Official Ring of Honor discussion thread (A few random pics from the doubleshot.)

[ron the dial]

Saturday night's ROH show was pretty damn sweet. The only problem I had was that it simply felt like a set-up for the announced Chicago Spectacular shows coming up on December 8 & 9. Other than that, though, the show was really good.

Shingo put on a great match, beating Roderick. There was a sick DDT through a table at ringside. It looked like Strong just folded in half with the table.

Jacobs siding with Lacey and taking out Cabana after their tag match was done really well. They almost had me thinking that Cabana and Jimmy would both leave Lacey, but Jimmy's a lovesick bitch and bloodied Cabana with Lacey's shoe. Whitmer got a huge pop when he came out for the save.

Corino was jaw-jacking with the crowd all match, and it was hilarious. Sinclair almost got fired for reversing his decision on the winner of the match, and the crowd was eating it up. Chicago fucking hates Sinclair.

Aries/Daniels was a bit of a letdown. It wasn't that the match was bad; it's just that I expected more out of it. Daniels did a top rope palm strike followed by the best Angel's Wings I've ever seen to pick up the victory. It seems as though these two are going to have a program against each other, so it's only going to get better from here.

Albright impressed the hell out of me. He kicked the shit out of Trik Davis, and I can't wait to see him again on the 8 & 9.

Both Sydal and Richards beat the Briscoes. Sydal/Jay put on what could be considered the match of the night, while Richards sucked ass like he always does. I don't see that guy's appeal. He's so fucking boring to watch.

Danielson/Joe started out fast and didn't slow down at all. The action was all over the place, so I couldn't see most of the middle of the match but everything I could see was great. Danielson got a nightstick from under the ring and beat Joe with it. Joe with Danielson in the head with an industrial fan. Joe choked out Danielson with Sinclair's belt for the win. There was even a, "You're going to get your fucking head kicked in" chant.

The big announcement at the show was the Chicago Spectacular on December 8 & 9. Front row tickets went up to $50 in Chicago, but that's fine by me. Joe challenged Danielson to a steel cage title match for the Spectacular. HOLY SHIT. I'm hyped for that match right now, and I have more than a month to wait.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Quick question.... Does Shingo have his Masahiro Chono/Island Team 2000 look going on?

[ron the dial]

He had a pretty impressive mullet, goatee, and Blood Generation singlet on.

[Dave Youell]

Seriously when is Dragon going to drop the belt? It's really time for someone else to have a run

[ron the dial]

I'm hoping for him to drop it at Chicago Spectacular, but that's just because I want to see the title change hands. I'm still putting my money on Homicide winning the title. It may be the obvious choice, but that won't make it any less important when it happens.

[Innovator]

Seriously when is Dragon going to drop the belt? It's really time for someone else to have a runFinal Battle 2006

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Incase you guys haven't heard, which I'm sure you have, American Dragon is set to work all the NOAH dates on the upcoming Winter Navigation tour.

[ron the dial]

If Danielson defends the belt against Joe at the Chicago Spectacular, he won't have to defend the title at Final Battle. So unless Danielson is somehow forced into defending the belt twice in one month, I've just realized that it probably won't be a title match in Chicago. Damn. I hope this matter is addressed soon.

Edit - The Newswire says that the title is on the line for the Danielson/Joe match, so I wonder what that means for Final Battle. Will Homicide's wish supercede Danielson's contract?

[Innovator]

Cornette promised Homicide the ROH title shot at Final Battle 2006 if Joe and him beat the Briscoes in Manhattan. He has to defend it

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Daniels really, really, REALLY needs a heel turn. Like, yesterday.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

True, but being a heel in ROH isn't exactly easy... Although if he costed Homicide his title shot....

[Innovator]

Daniels needs the Prophecy back

[Gulak]

ROH needs a bit more unpredictability.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Like a Delirious title win? :shifty:

[Innovator]

Like a Delirious title win? :shifty:/%$@%&(%$@*(%@^&*#%(^*%(&*(%&%$&*$@(&*@ &($%* &($% *&@($&* $@(%& *$% &$(% &$(% &*(&* !(*^ !#$*^% #%^* @#(^

[Mr. Monday Morning]

This needs bumping to emphasise how shitty the end to Corino-Homicide sounds on paper :(

[Gulak]

Yeah that sounded so stupid. Ending with a hug and a haircut and then just laughing and playing around. WTF

[Impact!]

Please explain?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Yeah...... Yeah :(

Cabana/Homicide made sense.

Corino/Homicide, not really.....

Corino needs to come back in December and screw him out of the title ;)

[Gulak]

Please explain?
At the end of their no rules street fight they shook hands and hugged. Then Homicide got some clippers and said it's tradition in Mexico to shave an opponent's head when a feud is over. Corino obliged and sat down, letting Homicide shave his head. Then he just started shaving his own head. The show closed with Julius Smokes, Homicide, Ricky Reyes, and Steve Corino playing and laughing around the ring like children.

[Blitz]

Bumping this because

--There will be a press conference on Monday in Tokyo to announce the debut of ROH in Japan. The deal is not 100% but it is being reported in Japan that there will be a 7/16 show in Tokyo, working with Pro Wrestling NOAH, and a 7/17 show in Osaka, working with Dragon Gate. ROH owner Cary Silkin taped a message for the press conference and there is an ROH rep who will be at tomorrow's Budokan Hall show (Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Takeshi Morishima for the GHC title). Samoa Joe's opponent for the 2/16 show in New York from NOAH is also expected to be announced in the next few days.

ROH vs NOAH and Dragon Gate makes me hard.

[ron the dial]

Another step towards ROH's global domination. Awesome news. It's good to see them branching out to Japan so early on in their existence. This can only mean good things.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I should make mention that I will be seeing Shingo and Naruki Doi at the UK shows in like 6 weeks time.

:y:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

ROH in Japan will be amazing, I just wonder how they'll do it... Will it be ROH wrestlers facing off with each other on a NOAH/Dragongate show, with a few interpromotional matches, or will they all be interpromotional matches? We'll see.

BTW, in another thread there was a comment that no promotion, except WWE, has turned a profit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ROH is turning a profit. That makes me happy.

Also, Doi is the amazing.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah as far as I know they are making a profit, not sure if it's particularly huge but it's still more than most companies can manage.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Morishima vs Joe is ON, 16/2 in NYC. Kinda wish they'd waited a bit, he's going to be on the first 4 shows of the 5th year festival, personally I would've built him a bit on the first 3 so anyone who doesn't know him can see what he's about, then have him fight Joe on the last show he's booked. ALTHOUGH, I understand they want it in NYC, since that's pretty much their best crowd right now and it'll be a sellout, plus the initial confrontation happened there.

Hopefully Joe will be close to 100% by then too.

Anyway :drool:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

He's also getting a title shot....

I don't know what's a more interesting match up, Joe Vs Morishima, or Homicide Vs Morishima.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Jimmy Rave vs Morishima :shifty:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Having read about his match vs Misawa the other day I fear for whoever is champ

[TheProfessional]

i will be seeing morishima v. homicide most likely on 2/17 in philly. i'll be interested to see how the fans take to him and how the match as a whole turns out. so far the philly card is a little underwhelming currently.davey richards v. samoa joe is the big match so far and since i'm not sold on davey richards i can't say i'm looking forward to it. so far i am looking forward to chris daniels and matt sydal defending their titles against a yet to be named opponent mainly cause i love the team of daniels and sydal.

[ron the dial]

Have you seen Richards live? I wasn't sold until I saw him in Chi-Town a few months back. Much more impressive live than on tape.

HOLY SHIT. Just now read that I get to see Joe & Cide vs. Morishima & Nigel on 2/24. BAD ASS.

[TheProfessional]

no, this will be the first time i get to see him live. i'm hoping he has the same effect on me that he did you. that tag team match sounds amazing btw.

[Destor]

Davey Richards is the man.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

It's official...

From PWInsider:

RING OF HONOR TO RUN FIRST SHOWS IN JAPAN THIS SUMMER
by Mike Johnson @ 10:35:00 AM on 1/22/2007


Ring of Honor will make its debut this summer in Japan, it was announced this morning. ROH official Syd Eick traveled to Japan for the official announcement. The promotion will run joint shows on 7/16 in Tokyo with Pro Wrestling NOAH and 7/17 in Osaka with Dragon's Gate.

ROH has had working agreements with both companies over the past several years, sending talent overseas and hosting a number of Japanese stars including Kenta Kobashi, CIMA, KENTA, Naomichi Marufuji, and Dragon Kid among others. ROH hosted the first-ever American title defense of Pro Wrestling NOAH's Global Honored Crown championship last September in New York City. The Briscoe Brothers and Nigel McGuinness, among others have toured with NOAH. Jimmy Rave, Austin Aries, Jack Evans, and Roderick Strong have toured with Dragon's Gate.

Sports Navi in Japan theorized that this may lead to a "Supershow" with all three promotions working together, but that is just conjecture at this point

[Fignuts]

Personally, I hope KENTA wins the ROH strap this year. I think he deserves it.

[Blitz]

Supershow with ROH NOAH and DG would be sex.

[ron the dial]

I'm pulling for Nigel. I wouldn't mind KENTA, as he is amazing, but Nigel is my boy.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Personally, I hope KENTA wins the ROH strap this year. I think he deserves it.

I don't know if I agree with this or not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to KENTA winning the ROH strap, but saying he deserves it, IMO, is a stretch. I mean, ROH has basically let him come in and steamroll over most of their talen he's fought... The matches have been great, but I don't think KENTA should be given the belt unless NOAH is willing to let KENTA lose more often. That way the ROH guys won't look weak with just one or two ROH guys looking good by eventually beating him.


Those Japan shows will be amazing. The only sad part is that SUWA is now retired and won't be around for them... :'(

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I could see Nigel or Rave holding the belt this year... Maybe Hero too.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, he has only lost one match, but to say he's steamrolled over all his opponents is stretching it. He's made evryone he's faced look strong. Stronger than some of his opponents in Noah have looked.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm not saying he didn't make them look strong. I'm just saying it's not a good idea for someone who isn't actually a member of your roster to beat tons of people on your roster without them getting wins back.

Right now it's not bad, because there's reason to believe in a rematch, people like Aries, Strong, Sydal, Richards, etc, could win. However if KENTA went back and just beat them again and again, no matter how strong they looked, I don't think it would help ROH....

It's not just KENTA, that's just my issue with companies bringing in talent from other companies... (Unless you're TNA and fuck over everyone you bring in.)

[What Would Kevin Do?]

With that said, the ROH/Dragongate relationship has been done amazingly well, and no one has looked bad.

Plus, props to NOAH for their treatment of the Briscoes and Danielson.

[Fignuts]

I think thats actually a great reason to put the strap on him. You have guys like Nigel and Rave who are on the verge of being permanant main eventers. I still don't see them on the same level as guys like AmDrag, Joe, or Lo-ki. A win for the title against an invader who has been almost unbeatable, would completely cement them at the top.

