The official Smackdown vs Raw 2008 thread

[Gerard]

Or better, not put them in at all since they serve no purpose in the game.


So playable characters serves no purpose in the game....i take it you never got the storyline in 2k7 where you were fighting against the legends?

Its also extra characters to toss into battle royales or whatever kind of exhibition match you want to set up, so how do they serve no purpose?

[KingofOldSchool]

So playable characters serves no purpose in the game....i take it you never got the storyline in 2k7 where you were fighting against the legends?

Its also extra characters to toss into battle royales or whatever kind of exhibition match you want to set up, so how do they serve no purpose?


The extra characters could be used towards...ummm I don't know. Current wrestlers?

If they want to include legends, make a damn legends game instead of giving us seven random guys each year.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>^ Exactly. Let's see...you can throw in Londrick, Thorn, Striker, Cade/Murdoch, and Jimmy Wang Yang if you don't bother doing legends this year.

But sadly they are here to stay, cause God Forbid they exclude the Rock in a game called "Smackdown"</font> :roll:

[Extreme Angle]

countdown?

[Disturbed316]

Later today you impatient fool.

[Extreme Angle]

yesterdays?

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Monday - Friday only Extreme. :D

[Extreme Angle]

so...
how later today isit gonna be D?

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, no weekends on the countdown, and I'm not gonna do notes this year, have very little time :(

Hopefully they will do someone decent from Raw tonight, Orton or someone of that caliber.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm guessing it'll either be:


Triple H
King Booker
Randy Orton
John Cena.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm gonna throw a total guess and say Umaga

*waits for it to be a diva*</font> :shifty:

[KingofOldSchool]

so...
how later today isit gonna be D?

It'll be up when it's up, christ you're worse than people at Gamefaqs.

[Loose Cannon]

lol

[Lux]

Later today you impatient fool.
12 Hours later *taps foot*

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>The countdown has been posted around 9-10 PM ET every time thus far. Expect the trend to continue.</font>

[Lux]

Fuck the trend, i want it now *whines*

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/818/818918/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070910024311659.jpg

Finishers - Go To Sleep, SS Anaconda Vise 1
Fighting Styles - Submission, Technical

STR 7
SUB 9
DUR 8.5
TEC 8.5
SPD 9
CHA 8.5
HRD 8.5
STA 8.5

PS3
CM Punk Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/818/818568/svr08_091007_01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Go To Sleep on Rey Mysterio (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/818/818568/svr08_091007_02_wmvlowwide.wmv)

PS2
CM Punk Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819097/CM01_wmvlow.wmv)
Go To Sleep on Matt Hardy (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819097/CM02_wmvlow.wmv)

[KingofOldSchool]

Niiiice.

[NeanderCarl]

Having seen the roster for this years game, I have to admit to being grossly disinterested in this installment, which is a shame because I've been a huge fan of the series since Here Comes The Pain. I've always been excited about the release of each game, but this has little new to offer, and follows the apparent SVR trend of taking more away with one hand than it gives with the other.

I should reserve judgement until I've played it, but I'm certainly not going to fork out for a next gen console for the sake of this game, as I had considered earlier in the year. If I buy it at all, it will be on the PS2.

[NeanderCarl]

Having seen the roster for this years game, I have to admit to being grossly disinterested in this installment, which is a shame because I've been a huge fan of the series since Here Comes The Pain. I've always been excited about the release of each game, but this has little new to offer, and follows the apparent SVR trend of taking more away with one hand than it gives with the other.

I should reserve judgement until I've played it, but I'm certainly not going to fork out for a next gen console for the sake of this game, as I had considered earlier in the year. If I buy it at all, it will be on the PS2.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

The GTS is really well animated.

[D Mac]

92 for Punk. Everybody's very high rated. Cena's gonna be 98 or 99.

[The Fugitive]

Do you really think so? I thought they could be a little more force behind it or at least the opponent could sell it more.

Frankly, I'm surprised that they've used Punk this early in the countdown.

[D Mac]

Our first time hearing Joey Styles in the game. :love:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Do you really think so? I thought they could be a little more force behind it or at least the opponent could sell it more.

