View Full Version : Triple H comments on backstage power
Crippla
08-29-2006, 06:53 PM
The comments below are by Triple H when asked about his "backstage power" in the October issues of WWE Magazine:
"I haven't read a dirt sheet in 10 years. And that's the damn truth. Yes I'm in a top position. Yes I'm married to the boss's daughter. Yes I sit in production meetings. But, at the end of the day, there is only one person with the stroke in this business. And that's Vince McMahon. If he doesn't like something , whether it's my idea or not, it's not going to happen. I want guys like John Cena around. I want to bring new guys up and help make them. People always accuse me of not wanting to drop the belt to a guy. That's complete crap. I didn't drop the belt to RVD because no one asked me to drop it to RVD. I've yet to see Hulk Hogan lose to anybody. He wrestles once every 6 months, and it doesn't matter if you're the biggest name in active competition today, he's not going to lose to you. There was suppose to be a Hogan/Michaels 2, and Hogan was supposed to lose. All of a sudden his knee starting "bugging" him."
"People always accuse me of not wanting to drop the belt to a guy."
This just a few sentances after "I haven't read a dirt sheet in 10 years.".
LOL though, I think I just saw Kayfabe floating down the river covered in maggots.
Gerard
08-29-2006, 07:17 PM
He's yet to see hogan lose to anyone? Guess ol big nose wasn't around when hogan lost to brock and then angle and then lost the title to taker. Cute of him sticking up for his little clique buddy, after the amount of shit they got upto i dont think he's much room to talk.
Oh and i seem to recall someone "losing his smile" when he had to drop the title, last i checked a knee injurys slightly more beleivable.
Caged Heat18
08-29-2006, 07:23 PM
He's just mad because Hogan got a bigger pop than him at Summer Slam.
Crippla
08-29-2006, 07:29 PM
He's yet to see hogan lose to anyone? Guess ol big nose wasn't around when hogan lost to brock and then angle and then lost the title to taker. Cute of him sticking up for his little clique buddy, after the amount of shit they got upto i dont think he's much room to talk.
Oh and i seem to recall someone "losing his smile" when he had to drop the title, last i checked a knee injurys slightly more beleivable.
He's mad because he was the one who dropped the title to Hogan at Backlash 2002.
If I was Hogan, I wouldn't have lost to Shawn Michaels either.
And he probably wasn't told to lose to RVD. It was written for him to lose and it got changed. Wording it different makes him sound so great.
Johnny Vegas
08-29-2006, 07:34 PM
He's just mad, i guess.
If I was Hogan, I wouldn't have lost to Shawn Michaels either.
If I were Shawn Michaels, I'd be questioning why someone who is only there to put something of his over has to win against a top current main eventer.
Johnny Vegas
08-29-2006, 07:37 PM
Honestly, i really have no problem with Triple H having the backstage power he does, hell, half of us on TPWW would probably do the same thing. Personally, i still find him entertaining and the most legit heel threat in the WWE (probably because no one can overshadow him but we 'don't know that' ). The only time i really had a problem with it was when we won at Wrestlemania 19. He should have dropped the belt to Booker IMO, giving Booker a last REAL title run.
Johnny Vegas
08-29-2006, 07:37 PM
If I were Shawn Michaels, I'd be questioning why someone who is only there to put something of his over has to win against a top current main eventer.
Good point, Pro Dick.
Good point, Pro Dick.
Thank you, No Homo.
UmbrellaCorporation
08-29-2006, 07:42 PM
Triple H is the man. No question.
Crippla
08-29-2006, 07:45 PM
I like Triple H so I'll agree.
Kane Knight
08-29-2006, 07:46 PM
It cracks me up to see him justifying himself based on someone everyone is sick of as well.
Crippla
08-29-2006, 07:47 PM
Yeah, the whole article comes off as a joke to me but he still doesn't bother me.
did'nt wcw have hogan job to kidman. i have seen hogan job to alot of people.
