Official RAW Thread (2/19/2007): Friend or Foes?/Money In The Bank 3.

[KingofOldSchool]

:lol: They'd may as well say that.

I actually saw The Highlanders as future WWE World Tag Team champions at one point. Now they're The Bushwhackers: The Next Generation.

At least The Bushwhackers won matches.

Hell The Bushwhackers defeated The Rogeaus at Wrestlemania V.

[Marc the Smark]

This episode of Raw has FLOWN by. But nothing much has really happened.

There are two new champions and we know whose McMahon "representative" will be.

[Ninti the Mad]

I bet Khali could get semi-over if he kept doing those interviews in his native language.

That would be hilarious because everyone would say "what" after every sentence.

[NeanderCarl]

At least The Bushwhackers won matches.

Hell The Bushwhackers defeated The Rogeaus at Wrestlemania V.

The Bushwhackers defeated The Rougeaus EVERY night. And when they left, they kicked The Beverly Brothers asses from city to city. Long live The Bushwhackers.

[SammyG]

Cena vs Orton comin up in a bit.

[The Optimist]

Every Raw tag team has been totally immasculated within the last year.

I looked it up.

Big Show & Kane, two guys put together because they're big.

Spirit Squad, I don't think I have to explain how badly they fucked the whole rest of the division

Flair and Piper, killed the Spirit Squad

Edge and Orton, again two singles wrestlers stuck together and given the belt for free

[Skippord]

Grindhouse looks sick

[Marc the Smark]

Is Brutus Beefcake there???

[NeanderCarl]

There are two new champions and we know whose McMahon "representative" will be.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. Nothing exciting has happened.

[SammyG]

Fuck, we don't need to see this again.

[NeanderCarl]

Is Brutus Beefcake there???

I wish.

[ClockShot]

I demand Stone Cold Steve Austin. NOW!

[Marc the Smark]

Notice the long delay before Vince said Umaga's name??

Did he FORGET Umaga's name? :lol:

[NeanderCarl]

Trump should choose Jesse Ventura as his representative. I would buy that one for sure.

[KingofOldSchool]

LOL

[ClockShot]

I bet Khali could get semi-over if he kept doing those interviews in his native language.

That would be hilarious because everyone would say "what" after every sentence.

You got your wish, sir.

[Skippord]

Ahahahahaha

[Linkbowler]

Khali needs a mouthpiece, desperately.

[Ninti the Mad]

lol Khali looked like he missed his cue to walk away and then Ron Simmons face

[Ninti the Mad]

You got your wish, sir.


ALMOST

Hopefully soon enough.

[Reavant]

ashley..... VERY NICE

[NeanderCarl]

Oh, man.... Ashley. NeanderCarl likes Ashley.

[Marc the Smark]

ashley..... VERY NICE

her stench is coming through my tv screen

[Ninti the Mad]

They should have that Russian guy talk for Khali. :shifty:

[ClockShot]

Who the fuck is this guy?

[NeanderCarl]

Who called Melina vs Ashley?

[KingofOldSchool]

I have a sickly feeling that it's going to be Melina vs. Ashley for the title at Mania.

[Marc the Smark]

who's the new interview geek?

[St. Jimmy]

When Maria gets naked (and not in playboy, more like Hustler) call me.

[NeanderCarl]

Any sign of Vinnie Jones tonight?

[St. Jimmy]

The DREAM!

[NeanderCarl]

New Hall of Famer??

Mr Perfect!

[KingofOldSchool]

PERFECT

[St. Jimmy]

WOOT.

[ClockShot]

FUCK YEAH! HENING IS GOING IN!

[Linkbowler]

Excellent choice. Or should I say...PERFECT choice.

[Jura]

The Perfect One

[Marc the Smark]

ABOUT FRICKIN' TIME! :eek:

[NeanderCarl]

My all-time favourite ever wrestler. Fantastic.

[Caged Heat18]

Mr. Perfect. Great choice.

[Ninti the Mad]

RIP Hennig

[Skippord]

:love:

[Loose Cannon]

PERFECT :LOVE:

[NeanderCarl]

It's a real shame he can't be there to accept it.

[Marc the Smark]

Rest in Peace, Curt Henning. You were absolutely perfect.