Frankly, I'm surprised that they've used Punk this early in the countdown.

I don't mind the selling, since I've always viewed it as a knockout move. Plus, I'm happy they don't have an extreme selling of it (like Burke or Dykstra does) The only reason I really like the animation is they actually have the knee hitting the head, as opposed to the chest.

[Skippord]

Cena is going to be rated 900

[D Mac]

Tomorrow has to be a Raw guy or diva.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Edited pofiles with there PS2 vids and Kelly Kelly's Fighting Style, though only the Primary's are right as most of the Secondary's are guesses by there in ring style on T.V.

[Sephiroth]

Cena will be the immortal in the game, no matter what or who you throw at him, he will not lose.

It's kinda like he is in real life.

[KingofOldSchool]

I call Carlito

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/819/819289/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070911103326768.jpg

Finishers - Extreme Makeover, California Dream
Fighting Styles - Technical, Showman

STR 5
SUB 6
DUR 6
TEC 7
SPD 7
CHA 7.5
HRD 6
STA 7

PS3
Melina Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/819/819249/MEL02_091107_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Melina vs Kelly Kelly (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/819/819249/MEL01_091107_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Extreme Makeover to Kelly Kelly (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/819/819249/MEL03_091107_wmvlowwide.wmv)

PS2
Melina Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819284/MEL01_wmvlow.wmv)
Extreme Makeover to Kelly Kelly (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819284/MEL02_wmvlow.wmv)

[KingofOldSchool]

I think IGN's got their links screwed up.

[CSL]

PS3 entrance is an elbow through announce table

[CSL]

Or maybe not

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

IGN messed up typing there links, I fixed them since I didn't believe it at first. And about the Fighting Styles, all the Primary Fighting Styles are correct since they are the symbol from the match.

[KingofOldSchool]

Her entrance is spot on.

Her finisher? I don't remember her ever using a modified Stratusfaction.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Christ, even the divas are rated high.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Finally got my computer back (and thus, video with audio). Immediately watched CM Punk's entrance and vid to hear Joey Styles.

Its cool having Joey in a Smackdown game along with new Tazz commentary. The fact that there are probably fresh phrases for ECW will make the commentary not so bad (though sadly...once again the commentators could be telling a story and stop as soon as a reversal, climb to the top, or pinfall occurs)</font> :(

[D Mac]

Will probably turn the commentary down except for ECW matches. :D

[Mister Sinister]

I Hope the Anaconda Vice is in the game.

[CSL]

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/article/818/818918/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070910024311659.jpg

Finishers - Go To Sleep, SS Anaconda Vise 1
Fighting Styles - Submission(symbol in vid), Technique(guess by style)

STR 7
SUB 9
DUR 8.5
TEC 8.5
SPD 9
CHA 8.5
HRD 8.5
STA 8.5

PS3
CM Punk Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/818/818568/svr08_091007_01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Go To Sleep on Rey Mysterio (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/818/818568/svr08_091007_02_wmvlowwide.wmv)

PS2
CM Punk Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819097/CM01_wmvlow.wmv)
Go To Sleep on Matt Hardy (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819097/CM02_wmvlow.wmv)

[Disturbed316]

I wonder if he'll taken them down first, or just have it as a head finisher.

[Disturbed316]

lol where is the pepsi tattoo?

;)

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol yeah I noticed that. Theres also a tattoo missing from his other arm too, not sure what it is though, or why it would have been removed

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol yeah I noticed that. Theres also a tattoo missing from his other arm too, not sure what it is though, or why it would have been removed

[KingofOldSchool]

It's his Cobra tattoo that's missing since it's basically a G.I. Joe logo.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Why would anyone get a G.I Joe tattoo.....Kids these days...

[Kane Knight]

The extra characters could be used towards...ummm I don't know. Current wrestlers?

If they want to include legends, make a damn legends game instead of giving us seven random guys each year.

:y:

Or, of course, give us more of both.