Gerard
08-29-2006, 09:03 PM
What amazes me is the massive amount of ego that can come from a "sport" with predetermined outcomes. Guess triple h is just pissed as he's never come close to having the popularity of hogan in his prime. Guess his claim to fame in 15 years time will be something along the lines of "i banged the bosses daughter". :?: ..oh yeah and a hermaphodite.
YOUR Hero
08-29-2006, 09:05 PM
Classic case of misdirection. Like a little kid really. You get asked a question and then start talking about someone(something) else.
Parent: Did you stick that worm up Sarah's nose?
Kid: Uh... You see, she was holding that worm back. They've had a long feud over the past week, and the worm stuck itself up there.
St. Jimmy
08-29-2006, 09:33 PM
It cracks me up to see him justifying himself based on someone everyone is sick of as well.
With that said, this topic is passe'.
JTB31
08-30-2006, 03:00 AM
The difference between Shawn and Hogan is that Shawn would put on ****+ star matches on a daily basis and aslong as I was entertained I don't care if he refuses to put anybody over.Hogan on the other hand hardly does anything in the ring and let's his opponent do all the work yet he gets all the glory.HBK carried that feud with Hogan and carried the match.If Hogan could put on classic matches I wouldn't mind him winning all the time.
Dave Youell
08-30-2006, 06:21 AM
Hogan did jobs when he was under contract to Vince for a few years without creative control.
Since he's been coming back on one time deals he's yet to do the job, everyone knows he should of put over Orton as Summerslam as Hogan had absolutly nothing to gain from the win except for an ego rub.
As far as Hunter goes, yes he's pulled strings in the past, but recently, as in the last 2 years, I can't really fault him, he made Batista, made Cena look Credible and put over Benoit a few times.
His lowest point was the Mania 19 thing, but since Mania 20 I think he's doing what's good for business and not what's good for Hunter (well not ALL of the time anyway)
If I were Shawn Michaels, I'd be questioning why someone who is only there to put something of his over has to win against a top current main eventer.
Because Shawn Michaels never refused to work with or put over any of the Hart Foundation in 1997 or about 100 others in his singles run did he? Shawn Michaels didn't refused to drop the WWF title in his last match to Steve Austin in the company's biggest PPV of all time to that date did he?
Hulk Hogan only needs to comeback to feed his own ego. If he wants to put people over, that's up to him. Personally, if I were him, I would have put Orton over to make him a bigger star but putting over Shawn Michaels is nothing but a battle of two egos. Hogan drew more money and is a far bigger star than Michaels could ever be... brother!
Avenger
08-30-2006, 02:29 PM
Said it once, I'll say it again. Triple H is the best damn thing in wrestling.
dablackguy
08-30-2006, 02:38 PM
He's yet to see hogan lose to anyone? Guess ol big nose wasn't around when hogan lost to brock and then angle and then lost the title to taker. Cute of him sticking up for his little clique buddy, after the amount of shit they got up to i dont think he's much room to talk.
Are you kidding me? You're justifying that statement with things that happened 4 years ago? I guess it was right for Hogan to go over HBK and Orton, etc.
Oh and i seem to recall someone "losing his smile" when he had to drop the title, last i checked a knee injurys slightly more beleivable.
2 wrongs don't make a right
What amazes me is the massive amount of ego that can come from a "sport" with predetermined outcomes. Guess triple h is just pissed as he's never come close to having the popularity of hogan in his prime. Guess his claim to fame in 15 years time will be something along the lines of "i banged the bosses daughter". :?: ..oh yeah and a hermaphodite.
No one is going to match the popularity of Hogan, the Austins and Rocks of the world came close, but Hogan's popularity likely won't ever be surpassed.
Cute of Hunter trying to downplay his pull backstage. I agree with Johnny Vegas in that we would all probably do the same thing. With regards to now, I dont like the fact that a guy on the active roster has rather significant pull backstage (conflict of interests) but if he's entertaining like he is now with Dx, it at least makes it more tolerable
The One
08-30-2006, 02:47 PM
No one is going to match the popularity of Hogan, the Austins and Rocks of the world came close, but Hogan's popularity likely won't ever be surpassed.