[St. Jimmy]

They're doing it at the Fox?! HOLY SHIT.

[Loose Cannon]

The model IC Champion

[ClockShot]

I'll watch the H.O.F. show just for him.

[Jura]

http://www.wwe-germanysuperstars.de/html/images/curthennig_biobild3.jpg
http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/henningplex.jpg

[KingofOldSchool]

Ugh some loser putting over Cena.

[Marc the Smark]

They're doing it at the Fox?! HOLY SHIT.

Why the surprise?

[KingofOldSchool]

I'll watch the H.O.F. show just for him.

Too bad it's not airing on TV this year.

[James Steele]

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning <3 <3 <3

[Reavant]

Anyone remember his "rap is crap" angle in wcw :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[St. Jimmy]

Why the surprise?

I know an assload of people who work there and also it's a really great place.

[Loose Cannon]

oh and Greg Valentine was one of the best IC Champs the WWE had back in the 80's. Saw a post that had him in a group with Albert before. come on

[ClockShot]

Too bad it's not airing on TV this year.

Pity. I'm gonna have to dig around for one online.

[Marc the Smark]

I presume Curt's father will be inducting him? Larry the Ax Henning?

[The Optimist]

Ashley looks like an anorexic made of stone.

[Azriel]

So, if it's Melina vs. Ashley, what's going to happen to Mickie? Triple threat?

[Loose Cannon]

I swear I've seen more footage of Mania 1 aired on WWE programming in the past 3 years then any years before that combined

[The Genius]

his dad will probably induct him but i hope his former manager The Genius also makes an appearance.

[Reavant]

So, if it's Melina vs. Ashley, what's going to happen to Mickie? Triple threat?

She gets demoted to doing Diva invitationals

[St. Jimmy]

I just realised something, March 31st, Foley is doing a book signing at a Borders at Taylor, MI.

Pretty sure he's gonna be at mania.

[Marc the Smark]

Melina Vs. Ashley Vs. Mickie in a WrestleMania "Intermission Match"

[KingofOldSchool]

So, if it's Melina vs. Ashley, what's going to happen to Mickie? Triple threat?

No, they are just going to throw one of their top female wrestlers to the side for the Playboy cover girl.

[The Optimist]

I like that this was sort of a dream match in like 2005.

[Loose Cannon]

Cena/Orton again on a Raw :(

This was my Mania 23 prediction two manias ago

[Marc the Smark]

Does anyone remember last year at this time there was talk of Orton and Cena main-eventing WM 23?

[KingofOldSchool]

The girls are out in full force.

[NeanderCarl]

The thing people tend to forget about WrestleMania 1 is that it absolutely sucked.

And Greg Valentine was a solid hand, as far as a mid-carder who the fans could buy in to as a bit of a tough guy. But man, was he boring. He always came across as WWE's weak answer to Ric Flair, especially in the late 80s, early 90s.

[Loose Cannon]

I like that this was sort of a dream match in like 2005.

see :(

[KingofOldSchool]

Cena/Orton again on a Raw :(

This was my Mania 23 prediction two manias ago

That was my Mania 22 prediction three years ago.

[Jura]

The girls are out in full force.
Yeah lol

[The Optimist]

No, they are just going to throw one of their top female wrestlers to the side for the Playboy cover girl.When I read that outloud I said it with s.. . . . .

God.


Nevermind, I didn't even see the move but I heard JR say "Shades of a perfecplex" and I just died a little.

[Loose Cannon]

The thing people tend to forget about WrestleMania 1 is that it absolutely sucked.

And Greg Valentine was a solid hand, as far as a mid-carder who the fans could buy in to. But man, was he boring. He always came across as WWE's weak answer to Ric Flair, especially in the late 80s, early 90s.

yea, he was terrible late 80's/early 90's. Back when he feuded with Tito over the IC, he was good

[The Optimist]

This movie looks so badass.

[Reavant]

Samual L Jackson is a pimp

[NeanderCarl]

Notice they haven't really mentioned who is going to be inducting the Hall of Famers this year. I wouldn't have thought that Larry 'The Axe' Hennig would induct Mr. Perfect into the HOF, he'll probably accept it on his behalf.

