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Old 08-29-2006, 06:53 PM   #1
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Triple H comments on backstage power
The comments below are by Triple H when asked about his "backstage power" in the October issues of WWE Magazine:

"I haven't read a dirt sheet in 10 years. And that's the damn truth. Yes I'm in a top position. Yes I'm married to the boss's daughter. Yes I sit in production meetings. But, at the end of the day, there is only one person with the stroke in this business. And that's Vince McMahon. If he doesn't like something , whether it's my idea or not, it's not going to happen. I want guys like John Cena around. I want to bring new guys up and help make them. People always accuse me of not wanting to drop the belt to a guy. That's complete crap. I didn't drop the belt to RVD because no one asked me to drop it to RVD. I've yet to see Hulk Hogan lose to anybody. He wrestles once every 6 months, and it doesn't matter if you're the biggest name in active competition today, he's not going to lose to you. There was suppose to be a Hogan/Michaels 2, and Hogan was supposed to lose. All of a sudden his knee starting "bugging" him."
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"People always accuse me of not wanting to drop the belt to a guy."

This just a few sentances after "I haven't read a dirt sheet in 10 years.".

LOL though, I think I just saw Kayfabe floating down the river covered in maggots.
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He's yet to see hogan lose to anyone? Guess ol big nose wasn't around when hogan lost to brock and then angle and then lost the title to taker. Cute of him sticking up for his little clique buddy, after the amount of shit they got upto i dont think he's much room to talk.

Oh and i seem to recall someone "losing his smile" when he had to drop the title, last i checked a knee injurys slightly more beleivable.
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He's just mad because Hogan got a bigger pop than him at Summer Slam.
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He's yet to see hogan lose to anyone? Guess ol big nose wasn't around when hogan lost to brock and then angle and then lost the title to taker. Cute of him sticking up for his little clique buddy, after the amount of shit they got upto i dont think he's much room to talk.

Oh and i seem to recall someone "losing his smile" when he had to drop the title, last i checked a knee injurys slightly more beleivable.
He's mad because he was the one who dropped the title to Hogan at Backlash 2002.
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If I was Hogan, I wouldn't have lost to Shawn Michaels either.

And he probably wasn't told to lose to RVD. It was written for him to lose and it got changed. Wording it different makes him sound so great.
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If I was Hogan, I wouldn't have lost to Shawn Michaels either.
If I were Shawn Michaels, I'd be questioning why someone who is only there to put something of his over has to win against a top current main eventer.
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Honestly, i really have no problem with Triple H having the backstage power he does, hell, half of us on TPWW would probably do the same thing. Personally, i still find him entertaining and the most legit heel threat in the WWE (probably because no one can overshadow him but we 'don't know that' ). The only time i really had a problem with it was when we won at Wrestlemania 19. He should have dropped the belt to Booker IMO, giving Booker a last REAL title run.
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If I were Shawn Michaels, I'd be questioning why someone who is only there to put something of his over has to win against a top current main eventer.

Good point, Pro Dick.
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It cracks me up to see him justifying himself based on someone everyone is sick of as well.
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did'nt wcw have hogan job to kidman. i have seen hogan job to alot of people.
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What amazes me is the massive amount of ego that can come from a "sport" with predetermined outcomes. Guess triple h is just pissed as he's never come close to having the popularity of hogan in his prime. Guess his claim to fame in 15 years time will be something along the lines of "i banged the bosses daughter". ..oh yeah and a hermaphodite.
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Classic case of misdirection. Like a little kid really. You get asked a question and then start talking about someone(something) else.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:00 AM   #21
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The difference between Shawn and Hogan is that Shawn would put on ****+ star matches on a daily basis and aslong as I was entertained I don't care if he refuses to put anybody over.Hogan on the other hand hardly does anything in the ring and let's his opponent do all the work yet he gets all the glory.HBK carried that feud with Hogan and carried the match.If Hogan could put on classic matches I wouldn't mind him winning all the time.
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Hogan did jobs when he was under contract to Vince for a few years without creative control.

Since he's been coming back on one time deals he's yet to do the job, everyone knows he should of put over Orton as Summerslam as Hogan had absolutly nothing to gain from the win except for an ego rub.