Sorry but I gotta object to this. Austin was a much bigger draw then Hogan was. The only reason Austin isn't considered ten folds the draw Hogan was, is that while Hogan was #1 he was the only one, when Austin was #1 he had Rock, DX, and Undertaker to share the spotlight with.
And before you mention the fact that Piper, Savage and Warrior were all around during Hogan's Era...bare in mind that Hogan never laid down for anyone...Austin while on top (or more interestingly while on the rise) did a lot of putting over other people.
That's another reason I have a hard time holding a grudge against Hunter, there was a period for like 2 years when Hunter just didn't do the job for anyone, but for christ sake he put over Umaga on RAW in the last month. I can count every single person Hogan has lost to since 1985 on my fingers.
FourFifty
08-30-2006, 03:04 PM
Hogan drew more money and is a far bigger star than Michaels could ever be... brother!
:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:
When Hogan was in his prime the wrestling world had a different look, a different feel. The WWF had to stay on top of everything because the NWA was still around, and it was easier to stay on top because you didn't need complex storylines to stay hooked. When a wrestler got in the ring it was always more believeable and now it's harder to believe since Kayfabe has become a thing of the past. When you do something "hardcore" you really need to raise the bar today because a chair shot just won't do anymore. At one point in time a tombstone on a chair would knock out Hulk Hogan and he'd be carried out of the ring on a streacher. Nowadays he'd no sell it if it came from the rafters, hulk up, and win the match.
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Did Hogan draw more money than anyone else in the industry? I don’t have the figures in front of me but with the help of people like Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Andre The Giant, The Iron Sheik, Sid Justice, The Undertaker, Sgt Slaughter, and other people who he wrestled (not to mention Freddie Blassy who managed him in the beginning, Vince McMahon who shoved him down wrestling’s pike, Billy Graham for getting his style ripped off) I believe so.
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So yea, Hogan drew more in his prime. The industry has changed by leaps and bounds since then. The fans are more demanding, more cynical, more complex. You put Terry in his red and yellow tights to start Hulkamania from the ground up again, and you’ll just get someone a little bit better than The Miz. Hell, let’s give Hogan a head start, and try to start Hulkamania in ’97. You’ll still get someone a little bit better than The Miz.
MIZAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD, BROTHER!!!!
Y2Jeremy
08-30-2006, 03:31 PM
HHH is funny. That was rich about Hogan. Even a murderer can repent in prison 2 years after the killing, but that does not make him forgiven. that said, I am a mark for HHH HBK and Hogan, but HHH is just bitter that Hogan has the perfect contract clause. COMPLETE CONTROL!
:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:
When Hogan was in his prime the wrestling world had a different look, a different feel. The WWF had to stay on top of everything because the NWA was still around, and it was easier to stay on top because you didn't need complex storylines to stay hooked. When a wrestler got in the ring it was always more believeable and now it's harder to believe since Kayfabe has become a thing of the past. When you do something "hardcore" you really need to raise the bar today because a chair shot just won't do anymore. At one point in time a tombstone on a chair would knock out Hulk Hogan and he'd be carried out of the ring on a streacher. Nowadays he'd no sell it if it came from the rafters, hulk up, and win the match.
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Did Hogan draw more money than anyone else in the industry? I don’t have the figures in front of me but with the help of people like Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Andre The Giant, The Iron Sheik, Sid Justice, The Undertaker, Sgt Slaughter, and other people who he wrestled (not to mention Freddie Blassy who managed him in the beginning, Vince McMahon who shoved him down wrestling’s pike, Billy Graham for getting his style ripped off) I believe so.
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So yea, Hogan drew more in his prime. The industry has changed by leaps and bounds since then. The fans are more demanding, more cynical, more complex. You put Terry in his red and yellow tights to start Hulkamania from the ground up again, and you’ll just get someone a little bit better than The Miz. Hell, let’s give Hogan a head start, and try to start Hulkamania in ’97. You’ll still get someone a little bit better than The Miz.
MIZAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD, BROTHER!!!!
I don't know if you are seriously doubting Hogan being a draw or not.