My guess is that Bobby Heenan, Ric Flair or Bret Hart will do the actual induction.

[KingofOldSchool]

Notice they haven't really mentioned who is going to be inducting the Hall of Famers this year. I wouldn't have thought that Larry 'The Axe' Hennig would induct Mr. Perfect into the HOF, he'll probably accept it on his behalf.

My guess is that Bobby Heenan, Ric Flair or Bret Hart will do the actual induction.

They normally don't announce those things until everyone has been announced or close to it.

[James Steele]

Bulldog needs to be inducted

[NeanderCarl]

Last year they were announcing the inductors at the same time they were announcing the inductees, for a lot of the entrants.

[SammyG]

Is michaels gonna come superkick them both or something.

[St. Jimmy]

I fear Michaels is not going to turn heel =/

[NeanderCarl]

I don't think they are likely to do more than one or two posthumous inductions per year. Hennig is in and The Sheik is more than likely in, so Bulldog is unlikely this year.

Anyone else think Sunny, Howard Finkel, Percy Pringle and Abdullah The Butcher should be inducted?

[ClockShot]

Is michaels gonna come superkick them both or something.

He's got a second crack at it.

[SammyG]

that DDT looked way brutal.

[St. Jimmy]

Garvin Stomp > Rest Hold

[St. Jimmy]

So Orton does the stomp AND a rest hold. He is definitely a true athlete. :shifty:

[KingofOldSchool]

"And all of the girls in the audience are trying to get behind Cena."

[ClockShot]

I don't think they are likely to do more than one or two posthumous inductions per year. Hennig is in and The Sheik is more than likely in, so Bulldog is unlikely this year.

Anyone else think Sunny, Howard Finkel, Percy Pringle and Abdullah The Butcher should be inducted?

Sunny maybe. But I've heard awhile back that if she can get back into "Sunny shape", Vince would let her back in. Everyone else would be fine.

But now that Hogan spilled the beans on the list. There may be a whole new group to choose from.

[SammyG]

HULKING UP

[KingofOldSchool]

Cena's wigging up.

[NeanderCarl]

Problem with this match is that nobody surely believes Orton is going to get a clean win over Cena, especially with Cena heading into the main event of WrestleMania. So we know we're either getting a clean Cena win or a dubious Orton win. When the only options are so clear to the viewer before the match even starts, it renders the match pointless.

Say what you will about Vince Russo as a booker, but the most sensible thing he ever did (and the main reason WWE came back and destroyed WCW) was that he "ripped up the rule book", all the things you just KNEW were going to happen (such as the result of this match here) stopped happening. Whether Russo's booking was bad or good, at least you didn't see it coming most of the time.

[SammyG]

5 KNUCKLE SHUFFLE BAH GAWD

[SammyG]

here it cooomess

[SammyG]

get out there shawn!

[ClockShot]

Here we go.

[NeanderCarl]

Sunny maybe. But I've heard awhile back that if she can get back into "Sunny shape", Vince would let her back in.

Sunny definitely. She was the ORIGINAL Diva, and the most downloaded woman on the internet for a couple of years. Okay, she fucked herself up over the years, and I wouldn't really care to see her back WORKING for the WWE, but Hall of Fame for sure. She was the originator.

I guess that also makes her indirectly to blame for all the talentless totty we get on TV today, but don't hold it against her...

Oh, a schmozz. What a surprise.

[KingofOldSchool]

DECK HIM SHAWN

[KingofOldSchool]

WHAT THE HELL, USE THE CHAIR!

[KingofOldSchool]

DAMNIT

[Skippord]

Gay

[ClockShot]

You spineless bastard. That's twice tonight.

[St. Jimmy]

oh those blatant teases.

[Jura]

HBK do it dammit!

[NeanderCarl]

That was a pretty boring Raw. Okay, a few title changes, a couple announcements, and still.... meh

[Loose Cannon]

Hogan/Warrior was better

[ClockShot]

NO! NO! JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES!

[SammyG]

I like it. I like the Cena HBK thing. Slow, methodical approach.

[ClockShot]

Have a good night everyone.

[Loose Cannon]

Problem with this match is that nobody surely believes Orton is going to get a clean win over Cena, especially with Cena heading into the main event of WrestleMania. So we know we're either getting a clean Cena win or a dubious Orton win. When the only options are so clear to the viewer before the match even starts, it renders the match pointless.