A roster of 80 is nto remotely unfeasible. that could easily be roughly 30 from SD and Raw Apiece, 10 from ECW, because they're a smaller show with a theoretically smaller roster, and still include 10 legends. If you really want ECW wrestlers, replace 30 from Raw/SD with 25. ECW shouldn't need 20, let alone more.

We're not getting more and bigger. Several recent SD games have had roster cuts, not expansions, and instead of results, we get excuses.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/819/819601/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070912015700920.jpg

Finishers - Playmaker, Player's Boot
Fighting Styles - Technical, Showman

STR 8
SUB 8
DUR 8.5
TEC 9
SPD 7.5
CHA 8
HRD 7.5
STA 8

PS3
MVP Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/819/819589/MVP002_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Playmaker (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/819/819589/MVP001_001_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Player's Boot (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/819/819589/MVP003_wmvlowwide.wmv)

PS2
MVP Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819624/MVP01_wmvlow.wmv)
MVP vs Rey Mysterio (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819624/MVP02_wmvlow.wmv)
Playmaker (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/819/819624/MVP03_wmvlow.wmv)

[CSL]

Hardy 90, Punk 92, MVP 85?

Eh?

[Ninti the Mad]

Hardy 90, Punk 92, MVP 85?

Eh?


They had to consider his heart condition.

[CSL]

lol

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Ok so Punk is 3 stats points behind Taker but 7 ahead of MVP :S

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol wtf @ 85 for MVP

Ah well....at least his entrance looks right and the model is good</font>

[KingofOldSchool]

:y:

Or, of course, give us more of both.

A roster of 80 is nto remotely unfeasible. that could easily be roughly 30 from SD and Raw Apiece, 10 from ECW, because they're a smaller show with a theoretically smaller roster, and still include 10 legends. If you really want ECW wrestlers, replace 30 from Raw/SD with 25. ECW shouldn't need 20, let alone more.

We're not getting more and bigger. Several recent SD games have had roster cuts, not expansions, and instead of results, we get excuses.

I wouldn't even want just 10 legends, either give me a full legends roster or forget it.

[Cuzziebro]

I hope they change JBL's commentating. He sounds like a bloody robot.

[D Mac]

I hope they change JBL's commentating. He sounds like a bloody robot.

Agreeed. I marked out when I first heard him now I'm kinda dissapointed.

[ddpBANG]

:|:| This is stupid. Why is he risking everything by going up there? :|:|



JBL's commentary is HORRIBLE! :nono:

[Cuzziebro]

Agreeed. I marked out when I first heard him now I'm kinda dissapointed.

Its really sounds like he is just reading what he has written in front of him. Rather than putting some emphasis and enthusiasm into what he has to say. He needs acting classes or something.

[Tommy Gunn]

85 for MVP?! God damn player haters.

[Lux]

I kinda marked out when i say his entrance and i really don't know why

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

So did I.

[KingofOldSchool]

Gee they showed the only two guys I was really looking forward to seeing this early and in a span of three days.

Wake me up when they announce DLC.

[Disturbed316]

lol MVP looks awesome, and the Playmaker/Overdrive actually looks as if it would hurt them this time. The players boot looks evil.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

4 pics

1 (http://www.thq-games.com/resources/screenshots/large/a28d76c35e0c2dec9a8b84fe00d990bf.jpg)
2 (http://www.thq-games.com/resources/screenshots/large/7a0c647367e8802665128ab4cde1d401.jpg)
3 (http://www.thq-games.com/resources/screenshots/large/a7ce9bd4dfead027059b06a4e30cd63c.jpg)
4 (http://www.thq-games.com/resources/screenshots/large/05ce6ebec9369869cae590b9a4924842.jpg)

[CSL]

Holy Sandman on fire!

[Kalyx triaD]

As the last 5 years suggest, the videogame will be the most entertainment I get from WWE.

[D Mac]

Holy Sandman on fire!

