Should there be a MITB at WM this year?

[Shaved Monkey]

I was just thinking. I kinda don't wanna see a MITB match at Mania this year.

You know that whoever wins it is going to win teh title in the next 12 months pretty much, so I'd like to see them shelve it this year, and maybe for a couple of years after that. Use it to build up big stars. But it doesn't need to be done every year.

[lort]

I think it's one of the (or maybe the only) good thing that WWE has introduced in recent years and should be continued.

[Xero]

I think it's one of the (or maybe the only) good thing that WWE has introduced in recent years and should be continued.
That's why it'll be replaced with a yearly "Twenty Years Ago: Hulk Hogan" 1 hour segment.

[Übermensch]

I would like them to keep it, but not always have the MITB champion win the title.

[Mr. JL]

There should be one... and Jeff Hardy should be the one to win it.

[Mr. JL]

Give HBK the title after he defeats John Cena.. and then you got Shawn Michaels versus Jeff Hardy feud to lead you into the middle of the year. Pretty sure those matches would be fantastic.

[FourFifty]

Keep MITB, but don't make it so the MITB winner always gets the title... and by always, I think I mean twice, so the word "always" shouldn't have been used here.

[El Fangel]

I like it because it adds a suspense to every night up until its used, you don't know when the champ will be challenged, and suspense is something the WWE desperatly needs right now.

[Jeritron]

I like it. It should be used. However if theres gonna be a tag team TLC match with the Hardys and other teams that likely takes it out of the equation.

[Funky Fly]

There's not reason to stop it. It's actually a good thing for 3 reasons:

1. 6 midcard guys get a spot on the card. 4 extra guys for what would probably just end up being a regular singles match otherwise.

2. Someone's getting a ticket into the main event for at least 2 months. Hello new main event stars. <font size=1>Of course, once you get there, not being arrested for drug posession helps.</font>

3. A fucking 6 man ladder match at WrestleMania. Are you shitting me? When is that ever a bad thing?

[Funky Fly]

Yhe only thing I'd do differently this year, is just not to have the winner get the belt. Better yet, have him get screwed into having a 3 way and have the 3rd wheel become the new champ. Then you have Mr. MITB chase the belt on the new guy.

[Jeritron]

Personally I'd like to see some guys in it this year like Jeff Hardy, Nitro, CM Punk and others.
I'd love to see someone like Jeff Hardy win the MITB and get a PPV title shot, even if he didn't win it, or only won it for 24 hours. It'd be the best way to push him to the title, even if only fleeting.

[Corkscrewed]

I think it's one of the (or maybe the only) good thing that WWE has introduced in recent years and should be continued.

Seconded. In a way, it's like figuring out which number will win the Royal Rumble. Will it be #1? #2? #30? #15? Will a MitB winner cash in immediately? A month later? Nine months later? Next year's Wrestlemania?

Plus it's pretty much guaranteed to be an entertaining match. And looking at this year's card, we sure as hell are going to need one.

[El Fangel]

Imagine if the person won the MITB at Wrestlemania, and later that night before the main event, he cashed it in won the title and defended it. What a story that would be

[Jeritron]

Theres a lot of cool loopholes that WWE could really use with it, if they had the patience. But they don't.
For example, its good for a title shot oppurtunity for 1 year, 365 days. Well, if they bided their time with a winner they were high on, and instead of them waving the suitcase around they let us forget about it for a year.
Then, post Royal Rumble, almost a year later that Superstar whips out their contract as a huge swirve and trumps the Royal Rumble winner, resulting in a Triple Threat.

[Jeritron]

Imagine if the person won the MITB at Wrestlemania, and later that night before the main event, he cashed it in won the title and defended it. What a story that would be

Now you're thinking. Thats the kinda cool possibilites I'm talking about in addition to the one above. If WWE could be bold, or patient, they could do great stuff like that instead of just having a guy win it and defend it at backlash then cash it in over the summer.

[Rammsteinmad]

Here's an idea, maybe bad, maybe good...? You'd have to have the winner of MITB be someone who is uber over at the moment, say CM Punk for example.

Have him win the MITB, then run out after the main event and cash in straight away.

Not saying it'll be good or not, and obviously it won't happen, but it was just a random idea I had, for them to make the MITB chase different than the last two.

[Rammsteinmad]

Ah shit, sorry just re-read this thread and noticed Fallen Angels idea, oh well.

[Jeritron]

It'd be great if a heel had the MITB contract, and one year later a member of the opposing brand won the rumble, and switched brands to face the champion. This pisses him off because he had his eye on cashing it in there, so he goes over to the other brand and drops the bomb on the guys over there who are bickering over who gets the shot.
Both WM ME compettitors use their title shot to switch brands and fuck everyone over.

