View Full Version : will wwe ever acknowledge TNA?
The MAC
12-18-2006, 04:55 PM
TNA mention wwe so much especially if its a wrestler that beat pple in the wwe. Im wondering if wwe will ever "return the favour"
M-A-G
12-18-2006, 04:56 PM
Only when they start handing them their asses a la WCW.
The Naitch
12-18-2006, 05:06 PM
lol I hope WWE never ever acknowledges TNA
Why should the WWE give them any free publicity?
Right now they aren't a threat what-so-ever viewer-wise. It's just common sense.
Now, if they were at par in the ratings, then it's possible that they'd do it, but that's not for a long, LONG way off.
The Naitch
12-18-2006, 05:10 PM
WWE: TNA who?
TNA: C'mon, I'll be your friend!
WWE: No
TNA: You're mean
M-A-G
12-18-2006, 05:11 PM
LOL
The MAC
12-18-2006, 05:17 PM
if TNA suceeds its for the better of WWE! I think TNA will be mentioned on WWE within 2yrs..lol
Caged Heat18
12-18-2006, 05:24 PM
With the VKM angle, TNA is pratically begging WWE to acknowledge them. I don't see the WWE taking the bait.
ChiefStubbs
12-18-2006, 05:36 PM
With the VKM angle, TNA is pratically begging WWE to acknowledge them. I don't see the WWE taking the bait.
I do, however, see them taking the money they're practically throwing at them.
Jeritron
12-18-2006, 06:17 PM
Of course they will.
Heres how I see the situation...
TNA is making a push to compete with WWE. They are rapidly investing and making moves to grow as a company and a product, just like WCW. Therefore they can either A) suceed (compete with WWE regardless of outcome) or B) fall flat on their face and fall apart.
Once A is reached you basically either fall to B, or go on to be the top dog.
So if TNA begins to pose a threat to WWE like WCW did, they will certainly be referenced and combatted against since it is then out in the open.
If TNA never manages to compete with WWE, they will only go down seeing as they're on the doorstep now.
So either WWE references them in compettition, or they fold and WWE buys the rights to their video library and name.
Pay no attention to that if it makes no sense to you.
Kane Knight
12-18-2006, 09:14 PM
I do, however, see them taking the money they're practically throwing at them.
How the fuck would you even sort that out?
Assuming there's even a real argument there....
Fignuts
12-18-2006, 11:26 PM
When TNA signs more of their best talent.
Fignuts
12-18-2006, 11:27 PM
Which from the looks of things will probably happen sooner rather than later.
Stickman
12-19-2006, 02:44 PM
They rarely mentioned WCW on air.
They rarely mentioned WCW on air.
Yeah, but they made up for all the times they didn't mention them by staging the Invasion of one of their shows and the CNN Headquarters.
Arnold HamNegger
12-19-2006, 03:36 PM
I would like to see them use Eugene's character to take suttle jabs at TNA. Simmons could walk in on Eugene in the dressing room watching IMPACT! and holding a "Jeff Jarret" doll.
"DAMN!"
I would like to see them use Eugene's character to take suttle jabs at TNA. Simmons could walk in on Eugene in the dressing room watching IMPACT! and holding a "Jeff Jarret" doll.
"DAMN!"
Even better, have Eugene start doing shit like the Canadian Destoryer and Styles Clash, showing that even retards can do them!
Arnold HamNegger
12-19-2006, 03:44 PM
Even better, have Eugene start doing shit like the Canadian Destoryer and Styles Clash, showing that even retards can do them!
:lol:
Give Eugene a replica X-Division Belt to wear.
"I'M SPECIAL!!!"
Volare
12-19-2006, 03:46 PM
Well....TNA DID get a mention. Remember when Angle issued the challenge for ONS2 this year? He said he'd take on anyone 4 sided, 6 sided, or 8 sided...gee who could be the 6 sided?
:lol:
Give Eugene a replica X-Division Belt to wear.
"I'M SPECIAL!!!"