As far as Hunter goes, yes he's pulled strings in the past, but recently, as in the last 2 years, I can't really fault him, he made Batista, made Cena look Credible and put over Benoit a few times.

His lowest point was the Mania 19 thing, but since Mania 20 I think he's doing what's good for business and not what's good for Hunter (well not ALL of the time anyway)
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If I were Shawn Michaels, I'd be questioning why someone who is only there to put something of his over has to win against a top current main eventer.
Because Shawn Michaels never refused to work with or put over any of the Hart Foundation in 1997 or about 100 others in his singles run did he? Shawn Michaels didn't refused to drop the WWF title in his last match to Steve Austin in the company's biggest PPV of all time to that date did he?

Hulk Hogan only needs to comeback to feed his own ego. If he wants to put people over, that's up to him. Personally, if I were him, I would have put Orton over to make him a bigger star but putting over Shawn Michaels is nothing but a battle of two egos. Hogan drew more money and is a far bigger star than Michaels could ever be... brother!
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He's yet to see hogan lose to anyone? Guess ol big nose wasn't around when hogan lost to brock and then angle and then lost the title to taker. Cute of him sticking up for his little clique buddy, after the amount of shit they got up to i dont think he's much room to talk.

Are you kidding me? You're justifying that statement with things that happened 4 years ago? I guess it was right for Hogan to go over HBK and Orton, etc.

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Oh and i seem to recall someone "losing his smile" when he had to drop the title, last i checked a knee injurys slightly more beleivable.
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What amazes me is the massive amount of ego that can come from a "sport" with predetermined outcomes. Guess triple h is just pissed as he's never come close to having the popularity of hogan in his prime. Guess his claim to fame in 15 years time will be something along the lines of "i banged the bosses daughter". ..oh yeah and a hermaphodite.
No one is going to match the popularity of Hogan, the Austins and Rocks of the world came close, but Hogan's popularity likely won't ever be surpassed.

Cute of Hunter trying to downplay his pull backstage. I agree with Johnny Vegas in that we would all probably do the same thing. With regards to now, I dont like the fact that a guy on the active roster has rather significant pull backstage (conflict of interests) but if he's entertaining like he is now with Dx, it at least makes it more tolerable
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No one is going to match the popularity of Hogan, the Austins and Rocks of the world came close, but Hogan's popularity likely won't ever be surpassed.
Sorry but I gotta object to this. Austin was a much bigger draw then Hogan was. The only reason Austin isn't considered ten folds the draw Hogan was, is that while Hogan was #1 he was the only one, when Austin was #1 he had Rock, DX, and Undertaker to share the spotlight with.

And before you mention the fact that Piper, Savage and Warrior were all around during Hogan's Era...bare in mind that Hogan never laid down for anyone...Austin while on top (or more interestingly while on the rise) did a lot of putting over other people.

That's another reason I have a hard time holding a grudge against Hunter, there was a period for like 2 years when Hunter just didn't do the job for anyone, but for christ sake he put over Umaga on RAW in the last month. I can count every single person Hogan has lost to since 1985 on my fingers.
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Hogan drew more money and is a far bigger star than Michaels could ever be... brother!


When Hogan was in his prime the wrestling world had a different look, a different feel. The WWF had to stay on top of everything because the NWA was still around, and it was easier to stay on top because you didn't need complex storylines to stay hooked. When a wrestler got in the ring it was always more believeable and now it's harder to believe since Kayfabe has become a thing of the past. When you do something "hardcore" you really need to raise the bar today because a chair shot just won't do anymore. At one point in time a tombstone on a chair would knock out Hulk Hogan and he'd be carried out of the ring on a streacher. Nowadays he'd no sell it if it came from the rafters, hulk up, and win the match.

Did Hogan draw more money than anyone else in the industry? I don’t have the figures in front of me but with the help of people like Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Andre The Giant, The Iron Sheik, Sid Justice, The Undertaker, Sgt Slaughter, and other people who he wrestled (not to mention Freddie Blassy who managed him in the beginning, Vince McMahon who shoved him down wrestling’s pike, Billy Graham for getting his style ripped off) I believe so.