I'll just leave it like this - Hulk Hogan drew more money in his bad days in WCW that Shawn Michaels ever did in his best. Oh and Michaels is arguably one of the worst drawing WWE champions of all time.
FourFifty
08-30-2006, 04:46 PM
I don't know if you are seriously doubting Hogan being a draw or not.
I'll just leave it like this - Hulk Hogan drew more money in his bad days in WCW that Shawn Michaels ever did in his best. Oh and Michaels is arguably one of the worst drawing WWE champions of all time.
If Hogan drew more money in his bad days in WCW then can you please explain to me why WCW gave away so many tickets, and why WCW went under if Hogan, their constant main eventer in the lime light, drew? I’m seriously not trying to sound like a jerk, I just want to know.
And before anyone brings it up....
OMFG!!! JOO FUKTARD!!!1!!!11!!!one!explanationpoint!!!1! WHAT ABOUT TEH HULK@MANIKS!!?!??!?!?!?!?
The Hulkamaniacs today fall under one of three groups.
1. Adults who have fond memories of watching Hulk Hogan and won't allow anything to sway their viewpoints just because of the memories.
2. The children of these adults who cheer for Hogan because their parents cheer for him.
3. Goddamn posers who wear vintage tees. Let's face it, if you're 18, take off the Pink Floyd Tour of '77 shirt! You weren't there! If you don't know who Marc Summers is then don't wear the Double Dare shirt! If you've only played the newer Mega Man, Mario, and Zelda games, put that old school nintendo shirt back on the rack at Hot Topic! You're a god damn sheep...wow, that's totally unrelated to Hulk Hogan... But you get the point. The third group of Hulkamanaics are posers.
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Did Hogan draw in his prime? No doubt about it.
Can he draw today? Until Hulkamania, he might draw a little but until he’s in the marquee spot again (which hopefully won’t happen again, ever) he’s technically a mid card filler.
Goulet
08-30-2006, 04:54 PM
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Why is that in your posts?
Just wonderin...
FourFifty
08-30-2006, 05:03 PM
Because it has meaning, depth, and soul. Jeez, can't you it for yourself?
Goulet
08-30-2006, 05:21 PM
Because it has meaning, depth, and soul. Jeez, can't you it for yourself?:?:
FourFifty
08-30-2006, 05:28 PM
Okay Goulet, here's what I see on my screen.
You're quoting me, but there's nothing there.
That's what I see. Maybe it's something on my side of the screen, or something on your side of the screen. Becuase I didn't see anything I was a smart ass.
Dave Youell
08-31-2006, 08:15 AM
FourFifty, trust me on this, Rob is right.
When you take into account that WCW was getting anywhere between 2.5 - 3.0 ratings when it got canned, that's above what WWF was drawing when Shawn was champ.
I guess it depends on what you consider to be a draw. Crowd Attendance? Merchandise Sale? Money Earnt overall?
If you take those 3 things into account, Hogan in WCW was still bigger than Shawn in 95/96, aside from Mania ticket sales generally in both companies were bad. Obviously there was the heyday of the late 90's and early 2000 where the gate reciepts where massive, this of course had a knock on effect to both companies, so Hogan working towards the dying days of WCW still earnt more money than Shawn and was seen by more people than Shawn.
The only time I guess where Shawn out drew Hogan was Ironically when Hogan was in a different company at the same time, but that was before the Monday night war really got kicked off and the inital impact of the Hogan debut had fizzled out. A year later the NWO formed and Hogan was undoubtably on top again.
Hogan did jobs when he was under contract to Vince for a few years without creative control.
Since he's been coming back on one time deals he's yet to do the job, everyone knows he should of put over Orton as Summerslam as Hogan had absolutly nothing to gain from the win except for an ego rub.
As far as Hunter goes, yes he's pulled strings in the past, but recently, as in the last 2 years, I can't really fault him, he made Batista, made Cena look Credible and put over Benoit a few times.