Have him come out and wrestle with an Abyss mask, X-Division title, Kurt Angle shirt.
Of course, this storyline would all lead up to the ultimate match: Eugene vs. Hacksaw in... THE EIGHT SIDED RING OF DOOM!
Arnold HamNegger
12-19-2006, 04:05 PM
Have him come out and wrestle with an Abyss mask, X-Division title, Kurt Angle shirt.
Of course, this storyline would all lead up to the ultimate match: Eugene vs. Hacksaw in... THE EIGHT SIDED RING OF DOOM!
Vince: "Is that you Foley? YOUR STILL FFFFIIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEEDDDDD!"
Eugene: "Im not Mankind Mr. McMahon, I'm Aby....."
Vince: "SAY IT AND YOUR FFFFFFFIIIIIIIIRRRRRRREEEEEEDDDDDD!"
Disturbed316
12-19-2006, 04:18 PM
They did, well, Josh Mathews did at least on Byte This.
Innovator
12-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Speaking of acknowledgment, in my area there was a ROH commercial during RAW for the show on Friday
The MAC
12-19-2006, 05:43 PM
that eugene/simmons idea is GOLD! DAMN! Further mockery could include Eugene wearing a double JJ hat to the ring.
The Naitch
12-19-2006, 05:47 PM
I love the Eugene ideas up there
Kane Knight
12-19-2006, 09:36 PM
Well....TNA DID get a mention. Remember when Angle issued the challenge for ONS2 this year? He said he'd take on anyone 4 sided, 6 sided, or 8 sided...gee who could be the 6 sided?
Yeah, it's not like the 6-Sided ring is used elsewhere, it's only TNA, and therefore, they might as well have said TNA...Oh, right. It's only innovative in the minds of Fox and TNA.
Destor
12-19-2006, 10:19 PM
KK you know as well as i do that was a direct shot at TNA... come on man.
The One
12-19-2006, 10:21 PM
(It was a shot at TNA.)
Jeritron
12-20-2006, 12:29 AM
What top names do you think they would be signing? How much money does TNA really have to be throwing around? Their ratings and buyrates are improving of course and aren't exactly "bad"...for them. They don't tour and have limited seats in the impact zone, so they aren't making a killing on live events. Action figures and such can't exactly be flying off shelfs. I doubt their videogame will be in the greatest hits collection for any system, to say the least; but maybe available for the same bargain price.
So one has to wonder where TNA would be getting the money to sign such highly coveted talent. I dont know how much Sting Angle and Nash are pulling down but its probably most of what they have, but guys like Mysterio and RVD who have huge fan followings and have both been world champions in the last year would probably cost TNA a few bucks. And I wouldnt neccesarily say WWE wouldnt have interest in guys like Daniles and Styles at some point, and money talks.
It seems to me if TNA is looking to compete they're gonna have to spend a lot of money they don't have and hope that their storybook doesnt end in chapter eleven.
D Mac
12-20-2006, 12:58 AM
What top names do you think they would be signing? How much money does TNA really have to be throwing around? Their ratings and buyrates are improving of course and aren't exactly "bad"...for them. They don't tour and have limited seats in the impact zone, so they aren't making a killing on live events. Action figures and such can't exactly be flying off shelfs. I doubt their videogame will be in the greatest hits collection for any system, to say the least; but maybe available for the same bargain price.
So one has to wonder where TNA would be getting the money to sign such highly coveted talent. I dont know how much Sting Angle and Nash are pulling down but its probably most of what they have, but guys like Mysterio and RVD who have huge fan followings and have both been world champions in the last year would probably cost TNA a few bucks. And I wouldnt neccesarily say WWE wouldnt have interest in guys like Daniles and Styles at some point, and money talks.
It seems to me if TNA is looking to compete they're gonna have to spend a lot of money they don't have and hope that their storybook doesnt end in chapter eleven.
RVD will be there soon.