[ron the dial]

I can see (and agree with) and argument against Rave not being at that point, but Nigel has more than proved himself as ROH Championship material. The man is a fucking workhorse with an incredible moveset.

I do like the "win the belt from the invader" scenario, though. First of all, KENTA winning the title would be huge. Off the charts. It's not that no one would see it coming; it would just be incredible to see. And the guy that would take it off of him would definitely get a solid rub, being the man to bring the belt "back home."

Whichever way the title scene plays out, I'm sure that it'll be spectacular.

[Fignuts]

KENTA can even wave around his craaaaaazy passport to get cheap heel heat.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I think thats actually a great reason to put the strap on him. You have guys like Nigel and Rave who are on the verge of being permanant main eventers. I still don't see them on the same level as guys like AmDrag, Joe, or Lo-ki. A win for the title against an invader who has been almost unbeatable, would completely cement them at the top.

That's fine, as long as KENTA isn't reeled back in by NOAH afterwards. I don't care who he beats, as long as he has some losses as well. They don't have to be immediate. Ala, KENTA winning the title, being unbeatable, losing it to... let's say Nigel... wrestling a few more matches, winning a few, losing a few, is fine.

Him being unbeatable for a bit, losing once, and vanishing, IMO, hurts. Not terribly, but it does.

For example, I'm willing to bet one of the reasons Danielson was treated so well in NOAH has to do with the fact that he beat KENTA, and people in Japan saw it. NOAH didn't want to make him look weak since he beat KENTA, plus they could build him up for a rematch.

However, if someone like Aries went to NOAH, NOAH has no real incentive to give him wins, since he hasn't beaten anyone major on their roster (tag match vs KENTA I'm not counting since KENTA didn't take the fall), so Aries losing in NOAH doesn't make anyone in NOAH look bad.


Back to my original point, take the LEsnar NJPW situation. Came in, took the money, beat a bunch of people, left undefeated... NJPW lost huge in that deal. KENTA winning is fine. KENTA only losing being beaten once before leaving, not as fine.

Of course, this is assuming he's back for an extended run again.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.

[ron the dial]

Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.

:drool:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Honestly, the only way I see that match happening is if ROH/Dragongate/Noah do a joint show, and they have something like

CIMA/Marufuji/Jack Evans Vs Doi/KENTA/Davey Richards

That match would be fucking immense.

[Fignuts]

Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.

Why not?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Both are huge names in their respective company, and are pretty damn popular in both the Japanese and American wrestling scene.

Essentially, NOAH and DG management would probably never decide on who would win.

You MIGHT see it if there were other matches before or after it, either a rematch between the two, or other matches on the same card, ala Marufuji Vs Dragon Kid, or something of that sort. However, the fact that NOAH and Dragongate don't really work together much as it is, the chances of this match happening are really slim.

[Fignuts]

Exactly why we need a new super J-cup.

Last one was beyond horrible.

[Fignuts]

They had KENTA, Lyger, CIMA, Heat, delfin, Taka, Jinsei, and billy ken kid on the show, but none of them were in the tournament. Instead you had a bunch of sub-par up and comers, and Marufuji.

The logic is mind-boggling.

[The Fugitive]

Also, while it will NEVER happen, I would kill to see KENTA Vs CIMA.

I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?
Either would be great, I just prefer Doi a bit more.

Plus, I mark for the bakatare sliding kick ;)

[Blitz]

I don't know, wouldn't Yoshino vs KENTA be more exciting to watch?
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[The Fugitive]

Heh, I get the feeling that someone would really enjoy that match.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

FYI Kev

Dragon's Gate announced today in Japan that they would be sending CIMA, Masaaki Mochizuki, Susumu Yokosuka, Dragon Kid, Ryo Saito, Genki Horiguchi, and Shingo Takagi to the Ring of Honor events in Detroit, Michigan on 3/30 and 3/31 during Wrestlemania 23 weekend.

Dragon's Gate sent many of the same talents to last year's ROH events in Chicago the weekend of Wrestlemania 22. That led to one of the best matches of 2006, a six man tag featuring Blood Generation of CIMA & Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino vs. Do Fixer of Ryo Saito & Genki Horiguchi & Dragon Kid during ROH's "Supercard of Honor" event.

[Blitz]

No Yoshino :n:

[Blitz]

btw I would love to go to the Mania doubleshot, but I'm thinking I'm gonna be wayyyyyyy to busy that weekend :(

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I just heard, fucking badass, and i'm going to be at both rows in the 2nd row. Slickness. I'm so fucking glad I opted for better seats to this and said fuck WM.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Do it Blitz, it will be amazing.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

No Yoshino :n:

Why do I keep thinking Yoshino retired?

[the Illusionist]

the Ring Of Honor matches off of video.google are incredible...last night i saw Low-Ki vs. Kenta and it was wild.just a ridiculously good match. I'd appreciate any matches that could be found being posted here.

[Blitz]

Believe me Kev, I'd love to go. But I just flat out won't have the time.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

You're going to regret it.

[Blitz]

I know. But it's gonna be crazy round here that week.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Why do I keep thinking Yoshino retired?

He didn't. You're thinking of Doi, who hurt his eye, and "faked" his retirement.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I knew it was one of them

[Innovator]

Homicide over Joe after 4 lariats

[Mr. Monday Morning]

* After Homicide over Hero via Cop Killer

And various other matches. Briscoes beat Aries/Strong 2-0, looks like that run is over, finally

[Innovator]

Time for ROH to Man Up

[Fignuts]

On the subject of TNA making Joe leave ROH, I'm not sure if I disagree with this dicesion. TNA has always had a good working relationship with ROH, so for them to pull Joe out they must have some big plans for him in the future. And pulling a wrestler that you have big plans for, from his indy work, so there is less chance of getting overworked or injured, is a smart move.

Now if they are doing it for any other reason, then fuck TNA.

[Xero]

On the subject of TNA making Joe leave ROH, I'm not sure if I disagree with this dicesion. TNA has always had a good working relationship with ROH, so for them to pull Joe out they must have some big plans for him in the future. And pulling a wrestler that you have big plans for, from his indy work, so there is less chance of getting overworked or injured, is a smart move.

Now if they are doing it for any other reason, then fuck TNA.
I'd bet they went up to him and basically said (not in so many words) "You need to choose ROH or TNA" (as they did with Punk I believe). TNA would have been hit pretty hard if he chose ROH.

[ron the dial]

Briscoes are going to win those titles on 2/24. And if they don't I'm going to be PISSED. Okay, not pissed, but it's about time that they finally manned up and got the straps.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I heard a rumor that NOAH begged TNA to steal Joe from ROH because Misawa was afraid that Joe was going to kill and eat him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

UK cards have been almost finalised

Saturday 3rd March

ROH World Title Match
Homicide (champion) vs. Davey Richards

Samoa Joe Vs Nigel McGuinness

2 out of 3 Falls
Delirious vs. Matt Sydal (ROH World Tag Team Champion)

FIP Heavyweight Title
Roderick Strong (champion) vs. The UK’s very own PAC

ROH vs. Dragon Gate Challenge
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Naruki Doi & Shingo

Tag Team Grudge Match
Colt Cabana & BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Jimmy Rave

SHIMMER Special Attraction Match
Sara Del Rey vs. Allison Danger
………………………………………………………………………………………….

Sunday 4th March

Samoa Joe's final ROH match

Fight Without Honor
Nigel McGuinness vs. Jimmy Rave

Falls Count Anywhere
BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs

Battle Of The High-Flyers
Matt Sydal vs. PAC

Special Attraction Match
Colt Cabana vs. Delirious

Plus more to be signed after the events of 3/3 with Homicide, Jay & Mark Briscoe, Naruji Doi, Shingo, FIP Heavyweight Champion Roderick Strong, Davey Richards, Allison Danger, Sara Del Rey and others

-----

Is it wrong that I'm mostly hyped for the Briscoes vs Shingo/Doi match and seeing Sara Del Ray? :o

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I may have missed something here, but shouldn't Doi and Shingo not really like each other, since there stables have been feuding over in Dragon Gate (Muscle Outlawz and Blood Generation)

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Oh, and being hyped for Doi is never wrong.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yeah as far as 'm aware they're not exactly pals :$

[ron the dial]

They've got more booked for the UK shows than for the Chicago show. This peeves me, although the three matches booked so far are looking phenomenal.

ROH vs. Pro Wrestling NOAH
Samoa Joe and Homicide vs. Takeshi Morishima and Nigel McGuinness

World Tag Team Title Match
Christopher Daniels and Matt Sydal vs. The Briscoes

Windy City Death Match
Colt Cabana vs. Jimmy Jacobs

[Destor]

ROH World Title Match
Homicide (champion) vs. Davey Richards

:drool:

[Destor]

Only cause it's Davey Richards.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

They've got more booked for the UK shows than for the Chicago show. This peeves me, although the three matches booked so far are looking phenomenal.

ROH vs. Pro Wrestling NOAH
Samoa Joe and Homicide vs. Takeshi Morishima and Nigel McGuinness

World Tag Team Title Match
Christopher Daniels and Matt Sydal vs. The Briscoes

Windy City Death Match
Colt Cabana vs. Jimmy Jacobs

Hey, you get to see a title change

[ron the dial]

Samoa Joe's last official US ROH match and a title change (hopefully). I guess that I can't really argue with that.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Article off rohwrestling.com





Seven Dragon Gate Stars Coming To Detroit
Wednesday, February 07, 2007

Ring Of Honor and Dragon Gate are thrilled to announce that seven Dragon Gate stars have been signed to compete on ROH's double shot in Detroit on March 30th & 31st. Last year Dragon Gate brought six top talents to ROH for the triple shot during The Milestone Series. The result was several excellent bouts including The Wrestling Observer match of the year. Tickets are now on sale for both 3/30 & 31 at www.ROHwrestling.com (http://www.rohwrestling.com/) or by calling 215-781-2500.

Complete match details will be released after the Fifth Year Festival. You can expect one night to feature several ROH vs. Dragon Gate matches. ROH officials are hoping to put together a six man tag that can rival the match of the year from "Supercard Of Honor" for the other night. These plans are subject to change. One thing you are guaranteed is that these exceptional athletes will be put in the best matches possible to give you the most bang for your buck. The official list that is signed for 3/30 & 31 in Detroit include:

-CIMA
-Naruki Doi
-Ryo Saito
-Dragon Kid
-Shingo
-Masaaki Mochizuki
-Susumu Yokosuka

This will mark the ROH debuts of Mochizuki and Yokosuka. CIMA, Doi, Saito and Dragon Kid were all part of last year's huge shows. When you add other Dragon Gate veterans like Matt Sydal, Jack Evans, Roderick Strong, Austin Aries and Jimmy Rave to the mix the match possibilities are endless. It is also possible that the Dragon Gate stars will be placed in first time ever dream matches against other regulars on the ROH roster.

