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NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 12:48 PM
And by that I mean a celeb who actually gave the company their money's worth with their performance, being entertaining and immersing themselves in the wrestling business, rather than just standing there doing nothing (take note, Pamela Anderson).

We all know the impact Cyndi Lauper and Mike Tyson had on the business, helping to kick off two big booms for the WWE. They have to figure highly on the list.

For me, the two best celebrity appearances (although I may have forgotten some) were Pete Rose and Bob Uecker.

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 12:49 PM
And the thing is, those guys don't mean a thing to a Brit, I'd never heard of either of them, but they are examples of guys who surpassed any expectations when it came to a "celebrity appearance" at a wrestling show.

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 12:50 PM
Let's not forget the wrestling celebs.... Andy Kaufman, Lawrence Taylor, Steve McMichael, Dennis Rodman, Jay Leno, Karl Malone, David Arquette.... did any of them impress you much?

Optimus Bone 69
03-15-2007, 12:58 PM
Chucky and Robocop

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 01:00 PM
:roll: That's so obvious...

Jura
03-15-2007, 01:05 PM
The Rock when he came back to help Eugene.

But seriously I don't know. Drew Carey being in the Royal Rumble was funny.

Xero
03-15-2007, 01:07 PM
Goldust.

Optimus Bone 69
03-15-2007, 01:08 PM
Vinny Jones being given the red card by pat patterson at capital carnage may moons ago

The One
03-15-2007, 01:13 PM
Mr. T.

His being at WrestleMania I made that event a success. It changed the idea that rasslin was for red neck losers, it was also for dumb ass losers who watched The A Team. The point is, if it wern't for Mr. T at the first Mania I would say it's a fairly even bet that WWE would have folded due to the failure of what they had bet all their chips on in the first place.

After that I would say Andy Kauffman, Mike Tyson, and most recently (though to a much lesser extent than the beore mentioned ones), K-Fed did a good job of getting WWE that oh so craved pop culture media attention...

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 01:15 PM
Chucky and Robocop


rofl.

seriously, I'd say the answer is probably between Mr. T and Mike Tyson. I'll give them a tie.

Other notables, LT was pretty big I guess. Trump is proving to be pretty huge right now, I have heard people who don't watch wrestling talking about it. Pete Rose and Drew Carrey were classic but they weren't really big impacts.

So yea, I'll say tie between Mr. T and Tyson, with Trump and LT finishing in second.

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 01:16 PM
Mr. T.

His being at WrestleMania I made that event a success. It changed the idea that rasslin was for red neck losers, it was also for dumb ass losers who watched The A Team. The point is, if it wern't for Mr. T at the first Mania I would say it's a fairly even bet that WWE would have folded due to the failure of what they had bet all their chips on in the first place.

After that I would say Andy Kauffman, Mike Tyson, and most recently (though to a much lesser extent than the beore mentioned ones), K-Fed did a good job of getting WWE that oh so craved pop culture media attention...

Thing is I don't think KFed helped that much. He certainly gave some attention, not much tho. However he probably didn't cost much so I'm sure they got their moneys worth.

Right now Trump is helping out bigtime.

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 01:19 PM
Don't just take into account mainstream attention and impact on the business, take into account the actual quality of their work while they were involved in the business.

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 01:20 PM
Okay, then. My answers are still Mr. T and Mike Tyson.

and my secondary answers...LT and Trump.

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 01:22 PM
To me, as good as Tyson was for WWE, his actual performance wasn't great. He had a lot of talented people/writers working around him, making the most of his sheer presence.

The One
03-15-2007, 01:24 PM
Thing is I don't think KFed helped that much. He certainly gave some attention, not much tho. However he probably didn't cost much so I'm sure they got their moneys worth.

Right now Trump is helping out bigtime.

I was thinking on a value of the dollar deal. K-Fed was reportedly getting something like $50,000 for all of it or per apperence (Someone wanna find out which for me)...and based on that, they certainly got TONS of attention. VH1, Extra, Entertainment Tonight, even local news stations...you can't buy that much publicity. Was it all flatering? Certainly not, but it got people everywhere to talk about your product.

As for Trump, honestly, I havn't heard one thing about Trump other than the other day I heard a radio ad to watch WWE RAW because Trump was going to be on there. One radio ad. Now maybe I have just been missing Trump popping up elsewhere, but from my point of view, Trump is very 2 years ago. When K-Fed and Britney broke up (which they were going through right as he was making his WWE apperances) K-Fed was a hot commodity. On a grand scale I'm not sure he really helped business all that much, but from my point of view he certainly got more people talking than Trump has thus far...

The One
03-15-2007, 01:26 PM
Okay, then. My answers are still Mr. T and Mike Tyson.

and my secondary answers...LT and Trump.

Yeah, I was less than impressed with Tyson's performance. I mean he did a couple of crotch chops (which looks SO unnatural comming from him) and then made a fast count on Shawn Michaels, when I think it was supposed to be a regular count. Either way, less than impressed with big Mike's acting ability.

Oh, but another feather in my K-Fed cap, he could actually work the mic. And he had the crowd hating him. He played the heel very very well.

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 01:27 PM
Trump is very 2 years ago.

Trump is not just some "15 mins of fame" celebrity though. He has been a well known name worldwide for decades. The Apprentice just increased his name value amongst younger people.

Lock Jaw
03-15-2007, 01:28 PM
Leslie Neilson hunting for The Undertaker is obviously the winner.

NeanderCarl
03-15-2007, 01:30 PM
I loved the Leslie Nielsen stuff as a kid. Couldn't work out why WWF was making such a mockery of their most serious character going MIA, but still... Frank Drebin at SummerSlam!

The One
03-15-2007, 01:34 PM
Trump is not just some "15 mins of fame" celebrity though. He has been a well known name worldwide for decades. The Apprentice just increased his name value amongst younger people.

Obviously Trump has been around for decades, he's Donald Trump for god sake. What I'm saying is when taking the pop culture pulse, there can only be so many hot topic stories at one time. When Donald was first doing "You're Fired" and had the apprentice, he was a hot topic. Not saying no one knows or cares who he is, I'm saying that he's not at a high point of public interest. No one thinks he is going to have his head shaved, so no one is all that interested. Now if the public actually thought he might go bald after all the shit he got over his bad comb over, then maybe he would be a hot topic again. It's like Ben Affleck, when he wad dating JLo, tabloids died to get a picture of him, now that he's with Garner, he's still a celeb, but not nearly as how. At the time, K-Fed was HOT.

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 01:42 PM
Trump isn't two years ago. First of all the Trump/Vince angle is getting mroe attention than Cena/Kfed. I promise you, I watch tv all the time. Plus I've also heard it talked about by friends and family, who don't watch wrestling.
The Trump thing was in the newspaper, has been mentioned on just about every news and entertainment channel I can think of, including ESPN.
And his face comes up in the bottom right of the screen on USA about twice an hour, with the words WWE Raw, Mondays 9/8 c.

Trump was huge 2 years ago, but he still is. And he just had the whole thing with Rosie, Apprentice is still huge. He's still Donald Trump for christ sakes.

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 01:51 PM
Kfed should come back and be a face. I mean, look at his wife. He used to be a huge heel, cuz everyone hated him. But thanks to Britney, he now looks like the victim. He looks like the good one. Kfed might have the best faceturn of the year.

FourFifty
03-15-2007, 02:27 PM
Kfed should come back and be a face. I mean, look at his wife. He used to be a huge heel, cuz everyone hated him. But thanks to Britney, he now looks like the victim. He looks like the good one. Kfed might have the best faceturn of the year.


......as much as I want to tell you that's the stupidest idea since crystal pepsi, I think it would work......

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 02:35 PM
I was kidding. But seriously, if they were to bring him back in any capacity they could easily make him a face now. Have him cut a promo on what a mess Britney is, and how he wants his children back. Then have a heel come out and beat him down, and a face rescue him. You have instant face heat, not to mention an in ring segment from WWE being played on everything from MTV to major news channels.

The Ravishing One
03-15-2007, 02:37 PM
I was kidding. But seriously, if they were to bring him back in any capacity they could easily make him a face now. Have him cut a promo on what a mess Britney is, and how he wants his children back. Then have a heel come out and beat him down, and a face rescue him. You have instant face heat, not to mention an in ring segment from WWE being played on everything from MTV to major news channels.

Yeah it would work. Vince would love to expose the divorce thing even more.

The Ravishing One
03-15-2007, 02:37 PM
I'm going with Mike Tyson.

jindrak
03-15-2007, 04:36 PM
Sometime around 1995 I lost interest in all wrestling to the point where I stopped watching entirely. When I heard that Mike Tyson was to be involved at WM14, I regained interest in wrestling and have been hooked since.

Arnold HamNegger
03-15-2007, 04:44 PM
I'm gonna go with Sylvester Stallone in Rocky 3.

The Show Off
03-15-2007, 04:49 PM
If you go by a guy that really understood what he was doing out there, Andy Kaufman was by far the best celebrity in wrestling ever. He actually sold wrestling as totally real with what happened on the David Letterman show. Not to mention the guy worked the mic better then most actual wrestlers that came down the pike. In fact if you were supposed to play the cowardly heel in the wrestling buisness you have to watch Andy Kaufman promos. The guy was pure gold.

Arnold HamNegger
03-15-2007, 04:55 PM
If you go by a guy that really understood what he was doing out there, Andy Kaufman was by far the best celebrity in wrestling ever. He actually sold wrestling as totally real with what happened on the David Letterman show. Not to mention the guy worked the mic better then most actual wrestlers that came down the pike. In fact if you were supposed to play the cowardly heel in the wrestling buisness you have to watch Andy Kaufman promos. The guy was pure gold.

I agree with this 100% :y:

Rammsteinmad
03-15-2007, 04:58 PM
I'm going with Mike Tyson.

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 06:23 PM
TYSON TYSON TYSON!!!!

Jeritron
03-15-2007, 06:24 PM
ROFL at Tyson's post WM14 press conference btw. If you haven't watched that shit, I suggest it.

DTM
03-15-2007, 06:47 PM
Mr. T definately. He was the main draw for WrestleMania.

KayfabeMan
03-16-2007, 12:49 AM
I am going with Andy Kaufman.

Also, I'd like to say that LT did a great job with his appearances and worked hard too. Also, Dennis Rodman - as it definitely helped that Dennis was so in tune with it, and into the idea of doing it. I liked his stuff with Hogan, Macho, DDP, Curt Hennig, etc. He was great as well.

Favre4Ever
03-16-2007, 01:27 AM
Haha Drew Carey.

D Mac
03-16-2007, 01:53 AM
Don't forget Arnold Schwarzenegger beating the shit out of HHH!

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KayfabeMan
03-16-2007, 04:09 AM
What about Jason Hervey?

http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesB/bischoff_hervey.jpg

You know, of Bischoff Hervey Productions. Anyone remember when he was special guest judge at [I believe] Clash of the Champions one time? Plus, I think he was on WCW Programming several times, on Hogan Knows Best - AND - he fucked Missy Hyatt.

Although I guess the last one could apply to anyone.

SammyG
03-16-2007, 04:28 AM
Mr. T fo sho

Jeritron
03-16-2007, 07:09 AM
Arnold's appearance was the goods. I can't believe it was on Smackdown, seems PPV worthy to me.

TBH, Arnold as part of a Wrestlemania seems like something thats so obvious that I can't believe it hasn't been done. IMO, it'd be good.
Not in a match, but either in a guest appareance like that or a Special Enforcer role.

Azriel
03-16-2007, 11:58 AM
Yeah, would have to say Kaufman

Jeritron
03-16-2007, 12:06 PM
fuck that. Mr. T dude. The Wrestling boom of the last half of the 80s was in part due to Mr. T's involvement, just as the boom of the attitude era had to do with Tyson.
Of course I'm not saying their responsible, but they were counterparts of major events that launched eras and went hand in hand with the leaders of those eras respectively (Hogan and Austin).
For that, they were major contributors. It'd be wrong to credit them with the success, but they deserve some props as part of it.
Those are probably the two high points of wrestling in history. At least in terms of financial and mainstream success. So for that those services are invaluable.

Others were very entertaining, and even gained attention for the promotion it occured in. In a lot of cases, it was actually quality work and involvement. But I don't think any of it holds a candle to the work of Mr. T and Mike Tyson.

The Show Off
03-17-2007, 01:50 AM
fuck that. Mr. T dude. The Wrestling boom of the last half of the 80s was in part due to Mr. T's involvement, just as the boom of the attitude era had to do with Tyson.
Of course I'm not saying their responsible, but they were counterparts of major events that launched eras and went hand in hand with the leaders of those eras respectively (Hogan and Austin).
For that, they were major contributors. It'd be wrong to credit them with the success, but they deserve some props as part of it.
Those are probably the two high points of wrestling in history. At least in terms of financial and mainstream success. So for that those services are invaluable.

Others were very entertaining, and even gained attention for the promotion it occured in. In a lot of cases, it was actually quality work and involvement. But I don't think any of it holds a candle to the work of Mr. T and Mike Tyson.

The thread doesn't say most influential or most impact it's "best." Mr. T was terrible and if it weren't for the brilliance of Roddy Piper it would have been less then terrible. As for Mike Tyson his appearences wre so lame all he did was stand there and do half assed crotch chops, and the fakest looking pulled punch ever.

Then you look at the old tapes of Andy Kaufman wrestling women, and getting into it with Jerry Lawler and that stuff is amazing. Kaufman was a guy that actually cared about what he was doing and made the show better. So what if the casual wrestling fan was intrested in Mr. T or Mike Tyson, the casual fan was also intrested in Dennis Rodman, Karl Malone and Jay Leno, all of which were stupid as hell.

If you're saying drawing power then sure Mr. T and Mike Tyson deserve there due, but if you're saying best then it has to be Andy Kaufman the only celebrity to actually carry a fued on the mic and in the ring. A guy with that much name recognition to two of the hottest TV shows of the time (Taxi and Saturday Night Live) that was beloved for his lovable character to get people to despise him to the point he recieved death threats, now that's a fucking heel, Mr. T nor Mike Tyson pulled that off.