His lowest point was the Mania 19 thing, but since Mania 20 I think he's doing what's good for business and not what's good for Hunter (well not ALL of the time anyway)
i don't blame hogan if i just had 1 or 2 match contracts, and vince is just useing hogans name to get more ppv buys i would not job ether to hbk ether. on orton he did not realy need a push ether, he allready other big names job for him, if anyone should have jobed to orton it was taker at wrestlemania now that would have goten orton over.
The One
08-31-2006, 02:17 PM
Like I said, the new Kayfabe pecking order...
Hogan's Couch > Hogan > Orton > Other old retired legends...
Something doesn't seem right there...
Like I said, the new Kayfabe pecking order...
Hogan's Couch > Hogan > Orton > Other old retired legends...
Something doesn't seem right there...
so wheres taker and trips in that order are they ahead or behind hogans couch?
FourFifty
08-31-2006, 03:57 PM
Am I the only one who finds it funny that Triple H talking about backstage power turned into everyone talking about Hogan?
Now Dave, I don't have any figures in front of me, nor have I ever seen any. I'm not comparing Hulk Hogan to any former WWF/WWE/WWWF/WBF/XLF Champion, nor have I compared Hogan to any former champion or any other wrestler in the industry (in this thread, at least). But this is a serious question.
If Hogan drew as much as everyone says he drew, and he was always in the lime light in WCW, why did the company go under? Why did WCW hand out so much paper? If Hogan was as big of a draw as the kool-aid drinkers say he was then WCW wouldn't have needed to hand out as much paper because they'd be able to sell the tickets (insert random Hogan no selling joke here), making more money, getting more ratings (that's just a theory- if people are willing to pay to watch it, then you'd think they'd gladly tune in to watch it for free), and not go under.
I haven't seen the Monday Night Wars dvd because I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that got cut out and ended at wrestlecrap. Judy Bagwell on a pole, Hacksaw's rubber 2x4, Hogan vs Jarrett Bash at the Beach, Scott Steiner calling Ric Flair the other nature boy and saying WCW sucks... I'm sure I could get a smaller spin on if I watch Fox News.
Kane Knight
08-31-2006, 04:04 PM
Am I the only one who finds it funny that Triple H talking about backstage power turned into everyone talking about Hogan?
Not at all. I find it fucking hilarious.
Its really why I've stayed out. Hogan's not the point, he's just an excuse. A reason to take the heat of Trips. He's a poor excuse, because to be a real example, smarks would have to love him, and they don't. But he's a viable way to get people arguing.
That said, Triple H seems to have outsmarted the smarks. :lol:
FourFifty, WCW probably made triple the amount of money in 1998, with Hogan as the top draw, than WWF made in 1996 and 1997 combined. WCW was making billions and billions of dollars through huge merchandising and tickets/PPV sales.
Shawn Michaels left the WWF because of his back injury just as they began to compete with WCW in the Monday night ratings wars. And even when WCW and WWF were pulling neck and neck, Hogan was main eventing in a top wrestling company that was scoring higher ratings and attendance than ever before.
Had Shawn Michaels stayed around during the ratings wars, it's arguable that he could be considered as high a draw as Hogan. But because he wasn't there for the Attitude era, and only returned in 2001 after WCW was dead, he's not.
Triple H is going to inherit part of the WWF. He's a fucking mastermind genius and I bow to his unmatched intellect.
FourFifty
09-01-2006, 05:43 AM
I would like to take this time to talk about what I've said about HBK in this thread, in an old riddle that has been passed along by my people for as long as the sun has risen and set.
What did one mime say to the other? (highlight for the answer)
NOTHING!
Seriously, I don't care how much HBK, Bret Hart, Big Daddy Cool, Bob Backlund, Buddy Rogers, Sid Justice, or any other champion has drawn. I say, "Hogan wasn't as big of a draw as everyone says" and all everyone else could come back with is "HBK wasn't a draw!" and yet no one can answer a few simple questions.
If Hogan was such a big draw and made so much money for the company then why did WCW hand out alot of paper?
With Hogan being such a big draw why did WCW go under?
Where in Desert Hot Springs, CA can I get a decent cup a coffee served to me by someone who speaks English?
And please, don't respond with "HBK didn't draw!" For the love of God and all that is holy I don't care.