Jeritron
12-20-2006, 01:30 AM
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
Destor
12-20-2006, 02:19 AM
Please space you paragraphs out more. I never read your long post because of this. Watch:
See?
Two spaces.
The Naitch
12-20-2006, 02:26 AM
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
I'm just saying, their talent pool and product quality will only get them so far in terms of standing up to a massive giant. It takes a lot of money too. Sure WCWs cutting edge storylines and diverse roster helped them draw audiences, but at the end of the day it was the financial backing that brought them up. TNA currently doesnt have that.
It may come as a shock, but talent requires money and wrestlers care a lot about their paychecks. They have to be able to keep the stars they create and continue to steal the stars that already exist. I don't doubt the value of the company's commitment to pure wrestling and such, and the loyalty of guys in the lockeroom and how they'd rather wrestle for quality and not quantity, but look at ECW. Will a guy like AJ Styles stick around in TNA to be a big fish in a small pond? Or will he take a big contract and run the risk of being misused with an outside chance of uppermidcard and potential main event success? Who knows but we've seen it happen before with a guy like Tazz or Benoit. Granted TNA has more money than ECW, but still not Turner-money.
I think a lot of times people get so excited about how cool and legitimate TNA is and they're right, but it comes down to financal resources to keep making a push in a business that has become so commercial and monopolized. TNA could steadily climb but how long can they sustain what they have and grow without Mcmahon-like resources?
I'm not saying its right, but its just the way it is.
And I'm not trying to sound like the logical voice of doom to something so exciting. I hope they get huge and theres another monday night war. I'm only saying this in response to someone said that TNA would continue to sign all of WWEs top talents.
Destor
12-20-2006, 02:27 AM
That is an example of something I will never read, yes.
Jeritron
12-20-2006, 02:36 AM
To Whom it may concern,
Same amount of words but fair enough, I'll make sure to punctuate correctly in the future.
Sincerely,
Jeritron5000
PullMyFinger
12-20-2006, 03:06 AM
TNA does have a shitload of money under Panda....Panda is worth 2.2 billion. But they dont wanna just burn burn burn..they want to spend a little and maximize profits.
Kane Knight
12-20-2006, 08:36 AM
KK you know as well as i do that was a direct shot at TNA... come on man.
And yet, never actually acknowledged them. Funny, that.
Destor
12-20-2006, 05:25 PM
Yeah they didn't directly say their name. So to the casual observer they were never mentioned. But to anyone with a brain in their head they can see what was said.
Arnold HamNegger
12-20-2006, 06:53 PM
Well, this should come as no surprise to anyone.
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1166644701.php
Wonder how many fans have actually been showing up with VKM/TNA signs?
addy2hotty
12-20-2006, 07:12 PM
Well, this should come as no surprise to anyone.
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2006_/articles/1166644701.php
Wonder how many fans have actually been showing up with VKM/TNA signs?
3. They didn't get their full names, but security were told Vince, Roadie, and Rock-a-billy.
Arnold HamNegger
12-20-2006, 07:31 PM
3. They didn't get their full names, but security were told Vince, Roadie, and Rock-a-billy.
:lol:
TNA should do a storyline where Russo tells Eric Young that he has to get on camera during an episode of Raw with a TNA sign or he's fired. Give him a month to do so and send a camera crew with him for each episode of Impact. Each time he could have a different disguise or something, only to get caught and thrown out by security. It would be like the DX Invasion of Nitro, but have the same result of Scooby Doo and Shaggy trying to catch the phantom. And if he does happen to get in and is successful, then that's just gold for TNA. Either way it would be highly entertaining IMO.
Kane Knight
12-20-2006, 09:25 PM
Yeah they didn't directly say their name. So to the casual observer they were never mentioned. But to anyone with a brain in their head they can see what was said.
Which was pretty much the point. A passing comment still isn't the acknolwedgement that this is all about. Sure, people could "figure it out," the same way they could figure out that Popsi is imitating a major brand of soda. It's not hard...but it's still not really identifying the product.
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