rey Mysterio at Judgment Day, then presented Mark Henry with the WWE United States Championship? It would be very similiar to how Mark Henry became WWE European Champion, which is probably why I like it.

Henry as a Champion seems like a bad move, but with him being the one responsible for Batista and Kurt Angle being written out of storylines, a Gunner Scott or Paul Burchill title win from Henry would be huge for their careers.

I see Rey Mysterio winning and dropping the title to Booker T at The Great American Bash, though. Booker T is on top of the world until Batista comes back, and at Summerslam, the sixth World Title reign of Booker T comes to an end. Or Booker T gets himself disqualified, so he can outlast Shawn Michaels and Randy Orton in terms of reign length, only for Batista to get the big gold belt back at No Mercy.

The One
05-06-2006, 09:23 PM
Am I the only one who really wouldn't mind it if JBL went over Rey Mysterio at Judgment Day...

Wouldn't mind? Hell, I would jump for joy to see JBL get the belt again!

WWE Champion JBL = Ratings...and don't bother pointing out that he didn't bring in the ratings when was Champ, because that would be dealing with numbers and facts...and like all great Americans (Colbert, JBL, Bush) I don't care about facts...I FEEL like he brings in ratings, and that's what counts.

The One
05-06-2006, 09:24 PM
Double post

Mr. Nerfect
05-06-2006, 09:59 PM
I was 100% on JBL's side on SmackDown!. Michael Cole's constant babblings about how America is about the underdog, didn't help. America is about being on top and bullying other countries into doing what they want. JBL embodies that well, and he's completely honest and forthcoming about it. Hence my constant face support.

Kane Knight
05-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Yeah.

America was originally colonised by two classes of people: The ones who owned other folks, and the ones that were owned. It was really not a good place. Of course, you came over here in hopes of opportunity--But we've been listening to that promise for years.

Who were our founding fathers? Rich white guys. Landowners all. Hell, they were people who frowned upon democracy (Rule by Rabble). There's nothing "underdog" about America--The most the underdog ever gets is an acknolwedgement that they have some rights...

But Cole was tyring to play to stupid patriots, the guys who tell folks like Hassan to "Go back where [he] came from." Mouthbreathers who think this is the greatest country in the world simply because we have freedoms (Which only apply to him, not everyone inconvenient).

This is why I hate "Patriotic" angles in the first place. They're an insult to our intelligence--Not as "smarts" or as the "intellectual elite" but as anyone with more than one pair of brian cells.

I'd argue, actually, that JBL is the model American. He's a rich white guy who's been successful, is a total ass, and flaunts the American dream (Which really does not work). And bringing in immigrants is so stupid--Sure, it's a hot topic issue, but when you're appealing to a primarily white fanbase, making the fans react by identifying with the minority is pretty dumb.

DaveWadding
05-07-2006, 01:46 PM
The obvious answer is to put the belt on Val Venis.

Kane Knight
05-07-2006, 03:43 PM
"You know, the Big Valboski and out founding fathers have a lot in common. We've stuck it to a lot of people, made it big on the backs of others, and we made it hand over fist."

Nark Order
05-07-2006, 03:46 PM
Has it occurred to anybody that Mysterio is one of the hardest working guys in professional wrestling history? Cut the dude a break. I'm actually intruiged by this title run. I want to see where they go with it.

Kane Knight
05-07-2006, 04:21 PM
Wow. I knew it was only a matter of time before we ended up with Mysterio apologists.

The One
05-07-2006, 04:37 PM
Do you know how many people could easily fall into the catagory of "One of the Hardest Working People"??? Hell, if everyone who busted their ass for years got the belt we would have Lodi or Elix Skipper or John Kronus or Shark Boy be World Champion. Who's to say Rey did or didn't work harder then any one of them. Hard work does not marrit a unholy hyped WrestleMania World Title win. Call a spade a spade, if Eddie Guerrero wouldn't have died, Rey Mysterio would have been lucky to hold the United States Title. Rey took Eddie death, agree'd to run with defending his honor while people talk about him burning in hell, and made a World Title run out of a terrible situation that never would have presented itself. Not only do I not like him, I think he is not a credible champ, and in the process of getting there he road his dead friend's momentum to further himself.

My dream is if 10 people got together and held up huge signs that say..

"WE" "CHANT" "EDDIE" "OUT" "OF" "RESPECT" "FOR" "HIM" "NOT" "YOU!"

Kane Knight
05-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Do you know how many people could easily fall into the catagory of "One of the Hardest Working People"??? Hell, if everyone who busted their ass for years got the belt we would have Lodi or Elix Skipper or John Kronus or Shark Boy be World Champion. Who's to say Rey did or didn't work harder then any one of them. Hard work does not marrit a unholy hyped WrestleMania World Title win. Call a spade a spade, if Eddie Guerrero wouldn't have died, Rey Mysterio would have been lucky to hold the United States Title. Rey took Eddie death, agree'd to run with defending his honor while people talk about him burning in hell, and made a World Title run out of a terrible situation that never would have presented itself. Not only do I not like him, I think he is not a credible champ, and in the process of getting there he road his dead friend's momentum to further himself.

My dream is if 10 people got together and held up huge signs that say..

"WE" "CHANT" "EDDIE" "OUT" "OF" "RESPECT" "FOR" "HIM" "NOT" "YOU!"

Isn't "call a spade a spade" more appropriate for black people? :nono: Man, you let me down. :shifty:

Anyway, I'm down for the sign bit.