The MAC
09-01-2006, 02:15 PM
Hogan drawing and WCW going under are sperate issues. WCW was alive until the time warner meger where it was decided internally to kill the product or at least sell it off because wrestling was not congruent with the companies image. WCW could have mounted a comeback - the "star-power" was certainly out there.
I don't think the demise of WCW relates to whether Hogan was a draw or not. If you look at it the WWF didn't go under when hogan left
I can't believe I'm even debating Hulk Hogan is a draw.
Kane Knight
09-01-2006, 03:46 PM
At least you're not debating whether Bret Hart ever drew a dime.
Truth Commission
09-02-2006, 03:23 AM
I just wanted to comment on a few things that were mentioned in this topic:
1) Triple H's backstage power: I don't fault Triple AT ALL for playing politics backstage (if that actually is true). For one thing, loyalty between employer and employee should ALWAYS be a two-way street. In the WWE's case, this is clearly not the case. The WWE have always been known to unjustly fire people (i.e. Test when he was injured), or commit other sorts of unjust towards their workers.
Triple H is on the look-out for himself. Is that such a bad thing? Lots of people who work their butts off in the WWE (and it IS a very tough job)....never get fully rewarded. Triple H is shrewd, worked his way up the ranks, and married the boss' daughter. GOOD for him!
It's the WWE's fault if they're letting Triple H run things backstage (if that's actually what's happening). Triple H is being smart.....and doing what any smart human being would do. Period.
2) HBK/Flair/HHH, etc. criticising Hogan for not doing jobs: First off, I think it's EXTREMELY hypocritical of HBK to criticise Hogan (for reasons people have already stated on here). HBK has refused to job NUMEROUS times in the past.
As it relates to Flair/HBK/HHH, it seems to me like they're just trying to "bootleg" Hogan (i.e. try and show the people that they "have" some tangible quality that Hogan does not).
All 3 of these men know that Hogan is a far bigger star than all 3 men.
So what HBK and Flair have decided to do, is show the people that they
a) work their butts off
b) Care far more about the company than Hogan
to show that they are better than Hogan in this regard.
The joke here, is that BOTH Ric Flair and HBK would gladly trade in their careers/lifestyle for what Hogan has.....and go about eveything the same way Hogan did! Just my opinion of course.
3) I actually don't think Hogan jobbing THAT much is a bad thing. Hogan has already done significant jobs for the company a few years back.
If Hogan were to KEEP jobbing, then
a) The "prestige" of defeating Hulk Hogan would diminish.
b) Because of 'a', Hulk Hogan appearances/matches may not mean as much (although this is debatable).
Mick Foley and Ric Flair almost always jobs all the time now. Seriously - is there THAT much prestige left in beating those guys?
Now compare that to when someone defeats Taker (as Great Kali did) and Hogan (i.e. if he jobs to Cena at a later date).
bottom line: I like the idea of Hogan winning as long as he does ONE (or two) more significant jobs in the future.
Re-cap:
1) Loyalty is a two-way street between employer and employee. Triple H is not at fault for what he is doing (if in fact, he actually is playing politics backstage).
2) HBK, Flair, etc. are hypocrites for chastising Hogan. If they were as big a draw as Hogan was, I highly doubt that they'd ne any different than Hogan (i.e. not putting their body on the line as much, not jobbing as much, etc.). As it relates to the latter, we've already seen HBK's unwillingness to job in the past
3) Hogan getting key victories at this point isn't THAT bad an idea....provided that he does ONE (or two) more significant jobs in the future (so that the 'novelty' of defeating Hogan is still there).
Destor
09-02-2006, 05:00 AM
I would just like to say that ALL WRESTLERS USE POLITICS, yes even the ones that you think don't. ALL OF THEM, EVEN THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THIKING ABOUT. Yes him.
FourFifty
09-02-2006, 05:49 AM
Noooo! Not Max Mini!!!! :'(
Destor
09-02-2006, 05:56 AM
Speaking of someone who wont put people over :nono:
Kane Knight
09-02-2006, 11:03 AM
I would just like to say that ALL WRESTLERS USE POLITICS, yes even the ones that you think don't. ALL OF THEM, EVEN THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THIKING ABOUT. Yes him.