No, he got fired. :p

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820015/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070913041101990.jpg

Finishers - Hurracanrana 1, DDT 3
Fighting Styles - Brawler, Showman

STR 5
SUB 4
DUR 6
TEC 7
SPD 7
CHA 8
HRD 6
STA 7.5

PS3
Mickie James Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820008/MJ_Entrance_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Mickie James vs Melina (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820008/MJ_fightin001_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Hurricanrana (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820008/MJ_Finisher_wmvlowwide.wmv)

PS2
Mickie James Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/820/820042/MIC01_wmvlow.wmv)
Mickie James vs Melina (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/820/820042/MIC02_wmvlow.wmv)
Hurricanrana (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps2/article/820/820042/MIC03_wmvlow.wmv)

[KingofOldSchool]

Hurracanrana as Mickie's finisher?

Since when?

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I don't know, she does it as a normal, but usually wins with a DDT or Mick Kick.

[Tazz Dan]

92 for Punk. Everybody's very high rated. Cena's gonna be 98 or 99.

No, Cena's rating will be 1 so he can OVERCOME THE ODDS!!!!!!1111

[Lux]

I'm a little disappointed that the hurracanrana isn't the one using the turnbuckle, atleast make it be a normal move for christ sakes, btw wasn't that cena joke made already?

[Evil Vito]

No, Cena's rating will be 1 so he can OVERCOME THE ODDS!!!!!!1111

<font color=goldenrod>Cena's already been confirmed to have a 97 rating...I think Triple H might have 97 as well

This game is gonna feel so outdated...Cryme Tyme, Sandman, possibly Booker and Flair, tons of people missing</font>

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Greggy-IGN, the new person doing the Countdown, posted this on IGN Smackdown boards yesterday.

Hey--

The HIC match is more than 17 minutes long. It's processing now and taking forever.

Look for an updated hands-on Monday along with a handful of movies showing off the ECW Extreme Rules Match, exclusive features for the PS3 and 360, and more.

Now, back to 24/7 mode. http://media.ign.com/boardfaces/14.gif
Greg

So we might find out wether or not downloadable characters and custom soundtracks are in on Monday. I for one, hope they both are.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I think he ment to say HIAC. The HCAC match will be Undertaker vs Today's Superstar who could be a Main Eventer as well.

[KingofOldSchool]

So we might find out wether or not downloadable characters and custom soundtracks are in on Monday. I for one, hope they both are.

I doubt they will deny or confirm anything in those regards this soon.

I reckon the update on Monday is just more in-game fluff.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I can see them revealing custom themes Monday. As for DLCs, if they are in I'll bet they hold off until the end of the countdown. Just when everyone thinks its over...they announce a list of people available for download.</font>

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820137/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070913102528034.jpg

Finishers - Batista Bomb, Spinebuster 3
Fighting Styles - Powerhouse, Showman

STR 9
SUB 8.5
DUR 9
TEC 8.5
SPD 7
CHA 9
HRD 8.5
STA 8.5

PS3
Batista Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820135/Batista_entrance001_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Laviathan Spinebuster (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820135/Batista_finisher_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Batista Bomb(count out) (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820135/Batista_brawl_wmvlowwide.wmv)

PS2(vids coming soon)




Batista vs The Undertaker in HIAC (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820136/FridayFight_01_final_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[D Mac]

Good god JBL commentary is worse then Tazz. :nono:

[Gerard]

Batistas entrance always looks weird when it comes to the pyro pose, looks like hes squatting to squeeze out a shit. It doesn't really look that way on tv though :-\

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820015/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070913041101990.jpg

Finishers - Hurracanrana 1, DDT 3
Fighting Styles - Brawler, Showman

STR 5
SUB 4
DUR 6
TEC 7
SPD 7
CHA 8
HRD 6
STA 7.5


Holy Shit. A diva rated as a 70 in a SvR game? Not that Mickie isn’t great and/or one of my favorite divas in WWE at the moment, but haven’t most (but not all, mind you) divas in past SD! games gotten anywhere between 50-65?

[KingofOldSchool]

Holy Shit. A diva rated as a 70 in a SvR game? Not that Mickie isn’t great and/or one of my favorite divas in WWE at the moment, but haven’t most (but not all, mind you) divas in past SD! games gotten anywhere between 50-65?