The addition of these seven unique talents insure that both the Detroit events will be well rounded, can't miss shows. Keep checking ROHwrestling.com for more big announcements for this weekend.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Sacrificing Genki for Doi....

I love Genki :(
I love Doi more :)

I could be happier, but all in all, I am happy.

[Destor]

I do not love Genki.

[Blitz]

No Yoshino :n:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I do not love Genki.

How can you not love Genki? He's a good wrestler, plays his part great, and his gimmick is that he uses the power of his balding head.

[Destor]

Having a "funny" gimmick will not win me over. I am not Japaneese.

Also I hate chocolate.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

The legendary Bruno Sammartino has agreed to appear on ROH's event in Detroit on March 30th. Sammartino will make an appearance on the show. The best part is that the beloved former WWWF Champion will be available for autographs. This is your chance to meet Bruno Sammartino!!! Tickets are now on sale at www.ROHwrestling.com or by calling 215-781-2500.

Sammartino was very impressed with ROH's live product and fans. This true hall of famer feels that ROH is the future of pro wrestling and wants to lend his credibility to ROH on March 30th. Tens of thousands of wrestling and sports entertainment fans will be coming to Detroit from all over the world that weekend. Now they will get a chance to meet Bruno, get his autograph and witness a night of pro wrestling at its best.

This will be Sammartino's second ROH appearance. He was at the 9/16/06 "Glory By Honor V: Night 2" event that won show of the year in The Wrestling Observer Newswletter. Please note that Bruno will only be at the March 30th event when ROH presents the big doubleshot in Detroit.

March 30th is sure to be a special night with the legendary Bruno Sammartino. Tickets are selling fast so get yours now!!!

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Gonna get my picture with Bruno.. WHOO!

[Innovator]

Sadly, you won't see Joe

[blake639raw]

Ring of Honor Presents: Home of the Rave
February 16, 2007

Bell Time: 8:15

- ROH announces that tickets for tonight's event have sold out.

1) Takeshi Morishima defeats Pelle Primaeu. Pelle came out to begin the show, issuing an open challenge. Samoa Joe's music hit, but Morishima came out. Morishima destroyed Pelle in seconds, getting the victory. Nigel McGuinness then comes out to calm Morishima down.

2) Delirious defeats Adam Pearce. Pearce had a foreign object, went to hit Delirious with it, but hit Shane instead. In the confusion, Delirious picked up the object, and put it in his mask. He then hit a headbutt on Pearce, knocking Pearce out.

3) Sara Del Ray & Allison Danger defeat Alexa Fisher & Daizee Haze. Del Ray pinned Fisher after a double underhook suplex.

4) Four Way Fray: Xavier vs Jack Evans vs Jimmy Jacobs vs SHINGO
- Jack Evans eliminated Xavier after reverse hurricanrana.
- SHINGO eliminates Jimmy Jacobs
- Jack Evans pins SHINGO after a 630 splash from the top turnbuckle.

- Samoa Joe came to the ring to thank the New York ROH fans. He called out Morishima, but Nigel came out instead. Nigel and Joe exchange words, then brawl. Refs and students break it up.

5) Tables Match: B.J. Whitmer defeats Brent Albright. BJ Whitmer took a Razor's Edge through two doublestacked tables...and kicked out! Match is still going, said to be brutal and intense. BJ Whitmer wins the match after an exploder from the top turnbuckle through two tables.

- So far, ROHPhilly has said "great match" after both the Four Way and the Tables match.

6) ROH World Tag Team Championship Match: Matt Sydal & Christopher Daniels defeat Austin Aries & Roderick Strong. Roderick has a widely visable black eye, stemming from his PWG action last weekend. Midway through the match, Austin Aries suffers an ankle injury. Aries apparently went for a top rope springboard, missed the rope and landed badly. He can barely stand. Sydal hits the Shooting Star Press on Aries, following by Daniels hitting the Best Moonsault Ever.

- After the match, Roderick Strong attacks Austin Aries, hitting a backbreaker. Davey Richards comes to the ring. Davey and Roderick are now a team known as the No Remorse Core. Jack Evans made the save for Aries, who was hurting badly.

- Well, so much for the dominating Briscoes theory...

7) Nigel McGuinness & Colt Cabana defeat Jay & Mark Briscoe. Nigel pinned Jay after a lariat.

8) Samoa Joe defeats Takeshi Morishima. Joe choked Takeshi out. Morishima was locked in the choke, and his arm dropped three times for the defeat.

9) ROH World Championship: Homicide defeats Jimmy Rave. Homicide won via pinfall after a copkilla.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Ring of Honor Presents: Night of The Factions
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Saturday, February 17

Event Results: Provided by ROHPhilly, Head-On, The Philadelphia Inquirer, and PETA.

Pre-Show

1) Rhett Titus & Pelle Primaeu defeat Bobby Dempsey & ???. Pelle pins Payne after a stunner.

2) ROH Top of the Class Trophy: Shane Hagadorn defeats Alex Payne.

3) Sara Del Ray defeats Mitch Franklin. The American Angel won via submission.

ROH 5th Anniversary - Event 2

1) Nigel McGuinness defeats TJ Perkins. Nigel pins Perkins after the lariat. Said to be a great opening match.

2) Austin Aries defeats Claudio Castagnoli. Aries said to be walking fine to the ring, but showing pain during the match. Austin won after hitting a 450 splash.

- Austin called out Roderick after the match, but Jack Evans comes out instead. He's against taking sides. Roderick and Davey come to the ring. "Roddy is awful on the mic"... Roderick calls out Jack to pick sides, but he doesn't decide anything. End of segment.

3) Street Fight: Colt Cabana & BJ Whitmer & Daizee Haze defeat Adam Pearce & Jimmy Jacobs & Lacey. Whitmer pins Jimmy after "super exploder". Very bloody match, with chairs being thrown all over the place, including into the audience.

4) Jay Briscoe & Mark Briscoe defeat El Generico & Kevin Steen.ckingbelievable" match, with the crowd chanting "Please Come Back" at Generico and Steen afterwards.

5) Samoa Joe defeats Jimmy Rave. Samoa Joe pins Jimmy Rave, and is now giving a goodbye speech. "Match was nothing special"...um, except that it was JOE'S LAST ROH MATCH IN PHILLY!

- Crowd near 1,000.

- INTERMISSION -

6) FIP Championship: Roderick Strong vs Delirious. Aries tried to attack Strong before the match, but never got to him. Match is ongoing now. During the match, Delirious was knocked out cold. The ref made the 'x' sign, as Roderick dragged Delirious out of the ring. Strong gave Delirious a powerbomb on the outside and went back to the ring. Ref made the 20 count. Delirious looked badly injured. Aries tried to attack Roderick again after the match but doesn't get to him again.

7) ROH World Tag Team Titles: Sydal & Daniels defeat SHINGO & Evans. Sydal gets the victory over Jack after a top rope doubleteam Angel's Wings on Jack. Fun match.

- After the match, Austin Aries comes out demanding that Jack Evans picks which side he will be on. Jack refuses. Aries says that he's going to find the next generation of stars and begin his own group. Evans vows to do the same, thus making this weekend the weekend of factions.

8) ROH World Championship: Takeshi Morishima defeats Homicide.

Hagadorn won by forcing Alex to submit. Briscoes get the win after hitting a combo Shooting Star Press-Guillotine Leg Drop combo on Kevin Steen. "Unfu Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new ROH World Champion! Very hot finish. Morishima hit Homicide with two T-Bone suplexes, but Homicide kicked out. Morishima hit a lariat, then finished Homicide off with the suplex for the victory. A very pro-Homicide crowd was stunned at the finish. Homicide was visibly crying, losing the belt he worked four years to win.

[Blitz]

WTF Morishima won the title?!?!

[blake639raw]

WTF Morishima won the title?!?! Yeah, that's what I said. I'm not too sure about it either, but we'll see how it plays out. I bet Nigel will beat him for in England.

[Blitz]

Wow, really think this is a bad move. Homicide shoulda had a long run.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

We'll see how it plays out. The NOAH ROH deal must be very strong and trusting. I think Morishima could be a great champ really. He comes off as more of a thread than Homicide (no DQ style battles not counted)(

[Indifferent Clox]

where's danielson been?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

HE's taking time off to heal his shoulder.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Pretty sure Mori is wrestling for NOAH on the Liverpool weekend, so no Nigel switch there. Dunno, unpredictability can be good, ROH has started to veer towards formulaic stuff in some ways so it's good to shake things up. ESPECIALLY if all this faction stuff means the return of Alex Shelley.

Oh, and the possibility of a Generico/Steen vs Briscoes feud makes me giddy.

[ron the dial]

I like Morishima as champ. We'll have to see how it plays out, but I'm definitely not bothered by it.

[lort]

Wow, certainly didn't see that coming.

The UK shows sound great, I really must get my tickets for that.

[Chuck Jones]

you should always follow a long title reign with a short one...

[Innovator]

WHOA

[Destor]

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

[Destor]

FUCK HOMICIDE

[redoneja]

I wonder if this is possibly connected to the rumors of TNA forcing their talent to pick between them and working indies.

[Destor]

This has more to do with the fact Cide isn't a world champion.

[Destor]

And he sucks.

[Innovator]

Morishima as World Champ

Roderick turning on Aries, No Remorse Corps with Davey

Aries and Evans making their own factions

Joe's farewell tour

Delirious

ROH getting even more interesting right now

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I'm trying to figure out who Aries and Evans will get....

and No Remorse Corps... I'm assuming Albright will end up with NRC as a hired gun. Or Romero

Aries will probably take Matt Cross. (M-Dog 20)

[Innovator]

Aries and Delirious should join up, after Roderick beat down Delirious last night

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Aries should join up with Akiyama and form TEAM STERN FACIAL HAIR

Oh and it's all but confirmed Morishima will defend against KENTA on 3/4 at the Budokan (unless he jobs to Whitmer :| ) and then won't be seen again until after Wrestlemania weekend. Which leads me to believe Nigel will be the one to beat him, since it would take a mammoth booking job to get any of the smaller guys in a position to be able to realistically beat him, plus there's an easy angle with Nigel getting angry with Mori for not respecting ROH/the title and for making him look bad when he was standing up for NOAH.

[Innovator]

Yeah I see Nigel as the guy.....or perhaps Mori holds it until we hear the Final Countdown again

[Mr. Monday Morning]

But does Dragon come back as heel or face?

[Innovator]

Maybe tweener prick Dragon, like he was during the CZW feud (until the Cage of Death)

[Innovator]

There're a lot of guys who could take the title. Nigel, Aries, Colt, Cide again, Dragon, Davey.

As long as it's not Jimmy Rave

[ron the dial]

I'm definitely looking for Nigel to take the title from Morishima, but wouldn't be too bothered by any of those listed above. Except Davey. DO NOT want the belt on him.