[Corkscrewed]

Imagine if the person won the MITB at Wrestlemania, and later that night before the main event, he cashed it in won the title and defended it. What a story that would be

:p

[Corkscrewed]

Well, nevermind on my comment. We're all just a bit slow tonight. :lol:

[El Fangel]

Also another idea, is that since the MITB Can be cashed in at anytime, have the person come out midway through the main-event, after bother stars are tired and pick up a WM triple threat victory.

[Jeritron]

Imagine a MITB winner won the rumble the next year as well. And after losing their title shot at Wrestlemania, busted out the contract and demanded the bell rang and a rematch began.
I know I'm getting ridiculous with this now, but its fun.

[Jeritron]

What if a Rumble Winner won the rumble, and then cashed in the MITB that night at the rumble after the title match and won the title. Then stood soverign in the main event of Wrestlemania? Would the universe implode?

[El Fangel]

Exactly all the possibiltys that MITB brings give suspense to what is happening, because in the back of your mind, your thinking when will _____ cash it in. Also a Rumble win would be awesome, when someone had MITB.

But how about this, say Jeff Hardy wins MITB, Keeps it to January, Wins the Rumble, later that night cashs in his MITB, and wins the title, going to Wrestlemania to face another champion and win his title.

[El Fangel]

Imagine a MITB winner won the rumble the next year as well. And after losing their title shot at Wrestlemania, busted out the contract and demanded the bell rang and a rematch began.
I know I'm getting ridiculous with this now, but its fun.
You stole my <s>story</s> idea.

[Jeritron]

I like your idea of a winner using it to implement a unification match through loopholes.

[El Fangel]

You know that would be a great idea, and something that hasn't been done yet, so Vince if your anywheres on these boards, please for christs sake, because I know he is fed up with WWE too, make this shit happen.

[Jeritron]

But unfortunately we wouldn't ever see stuff like this. Especially that scenario with Jeff Hardy, because it'd because with each step the poor guys chances diminish to biblical proportions.
First he has to win the MITB, small chance but fair enough
THEN he has to win the title with it: very slim chance
then he has to win the Royal Rumble match: snowballs chance in hell
then he has to unify two world titles by winning a second and retaining at Wrestlemanias main event: stand in the Sahara and wait to drown

[Jeritron]

Fallen Angel, we need to work hard to think up more scenarios because I know we're missing plenty.

[St. Jimmy]

No, have a Six Man elimination match for the IC title.

Hardy, Carlito, Masters, Super Crazy, Nitro, Kenny.

Shelton and Haas should be World Tag Champs defending against Cryme Tyme.

[El Fangel]

But unfortunately we wouldn't ever see stuff like this. Especially that scenario with Jeff Hardy, because it'd because with each step the poor guys chances diminish to biblical proportions.
First he has to win the MITB, small chance but fair enough
THEN he has to win the title with it: very slim chance
then he has to win the Royal Rumble match: snowballs chance in hell
then he has to unify two world titles by winning a second and retaining at Wrestlemanias main event: stand in the Sahara and wait to drown

Jeff would be most likely to win. IMHO
He has to win the rumble. I think a 3.448% Chance is decent.
After this winning the title would be a piece of pie.(Not Cake, Cakes too Hard), Since the track record is perfect for money in the bank winners.
If he won the rumble he would win the title at wrestlemania, as every winner has for the last 8 years.

so really all he has to do is win MITB and RR, and its set in stone, WWE isn't going to change how well things are going in the past while :roll:

[El Fangel]

Stand in the Sahara and wait to drown
There is about a 0.00000000.5% chance of that. Good odds. :)

[Shadow]

God damn you people. You're bringing a tear to my eye with all this talk of Jeff Hardy as WWE champion.

[Jeritron]

Haha, I'd really like to see Jeff win the MITB and get a PPV title shot this year. I think it could happen, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Jeritron]

Jeff Hardy cashing in his MITB to began a fued with running champion Edge....I'd buy that for a dollar (or 40)

[El Fangel]

I would actually pay money for a Jeff vs Edge mania title match.

[Jeritron]

It's what I wanted this year, back in September I thought of it.
Seriously, it'd be a tremendous fued for various reasons.
1) They could bring the house down. They're great in ring, and have great chemistry together.

2) Edge could carry things on the mic, and Jeff could really make up for it with his ring work and fan support as the mysterious underdog risk taker.