Zack Gowen? :'(
Destor
09-02-2006, 02:21 PM
Shit yes Gowen. And I'm being serious.
The One
09-02-2006, 02:25 PM
Somehow knowing Brooklyn Brawler used backstage stroke makes his incredible career seem tainted. :'(
Crippla
09-02-2006, 03:07 PM
LOL. do you think Brakus used backstage politics?(for those who actually remember Brakus)
Destor
09-02-2006, 03:32 PM
Provided he ever got in a position to ever have some pull he would have and thats a guarantee.
M-A-G
09-02-2006, 04:20 PM
FourFifty, WCW probably made triple the amount of money in 1998, with Hogan as the top draw, than WWF made in 1996 and 1997 combined. WCW was making billions and billions of dollars through huge merchandising and tickets/PPV sales.
Oh, please. Making more than the WWE? Hell yeah. BILLIONS AND BILLIONS?!?!? I don't think so.
M-A-G
09-02-2006, 04:21 PM
LOL. do you think Brakus used backstage politics?(for those who actually remember Brakus)
He sure did a crappy job.
Crippla
09-02-2006, 04:24 PM
Provided he ever got in a position to ever have some pull he would have and thats a guarantee.
They did try to push him at one point when he got a victory over Miguel Perez but it ended at that. The fact that it was on Raw is the only reason I considered it a push because Perez was a jobber.
M-A-G
09-02-2006, 04:25 PM
Hogan drawing and WCW going under are sperate issues. WCW was alive until the time warner meger where it was decided internally to kill the product or at least sell it off because wrestling was not congruent with the companies image. WCW could have mounted a comeback - the "star-power" was certainly out there.
I don't think the demise of WCW relates to whether Hogan was a draw or not. If you look at it the WWF didn't go under when hogan left
Alive but dying and thanks to lots of factors not excluding the repeated use of stale talent like Hogan and such. The fact that it was drawing horrific ratings (even compared to today's Raw numbers) didn't help either. Not to mention the lack of staff and management necessary to even begin mounting a plan to begin a comeback. Did Hogan help WCW? Sure, but after two years after his debut there and thanks to a shock heel turn to join the hottest new act in town.
Kane Knight
09-02-2006, 05:45 PM
Shit yes Gowen. And I'm being serious.
I feel so...Cheap...
Crippla
09-02-2006, 06:03 PM
Kane Knight vs. Joey Radd
Kane Knight
09-02-2006, 08:08 PM
It's true. Joey's pissed I out-politicked him.
Blitz
09-03-2006, 04:56 AM
Zack Gowen? :'(
:rofl:
Savio
09-03-2006, 10:21 AM
HHH has been doing the right thing for the past couple years (except around mainia) so I'm not going to hate on him now.
James Steele
09-03-2006, 04:56 PM
Triple H got over and became a main eventer before the Stephanie/Triple H storyline (which is what led to them getting married in real life). It is possible that Triple H was just the only proven guy to carry the ball for the WWF. Is it possible that Triple H actually loves Stephanie McMahon and loves professional wrestling enough to actually have potential to be a great backstage mind in the WWE down the road?
I don't agree with Rob often, but anybody who says Hulk Hogan wasn't a draw is a fucking moron.
Crippla
09-04-2006, 03:43 AM
JamesSteele/KingofOldSchool vs. Rob/The Ravishing One
St. Jimmy
09-04-2006, 04:07 AM
Me vs. The Banhammer
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/themattedness/HHHammer.jpg
Kane Knight
09-04-2006, 11:33 AM
Triple H got over and became a main eventer before the Stephanie/Triple H storyline (which is what led to them getting married in real life). It is possible that Triple H was just the only proven guy to carry the ball for the WWF. Is it possible that Triple H actually loves Stephanie McMahon and loves professional wrestling enough to actually have potential to be a great backstage mind in the WWE down the road?
Yeah, and already having pull after rimming Michaels...
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