[Innovator]

Gabe seems high on him, even though he is a poor man's Low Ki

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I can't see anyone but Nigel or maybe Dragon beating Mori. He's just too huge.

[Innovator]

Aries did beat Joe...

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I want Whitmer to beat him.....

Only so Jimmy fucking Jacobs and beat him on WM weekend and become the greatest champion in wrestling ever.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Aries did beat Joe...

True, but that was a totally different situation. That would also mean Aries would be the 1st 2-time champion, which is something I think Gabe is REALLY holding off on for as long as possible.

[TheProfessional]

Morishima made Homicide his bitch. Seeing him live was amazing. He is a big, big boy.

The factions should be interesting but the NRC needs someone who can work the mic. Jack Evans has charisma but it seemed like everything he said Saturday night was scripted. It was like a bad episode of Saved by the Bell.

Also, Steen/Generico v. the Briscoes absolutely stole the show. It was one of the best tag team matches I've ever seen.

[ron the dial]

I'm going to see Samoa Joe in his final US match as an ROH regular tonight, and the whole thing is just surreal to me. I didn't start watching ROH until about a year ago. Shit, I hadn't watched wrestling in a few years until about a year ago. Then I got bored, started checking this site out again, and saw a few people talking about this place called Ring of Honor. I'd heard hype elsewhere as well, so I figured it would be worth illegally downloading a few matches to see what it was all about.

The first match that I downloaded was Joe vs. Punk II, because these were the guys I was most interested in after reading about them, and this was the match that was getting all of the hype. Plus, it was in Chicago and that's where I'm from. I was fucking blown away. I've been to every ROH in Chi-Town since last June, and don't plan on stopping any time soon.

My point is this: Joe was a major factor in me getting back into professional wrestling. I thought that I'd grown beyond it (and sometimes still feel that way watching WWE), but ROH, and more specifically Joe and Punk, got me back into it. ROH owes a lot to both of those guys (as well as many others), and I'm glad that Chicago got to say goodbye to both of them.

Hopefully we'll see Joe back in Ring of Honor some day, but for now I understand why he's got to go do his thing. I'm just happy that I got to see the man in some sick matches before he left.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Looks like somebody called that tag title switch, hmm?

[Impact!]

Results anyone?

[thecc]

Drake FUCKING Younger was also on the card :D

edit:nevermind :(

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[Innovator]

Rest of the ROH tag division




TIME TO MAN UP

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Copy/paste from the ROH board

1) Matt Cross/M-Dogg 20 wins 4CS with Shooting Star LegDrop, Aries came out to recruit him, it apparently turned into Aries/Cross v ??, NRC ran in, and then Delirious chased off Roderick Strong

2) Sara Del Ray/Alison Danger over MsChif and Serena

3) Albright defeated Claudio with help from Sweeney

4) Rave beat Whitmer with a cradle with his feet on the ropes. I was told this was bad

5) Jay and Mark Briscoe over Matt Sydal and Christopher Daniels after Daniels eats a cutthroat Burning Hammer, Sydal takes one of his own, a Jay toprope legdrop, and a Mark shooting star press to win the ROH World Tag Team Titles.

6) Austin Aries and Matt Cross over Davey Richards and Roderick Strong via Aries 450, Cross f-d himself up on an Asai moonsault onto the barrier. NRC attack after, Cross gets Tiger Drivered on the rail. Rematch next Chicago show Saturday April 28th.

7) Colt Cabana over Jimmy Jacobs after Colt 45ing Lacey and Jimmy. Lots of blood. Jimmy hits splash from top of in-ring ladder to Colt on a table on the floor. Whitmer and Albright also involved.

8) Takeshi Morishima and Nigel McGuinness over Samoa Joe and Homicide when Nigel pinned Joe with a lariat

-----

I'd assume that means Joe gets his win back over Nigel next Saturday

[ron the dial]

Fucking amazing show. That's all I'll say.

[Gulak]

Davey Richards is ruined now that he's Roderick Strong's bitch.

PS - No Remorse Corps is the gayest sounding shit I've ever heard.

[Innovator]

Davey Richards is ruined now that he's Roderick Strong's bitch.

PS - No Remorse Corps is the gayest sounding shit I've ever heard.Air Devils....nuff said

[blake639raw]

Well, if Roderick is ever going to improve behind the mic, he needs a chance to try. Ring of Honor is somewhere where he can do that. While I agree that he sucks behind the mic, he hasn't been heel in a long time, and that usually helps anybody grow more. I'm actually slightly intrigued by this No Remorse Corps. I definately can't wait for Hero to come back, and see who is in his stable. I would keep him and Claudio together for the time being, and bring in Quackenbush and Albright to round out the stable.

[blake639raw]

Also, it's time for Ring of Honor to MAN UP!

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Quack as a heel? :-\

[blake639raw]

I don't see why not. All he would have to do is be with Hero & Sweeney and that's enough to be honest. He wouldn't even need to talk hardly any at all. I mean, he's with Hero & Sweeney.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

That'd kind of be a waste though, as he is a very good talker. I dunno he just seems to have natural face charisma IMO

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Joe's final opponent as a regular will be against.............................Homicide

Which is pretty fucking lame, if you ask me

[Innovator]

Joe's final opponent as a regular will be against.............................Homicide

Which is pretty fucking lame, if you ask meNah I like it. It makes the most sense given their history in ROH.

I mean it wasn't like we'd get Low Ki vs. Joe II.....dammit

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Yes it does in that sense. But it's also a match that has been done to death, and I can't help but be anything but skeptical that it won't be a glorified exhibition.

[Gulak]

Expect it to be everything that Colt Cabana vs CM Punk was.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

A glorified exhibition, then

[Gulak]

A glorified exhibition, then
Yup. With everyone crying. They coulda did better.

[Innovator]

This won't be the last time we see Joe in ROH

Cmon, would Gabe just have Mori lose to Joe the night before Mori won the title for nothing?

What if come August or September Mori is still undefeated, challenges anyone to come get him, out comes Joe, place erupts and Final Battle 2007 is set.

[blake639raw]

Go to rohvideos.com for the new video wire. It's got clips of Morishima, the Briscoes winning the tag titles, Cabana/Jacobs, and Joe's ring entrance from his final ROH match in the United States. Truly a touching moment. :'(

[thecc]

So how about them Chikara guys getting booked in April.

[Blitz]

Which guys?

[thecc]

Jigsaw, Hallowicked, and Gran Akuma

[ron the dial]

Yeah, definitely looking forward to seeing those guys in person.

[Blitz]

Nice.

[thecc]

and KEVIN STEEN :D

[TheProfessional]

and KEVIN STEEN :D

kevin steen captured my heart and mind in philly. best tag match i've seen in a long, long, long time. when the "mr. wrestling" chant kicked in i got super pumped. it's still real to me.

[thecc]

Kevin Steen is the shit. Anytime him and super dragon wrestle it's usually an insane match. Right Destor?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

They really need to do Generico/Steen vs Briscoes as a feud

[What Would Kevin Do?]

WHOOOOO!!!

Doi and Shingo just beat the Briscoes for the belts.
Mark Vs Jay Briscoe tomorrow.
Doi and Shingo vs Strong and Richards.
Briscoes get there tag rematch at the champs in Detroit, where I will be :)

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hey

Guess who was at both shows

Yeah that's right.

First things first, both shows are better than last year's UK shows, by a mile. They might not have the 1 or 2 outstanding matches of Unified, but they were better all-around shows by FAR.

I shall now attempt a briefish recap.

Night 1

Homicide vs Davey Richards
Decent, but not great. They had some miscommunication early on, but got it together as they went on. Homicide was waaaaaaaaaay over, and Davey got some good heat. Homicide via cop killer for the win.

Allison Danger vs Sara Del Ray
Ok, but nothing special. Unfortunately as always there are a few assholes when it comes to women's wrestling. Sara is great, and ridiculously hot in person, Allison is kinda hesitant a lot of times and very skinny. Seriously, if you've ever seen Del Ray on a SHIMMER DVD or whatever, she looks like a giant, but in reality she is perfectly proportioned. Sara wins via butterfly suplex.

Colt Cabana & BJ Whitmer vs Jimmy Rave & Jimmy Jacobs
Decent. Cabana is always way over in the UK, BJ was prett popular, Jacobs had his fair share of fans, and I don't know of anyone who doesn't hate Jimmy Rave. Couple nice spots, Jacobs wins (somewhat surprisingly) by pinning Whitmer after a Contra Code.

Matt Sydal vs Delirious - 2/3 Falls
Very good. Sydal's gradual heel turn is in full effect now, as he cheated for both his falls. He can be a great smug cocky heel if he keeps progressing. Delirious got a pop of Homicide-like proportions and was over for pretty much anything he did/said. Some nice one-liners as you'd expect. Sydal wins the first fall after distracting Sinclair and hitting a low blow before small packaging Delirious. 2nd fall has Sydal tap out to the Cobra Stretch. Final fall, Delirious was going for a move off the top, however Sydal bumped Sinclair into the ropes causing Delirious to slip, before Sydal hit the moonsault belly-to-belly (Flux Capacitor?) for the win.

Roderick Strong vs Pac - FIP title
Pac can fly really, really well. Unfortunately he might as well be a robot, as he has next to no personality. Strong had his fair share of fans but got some boos as well, so I think the turn is taking. Strong wins after Pac missed what looked like a reverse Phoenix Splash, big boot -> Gibson driver.

Briscoes vs Doi & Shingo - ROH Tag Team titles
You know how the Briscoes have been really awesome the last year? Yeah. The DG guys brought it all the way too, and this was easily match of the weekend for me. Shingo in particular was great, and by the end the crowd was coming somewhere close to a 50/50 split between who to support. I don't remember the finish, I *think* Shingo pinned Mark.

Samoa Joe vs Nigel McGuinness
Good, good stuff. Unfortunately there were a bunch of drunken pricks around where I was sitting who decided to just chant the most random bullshit and almost ruined the match, ended up having to move away but it worked out as got a better seat for the end. Joe hit Nigel with a muscle buster onto the apron, and they did an injury angle as Nigel was being helped out. Joe repeatedly asked for a handshake before calling Nigel a pussy, which prompted him to return to the ring and slap Joe square in the face, after which he *almost* pulled off the Superman comeback, before passing out in the choke.

Night 2

Colt Cabana vs Delirious
Fantastic comedy match. Far too many things to list here, but if you can find a clip of Big Daddy on youtube or something you will have a vague idea of what Cabana's schtick was here. Delirious wins with a rollup.