3) The history. If these two never fued for the title, its a big mistake. The two have all the history written for them already. E&C's vs The Hardys is legendary, and these 2 are arguably the leaders. It'd be great to see it brought to a new level. Edge has become a breakout singles star and main eventer, and now Jeff is back and ready to be the same. Not to mention the whole past of Matt and Edge.

4) They're awesome....

But mostly it works because they're both ready to go. Triple H and Rock worked so naturally together, and they were great on their own. But once they were both ready to main event, they carried their rivalry onto the next level. Since Edge and Jeff Hardy are both ready to headline PPVs, its only natural that they do it together.

[El Fangel]

I agree with everything up here ^

[Kane Knight]

I like it because it adds a suspense to every night up until its used, you don't know when the champ will be challenged, and suspense is something the WWE desperatly needs right now.

Unless they go the route they did last year.

Anyway, I agree with the Mizzzzfit.

Even if the guy loses his match, he can be, essentially, a made man. Could you imagine what this could do to any midcarder?

[Kane Knight]

4) They're awesome....

Has TPWW been overtaken by 14 year old girls?

[owenbrown]

God damn you people. You're bringing a tear to my eye with all this talk of Jeff Hardy as WWE champion.

Well he almost beat Taker in a ladder match for said title in '02.

[owenbrown]

2. Someone's getting a ticket into the main event for at least 2 months. Hello new main event stars. Of course, once you get there, not being arrested for drug posession helps.



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[ttetf]

As much as I'd like to see it, there's no way Jeff or Matt Hardy will win a MITB ladder match at Mania. They're talented guys with little (Jeff anyway)mic skills. they'll be IC'ers for life or thrown back together in a nostaligic tag team.

Just ask Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas

[Xero]

I could never see Jeff holding a world championship. He doesn't have "THE" look to me. Matt I could see though, but that ship has sailed, gotten lost and sunk.

[AdrianM]

it was probably the 2nd best match @ last year's wrestlemania, it has to continue.

I think it should be:
Jeff hardy
Johnny Nitro
Shelton Benjamin
Cm punk
Chris Benoit
Ken Kennedy

[Arnold HamNegger]

Also another idea, is that since the MITB Can be cashed in at anytime, have the person come out midway through the main-event, after bother stars are tired and pick up a WM triple threat victory.

After last night's promo, this is what I'm thinking with HBK.

[Jeritron]

Has TPWW been overtaken by 14 year old girls?

I was kidding by listing that as the last reason, but I do mean it.

[Stickman]

There should be a MITB every year.

[Jeritron]

I'm a mark for ladder matches

[The Genius]

jeff hardy. hands down.

[Kane Knight]

I could never see Jeff holding a world championship. He doesn't have "THE" look to me. Matt I could see though, but that ship has sailed, gotten lost and sunk.

I think Jef HArdy's more likely than most internet favorites. He's still hot in the eyes of WWE, and he's a spot monkey, which beats out more technical wrestlers.

Does he have a snowball's chance in Hell? No. But that shows you what I think of everyone else's chances. :D

Seriously, this is a problem with wrestling. They've built up a perception where people can't buy most guys as a champion. Hell, I think even when their Hoss worship was more evident, it was actually more believable that a "little guy" could win.

Ah well. At least wee got an <s>Eddie Guerrero</s> Rey Mysterio reign, proving anything can happen in the WWE (To someone who fucks their dead amigo's corpse).

[Mr. Nerfect]

Personally, I'd rather see a TLC Match pitting Paul London & Brian Kendrick against The Hardys, MNM and The World's Greatest Tag Team. That's eight talented men going at it in a Ladder Match. The only man not proven in Ladder Matches is Charlie Haas, and not only do I think he would be great in it, he could also play the role of anchor, and keep the thing grounded at times, utilising psychology.

If Money in the Bank happens this year, I think RAW should offer Jeff Hardy and Shelton Benjamin. I don't know what will happen to Charlie Haas, but it is obvious the WWE has a preference for Benjamin. I can see this leading to a Haas vs. Benjamin feud, something the WWE has never really done, and could be awesome if they did. SmackDown! should send forth Matt Hardy and Chris Benoit. I'm tempted to say Chavo Guerrero, but he is really below Hardy and Benoit on the contendership leader. Maybe have him challenge a face Gregory Helms for the WWE Cruiserweight Championship? ECW can be represented by CM Punk and Rob Van Dam. As a former MITB winner, I think there will be enough energy behind RVD to get him in the match, even against WWE politics.