Say what you will about Vince Russo as a booker, but the most sensible thing he ever did (and the main reason WWE came back and destroyed WCW) was that he "ripped up the rule book", all the things you just KNEW were going to happen (such as the result of this match here) stopped happening. Whether Russo's booking was bad or good, at least you didn't see it coming most of the time.

good point. my thoughts exactly

[NeanderCarl]

I said it before, I'll say it again... Cena vs Michaels won't seem like a proper main event, until they eliminate the "one half of DX" aspect of Shawn's character. When has one half of an active tag team ever main evented WrestleMania, let alone won the WWE title?

[NeanderCarl]

(And, champions or not, I don't class HBK and Cena as an "active tag team". I mean a REAL team, with a team name, who tag more often than wrestle singles, which DX have over the last 9 months or so.)

[Splaya]

I actually see Cena snapping next week in the tag title match. Like let's say they lose. Cena goes over to shake Michaels hand, Shawn actually shakes his hand, walks away, Cena pulls him back, BAM. FU to HBK.

This way you get the heel champion being chased by the face challenger. As far as I'm concerned, they have all but turned Batista as well.

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

My thought would be for HBK to tease the superkick again next week, and Cena to just go berserk and bash him to pieces with a chair (i.e. heel turn).

[Corkscrewed]

They're not gonna turn Cena heel.

And even if they did, it'd be stupid to do it before Wrestlemania.

[Dave Youell]

I said it before, I'll say it again... Cena vs Michaels won't seem like a proper main event, until they eliminate the "one half of DX" aspect of Shawn's character. When has one half of an active tag team ever main evented WrestleMania, let alone won the WWE title?
Wrestlemania 14

Granted he lost, but he was still part of DX

ummm, The mega powers expolde? Mania 5?

[Dave Youell]

What are they doing with the Edge/Orton feud now? It makes Zero sense to have Edge in that match

[Loose Cannon]

The Mega Powers were not a tag team at Mania 5. They broke up weeks before.

And I see what he's saying about DX. Let's face it, today HBK is 2nd in command in DX. Back in 1998, he was the man.

[NeanderCarl]

Back in 1998, DX was a faction. Okay, by the time WM14 rolled around, Rick Rude had left and it was a three person deal, but still... nowadays it's a tag team, nothing more.

[NeanderCarl]

There can only be one of three reasons for keeping DX alive (with HBK wearing all the gear, coming out to the DX music and video and being announced as "DX member...", shilling the DVDs etc):

a) so Triple H can keep getting a nice paycheck while he's sat on the sidelines
b) so Triple H can turn heel on his return, and betray HBK who kept DX alive for months only to have it thrown back in his face
c) so the group stays hot for when Triple H returns.

All of those options revolve around the same person: Triple H. The man who isn't even active at the moment, for fucks sake.

This does not benefit Shawn Michaels (who apparently dislikes the DX angle anyway), it does not benefit WrestleMania (which is traditionally WWE's biggest money-spinning event of the year and thus all promotional activities, storylines and focus should be directed towards it at this time of year), and it will only serve to benefit WWE (if it even does) many months down the line, when the damage to both Shawn and WrestleMania has already been done.

[DAMN iNATOR]

That was a pretty boring Raw. Okay, a few title changes, a couple announcements, and still.... meh

Actually, I thought both title changes Monday were completely inappropriate and unnecessary, especially for a 400 lb. semi who at times makes Khali's ranting sound intelligent who only has like 5-7 moves in his arsenal, and we all know Melina has tremendous skill in the ring, but does she really need the Women's Championship at this early point in her career? As much as I hate to say it this looks to be another one of those shitty pre-WM "feuds" between 2 divas (Mickie & Melina in this case, as it were), that leads to Mickie re-capturing the belt at Mania, not that I'd mind the title switching, but I don't like the prospect of this angle right now, as it seems to be pointing in the direction where you can just tell the writers have decided, "okay, we need to go back to the 'Mickie's a psycho-bitch' plot." But anyway,...*SIGH*:nono:

[St. Jimmy]

blah blah blah.

DAMN!