Sara Del Ray & Allison Danger vs Jetta & 'Jezebel' Eden Black
Challenge match after Jetta and Black called out the SHIMMER girls the night before. Kinda ties in as Black will be wrestling on the next SHIMMER taping, so it works. Better heat than the singles match the night before, Jetta and Black wrestled as total heels. At one point Black had Danger in a triangle choke (her finish) but Del Ray made the save. Sara picks up the win with the butterfly choke into suplex on Jetta (I think)

BJ Whitmer vs Jimmy Jacobs - Falls Count Anywhere
Match started before the women had even left the ring, as they brawled through the back of the crowd. Solid pro-BJ support with a smattering of Jacobs fans. At one point Jimmy hit a sweet balcony dive. Whitmer got spiked 3 or 4 times and had a total crimson mask, bled all over the ring. Jimmy started rolling around in the blood, maniac that he now is. Whitmer hit a brainbuster on the ramp for the win.

Matt Sydal vs Pac
Nice little high flying match. Pac blew a spot or two but nothing horrible. Sydal's subtle heel schtick is coming along nicely, before long I think he will be something pretty special. Sydal wins with the SSP

Jay Briscoe vs Mark Briscoe
If you've seen a Briscoes match in the last year, you can guess what this was like. If you don't like their stuff, you'll hate this. If you like it, this will be right up your street. Head drops, high flying, spots galore. Match ended in a draw after neither man could answer the referee's 10 count.

Roderick Strong & Davey Richards vs Shingo & Doi - ROH Tag Team titles
The DG guys were *over*. Strong and Richards had some nice heat but to be honest it was almost all for Davey - he's doing really well in playing off the crowd. Strong is basically the same guy he was before he turned and he needs to do something to change up a little, IMO. In both his matches he did tease the chops a few times before doing an eyepoke or little stuff like that, but whereas Sydal is gradually turning and that sort of thing works for him, Strong is already meant to be full-blown heel.

Anyway, rant aside this was very good again, not as good as the Briscoes - DG match but still very good. Again Shingo stole the show for me, the crowd were waaaaaaaaay behind him in particular. Doi pins Davey after a top rope fireman's carry into faceplant (yes I know there's a name for it :p )

Nigel McGuinness vs Jimmy Rave - Fight Without Honor
I dunno if Jimmy is quite a main eventer yet, but he can take an asskicking. My God, did he take an asskicking. All I'm gonna say is, Tower of London onto a guardrail.

Nigel wins with the rebound lariat.

Samoa Joe vs Homicide
Julius Smokes is great. At one point Homicide wiped out 4-5 people in the front row with his tope con hilo because they weren't looking. Other than that, I'm not really gonna write much about this cause chances are if you're reading this, you'll want to see it for yourself. Good match, better than I expected (and I feared the worst)

So yeah, there you go. Great, great shows both. Liverpool (or at least, the area around the Olympia) is not the greatest, but it was worth the 5 hour coach ride and all the other crap, easily. Definite DVD purchases - seriously, I am the most jaded, cynical, thinks-he-knows-it-all bastards there is, and at LEAST 4 times over the weekend I was shocked/stunned/gobsmacked by what I saw.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I love ROH.

Just saying.

[Innovator]

Got Final Battle 2006 last week

Everyone go out of your way to see the Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, Delirious vs. Matt Sydal, Shingo, and CIMA match

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Random pics from random places from the weekend

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7589/ole2copyvj9.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/classic-cabana/rohliverpool012.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/classic-cabana/rohliverpool005.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l290/classic-cabana/rohliverpool004.jpg

[What Would Kevin Do?]

That Ole kick picture is badass.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

http://www.dailymotion.com/search/roh/video/x1dljx_the-main-event-roh

Watch it with the music off. Seriously :$

[Mr. Nerfect]

ROH is the best wrestling promotion in the world today, no doubt about it.

Naruki Doi and SHINGO winning the ROH World Tag Team Championship surprised the fuck out of me. If they have the potential to be good Champions, I think I'll live.

[Fignuts]

You know, some people shit on Shingo Takagi, but when I saw him at ROH against curry man, he was pretty darn good. And I'm sure he has progressed quite a bit since then.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Shingo was the man at the weekend. Seriously, he was totally on point in everything he did.

[ron the dial]

I was sold on Shingo after I saw him put Roddy through a table. I really do like the guy a lot. Kinda surprised by him and Doi picking up the tag titles, but I like it.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

<table style="width: 485px; height: 649px;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"> <hr noshade="noshade" size="1"></td> </tr> <tr> <td height="100%" valign="top"> "All Star Extravaganza III" on March 30th in Detroit is really beginning to take shape as four huge matches have just been announced. Tickets are now on sale at ROHwrestling.com or by calling 215-781-2500. Lets get right to the huge news!!!

The "All Star" theme will give the show one of the most unique interpromotional matches in ROH history. A team of ROH all stars will face a team of Dragon Gate all stars in an eight man Dragon Gate Rules match. The ROH side will have Austin Aries, Delirious, Rocky Romero and oddly enough Claudio Castagnoli has been selected. The Dragon Gate side will consist of CIMA, Susumu Yokosuka, Dragon Kid and Ryo Saito. Do we really need to hype this one?

Also signed is a bout pitting two of the hardest kickers from Dragon Gate and ROH. It will be Davey Richards vs. Masaaki Mochizuki.

The final ROH vs. Dragon Gate match had already been announced as new ROH World Tag Team Champions Naruki Doi & Shingo will defend the belts against Jay & Mark Briscoe. These two teams stole the show in England and now they will try to do the same in Deroit.

As if all this isn't enough for you, one of the biggest singles matches in ROH has been signed for this event. Former partners will collide when Roderick Strong faces Jack Evans. ROH is pulling out all the stops for this all star worthy card!!!

We'll have more news in the upcoming weeks on all these matches.

Don't forget the legendary Bruno Sammartino will be at this event and he will be available for autographs and to meet the fans.

Keep checking the ROHwrestling.com Newswire as much more will be announced in the upcoming weeks for March 30th in Detroit with Colt Cabana, Christopher Daniels, Homicide, Nigel McGuinness, BJ Whitmer, Jimmy Jacobs with Lacey, Daizee Haze, Adam Pearce with Shane Hagadorn, Brent Albright, Chris Hero with Larry Sweeney, Matt Sydal and more!!! Tickets are selling fast so get yours now at ROHwrestling.com or by calling 215-781-2500.



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So yeah, those 4 matches, plus Strong Vs Aries at Supercard of Honor 2, along with the Dragongate 8 man, and Jacobs Vs Whitmer in a cage at some point that weekend. It's going to be fucking badass.

[Fignuts]

Does Strong still have that FIP title? I imagine he would be defending it against evans if he did.

Also, with all the heaping amounts of interpromotional work thats going on between ROH, Noah, and Dragongate, I have five words for you:


ROH in the next Firepro

[Jordan]

ohhhhh I didn't think of that, god I hope that happens.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

If there is another Firepro.

Although I would kill small children for a PS3 firepro.

[Fignuts]

If there is another Firepro.

Although I would kill small children for a PS3 firepro.

Spike has already confirmed that R was not a final send off, but an actual return, as the name implies, and they do plan on releasing more in the future.

Although I would expect KOC 3 first. Which I have no problem with tbh. If the next KOC has 6 and 8 man tags, a deathmatch, and more indy wrestlers, I don't know if I would ever go back to Fire Pro.

[Fignuts]

Also, is the PS3 region coded? There were rumors before it came out that it wasn't, and no modding would be nessecary to play imports.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I have to admit for a while I was a little worried ROH had peaked at Glory by Honor V, but the whole 5th Year Festival really seems to have kicked everything into high gear again.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The PS3 is NOT region coded for PS3 games. So you can play imported PS3 games... It just doesn't play import ps/ps2 games.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Nigel done broke Jimmy Rave's jaw :o

[Innovator]

Jimmy's out 8-12 weeks

[What Would Kevin Do?]

:(

Damn, I like Jimmy Rave.

Still, he's a tough bastard, as he wrestled over the weekend.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Jacobs Answers Whitmer's Steel Cage Challenge
Wednesday, March 14, 2007

Jimmy Jacobs has accepted BJ Whitmer's challenge for a Steel Cage Match in Detroit. The match will be at "Supercard Of Honor II" and the escape rule has been waived. These two hated enemies will be locked in the Steel Cage and weapons will be allowed. The match goes on until one man is pinned or submits. This one will be brutal and violent. Here is Jacobs' response to Whitmer's challenge and thoughts on this huge match:

"March 31, 2007 is my prom night. It's where everything comes to a head. In a moment of poetic justice, almost exactly one year to the date, in the same city, in the same building, in the same ring where you almost killed me, we'll be locked together inside a steel cage until one of us can't get out on their own volition. If for one moment you believe that challenging me to a steel cage match or the idea of such a violent match scares me, then you clearly underestimate me. For the past year, I've stood toe to toe with you, never backed down in the face of violence, blood and danger; and to your credit, you've never backed down either. You're fueled by a powerful emotion. You're fueled by hate. I see it in your words to me, the way you glare at me, the way you strike me, the very manner in which you perceive me. I'm fueled by that same hate for you. In a steel cage, without regard for dignity, reputation, self respect or safety, we will battle, we will bleed, we will fight in the name of that hate. But the difference between you and me is that I fight for something more. I fight for love. When the sun rises on the morning of April 1, it will be a new day. And in marring you, I unionize an unbreakable bond between Lacey and me. This is act 3, my friend. It always ends the same. The villain gets what's coming to him, and the hero gets the girl." - Jimmy Jacobs

Tickets are now on sale at www.ROHwrestling.com (http://www.rohwrestling.com/) or by calling for this huge event. Here is how "Supercard Of Honor II" is shaping up on March 31st in Detroit:

Dragon Gate Rules Six Man Match Of The Year Rematch
CIMA, Shingo & Susumu Yokosuka vs. Dragon Kid, Ryo Saito & Masaaki Mochizuki

FIP World Heavyweight Title Match
Roderick Strong defends vs. Austin Aries

Steel Cage Match
BJ Whitmer w/Daizee Haze vs. Jimmy Jacobs w/Lacey

Fifth Year Festival Rematch
Christopher Daniels & Matt Sydal vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe

Special Challenge Tag Team Match
Jack Evans & Naruki Doi vs. Davey Richards & the newest member of the No Remorse Corps

Plus much more to be signed with: Homicide, Colt Cabana, Nigel McGuinness, Rocky Romero, Adam Pearce with Shane Hagadorn, Chris Hero with Larry Sweeney, Brent Albright, Delirious, Yamato Onodera, Pelle Primeau and more!!!

[Innovator]

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[Innovator]

New video wire, all about Joe's farewell

[thecc]

Mike F'N Quackenbush will finally be wrestling for ring of honor :D

[Mr. Monday Morning]

^ What he said

Hopefully they stick him in against Claudio at some point and they tear the place down

[Blitz]

Quack in ROH? Nice.

[Blitz]

So I may actually be going to the Friday show in MI now. And for free, no less.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

So I may actually be going to the Friday show in MI now. And for free, no less.