So yea, Hogan drew more in his prime. The industry has changed by leaps and bounds since then. The fans are more demanding, more cynical, more complex. You put Terry in his red and yellow tights to start Hulkamania from the ground up again, and you’ll just get someone a little bit better than The Miz. Hell, let’s give Hogan a head start, and try to start Hulkamania in ’97. You’ll still get someone a little bit better than The Miz.

MIZAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD, BROTHER!!!!
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HHH is funny. That was rich about Hogan. Even a murderer can repent in prison 2 years after the killing, but that does not make him forgiven. that said, I am a mark for HHH HBK and Hogan, but HHH is just bitter that Hogan has the perfect contract clause. COMPLETE CONTROL!
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When Hogan was in his prime the wrestling world had a different look, a different feel. The WWF had to stay on top of everything because the NWA was still around, and it was easier to stay on top because you didn't need complex storylines to stay hooked. When a wrestler got in the ring it was always more believeable and now it's harder to believe since Kayfabe has become a thing of the past. When you do something "hardcore" you really need to raise the bar today because a chair shot just won't do anymore. At one point in time a tombstone on a chair would knock out Hulk Hogan and he'd be carried out of the ring on a streacher. Nowadays he'd no sell it if it came from the rafters, hulk up, and win the match.

Did Hogan draw more money than anyone else in the industry? I don’t have the figures in front of me but with the help of people like Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Andre The Giant, The Iron Sheik, Sid Justice, The Undertaker, Sgt Slaughter, and other people who he wrestled (not to mention Freddie Blassy who managed him in the beginning, Vince McMahon who shoved him down wrestling’s pike, Billy Graham for getting his style ripped off) I believe so.

So yea, Hogan drew more in his prime. The industry has changed by leaps and bounds since then. The fans are more demanding, more cynical, more complex. You put Terry in his red and yellow tights to start Hulkamania from the ground up again, and you’ll just get someone a little bit better than The Miz. Hell, let’s give Hogan a head start, and try to start Hulkamania in ’97. You’ll still get someone a little bit better than The Miz.

MIZAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD, BROTHER!!!!
I don't know if you are seriously doubting Hogan being a draw or not.

I'll just leave it like this - Hulk Hogan drew more money in his bad days in WCW that Shawn Michaels ever did in his best. Oh and Michaels is arguably one of the worst drawing WWE champions of all time.
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I don't know if you are seriously doubting Hogan being a draw or not.

I'll just leave it like this - Hulk Hogan drew more money in his bad days in WCW that Shawn Michaels ever did in his best. Oh and Michaels is arguably one of the worst drawing WWE champions of all time.
If Hogan drew more money in his bad days in WCW then can you please explain to me why WCW gave away so many tickets, and why WCW went under if Hogan, their constant main eventer in the lime light, drew? I’m seriously not trying to sound like a jerk, I just want to know.

And before anyone brings it up....
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OMFG!!! JOO FUKTARD!!!1!!!11!!!one!explanationpoint!!!1! WHAT ABOUT TEH HULK@MANIKS!!?!??!?!?!?!?
The Hulkamaniacs today fall under one of three groups.

1. Adults who have fond memories of watching Hulk Hogan and won't allow anything to sway their viewpoints just because of the memories.

2. The children of these adults who cheer for Hogan because their parents cheer for him.

3. Goddamn posers who wear vintage tees. Let's face it, if you're 18, take off the Pink Floyd Tour of '77 shirt! You weren't there! If you don't know who Marc Summers is then don't wear the Double Dare shirt! If you've only played the newer Mega Man, Mario, and Zelda games, put that old school nintendo shirt back on the rack at Hot Topic! You're a god damn sheep...wow, that's totally unrelated to Hulk Hogan... But you get the point. The third group of Hulkamanaics are posers.

Did Hogan draw in his prime? No doubt about it.
Can he draw today? Until Hulkamania, he might draw a little but until he’s in the marquee spot again (which hopefully won’t happen again, ever) he’s technically a mid card filler.
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Old 08-30-2006, 04:54 PM   #31
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:03 PM   #32
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Because it has meaning, depth, and soul. Jeez, can't you it for yourself?
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Because it has meaning, depth, and soul. Jeez, can't you it for yourself?
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:28 PM   #34
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Okay Goulet, here's what I see on my screen.