Who should win? Personally, I'd go with Chris Benoit or CM Punk. Benoit winning would almost be as magical as his Rumble win, and having Benoit teasing going after the WWE Title and ECW World Title could be fun. CM Punk winning would launch him to that permanent main event level, and he could very easily play the role of fish looking for go to a larger pond. My third pick would be Matt Hardy, as I am a big fan of the guy, and think a win for him would be huge. If Edge wins the WWE Title at WrestleMania (like he should), I think an Edge vs. Matt Hardy feud would be extremely entertaining. Although CM Punk and Chris Benoit could have just as much fun chasing the Title. RVD has no chance, and I don't think Shelton or Jeff should win it. A Matt vs. Jeff feud heading into Summerslam over the WWE Title is a bit of a pipe-dream, but it could work in a weird sort of way.

Johnny Nitro seems like an obvious candidate for the Money in the Bank Ladder Match, but I'd rather see MNM team-up to challenge Paul London & Brian Kendrick for the WWE Tag Team Championship. MNM fall short, and we see Nitro attack Joey Mercury again, which would make this the second time London & Kendrick have forced MNM to turn on each other out of frustration. You could maybe add the SmackDown! teams of William Regal & Dave Taylor and either Deuce N' Domino or my pipe-dream team of Jimmy Wang Yang & Funaki to the match. Come on, Funaki lives in San Antonio, is good friends with Stone Cold Steve Austin, a huge fan of Shawn Michaels. Why not have two Japanese cowboys?

[Jeritron]

If theres a MITB, I think CM Punk should be half of the ECW offering.

[parkmania]

If it's ever decided to kill WWECW once and for all, I think this could be a great way to reduce the belts. Let's be realistic - the Raw/SD! split is gonna be with us for a LOOONG while still. ECW? Not so much.

[Shadow]

As much as I'd like to see it, there's no way Jeff or Matt Hardy will win a MITB ladder match at Mania. They're talented guys with little (Jeff anyway)mic skills. they'll be IC'ers for life or thrown back together in a nostaligic tag team.

Just ask Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas

Go to hell and die.

Or get fucked up the ass by Satan. Either way really.

[Corkscrewed]

What if a Rumble Winner won the rumble, and then cashed in the MITB that night at the rumble after the title match and won the title. Then stood soverign in the main event of Wrestlemania? Would the universe implode?

The only person who could pull this off and make it a him vs himself match scenario is Hulk Hogan.


Oh shit, I just gave the writers an idea. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[El Fangel]

OK thought of a new scenario. Totally not going to happen though. Lets say at this years Wrestlemania, Jeff Hardy wins MITB. and waits to the rumble, and wins it, next he goes to Wrestlemania, and wins the next MITB, so he uses his rumble win, and his two MITB to challenge every champion to a hell in a cell fatal four way elimination match , triple world title match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It'd be a neat way to unify the titles if a guy won the Money in the Bank, held onto it until the Royal Rumble, won that, and then cashed in his shot for the World Heavyweight Title after SmackDown!'s Champion retained. He then decides to challenge for the WWE Title at WrestleMania as World Heavyweight Champion.

The two men I can see doing this are CM Punk and Chris Jericho, neither of whom will. :(

[Kane Knight]

Go to hell and die.

Or get fucked up the ass by Satan. Either way really.

Why? for saying that the hardyz wil never main event?

[Xero]

Go to hell and die.

Or get fucked up the ass by Satan. Either way really.
Put your markism aside and tell me why Jeff Hardy should get a run.

[Jeritron]

Why? for saying that the hardyz wil never main event?

I think he's wrong for comparing their fate and chances to charlie haas and shelton benjamin. They've clearly already surpassed them by far, and have the potential to go on to better things (mainly Jeff). Just ask the Rockers. But seriously, they're unofficially back together because tag teams suck and they need something for them to do. I wouldn't completely rule out Jeff getting a big push this summer or in the coming year or so.

[Djscorpion]

The MITB ladder match should not be 6 way match. It should be a one on one match with qualifying matches either on RAW or the night of WM 23.
I wouldnt mind seeing Edge, Orton , and HBK in the tournment if the main event will be UT vs Cena. This way we can see them in some good matches throughout the night at WM.

[St. Jimmy]

What if a Rumble Winner won the rumble, and then cashed in the MITB that night at the rumble after the title match and won the title. Then stood soverign in the main event of Wrestlemania? Would the universe implode?

That would be the most legit way to unify the titles.

[TerranRich]

I love most, if not all, of the above ideas for the MITB shot. Has anyone mentioned the King of the Ring? Whoever wins the MITB, the other brand should have a KOTR tournament, like they did last year, for their title.

I love the ideas about title unification through loopholes thanks to winning both the Rumble and the MITB.