Good man. Shame you'll be missing the DG six man, and the cage match on the second night ;)

Whereabouts ya gonna be?

[Blitz]

No idea. No idea if I am going for sure. Friend of mine has 4 free tickets, and still needs someone to drive. So I will find out for sure in the next few days.

Yeah, too bad I will prolly miss the DG 6 man. But the cage match has BJ Whitmer, so I can live with missing that.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I know what ya mean about BJ. I'm not a fan of him. With that said, his feud with Jacobs has been amazing... Of course, it is all because of Jacobs... Anyone could have really played the part of Whitmer.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Motor City Machine Guns ~~~~~~~~~~~~

[ron the dial]

Motor City Machine Guns ~~~~~~~~~~~~
This was one of the greatest and unexpected developments that I could have hoped for. HOLY SHIT, is all I have to say about it really.

[Impact!]

Whats happened now?

[ron the dial]

The Briscoes won the tag titles (and apparently Mark botched an SSP to the outside and hurt himself), and the team of Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley (MCMG) have challenged them for the titles on 4/28 in Chicago.

[Impact!]

Awesome :D

[What Would Kevin Do?]

That entire show was fucking intense.

I was in the second row right in front of Mark when he screwed up the SSP. It was fucking scary. The match basically stopped. Apparently he has a severe concussion. Amazingly enough though, he was arguing saying he could finish the match.

The Jack Vs Roderick match was insane. Some brutal stuff going on in that match. One of the most brutal things was Roderick, on the outside, doing a fall away slam to JAck into the ring post.

The 8 man tag was awesome and hella fun.

Seriously, every match was good, and the double main events were great. I can't wait for tonight.

Also, watching Jimmy Jacobs spear Daizee Haze, and Daizee's shoes flying off into the crowd was a fucking awesome sight.

[ron the dial]

Sounds like a good night. Wish I could have made it out like I had originally intended to.

And seeing Daizee's shoe fly off in Chicago was fucking crazy. Can't imagine both of them popping off. She's a hard ass, for sure.

[RGWhat316]

I admit that I haven't followed ROH too much, but I dedided to go to last nights show for the hell of it. And it was on hell of a show. I haven't officially decided, but I may go to the second show tonight as well.

I saw a bunch of crazy spots, and still continue to be impressed with Jack Evans. The guy can twist and turn in the air better than anyone else I've seen. And the Briscoe's incident was pretty scary looking. I was by the entrance, but he did it off the other side of the ring, so what I saw him do was run, jump straight to the top rope, and immediately attempt the SSP. I didnt the hit actually go down, but at the speed he was going, and with his head not all the way around, I could tell the way he was gonna land.

I may go tonight just to see the cage match, and the spots they would do with that.

[Blitz]

Wish I could've gone :(

[Skippord]

WAIT A GOD DAMN SECOND CHRIS SABIN AND ALEX SHELLEY ARE TEAMING

I'm moving to ROH country

[thecc]

WAIT A GOD DAMN SECOND CHRIS SABIN AND ALEX SHELLEY ARE TEAMING

I'm moving to ROH countryThey've been teaming for almost a year, I believe.

[Skippord]

WHY AM I JUST LEARNING OF THIS

[RGWhat316]

I did decide to go to the second show, and it was just as good as the first. We were right by the entrance again, and my one friend was saying shit to Daniels, and Daniels was giving it right back.

Match of the night to me was the Jacobs/Whitmer cage match. It was just nasty looking, they really tried to tear each other apart. Even at one point, they both had spikes and were nailing each other at the same time 10-15 times! Jacobs got the win which was kind of surprising, but he got no celebration with Lacey as BJ piledrove her.

Chris Hero brought out his special celebrity friend, Johnny Fairplay. And me and my buddy got one chant started, a "f him up Nigel" chant going to Fairplay.

One last interesting note, I saw Little Bastard or Hornswoggle talking to one of the workers near the entrance, but not in plain view.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Great fucking card again. Apparently Jimmy lost two teeth :(

Second row again. The cage match was intense, the 6 man was insane, Aries Vs Strong was good too. Overall, the card was damn good.

Evans and Doi also did a bad ass spot where Doi had Richards in a fireman's carry, and Evans hit a double stomp off the top rope and moonsaulted over the ropes to Romero on the outside. Pretty slick really.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

WHY AM I JUST LEARNING OF THIS

Dude, seriously. They've tagged in PWG, Chikara, all over the shop. Hell, they're the current (afaik) Zero-1 MAX Jr Tag Champions.

Some fan of Sabin you are :roll:

[Skippord]

I'm clearly very lazy

[Innovator]

ATTA BOY JIMMY

now he's gonna get some

[What Would Kevin Do?]

This was posted by Gabe at the ROH messageboard.

---------
Since there is so much speculation about Mark Briscoe's injury I figured I'd post this before I get to writing a newswire later. Here is everything from my perspective for what were some very scary moments.

Before I get to my story the update now is that Mark suffered a concussion and he will be ok. Right now he is questionable for 4/13 & 14, but he will definitely be good to go for the end of the month in St. Paul and Chicago.

First a little background. Mark has been sick basically since the UK trip. He was even in the hospital for a few days due to strep throat. So he was entering the match a little weaker than usual. He went for the SSP and didn't rotate all the way around. I was watching the match on the moniter in the back, which gets the hard cam feed. I jumped up as soon as I saw it and headed straight for ringside. I can't tell you what an awful feeling it is making that run to ringside not knowing what you are going to find.

I get there and Mark is laying on his back with a small puddle of blood around his head. His eyes are glazed over. Mark said his tongue and fingers were tingling. We had some medics there so Cary and I immediately ran to them in the back of the building.

When I got back to ringside Mark was able to move everything. I asked him where he was and he said "Chicago." He asked me what he did and I told him a SSP. He then said he could get back in the match. BJ Whitmer was down at ringside at this point and told him to stay there due to the head injury. Mark then asked me again what happened and what's going on. I told him again he did a SSP and the match is going on. He told me again he was ready to get back in the ring. I asked him if he remembered anything for the rest of the match and he said no. The medics got to him and while they were putting a neck brack on and getting him on a stretcher Mark kept insisting he could get back in the ring. While they were getting ready to take Mark out, Jay won the tag titles so I told him. He was in good spirits and relaxed.

Mark was given a catscan and tests and everything came up as good as possible. They kept him in the hospital just to be safe and for observation. I didn't get an update today, but he is with family now and they will drive him home when he's ready to go.

So basically the end result of this really scary accident is that Mark has a concussion and has to take it easy for a couple of weeks. We'll have updates in the newswire on if he can do 4/13 & 4/14 and his current status. Don't worry, he won't rush back and he will return only if he's 100% cleared and ready.

Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Alex Shelley & Chris Sabin is official for 4/28 in Chicago.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

FUCK!!!

Jimmy Jacobs completely tore his ACL, needs surgery, and will be out 6-9 months :(

[blake639raw]

Man, tough break for Jacobs. Right after the biggest win of his career. Well, hopefully he keeps a chance to keep developing his character on the shows at least, and get over that way. Also, Mark Briscoe is a badass son of a bitch, and will eat your children if he wants to.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Some rich tycoon who enjoys Ring of Honor needs to get them a PPV deal. I would order this shit in a second.

The Briscoe Brothers have been winning me over like shit. I can't see them as a WWE tag team without some kind of shitty make-over, but in the independant scene, they are Tag Team Gods. With Motor City Machine Guns stepping up to face them, I expect some goodness.

Brent Albright is a fucking beast. A feud with Homicide will kick ass, for sure.

I love the deal with Dragon Gate. Some of the shit they put on is fucking outstanding. I know Destor hates him, but Jack Evans can do some amazing shit. A double stomp to a guy in a fireman's carry straight into a moonsault to the floor? That shit is fucking crazy.

I really wish Ring of Honor reached a wider audience.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Thing is though if they went to PPV they'd first have to go to TV. And I'm pretty sure as things stand, they feel they're making enough money (actually turning a profit, which is rare) that the hassle of having to put together a TV show (and the cost) would outweigh the benefits.

I can see how it would be very difficult for someone new to get into it though, as most things happen through a run of shows. Unless you're just willing to wait for a sale every few months and play catchup it can get expensive.

Jack has improved a lot since he went over to DG. He'd still cause some people to have movez~ or spotz~ heart attacks but he's a better spot monkey than most.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Some pictures from both nights
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-13.jpg
Homicide and Colt Cabana

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-04.jpg
CIMA and some streamers
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-25-1.jpg

Jay Brisco and Delirious.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-26.jpg

Larry Sweeny, Chris Hero, Tank Toland, and Bruno.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-21.jpg
Naruki Doi

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-12.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-11.jpg
Damn Jack is flexible

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-08.jpg
And I mean damn.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-17.jpg

Nigel before killing Johnny Fairplay
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-06.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/ROH-02.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-07.jpg
Jimmy after the cage

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-12.jpg


Nigel and I.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-01.jpg

Naruki Doi, my girlfriend, and I.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/whatwouldkevindo/4-1-2007-02.jpg

CIMA, my girlfriend, and I.

[RGWhat316]

They made a fan out of me this weekend. I definitely want to go back to the next Detroit show in September.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

They made a fan out of me this weekend. I definitely want to go back to the next Detroit show in September.


I've already bought my tickets.

It's my belief now, that anyone who goes to an ROH show will be a fan. People say ROH is overhyped, but they honestly do put on the consistantly best shows of any wrestling company in the world right now.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Hey, you're not Chinese! :mad:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I am too.

[redoneja]

That's the same shirt you were wearing in your old profile pic, isn't it?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Nah, the other shirt was white and black, with a bit of a different design.

Close though.

[Jordan]

How big was the crowd?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I believe 1000 -1200 both nights. Not positive though.

[IC Champion]

RING OF HOMICIDE

[The Fugitive]

Right, so I'm looking at the ROH store and I've got a quick question.

There's a 15-20% off sale right now. Does ROH have an once a year sale where they have a higher discount rate or is that the best they offer?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

They have a sale pretty much every other week, it depends what you are looking for. Sometimes they'll have bigger sales on specific stuff, like shoot interviews. Sometimes they have sales specifically on older stuff.

But more to the point, about 2-3 times a year they have a 25% off everything sale. If you really want to hold on for that then do so, but they do 20% off, or buy 3 get 1 free, fairly often.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That was cool of the guys to take photos with you. CIMA and Naruki Doi are just visiting, but they still take time to chill with the fans.

And ROH is not overhyper. Some of the matches aren't my cup of tea (they aren't bad, but I do think that sometimes guys go for about an hour or so, when they really don't need to), but they have more sports than either WWE or TNA, and they arguably have more entertainment, too.

[Mr. JL]

CIMA and Naruki Doi are awesome. I just recieved the 'Better Than Our Best' DVD and their match with Aries and Strong was off the charts. Just phenomenal. Also, the Storm-Danielson match from this show was brilliant too.