TerranRich
05-08-2006, 10:14 AM
I'll be the "OF"! :D

Kane Knight
05-08-2006, 11:08 AM
I'm large. I'll do Respect. :shifty:

Londoner
05-08-2006, 11:13 AM
But my arguements are NEW and INNOVATIVE. ;)

Now that SmackDown! has come and gone in the United States, I think I am right to start talking about the future of the SmackDown! brand in specifics.

Next week, Rey Mysterio will face The Great Khali in a Non-Title Match. This pisses me off for so many reasons. It is SOOOOOO damn obvious The Undertaker is going to pop his head into this match, either giving Rey the win, or saving Mysterio from a beat-down post-match. What really pisses me off about this is not only it is predictable, but that it will work.

The WWE has done a weak job of making people care about Rey Mysterio, so now they're using a part-time guy, who, much like Hulk Hogan, surprises me with his 95% positive reactions. The event is also in San Diego, so the fans are going to be rabid for The Undertaker save with Taker and Mysterio having stare-down, probably ending with The Undertaker handing Rey Mysterio the World Heavyweight belt as a sign of respect. I am going to fast-forward the main event to see if I'm right.

The only thing that keeps me going is that I honestly believe this is a temporary thing. As soon as the WWE travels a bit further, Mysterio will start getting booed. What frustrates me is that during this time where the fans would cheer Mysterio if he ate live puppies in the middle of the ring, I doubt they're going to try and use that to build Mysterio up as a Champion people have faith in.

Come Judgment Day, I am going to order because the undercard looks so damn good. But when it comes to the "main events", I am going to tune-out, because this shit is just that, shit. I hope there are "Boring!" chants during the hoss match, and I hope there are "J-B-L!" chants during the World Heavyweight Title match. I hope Booker T wins the King of the Ring Tournament and gets cheered when he faces Rey Mysterio for the title at The Great American Bash.

The WWE does such a shit job with their main eventers it makes me WANT to see them fail miserably. I'm not trying to ruin the WWE, I am a WWE fan, it's just the WWE go out of their way to fuck things up, and if that isn't their intention then they are pretty fucking stupid.

By the way, I think that first kid they showed who was shocked Henry was about to kill Mysterio with the Silsby Splash off the platform, was a very similar kid to the one who watched The Undertaker get "incinerated" at No Mercy by Randy Orton.

So summing up this post: 1) I hope the fans shit all over Rey Mysterio in coming weeks, and 2) I hope the fans shit all over Taker/Khali, actually ruining The Undertaker's respect pops, replacing them with "you lazy fuck, get on the road and start doing shit or stop wasting out time with your zombie ballerina attire" heat.

It's gotten to the stage where I want to see the WWE fail. Not because I am no longer a fan, but because they actually position me to do so.

Excellent post.I completely agree with it.

happylad
05-08-2006, 03:40 PM
I have a question .. is Chavo definetly gone? I would love to see him return at judgement day to end the "fairytale" story. Its exactly the way they would give JBL the title an interference so that Mysterio never lost in a fair fight.
Chavo can cost Rey the title because hes only because of his cousins death. It doesnt stop the Eddie stories but it ends Mysterios reign and puts him in a credible rivalry with Chavo. The only problem is JBL holding US and WHC. He could possibly hand it to Chavo as a thank you :-\ or maybe lose it in run up to JD:-\

Harry Peters
05-09-2006, 03:10 AM
I HATE Rey. Orton for champ :D

Kane Knight
05-09-2006, 09:25 AM
I have a question .. is Chavo definetly gone? I would love to see him return at judgement day to end the "fairytale" story. Its exactly the way they would give JBL the title an interference so that Mysterio never lost in a fair fight.
Chavo can cost Rey the title because hes only because of his cousins death. It doesnt stop the Eddie stories but it ends Mysterios reign and puts him in a credible rivalry with Chavo. The only problem is JBL holding US and WHC. He could possibly hand it to Chavo as a thank you :-\ or maybe lose it in run up to JD:-\


Yeah, a lot of people are hoping to see Chavo, but he's been all but forgotten. Yeah, the last Guerrero gets jobbed out and quits, while his "friend" milks his name and gets a shitty title reign.

TerranRich
05-09-2006, 10:31 AM
EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE!

Oh, wait, isn't that Rey down there?

NO! STFU!! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE! EDDIE!

Kane Knight
05-21-2006, 06:02 PM
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/feature/29062/2671438

Sorry to bump this thread, but look at this (Hopefully not a red X) image to hype Rey v JBL. Fucking A, could they make Rey look more hopeless?

Skippord
05-21-2006, 06:11 PM
He looks like he is humping the belt

happylad
05-21-2006, 06:15 PM
Yeah, a lot of people are hoping to see Chavo, but he's been all but forgotten. Yeah, the last Guerrero gets jobbed out and quits, while his "friend" milks his name and gets a shitty title reign.
I still hold out slight hope hell turn up in a somewhat inventive storyline shocker :nono:

SammyG
05-21-2006, 06:16 PM
What is Chavo doing with Rey Mysterio in the smackdown locker room? Cole report! I hope Chavo screws Rey. Like, costing him the belt type of screwing.

happylad
05-21-2006, 06:20 PM
What is Chavo doing with Rey Mysterio in the smackdown locker room? Cole report! I hope Chavo screws Rey. Like, costing him the belt type of screwing.
Thats what i said above ^^^^^^^

Kane Knight
05-21-2006, 06:23 PM
I still hold out slight hope hell turn up in a somewhat inventive storyline shocker :nono:

Freudian slip? ;)

Considering Hell will freeze over before he does...:D

happylad
05-21-2006, 06:25 PM
Freudian slip? ;)

Considering Hell will freeze over before he does...:D well see :shifty: i predict Hassan will come back in a Zombie Hassan persona to screw Tkaer and form Khali Daivari Hassan super team :shifty: