NCAA Football 2006 Thread

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Michigan beat Wisconsin and ND, two top 10 BSC teams. I dunno their schedule really wasn't THAT easy. I am getting kind of tired of all the SEC stuff, yeah the SEC is harder but its not like the other conferences out there are cake walks or something. Its not like Michigan played in the WAC or something, they played in the Big Ten with their only loss coming to the #1 team in the nation.

USC, Michigan and Florida all have legitimate claims at the #2 spot, but only one of them will get it. Way to go BCS

[BCWWF]

If that is in reference to me, I don't think Florida should get a shot just because they are in the SEC. I just think that Florida, USC and Michigan are all a toss up. I personally think USC is the worst of the three, and I just don't care to see a rematch. This is just so stupid.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Florida screwed themselves over by not only scheduling a 1-AA team at the end of the year, but a terrible 1-AA team as well.

USC beat FOUR teams in the BCS 25. And whoever said they should be punished because they lost to Oregon State should look at the BCS standings too because the Beavers are on it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Do you really think Florida is better then USC? I don't know man, they've struggled the last few weeks and those impressive games againest teams like Alabama, Georgia, FSU and Auburn don't look so impressive now. I think people forget that USC dropped 50 points on Arkansas, I don't want to hear it about Arkansas's tailback not being 100% USC didn't even have a returning tailback (Loss of Bush and White?) or a quaterback (BCWWF, you didn't even know who their QB was after he dropped 50 on Arkansas) Personally I fucking hate USC, but I think its either them or Michigan.

[BCWWF]

USC struggled against team's much worse than Bama, Georgia, FSU and Auburn though. And to say that USC beating Arkansas was a big game is a huge overstatement. Arkansas wasn't even on the map at that point, and had a bunch of injuries. I just picked Florida at the beginning, and I still like them. I don't think they will get it though, at this point I would be shocked if ti wasn't USC.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Had a bunch of injuries? A lot of people say they have the best 1-2 combo in the nation and their injuried tailback still had almost 60 yards rushing in the game :-\ Arkansas wasn't on the map yet because people didn't realize how good they where going to be, that doesn't mean they weren't good at the time. I guess right now you could say the 2 teams are equal if you look at them head to head, I think a lot of traditionally good teams being shitty this year is hurting Florida though (like Georgia, Bama and FSU...Auburn isn't exactly lighting the World fire either) USC has the Oregon State loss too though so I dunno. After watching both teams I think USC would be a better match up. I think Tim Tebow is a homo (I hate home schooled kids)

If anyone should be bitching though, it should be Oklahoma, especially if Oklahoma wins the Big 12 Championship.

[BCWWF]

Yeah when the Oregon thing happened, I thought it didn't matter because I expected the Sooners to have maybe a 9-3 record at best. They definitely did get screwed in the long run, although they clearly aren't on the level of USC, Michigan and Florida, IMO. Texas was the best team in the Big 12 and they blew it because of injuries late in the season. Especially without Adrian Peterson, I don't think Oklahoma is even top 5 in the nation, despite their record.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah if they handle their biz they will still get a BCS bowl, but you never know if they went into the last week with only 1 loss who knows what people would be saying now.

[BCWWF]

Yeah, also sucks for OU because Texas definitely is going to be back next year. OU vs. Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl probably, not quite the natty champs.

[BCWWF]

BCS Predictions:
BCS National Championship:
Ohio State vs. USC

Rose Bowl:
Michigan vs. LSU

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma vs. Boise State

Sugar Bowl:
Florida vs. Notre Dame

Orange Bowl:
Wake Forest vs. Rutgers

Following teams get screwed: Wisconsin, Arkansas and Louisville to an extent.

[RP]

I think USC is getting upset by UCLA. Michigan vs OSU in the National title game.

USC vs Florida Rose Bowl

Oklahoma vs ND Fiesta

Boise St vs Rutgers Sugar Bowl

Wake Forest vs LSU Orange bowl

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If people where seriously talkingabout Arkansas for the National Championship game (before their 2nd loss) even though they lost by like 40 to USC, I bet people would be talking about Oklahoma being deserving of a shot since they only had one 7 point loss to Texas.

Maybe not though, since Wisconsin was never even mentioned in the title game situation.

The Capital One bowl is basically going to be another BCS Bowl game though, Wisconsin vs Florida or Arkansas

[Joey Slugs]

The best bowl game might be the Capital One Bowl on Jan. 1st.

Wisconsin v the SEC #2

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm looking foward to Boise State going up againest Oklahoma. Last time I remember them being a tough oppopent like Oklahoma they got destoried (@Georgia)

[BCWWF]

That is because Wisconsin clearly isn't on the level of Michigan or Ohio State. A great team, of course, but they didn't have the toughest schedule this year.

[BCWWF]

Also, if Florida isn't in the BCS game, aren't they obligated to be in the Sugar Bowl? I think the Sugar Bowl would shit a brick if they gave up an SEC team for an independent and a Big East team.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

They might give up their chance for a SEC team if they can get Norte Dame

[Joey Slugs]

Also, if Florida isn't in the BCS game, aren't they obligated to be in the Sugar Bowl? I think the Sugar Bowl would shit a brick if they gave up an SEC team for an independent and a Big East team.
The Sugar Bowl gets the SEC #1.

Whoever that may be.

These are the projections from SI.com

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[BCWWF]

The Big 12 bowl situation is all fucked up now, because the Gator and Sun Bowls have weird plans where they don't have to pick teams and what not, so it looks like we, an 8 win team, might be going to the Insight Bowl to play a 6 win team. We should be in the Alamo Bowl, at the worst the Sun Bowl, but the way shit works out, Insight Bowl might be ours. Meh.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Why does the ACC #3 play in the Gator Bowl and not the #2? That doesn't make sense to me.

[BCWWF]

The Gator Bowl is super fucked up. This isn't the whole scenario, but part of it.

In the next four years, it has to choose a Big 12 team twice. When it does, it will be Big 12 #4 I believe. It does, however, have a one time clause where it can jump ahead of the Cotton Bowl and take Big 12 #2. So this year, if the Gator Bowl was smart it would jump in and take Texas, but it will probably be stupid and take one of the Big East team's since this is as good as that conference gets this year.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ND is lucky they have so many fans, right now they are eligable for a BCS game but aren't guaranteed. I personally don't think they deserve a BCS game, the 2 games they had againest other BCS teams they got their asses handed to them. Since they travel well, and their fans get the most hotel rooms, buy the most merchandise they'll be in a BCS game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I find it funny that Miami is playing Nevada in the MPC Computers Bowl in Boise, Idaho. It just doesn't seem right.

[BCWWF]

Is that for sure? If so, Miami on the smurf turf is going to be weird.

[BCWWF]

Also, there are more deserving teams than ND, is Rutgers beats UWV, then Louisville is getting screwed. Can't you only have two teams from a conference? If so, Arkansas and Wisconsin are getting screwed.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yup its a fact, accepted yesterday. Nevada's offense is crazy too, I think they call it the Pistol or something. QB in a short shotgun with a the tailback lined up behind him like in the regular I. Looks real weird

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

LSU is playing in the Rose Bowl, still a rumor I guess but its pretty much a given now

[BCWWF]

Yeah, I think it is pretty much

Ohio State vs. USC in the Nat Champ
Michigan vs. LSU/Florida in the Rose
Oklahoma vs. Boise in the Fiesta
SEC Champ vs. Notre Dame in the Sugar
ACC Champ vs. Big East Champ in the Orange

[RP]

UCLA UPSETS USC THIS WEEK. MARK IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 24-21 UCLA.

[BCWWF]

What do you think would happen if USC did lose? Florida or Michigan?

[RP]

Michigan

[Joey Slugs]

LSU going to the Rose?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/ncaa/11/30/lsu.rose/index.html

[RP]

How does LSU jump Arkansas or Florida, especially Florida if they lose.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

No clue, maybe because they travel well?? Makes no sense to me, figured Arkansas and Florida would both the 2 teams getting BCS bids out of the SEC. Now if Florida loses they are out of the BCS, wow.

[BCWWF]

I am kind of expecting Arkansas to get blown out.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Actaully LSU beat Arkansas right? I guess that's why

I dunno, kinda fucked up. Why don't they just wait and see what happens in the SEC title game and then decide?

[RoXer]

DO IT UCLA

[RoXer]

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RUSH THAT FIELD BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYS

[McLegend]

UCLA is gonna win

[Skippord]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

INT

[RoXer]

HAHAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE IT

I love when people talk about BCS games and their matchups with like 5 weeks left and the games haven't even been played yet.

Betcha Florida loses too (probly not) to really fuck us up

[BCWWF]

That wouldn't fuck it up at all, because Michigan would be the only other team. It is going to be interesting to see how Florida and Michigan are placed next week. Also, if OU beats Nebraska pretty handily they should be ranked No. 4 after this week.

[BCWWF]

Also, this is the best Big 12 Championship game matchup since OU and K-State in whatever year that was. The crowd is big, two programs great for traveling are there, and it looks like this years game is sold out. I don't think CU and OU sold out two years ago, when CU got blown out. They should keep the Big 12 championships in Oklahoma City and Kansas City though, it's stupid to have stuff in Dallas when those two cities are right int he middle.

[BCWWF]

HAHAHA, fuck you Huskers. Cool that they tried something cool on the first play, glad it got canned though. This should be Mizzou vs. Oklahoma, we fucked that up.

HAHAHAHA, Purify just fumbled and OU has the ball on the three after ONE play.

[Splaya]

I never didnt think Florida couldn't be in the national title game, I just think they are grossly overrated.

I'm so glad that UCLA won though.

[BCWWF]

How are they grossly overrated though? I mean unless you think the whole SEC is overrated.

[Crimson]

UCLA shoulda been cheering to lose..now they'll have that shitty coach Dorrell for another season, lol

[Splaya]

Flordia has terrible management of the clock. Leak is so overrated. The defense is terrible. And if you say that Florida losing to Auburn a better matchup of Michigan losing to OSU, you are on crack.

[BCWWF]

Michigan's only loss was to the best team, but on the same token, Florida beat a lot more good teams than Michigan.

That isn't the important thing though. Michigan has already showed that they can not beat Ohio State. If Michigan beats Ohio State in the BCS Title Game, who is the national champions?

[Nervous Ferret]

Here we go Rutgerssssssssssssssssssss

[BCWWF]

So it looks like the BCS teams are going to be:
Ohio State
Michigan
Florida
Oklahoma
USC
Rutgers
Wake Forest
*Louisville
*LSU
*Boise State
*Notre Dame

*And then one of these teams is going to miss out. Notre Dame or Boise St. could automatically be in, based on the final polls, so it looks like it would be Louisville that would get the short end of the stick.

If Louisville misses out though, then the Gator Bowl will probably go Big East and take them this year, and Mizzou can go to the Sun Bowl instead of the shitty Insight Bowl. The Insight Bowl would be cool because we'd be playing Minnesota, but it would be a horrible matchup, they are just awful, and the only TV it is on is the NFL Network. Fuck that.

[RoXer]

USC goes to the Rose Bowl.

[RoXer]

nevrmind you edited it

[BCWWF]

BCS Championship Game
No. 1 Ohio State vs. No. 2 Florida

Rose Bowl
No. 3 Michigan vs. No. 6 USC

Fiesta Bowl
No. 4 Oklahoma vs. No. 8 Boise State

Sugar Bowl
No. 5 LSU vs. No. 9 Notre Dame

Orange Bowl
No. 16 Wake Forest vs. No. 10 Rutgers


I honestly think that Florida is going to get the nod for the national championship. I don't really like the matchup between LSU and Notre Dame if it happens, such different styles of football, but if those are the teams that is probably who it'd be.

[RP]

I think USC is getting upset by UCLA. Michigan vs OSU in the National title game.

USC vs Florida Rose Bowl

Oklahoma vs ND Fiesta

Boise St vs Rutgers Sugar Bowl

Wake Forest vs LSU Orange bowl

:kiss:

[James Steele]

Michigan's only loss was to the best team, but on the same token, Florida beat a lot more good teams than Michigan.

That isn't the important thing though. Michigan has already showed that they can not beat Ohio State. If Michigan beats Ohio State in the BCS Title Game, who is the national champions?

Michigan would be National Champions. Just like in any other scenario, a win when it counts more than a loss that doesn't. I believe Michigan shouldn't get another game against Ohio State even if they are "the only team left". Personally, I think OU should be in the National Championship game since the Oregon game was a chickenshit loss.

[RP]

Michigan would be National Champions. Just like in any other scenario, a win when it counts more than a loss that doesn't. I believe Michigan shouldn't get another game against Ohio State even if they are "the only team left". Personally, I think OU should be in the National Championship game since the Oregon game was a chickenshit loss.

Problem with that is that the BCS bills every regular season game as a playoff game. Thats there excuse not to have a playoff. They tell people that every game should be considered a playoff, because if you lose, you have no chance at a BCS bowl. That being said, they probably dont want Michigan to be in the National Title game. Also, whats that say to Ohio St. " Hey you beat Michigan once already, but if you want to be champions, you gotta beat them again ". That makes no sense.

I want to see Michigan vs Ohio St. again in the title game, but that doesnt make it fair. Michigan lost. They had there shot and given the system that is provided, they shouldnt get another shot. Someone else should and i think that someone should be Florida. Ohio St. would stomp Florida's ass, but still.

[RP]

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=AsA8GHS2JLo8AiZ0mw4yGZc5nYcB?slug=dw-secchampionship120206&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Great colum by Dan Wetzel

I'm getting pissed thinking about this whole thing.

BTW, Florida President released a statement that i heard on the radio and found funny. I'll look for it.

[RP]

"If they don't vote for us after tonight, we need a new system," Florida President Bernie Machen said after the game. "We should be packing our bags for Glendale."

:lol:

But if they do vote Florida, that system is GREAAAAAAAAAT!

What a joke. Talk about being a selfish prick. We need a new system period, not just if Florida doesnt make it. Fucking asshole.

[BCWWF]

I don't look at the national championship as a championship game as in the Super Bowl or the World Series. The Super Bowl and the World Series crown a champion, but the point of the BCS National Championship is to name the best team in college football. The Super Bowl names a champion. To get to the BCS game, you can't go 8-4 and do well in the playoffs. You either have to go undefeated or awful close. I don't know how you can say that Michigan is the best team in college football if they beat a team that has already beat them.

[BCWWF]

Also, I don't believe that the BCS system is as messed up as other people. Yeah, it would be cool to have the playoffs and everything, but with the BCS, absolutely every game counts. If you are 10-0 and have the division wrapped up, you can't give your best guys a rest and afford a loss, and you know that is what would happen. I would say that 9 times out of 10 the BCS gets it right, and the BCS champion can legitimately be considered the champion of college football.

The other argument is that getting rid of this system would get rid of the bowl system, and while that sounds good in a way, I don't think it is. The most they can possibly have is a 16 team playoffs, starting next week and ending the first week of January. So now you have 16 teams, what about the other 40 or so teams that go to bowls? That is a major source of cash for the schools and allows teams to play cool teams that they would otherwise never schedule.

And going back to my last post, having a playoff doesn't name you the best team in college football. Having a playoff gets you the best team in the playoffs. Were the Pittsburgh Steelers the best team in football last year? Absolutely not, but they were the Super Bowl Champions. Were the Texas Longhorns the best team in college football, I think you can say yes. That is why I think the system works. It gets you the best single matchup in college football, no underdog shit, and it makes the whole season count. If Florida doesn't get in there this year, you can bet that there are going to be a lot better non-conference games in the future.

[Kris P Lettus]

Florida should play Ohio State after that win last night..

Crazy games yesterday..

SEC>*

[RP]

No ones beating OSU

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[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also, I don't believe that the BCS system is as messed up as other people. Yeah, it would be cool to have the playoffs and everything, but with the BCS, absolutely every game counts. If you are 10-0 and have the division wrapped up, you can't give your best guys a rest and afford a loss, and you know that is what would happen. I would say that 9 times out of 10 the BCS gets it right, and the BCS champion can legitimately be considered the champion of college football.

The other argument is that getting rid of this system would get rid of the bowl system, and while that sounds good in a way, I don't think it is. The most they can possibly have is a 16 team playoffs, starting next week and ending the first week of January. So now you have 16 teams, what about the other 40 or so teams that go to bowls? That is a major source of cash for the schools and allows teams to play cool teams that they would otherwise never schedule.

And going back to my last post, having a playoff doesn't name you the best team in college football. Having a playoff gets you the best team in the playoffs. Were the Pittsburgh Steelers the best team in football last year? Absolutely not, but they were the Super Bowl Champions. Were the Texas Longhorns the best team in college football, I think you can say yes. That is why I think the system works. It gets you the best single matchup in college football, no underdog shit, and it makes the whole season count. If Florida doesn't get in there this year, you can bet that there are going to be a lot better non-conference games in the future.
lol

You get way too deep into your thoughts sometimes - its football. The team that wins is the best team. If you tear it up in the regular season but then in the NFL playoffs you can't win when you're the "better team" then you really aren't the better team then.

I don't get how Michigan got worse while not playing a game :?: I mean Florida played a much tougher schedule but I thought the BCS was about finding the 2 best teams? I think Michigan is better team then Florida

I'm taking a playoff system all day over the BCS, I dunno how you can even consider the champion decided by a computer better then letting them decide it on the field. Every game doesn't really count though, since a few 1 loss teams are gonna be on the outside looking in. Who is the better team out of those 1 loss teams? Out of like the 10 people talking about on this board we are all split on who is better.

[RoXer]

It would help a lot if top 10 teams schedualed more non-conference games against other top 10 teams.

[DrA]

Wow, Texas playing in the Alamo Bowl against Iowa. That's sure a lot better than playing in some stinky BCS game.

[BCWWF]

The champion isn't decided by a computer, that is just stupid rhetoric. Whoever wins the BCS National Championship is the champion.

So is the "How did Michigan get worse" argument. They did not get worse, they simple had their chance to beat Ohio State, and now an equally talented Florida team that played the hardest schedule in NCAA football this season is going ot get that opportunity. What has Michigan done that makes them deserving of a rematch when Florida had an equally as strong season?


And I don't know how you can argue that the team who wins a playoff is the best team in a sport. If you want the national champion to be determined by a playoff, that is one thing, but you have to accept that that drastically changes the system. In European soccer, they don't have playoffs to name the champion, because the best team is determined by the regular season. That is basically how college football is set up.

Look at baseball. The Yankees were the best team in baseball all season, the Cardinals were probably not even in the top 10. Then they win the playoffs, so they are World Series champions, but they aren't the best team in the league. That is how college football is, the best two teams, as determined by 12 games, face off in the national championship. Not a bunch of good teams get thrown into a mix to determine who is playing the best in the last couple weeks.

[DrA]

Where can I get a list of all the bowl games being listed?

[BCWWF]

Collegefootballnews.com is a good site, I assume it has them up

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Letting them decide who is better on the field > deciding who is better by looking at the roster/record/schedule and just guessing

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You cannot compare the soccer format to college football. Soccer leagues have 20 teams who all play against each other over a roughly 40 game span. You cannot say that system is the same as 119 football teams playing somewhere between 10 and 14 games and saying that has accurately determined who the best teams are in college.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also how can you say playoffs don't determine who the best team is as well as the BCS format? For that to be true that suggests that the best teams always win during the regular season which obviously doesn't happen. How can you say Florida is better than Michigan, Louisville, or Boise State? Who is to say that Florida wouldn't have lost to Notre Dame, Wisconsin and Ohio State if they played Michigan's schedule?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It makes the regular season count!!

I guess winning games during the regular season doesn't count in any other sports, since you know, every single team makes the playoffs...

[Kris P Lettus]

WOOOOOOOOOOO

GO Florida!!1!

As an Ole Miss fan, that pained me to say..

SEC>*

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Florida is gonna have to be hopeful the long lay off for Ohio State is going to hurt them because if Ohio State comes out and plays their game no way Florida will be able to stop them. If Michigan (who has the best defense in the country IMO, wait and see how many guys from that D are playing on Sundays in a few years) couldn't stop them, I don't think anyone can.

Michigan vs Ohio State probably would have been a better game, atleast I think so, but Michigan already got their shot (although that isn't how the BCS is suppose to work but alright) so lets see if Florida can prove me wrong.

[BCWWF]

It makes the regular season count!!

I guess winning games during the regular season doesn't count in any other sports, since you know, every single team makes the playoffs...

Team's with losing records have consistantly gotten into the NBA playoffs in the past couple years. There are only five teams in the NBA Eastern Conference that have winning records right now, and nobody in the Atlantic Division has a winning record. If the NFL playoffs started today, a .500 NFC team would make it.

So how can you tell me that all of these teams are deserving of making the playoffs? How can you say that the quality of sport isn't decreased by the top team's knowing that they don't have to play their best, because the playoffs are almost a joke to get into?

But just think about it, if there was a playoff system in place, then USC losing to UCLA would have been just a stupid game. Nobody would have cared, win or lose, USC would still have a chance at the national title. But since the whole season is like a playoff, it was one of the most important games of the year, and USC losing it ended everything. That is why this system works.

I am not completely opposed to a playoff system, but I really don't think there are more than four teams on a given year that are deserving of a chance at the BCS national title. Ohio State, Florida, Michigan and probably USC or LSU would be the team's this year.

[James Steele]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2473969

Entire Bowl Game Schedule (in order of time and date):

The 2006-07 bowl lineup will start in San Diego and end in Glendale, Ariz. Here's a look at the schedule from the Poinsettia Bowl to the BCS Championship Game.
All times Eastern

<table class="ilt" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%"> <tbody><tr><td colspan="5" class="stathead">2006-07 College Football Bowl Schedule</td></tr> <tr class="colhead" valign="top"> <td>BOWL</td> <td>DATE/TIME</td> <td>NETWORK</td> <td>TICKETS</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia
TCU vs. Northern Illinois </td> <td> Dec. 19, 8 p.m.
San Diego </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=poinsettia+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Pioneer PureVision Las Vegas
BYU vs. Oregon </td> <td> Dec. 21, 8 p.m.
Las Vegas </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=las+vegas+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Rice vs. Troy </td> <td> Dec. 22, 8 p.m.
New Orleans </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=new+orleans+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Papajohns.com Bowl
South Florida vs. East Carolina </td> <td> Dec. 23, 1 p.m.
Birmingham, Ala. </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=papajohns+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> New Mexico
New Mexico vs. San Jose State </td> <td> Dec. 23, 4:30 p.m.
Albuquerque, N.M. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=new+mexico+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Tulsa vs. Utah </td> <td> Dec. 23, 8 p.m.
Fort Worth, Texas </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=armed+forces+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Sheraton Hawaii
Arizona State vs. Hawaii </td> <td> Dec. 24, 8 p.m.
Honolulu </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=hawaii+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Motor City
Middle Tennessee vs. Central Michigan </td> <td> Dec. 26, 7:30 p.m.
Detroit </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=motor+city+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Emerald
Florida State vs. UCLA </td> <td> Dec. 27, 8 p.m.
San Francisco </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=emerald+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> PetroSun Independence
Oklahoma State vs. Alabama </td> <td> Dec. 28, 4:30 p.m.
Shreveport, La. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=independence+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Pacific Life Holiday
California vs. Texas A&M </td> <td> Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
San Diego </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=holiday+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Texas
Rutgers vs. Kansas State </td> <td> Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
Houston </td> <td> NFL Network </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=texas+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Gaylord Hotels Music City
Clemson vs. Kentucky </td> <td> Dec. 29, 1 p.m.
Nashville, Tenn. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td>Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=music+city+bowl+tickets&rT=sports)</td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Brut Sun
Oregon State vs. Missouri </td> <td> Dec. 29, 2 p.m.
El Paso, Texas </td> <td> CBS </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=sun+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> AutoZone Liberty
Houston vs. South Carolina </td> <td> Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m.
Memphis, Tenn. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=liberty+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Insight
Texas Tech vs. Minnesota </td> <td> Dec. 29, 7:30 p.m.
Tempe, Ariz. </td> <td> NFL Network </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=insight+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Champs Sports
Purdue vs. Maryland </td> <td> Dec. 29, 8 p.m.
Orlando, Fla. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=champs+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Meineke Car Care
Navy vs. Boston College </td> <td> Dec. 30, 1 p.m.
Charlotte, N.C. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=meineke+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Alamo
Texas vs. Iowa </td> <td> Dec. 30, 4:30 p.m.
San Antonio </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=alamo+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Chick-fil-A
Georgia vs. Virginia Tech </td> <td> Dec. 30, 8 p.m.
Atlanta </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=chick-fil-a+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> MPC Computers
Miami, Fla. vs. Nevada </td> <td> Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m.
Boise, Idaho </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=mpc+computers+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Outback
Tennessee vs. Penn State </td> <td> Jan. 1, 11 a.m.
Tampa, Fla. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=outback+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> AT&T Cotton
Auburn vs. Nebraska </td> <td> Jan. 1, 11:30 a.m.
Dallas </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=cotton+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Toyota Gator
West Virginia vs. Georgia Tech </td> <td> Jan. 1, 1 p.m.
Jacksonville, Fla. </td> <td> CBS </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=capital+one+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Capital One
Arkansas vs. Wisconsin </td> <td> Jan. 1, 1 p.m.
Orlando, Fla. </td> <td> ABC HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=gator+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Rose Bowl presented by Citi
USC vs. Michigan </td> <td> Jan. 1, 5 p.m.
Pasadena, Calif. </td> <td> ABC HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=rose+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Tostitos Fiesta
Boise State vs. Oklahoma </td> <td> Jan. 1, 8 p.m.
Glendale, Ariz. </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=fiesta+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> FedEx Orange
Louisville vs. Wake Forest </td> <td> Jan. 2, 8 p.m.
Miami </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=orange+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> Allstate Sugar
Notre Dame vs. LSU </td> <td> Jan. 3, 8 p.m.
New Orleans </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=sugar+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> International
Cincinnati vs. Western Michigan </td> <td> Jan. 6, Noon
Toronto </td> <td> ESPN2 HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=international+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="oddrow" valign="top"> <td> GMAC
Ohio vs. Southern Miss </td> <td> Jan. 7, 8 p.m.
Mobile, Ala. </td> <td> ESPN HD </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=gmac+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr><tr class="evenrow" valign="top"> <td> Tostitos BCS Championship Game
Florida vs. Ohio State </td> <td> Jan. 8, 8 p.m.
Glendale, Ariz. </td> <td> FOX </td> <td> Buy Tickets (http://sports.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=bcs+bowl+tickets&rT=sports) </td> </tr></tbody></table>
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[BCWWF]

Even though we're in a shitty bowl, I am glad, because we've got a good opponent. No. 24 Oregon State > four wins against D1A Minnesota.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Team's with losing records have consistantly gotten into the NBA playoffs in the past couple years. There are only five teams in the NBA Eastern Conference that have winning records right now, and nobody in the Atlantic Division has a winning record. If the NFL playoffs started today, a .500 NFC team would make it.

So how can you tell me that all of these teams are deserving of making the playoffs? How can you say that the quality of sport isn't decreased by the top team's knowing that they don't have to play their best, because the playoffs are almost a joke to get into?

But just think about it, if there was a playoff system in place, then USC losing to UCLA would have been just a stupid game. Nobody would have cared, win or lose, USC would still have a chance at the national title. But since the whole season is like a playoff, it was one of the most important games of the year, and USC losing it ended everything. That is why this system works.

I am not completely opposed to a playoff system, but I really don't think there are more than four teams on a given year that are deserving of a chance at the BCS national title. Ohio State, Florida, Michigan and probably USC or LSU would be the team's this year.The whole season isn't like a playoff though, it isn't fair. You have a bunch of teams with 1 loss (and one with no loses..is it Boise State's fault nobody wants to play them?) that get no chance. How is it fair that Florida is getting a shot while Michigan isn't? Say USC did beat UCLA and USC got in over Florida and Michigan how would that be fair? I don't get how that makes the regular season mean more, it just means more teams get screwed.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Team's with losing records have consistantly gotten into the NBA playoffs in the past couple years. There are only five teams in the NBA Eastern Conference that have winning records right now, and nobody in the Atlantic Division has a winning record. If the NFL playoffs started today, a .500 NFC team would make it.

So how can you tell me that all of these teams are deserving of making the playoffs? How can you say that the quality of sport isn't decreased by the top team's knowing that they don't have to play their best, because the playoffs are almost a joke to get into?

But just think about it, if there was a playoff system in place, then USC losing to UCLA would have been just a stupid game. Nobody would have cared, win or lose, USC would still have a chance at the national title. But since the whole season is like a playoff, it was one of the most important games of the year, and USC losing it ended everything. That is why this system works.

I am not completely opposed to a playoff system, but I really don't think there are more than four teams on a given year that are deserving of a chance at the BCS national title. Ohio State, Florida, Michigan and probably USC or LSU would be the team's this year.

This is college, not the NBA. College players are going to play hard no matter what. Are you saying that when in college basketball Duke and UNC play the last game of the year they aren't trying because they'll already be in the NCAA tourny? USC would not play timid against UCLA even if there was no reason to other than pride. That's what makes college sports great.

If anything a playoff system would increase the product of the regular season because big time programs wouldn't be as hesitant to schedule other non conference big time programs or better smaller programs like Boise State. Plus smaller schools would have a chance to sign better players who otherwise wouldn't go to a school that didn't have a chance to win a title.

How can you say there aren't more than four teams deserving of a chance for the BCS title this year and then name five schools who are? And what about Oklahoma, Auburn, Louisville, and Boise State? What did they do to not deserve to play for a title?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I hope Boise State beats Oklahoma by like 40 points or something just to see what would happen

[James Steele]

I hope Boise State beats Oklahoma by like 40 points or something just to see what would happen
It won't happen, yankee.

[BCWWF]

Just for the record, if the playoff system that I endorsed earlier this year was in place, it would look like this.

1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

8. Southern Cal (Pacific 10)
9. Boise State (Western Athletic)

4. Louisiana State (Wildcard)
13. Brigham Young (Mountain West)

5. Louisville (Big East)
12. Wake Forest (Atlantic Coast)

3. Michigan (Wildcard)
14. Houston (Conference USA)

6. Wisconsin (Wildcard)
11. Notre Dame (Wildcard)

7. Oklahoma (Big 12)
10. Auburn (Wildcard)

2. Florida (Southeastern)
15. Central Michigan (Mid-American)

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Then you figure:
Gator Bowl
1. Ohio State
8. Southern Cal

Cotton Bowl
4. Louisiana State
5. Louisville

Fiesta Bowl
3. Michigan
11. Notre Dame

Sugar Bowl
10. Auburn
2. Florida
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Rose Bowl
1. Ohio State
4. Louisiana State

Orange Bowl
3. Michigan
2. Florida
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1. Ohio State
2. Florida :D (THATS RIGHT, BITCHES!)

I would support that playoff system, or I would support the top four ranked teams.

[Nervous Ferret]

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Rutgers vs. Kansas State </TD><TD>Dec. 28, 8 p.m.
Houston </TD><TD>NFL Network </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

:-\

[BCWWF]

Wait, I didn't notice that, Rutgers got pushed all the way down to the Texas Bowl? That is rediculous.

[RP]

I hope Boise State beats Oklahoma by like 40 points or something just to see what would happen

I'm kind of hoping for the same thing. Also i'm hoping Ohio St wins 60-3

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

At first I thought that said Rutgers was playing Texas, that would be sick...but Kansas State could still be a good game...but on the NFL Network? Fuck I won't be at school then so I won't be able to watch it

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm kind of hoping for the same thing. Also i'm hoping Ohio St wins 60-3
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? 3? Get out of here.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Tim Tebow is a home schooled faggot, I'm not an OSU fan at all but I hope Laurinaitis fucks him up

[Nervous Ferret]

lol if he was home schooled (I'll take your word) how did he end up playing QB for Florida his Freshamn year?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He got to play for a local high school team even though he didn't go to that high school. I had the same shit going on my high school when I played, and the kid was a huge clown. Home schooling kids should be illegal

[Supreme Olajuwon]

While we're talking about freshmen, let's talk about Chris Wells. He's a 6'1 230 lb 18 year old who can do this against the best defense in college football:

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[The Outlaw]

Flordia has terrible management of the clock. Leak is so overrated. The defense is terrible. And if you say that Florida losing to Auburn a better matchup of Michigan losing to OSU, you are on crack.

Yeah, ok.



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Kid is freaking sick. Wish we could have got him.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah he is perfect for Meyer's system, they should be set with that freshman wideout/returner/kinda running back they got and Tebow. Obviously they are only gonna add more too since they are the "king of the speed state" right now.

Michigan vs USC is gonna be a sick game

[The Outlaw]

He'll win the Heisman before he leaves IMO.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Maybe, but people said the samethings about Quinn/Leak..so we'll see

Oh yeah, I bet Snead ends up at Louisville...WATCH

[BCWWF]

Isn't Brohm coming back? I would expect Snead to go somewhere random in the south, like TCU or something.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well Brohm only has one year left and Snead needs to sit out a year because he transfered sooooo

But you could be right about somewhere random, I heard he was thinking about Houston.

[BCWWF]

Won't be Sam Houston State though, lol

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't think Bomar had a redshirt year left, so if he transfered to a D1A school I think he could have only played a year or two or something. Plus nobody probably wanted to pick him right after that.

-edit, actaully I looked it up and he still has to sit out a season anyway as apart of the NCAA ruling, usually when you drop divisions you don't have to.

[BCWWF]

It's probably not considered dropping divisions since D1A teams can play D1AA teams in the regular season still.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

No you don't have to sit out if you transfer from 1A to 1AA

[DrA]

Maybe, but people said the samethings about Quinn/Leak..so we'll see

Oh yeah, I bet Snead ends up at Louisville...WATCH

He's transferring to TCU.

[BCWWF]

Makes sense.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He decided on TCU? What a idiot, shoulda went to Louisville

LaMarr Woodley won the Lombardi

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Jeff Bowden turned down the Alabama head coaching job, making him like the 18th coach to do so

[BCWWF]

Has anybody read the column on ESPN.com about how fucked up the situation in Arkansas is right now? It is rediculous.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah, all the freshman want to transfer since they aren't running the spread

It makes sense. I mean yeah, having their parents or whatever was pretty ridiculous. At the sametime though, I am sure those recruits where told they would be running the same offense they ran in high school (since they have the same coordinator) I think how they went about it was dumb, but they have a valid issue.

[BCWWF]

They also went 10-3 in the SEC though, so obviously what they are doing worked. If every athlete who was told false things in the recruiting process transferred, it would be a crazy world. I mean they do have a point if they think they are getting screwed out of the NFL or something, but at the same time, they are having hella success at Arkansas, and are going about this in a pretty fucked up way.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well the recruits themsleves not really, giving the ball to McFadden all the time doesn't help the QB - or better yet having a formation where McFadden plays QB and using that a lot isn't really what the #1 QB recruit wants to get into. I am assuming you know the story about how their HS coach got hired to be the offensive coordinator, so I mean I am sure they thought they'd be running the same offense. Not saying Arkansas should run the spread, since giving the ball to McFadden all the time seemed to work pretty well, but a QB, WR and pass catching TE that had success in the spread in high school is probably going to want to continue in that offense. I'm sure recruits get lied to all the time, but telling a recruit you are going to run the spread then not running it is a pretty big deal.

Not to mention I'm sure these kids are spoiled and want to be the stars of the team

[BCWWF]

Yeah, the article on ESPN.com said the main complaint was that when they were recruiting, since Nutt hired basically their whole high school staff, he told them he would be running that system. So the parents were asking, at the meeting, when the team was going to change.

All things considered, a spread offense QB isn't neccessarily a great NFL prospect. Vince Young is working out because he is a beast, but look at like Alex Smith. What other spread QB's have been drafted? It doesn't seem like many.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

How long as the spread been around for though? I mean its a lot different from just a straight up option offense which used to be popular. There is a lot of option principles in the offense itself, but a lot of different types of variations. With the old triple option offense, it was pretty much run or run. With the spread offense you can have heavy run (WVU), heavy pass (Texas Tech) or a more balanced attack (FLA) The spread offense is somewhat new too, so you can't really look at history of players being drafted out of it since it hasn't been used for that long. Plus the last 2 drafts the first QB taken came out of a spread offense so that is something to think about.

[BCWWF]

But look at Reggie McNeal, Brad Smith, Eric Crouch, etc., those are all double-threat type guys who were awesome in college but were immediatley turned into wide receivers. I think the quarterback going out of shotgun fulltime thing is not very condusive to becoming a good pro.

I mean I'm not trying to say that the spread offense will give these guys a better or worse chance at making the pros, I am just saying that right now, there is nothing like that system in the NFL and guys who come out of those systems haven't had the most success in the NFL. I mean look at Texas Tech, Cliff Kingsbury and those other QB's who put up tonns of yardage, they couldn't keep a match lit in the NFL. I just think they should shut up and play in a way that is going to help them win, because NFL scouts are not idiots, look at guys like Tavaris Jackson, second round draft pick QB from a D1AA school. If you have the talent and potential, somebody is going to pick up on you and you will be fine. Arkansas is not broken right now, and I don't see any reason why Nutt should have to fix it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Eric Crouch wasn't a a double-threat - he was strictly a running QB. Reggie McNeal, I personally think he should have been given a shot to play QB in the NFL. And Smith, he just isn't good enough to play QB in the NFL. All the guys you listed just weren't good enough to play QB in the NFL, its not becuase they came out of the spread. It is kinda hard to say the spread can't produce prospects when the first QBs drafted in the last 2 drafts came out of it.

Last time I checked, Tavaris Jackson didn't get 15 million dollar signing bonus or a 40 million dollar contract coming out of college. Pretty sure thats why that matters to these kids going to play where they show case their talent. Nutt doesn't need to fix anything, but what he did was a scumbag move. He brought in their HS coach and I am sure it was assumed he would be running the same offense, but now has not done it. Not saying he should, but what he did was pretty shady (I'm not the only way who feels this way, a lot of people think he only hired their coach to make sure he got the talent)

I can rattle off 150 QBs who played in "pro-style" offenses in college in the last 7 years that haven't done shit in the NFL. Plus, for the ninth time - it's not just the QB pissed off in this situation, there's a tight end and wide out as well.

[BCWWF]

That's not what I am saying. I am saying that a QB who is amazing in the spread isn't neccessarily going to be amazing in the pros, and likewise, a talented QB who plays average on a bad team or in a bad system is going to be discovered, see Jay Cutler. I mean there are legit reasons why they would be upset, if they wanted to be a bigger part of the offense or whatever, but really they are very selfish reasons based on how good the team was this year. To imply that a 10-3 team in the SEC should change it's offense to better showcase a few idiot freshmen is just retarded. Coaches tell recruits whatever they need to if they want them bad, but I don't think Nutt has more of an obligation to the Razorback fans than he does three kids NFL draft position.

[BCWWF]

Plus, for the ninth time - it's not just the QB pissed off in this situation, there's a tight end and wide out as well.

Apparently you typed the first eight in black font. I never implied that there was only one played upset, I used the word "they" and mentioned there was a QB, WR and TE specifically in earlier posts. The conversation got sidetracked into the discussion about spread QB's. Little comments like that aren't neccessary in a civil discussion.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I should have phrased that to put it wasn't so much to you, but everyone who seems to be discussing this is forgetting that their is a TE and WR involved in this. Houston Nutt is a straight up scumbag though, I've heard a lot of rumblings about him before and he brings in the coach of the #1 QB prospect in the nation just by chance? I dunno, I hope all those players do transfer and they suck. Arkansas just extended his contract til 2012 lol Must be nice to be able to give the ball to the best RB in the nation every play.

[BCWWF]

Yeah, when I saw that they extended his contract, I could just immediately tell that he will not be fulfilling that. I wouldn't be surprised if those three don't end up following that other guy out the door, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Arkansas doesn't go 10-3 in the next three years either.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I dunno, Mustain was the starting QB for 8 out of those 10 wins. They'll still have McFadden, but they'll still be playing in the SEC. I dunno if they'll be able to get by again without a good QB.

[BCWWF]

Well you also have to consider that for the most part, Arkansas came out of nowhere this year. Next year they will have a really similar team, but it won't be looked at the same by opponents. It seems like it happens all the time in college football where a team looks like it is over the hump and ready to be a BCS team, but the next year they flop.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

TCU vs Northern Illionis last night. With like nobody there. They should change how they do it, maybe move the bowls closer to where one of the schools is or something. I mean that should be a pretty exciting game, 2 of the more well known "mid-major" teams in the country.

[BCWWF]

I don't think Northern Illinois ever really had a chance though, TCU was a good team this year, NI was just a solid small school with a good running back.

As for attendance, you might be surprised at how poorly attended most bowl games are. I went to the Independence Bowl last year in Shreveport, La. They have Independence Stadium, which is used for nothing else besides this game, and it might have sold out once in the past 10 years. When I was there, the end bleachers were essentially empty and the top sections were too. They have got to make a better way to do that.

Our bowl this year is in El Paso, which to fly to from anywhere is like $400+. They gave away 1000 free student tickets because of it, but honestly, most of them might not even go. They have a bunch of bus trips, the cheapest is like $100 to drive down there, double up in a hotel room, and come back. Also, the drive is like 20 hours. I don't know, it all seems pretty shitty, like first of all, why can't they get some sort of decent deal for like a charter flight or two. Second, why play a game in El Paso if nobody can get there. It just seems rediculous. At least I hear they do a good job of selling tickets because after all, what else are you going to do in El Paso?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I know a lot of bowls are like that, that's why I think they should change it up. They should try to pick the smaller bowls by who location instead of conference, not base it off that 100% obviously, but like work something so say if the MPC computers bowl has the ACC#5 team and the UPS bowl has the #4 Big 12 team they could flip flop since the MPC bowl is closer to the Big 12 school.

You don't need to do this for any of the big time bowls because people are going to travel no matter what, but how many people are going to sell out a lot of money to see Boston College take on Toledo in the Diamond Nut San Fransico bowl?

[BCWWF]

Yeah, and that bowl takes place in the MLB Giants stadium doesn't it? An Insight Bowl in Chase Field. How shitty an atmosphere for college football (based on the games I watched about five minutes of last year)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Florida State vs UCLA 2niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite

[BCWWF]

meh

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Lorenzo Booker finally shows up in a game - Too bad it was his last

[Nervous Ferret]

Ray Rice nigga

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow Cal laid it on A&M

[BCWWF]

Up 14 with 8 minutes left...that essentially means that Mizzou is better than USC.

Chase Coffman has got to be the top tight end, or close to it, coming into next season.

A win here would be huge though, because we'd likely be ranked preseason next year and the Illinois game in St. Louis would be sweet. Hold onto it!!!

[Nervous Ferret]

lol Mizzou

2 point conversion going for the win. Bold call by the OSU coach

[D Mac]

Just read about that. Damn. Although we had a 2 touchdown lead in the 4th quarter and blew it. Kinda sounds firmiliar...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Texas Tech with like the greatest comeback ever today

[BCWWF]

Lol, I feel like an idiot. It was an awesoem game by Temple, Coffman and Daniel for the most part, but fuck, that fourth quarter. We should have had it in the bag. At least Minnesota is going to be making the headlines tomorrow.

[Linkbowler]

Um. Boise. Freaking. State.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Michigan's offense could not do shit today, USC romped 'em. Probably going to be the preseason #1 going into next season

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Boise State vs Oklahoma hot game

[Crimson]

watching the Ok/Boise game damn that laterall was BADASS

[Crimson]

Tie game baby...umm go Boise state

damn that laterall was a designed play,crazy

[Crimson]

Statue of liberty play to end it was also awesome. Great game.

They interviewed Ian after the game as he proposed his cheerleader gf to marry him..woulda been better if the guy that was interviewing him didn't come out and spoil it..idiot.

[James Steele]

Bush league bullshit, but Boise State proved they are a damn good team.

[BCWWF]

Damn this sucks. I left my friends at like 10:30 this morning all ready to relax and watch a bunch of college football, but I fell alseep from noon until like 6 p.m., so I missed Cotton, Capitol One and most of the Gator and Outback.

I caught the end of the Rose though, and I am glad that USC won. First of all, I like USC more, I like Pete Carroll a lot too, and I am not a big Michigan fan at all. Also, now there won't be any bullshit about Michigan being somehow deserving of No. 1. Earlier in the year, Stima and I talked about how for me, there wasn't really a big player I could identify with USC this year, like after having essentially the nations most prominant player for the past three or four years, but now, I think Jarrett is that player. He just didn't get as much publicity as some other big players. Also, he seems like a pretty big dick. Like he made a pretty sweet catch tonight, then tossed the ball to the Michigan players while they were on the ground and stuff. When the Vikes draft a WR, I would prefer Ginn or Johnson over him any day.

As for Fiesta, I didn't get to watch as much of this as I wanted to either. Part of it sucks because being indoor isn't cool at all, and I don't find Oklahoma to be a particularly interesting team this year. As for the blue turf and being undefeated, I don't know hardly anything about Boise, so it was hard to get into it. I thought Boise came out looking good, and I thought they had an image in their game that proved they should be here, and now I could really see them changing the college landscape. What really pissed me off was that we watched a movie, then checked the game and Boise was down eight with a minute and a half left, so my friends changed it back to some bullshit MTV reality show about dumbass former Real World characters. Now it turns out Boise State pulled it off. Fuck them. They have got to finish real high in the last rankings though, and if they can get a good non-conference schedule, a future season like this could make them a legit contender for the BCS Title.

As of right now, this is how I see the final rankings:
1. Ohio State
2. Florida
3. LSU
4. USC
5. Boise State
6. Michigan
7. Oklahoma
8. Wisconsin
9. Louisville
10. Auburn

[BCWWF]

Now that I have an objective post down, I am going to go on a rant about how Michigan and the Big Ten is overrated, as was seen today with Michigan's loss.

I never thought that Michigan deserved to be in the national championship game, and I had a few reasons. One, in the current setup, without the playoffs, Michigan already lost to the top team. Another loss proves that they never belonged, a win proves nothing. You can argue that Michigan almost beat Ohio State at the shoe, but I will argue that rivalry games, especially the biggest rivalry game in the nation, are not standard. I think Michigan showed today how good it really is. A top 10 team, but probably not No. 2.

The second reason I think Michigan did not deserve to be in the BCS championship is because they went undefeated for 11 weeks as a product of the Big Ten being in an off year. People look at the Big Ten and see an undefeated team, a one loss team and a two loss team, and think the Big Ten is having a great year. The reality is that behind those three teams, the Big Ten as a whole is having a big down year. Penn State fell flat for most of the year, Purdue was nothing special, Iowa had a horrible breakdown for the second half and Minnesota was a disgrace to a bowl game. I have said before that Wisconsin had so many wins because of an easy schedule (nobody in nonconfernece, no Ohio State in conference). Today might have proven that they are actually a pretty good team, but you can also argue that Arkansas is not the team today that it was when it was getting all the big wins. I would normally consider the Big Ten the second best overall football conference. The SEC always has some top tier teams and a lot of very good teams as well. The Big Ten is usually the same way, but this year it simply had no depth.

So basically what I am trying to say is that instead of judging Michigan by the teams they lost to, it is more accurate to judge the teams that they beat. Michigan lost to the No. 1 team, but Florida beat No. 13, 9 and 8. Any team can lose to Ohio State, but not every team can win 12 games with the nations best strength of schedule. Yeah, Florida lost to a worse team than Michigan did, but they also beat more better teams. Michigan beat all of its opponents except Ohio State, but in their 11 wins, they didn't beat teams the caliber of Tennessee, LSU and Arkansas. For Michigan to prove that they wouldn't have lost to Auburn, they would have had to go undefeated, in my opinion, because the Big Ten was not a great conference this year.

I think the right decision was made, and I am glad there will not be controversy when the BCS game is done.

[RP]

Bush league bullshit, but Boise State proved they are a damn good team.


:lol:


So now everyone is saying the Boise State deserves a shot at OSU. Honestly, i thought OU was had a great team and was probably screwed out of being in the National Championship game and Boise State beat them. I'm not sold on OSU being that much better then OU Florida or USC. That said, why shouldnt Boise St. get a chance? Its not fair to them. They beat every team they faced this year including OU. They deserve the shot. This system is just so fucked up. It pisses me off.

Any system that leaves even a decimal of a chance that there could be a co-national champion, is a horrible system and meaningless too. Makes no sense. YOU'RE SPORT IS CRAP IF THERE IS CO CHAMPIONS! Fucking idiots in the NCAA.

[RP]

Could you imagine if these BCS games were playoff games? And that same Boise/OU game just happend and Boise was moving on to play USC right now? I guarantee it would be George Mason (x 1000 ).

[BCWWF]

The biggest problem in college football, in my opinion, is that the smaller conferences are made to not matter. Why is the Sun Belt a Div. 1A school? All they do is lose to BCS schools in non-conference and then fall off the map. Boise State hopefully made a big step in getting some credibility for the smaller schools tonight, although the results are yet to be seen. With the right combination and a good non-conference schedule, I'd expect to see teams like Boise State, Utah, maybe even Houston reach the BCS semi-regularly in the future. Not every year, but so a Boise State in BCS isn't the shocking thing that it was this year.

[BCWWF]

Also, Stima, when you said "they will be No. 1 preseason next year", did you mean Michigan or USC? I figure USC, but both should be pretty high preseason. If you did mean USC, what do you think happens to the offense without Dwayne Jarrett? He seems to me, especially in this game, to be the best player on their offense.

The commentators also said something about that backup QB, Fernandez or something, competing for the starting job next year? I would be shocked if JDB lost it. Might not have been perfect, but he did a pretty good job, in my opinion.

[Skippord]

BOISE FUCKING STATE WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[RP]

Heres the interesting thing. I think Boise St should be ranked #2 when the final polls come out. They were undefeated and they just beat a powerhouse football team in a BCS game. That reason enough. This team is good. They need to be # 2. How any team with 2 losses can be ranked above Boise St is beyond me and i guarantee you this topic is going to pick up nationally soon. Boise St should be number 2.

Now if they are #2. They should go into next seasons preseason polls ranked atleast top 10 if not top 5. They could be the BCS killer. If they were to go undefeated from the start to end next year , starting out ranked number 10. They'd be in the National Championship no questions asked. It would be impossible to not put them in the National Championship game.

I'm rooting for Boise St. I'm a Boilermaker fan, but i'm rooting for Boise St now too.

[BCWWF]

You are putting too much on Oklahoma, IMO

[RP]

I disagree. OU got screwed this year. They could be sitting with one loss ( Texas ) and talking about a National Championship game if they didnt get screwed like they did. OU is a great..not good .. great team. That was a huge win.

[James Steele]

I disagree. OU got screwed this year. They could be sitting with one loss ( Texas ) and talking about a National Championship game if they didnt get screwed like they did. OU is a great..not good .. great team. That was a huge win.

I agree with you 100%.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah Mark Sanchez is a top QB recruit who probably could have won the starting job but he ran into a little sexual harrasment case (it was dropped but he def gave some bitch a dirty Sanchez) during spring ball

Lloyd Carr cannot coach in big games. I know in true TPWW fashion, the magnitude of the situation flat out doesn't matter and people perform the same in any platform so maybe I am wrong, but from what I've seen Carr can't win shit. He is garbage. Just a little something to throw out there though, how did Ohio State beating Michigan factor into Michigan not getting a chance to play them in the BCS game? Auburn and Florida could have very easily faced each other in the SEC Championship (after already playing each other earlier in the season) So I don't see why that factored into Michigan not getting a shot at the BCS title. That is kind of a mute point now, but just wanted to throw it out there.

Also, I want to see Boise State vs Ohio State. I want to see Winconsin get a shot after beating SEC runner-up Arkansas. Fucking gay how they won't make a playoff system...why can't they play a few more games? Better yet cut out that game againest Eastern Middle Southern Tennessee State College of Memphis so then you probably wouldn't have to add many. Another thing, I don't see how you could not be hyped up about Boise State playing Oklahoma (a team with really one loss) - if you weren't, do you get hyped for anything in relation to college football?

[James Steele]

I can honestly say that Boise State/OU was one of the most exciting sporting events I have ever watched.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't get how you couldn't be looking foward to that game though, its not like a few years ago where Utah played Pitt who barely crawled into a BCS game.

Boise State also ran the greatest play I've ever seen to win it, I really thought the Statue of Liberty was the sickest shit ever - then they run a variation of it with a behind the back hand off. Come on

[James Steele]

I was looking forward to it. I am an OU fan. I think people were looking over Boise State big time (I know I was).

[BCWWF]

Boise State - appearancewise, not gameplay - did not have the look of a big conference school, but they had a look of the spoiler. They came out and just looked cool, almost like the new wave vs. the old tradition. I am really pissed I didn't watch more of it, and even more pissed that I could have seen the ending but my friends made me watch MTV reruns.

[James Steele]

It will be on ESPN Classic this weekend (when they do the Instant Classics thing).

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wake Forest vs Louisville, now theres a game I am not looking foward to.

And for good reason, 3-0 borefest thus far

[Crimson]

So tomorrows game is Russel a top qb for the draft too? If so are we seeing the top 2 for the draft in Quinn/Russell? I'll watch it jus for that.

[Nervous Ferret]

I was about to go to sleep, but I said, heck I guess I'll finish watching OU/Boise. SMART CHOICE

[RP]

God, the Wisconsin thing pisses me off too. Wisconsin has a great team. They can play with just about anyone in the country if given the chance, but because conferences are only aloud to have two teams in the BCS, Wisconsin got screwed. Again, thats just not fair. Its rediculous. When they do finally get a playoff system in place, we'll probably look back at all this BCS crap and say it didnt mean a damn thing, because basically it doesnt. OSU or Florida wont be playing the teams that can possibly beat them. Its just rediculous.

Those plays Boise St ran were amazing because of how well they were executed perfectly. If that team has enough poise and talent to execute those plays in the most crucial moments against a top notch football team, they can beat OSU. I dont care who OSU has. I dont care who Florida has. The argument isnt " They will beat OSU or Florida " its " They can beat OSU and Florida " and for that sake, there should be a playoff.

[BCWWF]

OK...I started making a post asking which playoff method you think would make the most sense for the NCAA to adopt. I went on to re-explain the method I think makes the most sense, and then showed how some other methods would have worked out.

What I have below is my method, and then the two most likely scenarios (or the two that the average fan would probably assume would work the best). What I found by doing this kind of shocked me, and I am surprised that no pro-bowl analyst out there has mentioned it. Had there been an eight team playoff this season with six BCS conference champions and two wildcards, the playoffs would not have included Michigan or LSU. Anyway, take a look at how these would have worked out. What I found out was that if the BCS didn't make a fifth game this year, they would have been fucked, and that to have a fair playoff system, there would have to be 16 teams.

My method: 11 conference champions, 5 wildcards, AP rankings
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

8. USC (Pac-10)
9. Boise State (WAC)

4. LSU (Wildcard)
13. BYU (Mountain West)

5. Louisville (Big East)
12. Wake Forest (ACC)

3. Michigan (Wildcard)
14. Houston (C-USA)

6. Wisconsin (Wildcard)
11. Notre Dame (Wildcard)

7. Oklahoma (Big 12)
10. Auburn (Wildcard)

2. Florida (SEC)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)

*See, I think this is the most fair. All 10 teams that would normally make the BCS would qualify for this easily, barring a few conference champions being ranked real low, the top 10 teams in the polls would always make it, and it makes the smaller conferences actually have some significance. As you can see this year, there are really only three conference champions who are really bad, WAC and Mountain West could compete with the best of them.

Scenario 2: Six BCS conference champs, two wildcards, seeds based on BCS
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
8. Wake Forest (ACC)

4. Louisville (Big East)
5. Oklahoma (Big 12)

3. USC (Pac-10)
6. Boise State (Small conference clause)

2. Florida (SEC)
7. Notre Dame (Independent clause)

* As you can see, this method would FUCK THINGS UP a whole hell of a lot more than they are now. Yeah, so Boise State gets in, but because of Notre Dame and Boise States clauses, the No. 3 and No. 4 teams in the nation would not be included. Looking at this just makes me cringe at the controversy that would be caused if it was in place, and realistically, this is probably the method that most people would assume they use.

Scenario 3: Top 8 ranked teams (BCS rankings)
1. Ohio State
8. Boise State

4. LSU
5. USC

3. Michigan
6. Louisville

2. Florida
7. Wisconsin

* Much better than the one above it, but still, kind of takes away the whole point of winning your conference, which makes it almost completely objective.

[Kris P Lettus]

LSU 34 ND 21

Be back, drunk, after the game, bitches..

[Kris P Lettus]

I gave ND too much credit in the Chocolate Thunderdome..

Horrible reffing..

Mad long game..

[RP]

Here's a question. I havent done any research about this, but has Charlie Weis ever won a big game for ND? Dare i say... Lloyd Carr jr.

[BCWWF]

If I was Notre Dame right now, I would just be happy to be back in the BCS. Yeah, this was a prime Notre Dame team, but they clearly didn't have the talent level of the teams they lost to. They'll win 9+ games next year and then be back on track with Jimmy Klausen.

[RP]

LOL notre dame has no business being in the BCS they're horrible and havent beat anyone this year. GO BCS WOOOOOOOOOO

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Here's a question. I havent done any research about this, but has Charlie Weis ever won a big game for ND? Dare i say... Lloyd Carr jr.
While I think Lloyd Carr has had a lot better talent on D, I am starting to agree here. I mean ND looked good going into halftime, then from what I hear they looked like shit in the 2nd half (I fell asleep during halftime, fuck this working full time shit haha)

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa hold the fuck up

Lloyd Carr won a National Championship. I hate Michigan as much as anyone but that's retarded.

[BCWWF]

FIRE HIS ASS

[Kris P Lettus]

Florida 31 Ohio State 28

SEC>*

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa hold the fuck up

Lloyd Carr won a National Championship. I hate Michigan as much as anyone but that's retarded.
Yeah that's true, but if he goes 0fer with Michael Hart and Chad Henne in Bowl games/vs Ohio State then sometimes you have to start to wonder.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Originally I was thinking OSU had no shot at being beat, then I started drinking the Kool Aid about how fast and good UF is but now that I think about it I dunno. I think OSU probably is pretty sick of hearing about all the "speed" that UF has and how they can't match up with it. I guess people forget that Ohio State has probably the best trio of wideouts in the Nation playing for them/Ted Ginn Jr, probably one of the fastest dudes in all of college football.

Usually I am rooting againest Ohio State but tonight I dunno, kinda sick of hearing about Florida and their speed and how nobody in the World can match up with it - Auburn looked alright with it, so did South Carolina. Hopefully Tim Tebow gets fucking rocked too, so sick of hearing about that homeschooled faggot.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah but he is nowhere near Charlie Weis in terms of packing it in for the big games. If you win a National Championship ever then you should get amnesty for at least a decade. And the thing about Carr and Ohio State is yeah he's lost a lot but to a team that's been in the top 5 in the final rankings 4 out of the last 5 years and won 1, possibly 2 national championships. Michigan has been a great program but Ohio State has been better.

It's like saying Lou Gehrig sucked because he's not Babe Ruth.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well Michigan gets all kinds of top talent but when is the last time they beat a team with a similar talent level in a big game? I guess I am kind of on the fence when it comes to Lloyd Carr and how good he really is.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/college/img9915896.jpgPretty sick pic from CBSSportsline

[Skippord]

Good Start

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Florida's offense and defense looking good to open the game, can't say the same for kick coverage.

[McLegend]

Wow 21-7 Flordia beginning of the 2nd quarter

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Glad Ohio State is starting to show some live, not really rooting for either team just want to see a good game.

[McLegend]

This game is terrible.

Troy Smith looks worse then Brady Quinn at the sugar bowl.

[Kris P Lettus]

SEC>any non-SEC QB

[Kris P Lettus]

DOMINATION

42-14

10:20 left

SEC

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah SEC is definetly the best but lets not get crazy, Tennesse did lose to Penn State like a week and a half ago haha

Florida came out ready to play though, really can't play any better game then this. Ohio State came out like shit too, even with the kick return they still just looked flat the entire game. Doesn't help when the defensive ends are man handling your TEs/OTs too

Kinda retarded though, this game sucks.

[Skippord]

Man fuck Ohio State and Florida


Boise State owns
COMPTON!

[Nervous Ferret]

Huge letdown :-\

Way to go Boise State on being the only undefeated team

[Kris P Lettus]

AWESOME

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What? This is only UF's second national title? I figured they'd have more then that.

[RP]

If Boise St. isnt atleast # 2 ( and i say this believing that they should have a chance to be #1 via another game ) I'll be pissed and probably wont watch College Football again until theirs a playoff system put in. I didnt even follow it as closely this year as i have in the past because of this bull shit.

[Kris P Lettus]

What? This is only UF's second national title? I figured they'd have more then that.

It's also the first time a school held the National Championship in basketball and football at the same time..

Weird..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I was thinking that happened recently, but I'm thinking of UConn men's and women's team both winning the baskeball national championship at the sametime. Another school just did that too actaully, or came close or something.

[RP]

Boise St is ranked #5 and # 6 in the polls ( funny how theirs 2 polls. So fuked up ). LSU gets credit for beating a team that should not even of been there and they jump to #4. THESE TEAMS HAD 2 LOSSES FOR FUCK SAKES! I'm done with college football. Enjoy debating about a corupt sport. Lata fellas.

[Skippord]

Boise State > YOUR SOUL

[RP]

I'm not saying Boise State would beat Florida, or OSU for that matter though if that game was played against last nights OSU, Boise St would blow them out. I'm saying, all things aside, if you told me Boise St would be undefeated and beat a powerhouse team like OU in a BCS bowl game, i'd ask you when are they playing for the title. I dont need to know who they played during the season. All i need to know is that Boise St beat OU in front of millions of people watching, in one of the most storied bowl games, in a game that meant EVERYTHING to them. And you're telling me Boise St couldnt beat OSU or Florida when everything is on the line? Or that they dont even deserve the chance? Thats a joke.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well Boise State beat Oregon State who beat USC if you really wanna get into it. Boise State beat a lot of good teams, granted they didn't run the table in like the SEC or something but nobody else did either.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Mustain is becoming a joke, now he might be following his high school coach to Tulsa. I could see wanting out of Arkansas since Nutt probably lied to him about the offense, but Tulsa? lol give me a break

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9934824

[BCWWF]

Lol, doesn't Arkansas already have a better QB anyway?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nah they where about even last year I'd say...but Mustain has way more upside then Casey Dick

[BCWWF]

Yeah. As long as McFadden is back next year I think they will be fine.

It's too bad that for such a big season for Arkansas, it has to be tarnished by shit like this.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Mustain is registered for spring classes at Arkansas I guess..

What the fuck is going on? I keep hearing a lot about his mom too, I bet he has one of those crazy moms who is all up in their kids business

[MTH15]

I love Boise States field...hawt. I'm a V Tech boy.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ITS DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL

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