I haven't been following RoH for a while now, but I'm going to try to pick up some more DVD's and catch up on things.

[The Fugitive]

They have a sale pretty much every other week, it depends what you are looking for. Sometimes they'll have bigger sales on specific stuff, like shoot interviews. Sometimes they have sales specifically on older stuff.

But more to the point, about 2-3 times a year they have a 25% off everything sale. If you really want to hold on for that then do so, but they do 20% off, or buy 3 get 1 free, fairly often.

Thanks for that. I was looking at getting a shirt for a show that's happening here in June, but then one shirt turned into 5 shirts, which then turned into that plus a cap, a hoodie and about 10 DVDs. :$

Knowing about that, I'll try and cut down my order to a reasonable amount and get some of the other stuff another time. Thanks again.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

And ROH is not overhyper. Some of the matches aren't my cup of tea (they aren't bad, but I do think that sometimes guys go for about an hour or so, when they really don't need to), but they have more sports than either WWE or TNA, and they arguably have more entertainment, too.

Honestly, up until they crippled themselves at the Detroit shows, Jimmy Loves Lacey and everyone involved in that angle was the best thing going I can think of in wrestling. Seriously. The whole thing has built over a freakin' YEAR and hasn't felt forced at all. Fantastic job by Gabe.

[blake639raw]

CIMA and Naruki Doi are awesome. I just recieved the 'Better Than Our Best' DVD and their match with Aries and Strong was off the charts. Just phenomenal. Also, the Storm-Danielson match from this show was brilliant too.

I haven't been following RoH for a while now, but I'm going to try to pick up some more DVD's and catch up on things. I'd recommend these 5 shows.

Main Event Spectacles
Manhattan Mayhem (at the time, considered by most fans to be their best show)
Death Before Dishonor 3 (Punk's title win; awesome prematch angle)
Glory By Honor V, Night 2 (Danielson/KENTA, Nigel/Marufuji, Briscoes/Joe & Homicide, Aries & Strong/Kings of Wrestling)
Final Battle 2006

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Thanks for that. I was looking at getting a shirt for a show that's happening here in June, but then one shirt turned into 5 shirts, which then turned into that plus a cap, a hoodie and about 10 DVDs. :$

Knowing about that, I'll try and cut down my order to a reasonable amount and get some of the other stuff another time. Thanks again.

30% off til Monday dude

[The Fugitive]

30% off til Monday dude

Heh, I got an email from ROH not that long ago and did a bit of shopping, but that's pretty cool that you remembered, thanks. :)

Must spread rep, yadda yadda yadda.

[loopydate]

Having never seen an ROH show in my life, I decided to check out this 30% off deal. I just ordered Round Robin Challenge III, Second Anniversary Show, and The Last Stand on VHS for $13.25, shipping included. I figure, get the stuff that's on sale, that way if I don't like it, I'm not out much. But three shows for less than the price of one WWE DVD is awesome.

[Innovator]

1) What are your feelings going into your final ROH weekend?

Colt Cabana: I've got all kinds of crazy feelings and emotions. I know I'm very excited. I'm excited to wrestle in front of the best and most appreciate wrestling crowd for one last time. I'm also a combination of nervous, scared, happy, constipated and sweaty all in that order. I'm really not sure if I'm looking forward or dreading this upcoming ROH Midwest weekend. I guess I'll just have to take it all in when we get there.

2) Lets look back at your career in ROH, what are some of your favorite matches that you've been involved in?

Cabana: I've had so many great and fond ROH memories. I'll be happy to list off some personal fave's. Maybe these are some of yours too. Of course, my first matches with CM Punk at the Murphy Rec Center and then top that off with when Punk and I became Tag Team Champions in front of our hometown against the Briscoe Brothers. I also have a soft spot in my heart for the time when Bobby Heenan managed me against Jim Cornette for everyone's first time. Wrestling Austin Aries in a cage, my catch-wrestling series with Nigel McGuiness, and standing victorious over Homicide after a brutal fight without honor. Other personal favorites include wrestling the greatest wrestler of our generation, Bryan Danielson, and having fun with my wrestling in singles matches with guys like Kikutaro, Spanky and Jack Evans.

3) What are some of your favorite moments that you were involved with in ROH?

Cabana: I know I wasn't involved in it, but I was in a way. That was being able to watch Samoa Joe wrestle Kenta Kobashi live from the top of the New Yorker. I don't think I'll ever forget watching that match sitting next to James Gibson and being so emotionally invested in it. Having fun with my talk show, "Good Times, Great Memories" was also just a pure blast. When Dusty Rhodes came on "my show", it was pretty surreal to sit there and have Ace goof on Dusty only for him to walk in and cut a promo on my hairline.

4) What do you want your legacy to be in ROH?

Cabana: I just want everyone to remember me as the meanest, toughest, hard-hittingest, stiffest prick in the business. People will tell their kids that they once ran into Colt Cabana at a bar and he beat up their son. "Colt once bent a keg in half", they'll say to their friends. That's how I'd like my legacy to be in ROH....PLEEEEEEASE.

5) What would you like to say to the fans that have watched you in ROH since 2002?

Thanks. Thanks for supporting me. Thanks for supporting ROH. Continue to support me. Continue to support ROH. Have fun enjoying pro wrestling and please don't take what you have in a company like this for granted because just imagine what you'd do if ROH wasn't around...think about it. How much would that suck?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm actually hoping they give Takeshi Morishima quite a long run with the ROH World Title. The guy seems like a pretty credible Champion, if you ask me.

His next scheduled title defense is against Austin Aries. Morishima should go over there, and following that could be a rematch with Homicide. Doug Williams defeated Morishima in a tag team match recently, so they could give him a title shot based on that. Just keep Morishima rolling.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Shingo is up next after Aries. I know a lot of people don't like him but for me Shingo has been great the last 2 months.

The intial list of NOAH names for the first show in Japan has been released - Morishima, KENTA, Marafuji, Shiosaki and RICKY MARVIN will all be there. Which is awesome.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

They really need to get Jun Akiyama on that list.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

sadfdagsdg

Quack and Jigsaw up against the Briscoes as part of Ultimate Endurance on Friday :love: :love: :love:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shingo is up next after Aries. I know a lot of people don't like him but for me Shingo has been great the last 2 months.

The intial list of NOAH names for the first show in Japan has been released - Morishima, KENTA, Marafuji, Shiosaki and RICKY MARVIN will all be there. Which is awesome.

Ah, yes, I forgot about Shingo. He is indeed awesome.

I'd love to see The Briscoe Brothers defend the ROH World Tag Team Championship against KENTA and Naomichi Marufuji. That would be a sweet ass tag team match. For some reason, I also get excited at the prospect of a Ricky Marvin vs. Matt Sydal match.

Anyway, here are my predictions for what is confirmed for ROH this Friday in St. Paul:

The Minnesota Home Wrecking Crew will take on the team of The Dangerous Angels. The Wrecking Crew (Rain & Lacey) are the hometown girls, and SHIMMER and ROH appear to be increasing their association with SHIMMER. What better way to solidify that relationship than to have Allison Danger and Sara Del Ray lose their first match as a tag team in ROH? I think Rain & Lacey should get the win here.

BJ Whitmer will face Shingo in a "Special Challenge" on Friday. As he is heading into a ROH World Title match the next night, I think Shingo should get a little bit of momentum. This will be a hard-hitting affair, but Shingo should ultimately go over.

Colt Cabana will team with Homicide to take on Brent Albright and Adam Pearce. I love Albright, but I just don't see his team taking it. Cabana has lost every match on his farewell tour, he should get at least one win. Pearce will get to go over Cabana the next night in Chicago. I expect to see Homicide get the pin on Adam Pearce.

In the Four Corner Survival, Rocky Romero and Erick Stevens should cancel each other out. That leaves either Jack Evans or Delirious for the win. Evans seems to be picking up lots of little victories here and there, but I think Delirious will take it. Evans already has the push to create his own faction to war with the No Remorse Corps and The Resilience. Let's get Delirious in there. You also can't go wrong with putting your Survival Of The Fittest Tournament Winner over.

The Ultimate Endurance Match will be a proving ground for all the challengers. The Briscoes retain, but hopefully it won't be the end of Mike Quackenbush and Jigsaw.

Roderick Strong will hopefully retain the FIP World Heavyweight Championship against Christopher Daniels. They've only ever had Homicide and Bryan Danielson as former Champs, I don't see why FIP would want to pollute that by adding a TNA guy to the list. Hopefully Strong defends the belt on the Japan tour, and gets it a little more notoriety. I want to see Erick Stevens bring in the FIP Florida Heritage Championship, as well. At least momentarily. The Briscoe Brothers could also at least wear their FIP Tag Team Championships. With some defences of the FIP Tag Titles in Japan, they could become seen as belts worth holding.

There is a little part of me that would mark out for sticking it to the man, and putting Austin Aries over Takeshi Morishima, showing Aries where his home is. The SuperStarr has always been better in ROH than in TNA, in my opinion. Putting the ROH World Title on the leader of The Resilience will also make them credible. Then they just bring in the FIP Florita Heritage Championship for some defences, and The Resilience is actually looking pretty good. Not bad for a stable lacking credibility. There is a lot of attention in Japan because of Morishima's possession of the belt, so that is probably a good thing for ROH. Morishima will in all likelihood retain here, and that's the way it should be.

Now for my Chicago thoughts:

Man, The Resilience have been taking a fucking beating. Austin Aries should beat Rocky Romero, as he is the leader of the group. Plus he will need to save face after losing to Morshima the night before.

It's kind of cool that Christopher Daniels is facing the FIP World Heavyweight Champion one night, and then the FIP Florida Heritage Champion the next. They should have Stevens put his belt on the line here, and successfully defend it.

Roderick Strong doesn't seem to be defending his FIP World Heavyweight Title against Jack Evans. Boo! Make the match for the Title, and have Davey Richards and Rocky Romero help Strong retain, which is eventually what pushes Evans over the edge into creating his own faction to battle in this developing war.

Mike Quackenbush, Gran Akuma, Jigsaw and Hallowicked will get another chance to prove themselves in a Six Man Mayhem Match. I doubt either will get the win, nor do I think Pelle Primeau will get it, so that leaves Delirious. Once again, you can't go wrong with putting over your Survival Of The Fittest Tournament Winner. Mike Quackenbush winning to establish notice isn't beyond the realm of possibility, though.

Homicide, BJ Whitmer and Brent Albright will clash in a three-way match. I'm going to rule out Homicide as a winner, as he goes over the previous night. It's either going to be Whitmer or Albright, methinks. Seeing as Whitmer loses more often than Albright, and because Albright only loses in a tag team match the previous night, Whitmer should take it here.