You're quoting me, but there's nothing there.
That's what I see. Maybe it's something on my side of the screen, or something on your side of the screen. Becuase I didn't see anything I was a smart ass.
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Old 08-31-2006, 08:15 AM   #35
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FourFifty, trust me on this, Rob is right.

When you take into account that WCW was getting anywhere between 2.5 - 3.0 ratings when it got canned, that's above what WWF was drawing when Shawn was champ.

I guess it depends on what you consider to be a draw. Crowd Attendance? Merchandise Sale? Money Earnt overall?

If you take those 3 things into account, Hogan in WCW was still bigger than Shawn in 95/96, aside from Mania ticket sales generally in both companies were bad. Obviously there was the heyday of the late 90's and early 2000 where the gate reciepts where massive, this of course had a knock on effect to both companies, so Hogan working towards the dying days of WCW still earnt more money than Shawn and was seen by more people than Shawn.

The only time I guess where Shawn out drew Hogan was Ironically when Hogan was in a different company at the same time, but that was before the Monday night war really got kicked off and the inital impact of the Hogan debut had fizzled out. A year later the NWO formed and Hogan was undoubtably on top again.
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Hogan did jobs when he was under contract to Vince for a few years without creative control.

Since he's been coming back on one time deals he's yet to do the job, everyone knows he should of put over Orton as Summerslam as Hogan had absolutly nothing to gain from the win except for an ego rub.

As far as Hunter goes, yes he's pulled strings in the past, but recently, as in the last 2 years, I can't really fault him, he made Batista, made Cena look Credible and put over Benoit a few times.

His lowest point was the Mania 19 thing, but since Mania 20 I think he's doing what's good for business and not what's good for Hunter (well not ALL of the time anyway)
i don't blame hogan if i just had 1 or 2 match contracts, and vince is just useing hogans name to get more ppv buys i would not job ether to hbk ether. on orton he did not realy need a push ether, he allready other big names job for him, if anyone should have jobed to orton it was taker at wrestlemania now that would have goten orton over.
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Like I said, the new Kayfabe pecking order...

Hogan's Couch > Hogan > Orton > Other old retired legends...

Something doesn't seem right there...
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Like I said, the new Kayfabe pecking order...

Hogan's Couch > Hogan > Orton > Other old retired legends...

Something doesn't seem right there...
so wheres taker and trips in that order are they ahead or behind hogans couch?
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Old 08-31-2006, 03:57 PM   #39
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Am I the only one who finds it funny that Triple H talking about backstage power turned into everyone talking about Hogan?

Now Dave, I don't have any figures in front of me, nor have I ever seen any. I'm not comparing Hulk Hogan to any former WWF/WWE/WWWF/WBF/XLF Champion, nor have I compared Hogan to any former champion or any other wrestler in the industry (in this thread, at least). But this is a serious question.
If Hogan drew as much as everyone says he drew, and he was always in the lime light in WCW, why did the company go under? Why did WCW hand out so much paper? If Hogan was as big of a draw as the kool-aid drinkers say he was then WCW wouldn't have needed to hand out as much paper because they'd be able to sell the tickets (insert random Hogan no selling joke here), making more money, getting more ratings (that's just a theory- if people are willing to pay to watch it, then you'd think they'd gladly tune in to watch it for free), and not go under.
I haven't seen the Monday Night Wars dvd because I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that got cut out and ended at wrestlecrap. Judy Bagwell on a pole, Hacksaw's rubber 2x4, Hogan vs Jarrett Bash at the Beach, Scott Steiner calling Ric Flair the other nature boy and saying WCW sucks... I'm sure I could get a smaller spin on if I watch Fox News.
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Am I the only one who finds it funny that Triple H talking about backstage power turned into everyone talking about Hogan?
Not at all. I find it fucking hilarious.

Its really why I've stayed out. Hogan's not the point, he's just an excuse. A reason to take the heat of Trips. He's a poor excuse, because to be a real example, smarks would have to love him, and they don't. But he's a viable way to get people arguing.

That said, Triple H seems to have outsmarted the smarks.
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