The Briscoe Brothers vs. The Motor City Machine Guns will be awesome. Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley won't likely win the belts, but they apparently work splendidly as a team. After this defence, and Ultimate Endurance, I honestly believe that The Briscoes will have qualified for a successful World Tag Title reign. I think they could lose the Championship the next night, and it wouldn't be a big issue. It's good to see ROH giving the tag team division some love.

Adam Pearce is getting quite the rub going over Colt Cabana. Good on him. :y:

Shingo will make a fun challenger to Takeshi Morishima. I don't think Shingo is yet established to take the ROH World Championship. This will be a good showcase for him, though.

[Innovator]

Cabana will go on last in Chicago

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ah, yes, I forgot about Shingo. He is indeed awesome.

I'd love to see The Briscoe Brothers defend the ROH World Tag Team Championship against KENTA and Naomichi Marufuji. That would be a sweet ass tag team match. For some reason, I also get excited at the prospect of a Ricky Marvin vs. Matt Sydal match.

I don't know why but I didn't really enjoy their match in September all that much. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't bad, but I've seen so many really good Briscoes matches in the last year or so it doesn't really stack up. For whatever reason when they're in there with KENTA it just doesn't seem to click.

I am right there on Marvin vs Sydal though. Off the top of my head I can't think of anyone who's come along more than Sydal in the last 6 months, and Marvin is 31 flavors of awesome. Sign me up for that one.

Anyway, here are my predictions for what is confirmed for ROH this Friday in St. Paul:

The Minnesota Home Wrecking Crew will take on the team of The Dangerous Angels. The Wrecking Crew (Rain & Lacey) are the hometown girls, and SHIMMER and ROH appear to be increasing their association with SHIMMER. What better way to solidify that relationship than to have Allison Danger and Sara Del Ray lose their first match as a tag team in ROH? I think Rain & Lacey should get the win here.

No argument here, although tbh Sara is the only one who has consistently impressed me. Lacey can be a bit hit or miss, Allison is all over the shop and IMO overrated, and I've never really seen anything from Rain (though I have heard good things)

BJ Whitmer will face Shingo in a "Special Challenge" on Friday. As he is heading into a ROH World Title match the next night, I think Shingo should get a little bit of momentum. This will be a hard-hitting affair, but Shingo should ultimately go over.

I don't really like Whitmer, to be honest. BUT, I do appreciate the fact that he seems to have realised what he can do well (take ridiculous beatings) and is working at just being the best he can be at doing that. I don't like the idea of these two matching up, truthfully, but yeah I can see Shingo getting the duke to get the 'rub' from the ROH resident tough guy.

Colt Cabana will team with Homicide to take on Brent Albright and Adam Pearce. I love Albright, but I just don't see his team taking it. Cabana has lost every match on his farewell tour, he should get at least one win. Pearce will get to go over Cabana the next night in Chicago. I expect to see Homicide get the pin on Adam Pearce.

Dunno, I can't see Pearce needing to go over Colt to be honest, he's fine in the little niche he's carved for himself. But, I can't see Cabana winning here either. Who knows, maybe more Cornette shenanigans?

In the Four Corner Survival, Rocky Romero and Erick Stevens should cancel each other out. That leaves either Jack Evans or Delirious for the win. Evans seems to be picking up lots of little victories here and there, but I think Delirious will take it. Evans already has the push to create his own faction to war with the No Remorse Corps and The Resilience. Let's get Delirious in there. You also can't go wrong with putting your Survival Of The Fittest Tournament Winner over.

Sound reasoning. I could maybe see Stevens getting the win as he needs something to establish himself (Aries is basically leading a couple of ROH n00bs right now) but Delirious shows his usefulness here, as he can realistically win or lose a bunch of different matches and not be hurt at all.

The Ultimate Endurance Match will be a proving ground for all the challengers. The Briscoes retain, but hopefully it won't be the end of Mike Quackenbush and Jigsaw.

Get Pelle's team out early, have 'Wicked and Akuma hang for a bit before Akuma turns on him and walks out (or somesuch) and then let them go for 10-15. PLEAAAAAASE.

Roderick Strong will hopefully retain the FIP World Heavyweight Championship against Christopher Daniels. They've only ever had Homicide and Bryan Danielson as former Champs, I don't see why FIP would want to pollute that by adding a TNA guy to the list. Hopefully Strong defends the belt on the Japan tour, and gets it a little more notoriety. I want to see Erick Stevens bring in the FIP Florida Heritage Championship, as well. At least momentarily. The Briscoe Brothers could also at least wear their FIP Tag Team Championships. With some defences of the FIP Tag Titles in Japan, they could become seen as belts worth holding.

Not sure of the logic here and I don't really like Daniels all that much. I think he's playing heel now too, so this could be a real mess.

There is a little part of me that would mark out for sticking it to the man, and putting Austin Aries over Takeshi Morishima, showing Aries where his home is. The SuperStarr has always been better in ROH than in TNA, in my opinion. Putting the ROH World Title on the leader of The Resilience will also make them credible. Then they just bring in the FIP Florita Heritage Championship for some defences, and The Resilience is actually looking pretty good. Not bad for a stable lacking credibility. There is a lot of attention in Japan because of Morishima's possession of the belt, so that is probably a good thing for ROH. Morishima will in all likelihood retain here, and that's the way it should be.

Now that he's been suspended AGAIN, I can't see him going back to TNA to be honest. He'll put up a cagey fight but there's no way he beats Mori.

Now for my Chicago thoughts:

Man, The Resilience have been taking a fucking beating. Austin Aries should beat Rocky Romero, as he is the leader of the group. Plus he will need to save face after losing to Morshima the night before.

I can see this being some sort of schmozz. Not sure if Davey and Matt Cross are booked but it could easily turn into a tag, which I'd then assume means Aries over Davey.

It's kind of cool that Christopher Daniels is facing the FIP World Heavyweight Champion one night, and then the FIP Florida Heritage Champion the next. They should have Stevens put his belt on the line here, and successfully defend it.

Don't really know enough about Stevens at this point, but again I don't really have high hopes.

Roderick Strong doesn't seem to be defending his FIP World Heavyweight Title against Jack Evans. Boo! Make the match for the Title, and have Davey Richards and Rocky Romero help Strong retain, which is eventually what pushes Evans over the edge into creating his own faction to battle in this developing war.

I need to see the FIP Evans vs Strong match Gabe always raves about. It's probably not half as good as he makes it sound, but I can see how it might work. Roddy apparently brutalised Jack last time around, and it could easily happen again.

Mike Quackenbush, Gran Akuma, Jigsaw and Hallowicked will get another chance to prove themselves in a Six Man Mayhem Match. I doubt either will get the win, nor do I think Pelle Primeau will get it, so that leaves Delirious. Once again, you can't go wrong with putting over your Survival Of The Fittest Tournament Winner. Mike Quackenbush winning to establish notice isn't beyond the realm of possibility, though.

6 Mans are never easy to call. Jigsaw will probably win just for the hell of it.

Homicide, BJ Whitmer and Brent Albright will clash in a three-way match. I'm going to rule out Homicide as a winner, as he goes over the previous night. It's either going to be Whitmer or Albright, methinks. Seeing as Whitmer loses more often than Albright, and because Albright only loses in a tag team match the previous night, Whitmer should take it here.

Whitmer's kinda stuck with nothing to do now Jimmy's gone and torn his ACL (for love) so I'm not sure exactly what they're planning with him, but 'cide and Albright definitely have a thing going, so I can see 'cide picking up the win but paying for it afterwards.

The Briscoe Brothers vs. The Motor City Machine Guns will be awesome. Chris Sabin and Alex Shelley won't likely win the belts, but they apparently work splendidly as a team. After this defence, and Ultimate Endurance, I honestly believe that The Briscoes will have qualified for a successful World Tag Title reign. I think they could lose the Championship the next night, and it wouldn't be a big issue. It's good to see ROH giving the tag team division some love.

I honestly don't see the big deal about Sabin, but I love me some Alex Shelley. And from the little I've seen of them they work extremely well together, so hopefully this will come together and be a beauty.

Adam Pearce is getting quite the rub going over Colt Cabana. Good on him. :y:

As noted above, I don't think he needs it. Cabana goes over in his hometown on the way out after thoroughly embarrassing Pearce.

Shingo will make a fun challenger to Takeshi Morishima. I don't think Shingo is yet established to take the ROH World Championship. This will be a good showcase for him, though.

I think it's Shingo's final ROH date, so there's no chance he's going over. Then again I thought there was no chance of him and Doi winning the tag titles, so what do I know?

[thecc]

Get Pelle's team out early, have 'Wicked and Akuma hang for a bit before Akuma turns on him and walks out (or somesuch) and then let them go for 10-15. PLEAAAAAASE.It would be the perfect opportunity to bring in Icarus so they can add Team fist to their tag team roster. What they could do is have Fist join either Hero's stable or the no remorse corp as their tag team. Then I could see this also as incoherence joining Jack Evans stable. I am definitely interested to see how this plays out.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Quack got streamers :love:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

OMG!

Steen/Generico vs Quack/Jigsaw and Quack vs Hero vs Claudio vs Nigel are signed

:love::love::love:

[The Fugitive]

As much as I hate bumping old threads, I didn't really want to create a new thread for the couple of things I had on my mind.

1) Looking at the ROH website, I noticed that the ROH Wrestling School is back in action. What shocked me is the new head trainer - Delirious. Now, if you don't know already, I LOVE the lizard-man, but considering the roster has Danielson, McGuinness and Aries, is he really the best choice for a head trainer?

2) I didn't see a thread on it, so I was just wondering what people's thoughts were on Rave's departure from ROH.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Rave leaving came as a surprise, but I can't say I'm REALLY upset. THere are people I like far more on the roster ( Jimmy jacobs for one) who have better characters and come across better.

I just wonder if he got pissed with his injuries. Say what you will, but when you get your jaw broken by a lariet, and the other guy gets pushed to the moon while you sit out injured, it could cause some sore feelings. Your opponent IS suppose to protect you, not hit you so hard he breaks your jaw.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I think he ruptured his eardrum very recently also. Just not been having a good time of it.

Shame, really. When he and Shelley were together in the Embassy I really, really feel they should've won the tag titles from Aries & Strong. They could've been monstrously over as heel champs for a LONG time. They did kinda try to reboot him slightly after the split what with feuding with Nigel but honestly I don't think there's very much left for him to do. I guess they could've tried a face turn but there's a high chance it could've bombed.

BTW Murder City Machine Guns vs Briscoes at Good Times Great Memories is fucking fantastic,

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Oh, yeah

www.project161.com

[ron the dial]

I was reading about that earlier (I've been a bit out of the loop lately). It's a pretty crazy angle that I hope has an amazing outcome. There seemes to be quite a bit of hype surrounding it, so there's a buzz to live up to.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Any angle that can make smark fans question its legitimacy is a damn good angle.

[KingofOldSchool]

So the other night Jimmy Jacobs made his return and BJ Whitmer turned heel and did an angle where he stapled Delirious's mask to his head.