Melina is a 71.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I really hope edit mode includes being able to edit attributes...but I'm not optimistic (God forbid people lower Cena's overall to human level)</font>

[Sephiroth]

Yeah I really hope edit mode includes being able to edit attributes...but I'm not optimistic (God forbid people lower Cena's overall to human level)

If the option will able you to edit attributes, you wouldn't be able to lower Cena's overall, he will be untouchable, as the WWE might be scared more fans would go out and "boo" Cena.

[Extreme Angle]

They'd probably have it like here comes the pain, if you got their attributes up in edit mode then you can press right on the d pad to make it come up as their edited attribs like they did in HCTP with the season mode attribs. Then they would have it so you can only use normal attribs for online

[Kane Knight]

If the option will able you to edit attributes, you wouldn't be able to lower Cena's overall, he will be untouchable, as the WWE might be scared more fans would go out and "boo" Cena.

You'd be able to lower his attributes, but he'd overcome the odds and pull it out.

[Sephiroth]

You'd be able to lower his attributes, but he'd overcome the odds and pull it out.


:lol:

[Disturbed316]

Find it strange they gave away the HIAC match for free, especially when its such a big file on a shit server. Wonder what, if anything, they will do for insiders?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I dunno, I bet they just did that because they haven't done shit to change HIAC.</font>

[Disturbed316]

Not suprised by that. Curently at 82% after what feels like two hours sitting here.

[Tazz Dan]

<TABLE class=tborder id=post1871306 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1871306>Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
92 for Punk. Everybody's very high rated. Cena's gonna be 98 or 99.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

No, Cena's rating will be 1 so he can OVERCOME THE ODDS!!!!!!1111
<!-- / message --></TD></TR><TR><TD class=alt2>http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif </TD><TD class=alt1 align=right><!-- controls --></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




You'd be able to lower his attributes, but he'd overcome the odds and pull it out.



:y:

[DAMN iNATOR]

Melina is a 71.

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Mudh9gbvORA"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Mudh9gbvORA" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

[DAMN iNATOR]

But seriously, with the addition of the Extreme Rules match, I would hope that this means we’ll see all the superstars and divas actually back to where you can do whatever the fuck you damn well please with the tables, instead of having like 95% of the roster do a generic table DDT maneuver, save for a Chokeslam From Hell or an F-U (of the very few finishers I can remember that worked on tables in ’07...and even those were preset animations through the table from the side of it, you couldn't even be standing on top of it with your opponent and use your finisher to put them through it.) I just hope THQ realizes what a huge misstep that was and has it rectified in this year’s (the 9th) iteration of the SmackDown!/SD!vs.RAW series.

Also, place your bets on tonight's Countdown superstar or, possibly diva.

My odds

Orton: 2-1
HHH: 3-1
Kennedy: 7-2
J. Hardy: 10-1
Sabu: 50-1

These are all speculations, so obviously, it could turn out I'm dead wrong. I just think it's a fun way to kill time to play the "guessing game".

[Extreme Angle]

I'm putting my money on Jeff Hardy, also the chances of sabu are 0/1 coz he's a legend and they are shown last

[DAMN iNATOR]

It’s a couple days old, but here’s a vid showcasing some of the Weapons and the new Hardcore actions you can do with them...if anyone's seen them before, I'm sorry, but there are those who haven't yet. :|

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nwO7XPOzoHw"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nwO7XPOzoHw" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It’s a couple days old, but here’s a vid showcasing some of the Weapons and the new Hardcore actions you can do with them...if anyone's seen them before, I'm sorry, but there are those who haven't yet. :|

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nwO7XPOzoHw"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nwO7XPOzoHw" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

Me likey.... lots.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Extreme Rules match looks awesome :cool:

anyway...I think its gonna be a lower card wrestler today...I'll guess either one of the Cryme Tyme guys</font>

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah. I know it's still early in the "info" department on the game, but if they can show off flaming tables, they could easily put an Inferno Match into the game. Just have the UCM system for when you or your opponent gets dragged over to the ropes and have like a struggle bar similar to the one in the Buried Alive match to have you and your opponent battle to either burn your opponent or escape the hellfire and brimstone, and based on the area of the body targeted (i.e.: hands), depending on the amount of damage taken by that body part in the game (None, Yellow, Orange, Red, Red & Bloody) it would be either very easy, moderately easy, moderately difficult or very difficult to stop yourself from being burned. This of course coupled with your momentum & fatigue levels, and it would work similarly for the person who was trying to burn you. If they were all bloody and beaten to a pulp whilst trying to burn you it most likely wouldn't work out.

Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there.

[KingofOldSchool]

I'm predicting Umanga.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm predicting Umanga.

Or possibly Calito, or John Seen’er?

[Xero]

Just like real life, Cena will probably be last. And just like real life, it will likely disappoint.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Just like real life, Cena will probably be last. And just like real life, it will likely disappoint.

Hell, no matter what the reviews say, even if the game gets a 9-10 range rating all over, you just know Cena's gonna make it job.

[Gerard]

It’s a couple days old, but here’s a vid showcasing some of the Weapons and the new Hardcore actions you can do with them...if anyone's seen them before, I'm sorry, but there are those who haven't yet. :|

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nwO7XPOzoHw"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nwO7XPOzoHw" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>


Hmph, the fire really looks like an afterthought that was bunged in late in development. When someone gets suplexed through a flaming table you'd expect a more painful reaction when they go through, right now its like the animation is the standard break through the table animation :-\

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820469/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070917015150061.jpg

Finishers - Sweet Chin Music 1, Sweet Chin Music Pin 2
Fighting Styles - Technical, Showman

STR 7
SUB 8
DUR 8
TEC 9.5
SPD 9
CHA 9.5
HRD 8
STA 9

PS3
Shawn Michaels Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820209/SHAWN01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Shawn Michaels vs MVP (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820209/SHAWN03_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Sweet Chin Music (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820209/SHAWN02_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>http://ps3.ign.com/articles/820/820578p3.html

YESSSSSSSSSS

Custom soundtracks for 360 while PS3 owners get to view first person versions of their entrances</font>

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

It began with a few seconds buried in a WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 trailer. In between talk of fighting styles and random clips, Sandman dropped a match on a folding table and the thing burst into flames.

THQ cut to some other action, but the image lingered in the minds of SmackDown fanboys worldwide -- did we just see what we think we saw? Was that for real? Would this be the year flaming tables finally get introduced into the premier professional wrestling game?

Yes. Yes it is, but THQ and Yuke's aren't stopping there. This year will also see the inclusion of flaming, barbed wire two-by-fours, more audience interaction than ever and barricade moves that'll make you think twice about what's possible on the black behemoth -- and it's all thanks to ECW.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820578/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070917051934139-000.jpg
OH MY GOD!

Say what you want about old school ECW -- it was more brawling than wrestling, the talent was never as good as other organizations, some other statement that shows you're a lame ass, etc. -- but after a morning of WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008's ECW Extreme Rules Matches, we can tell you everything that made the organization special has made it into this year's game.

As you're about to see below -- we've uploaded lots of video and images for you to peruse -- we went nuts and threw caution to the wind for this feature. Sure, we could've stuck with who has debuted on our daily Countdown, but Rey Mysterio and Batista in an ECW Extreme Rules Match just didn't sound right -- but the Innovator of Violence Tommy Dreamer and new blood Elijah Burke?

Now, this is extreme.

When the match type was announced, some of the more jaded among the SmackDown brethren rolled their eyes and wondered how this would be any different from a hardcore match. The answer is that this is the embodiment of what it must be like to wrestle in the ECW arena in Philly. Our Dreamer/Burke match started with the ECW icons in the ring and weaponless. There weren't any cheesy items sprawled out in or around the ring -- it looked just like a regular ECW bout.

Lucky for us, the match also plays like a normal ECW fight as well. There's no count out and no disqualification, but unlike a hardcore match, pinfalls and submissions can only take place in the ring. Just like in the old days when Paul couldn't afford a Titantron, you can't wander into the backstage labyrinth like you can in a traditional WWE hardcore match -- you have to keep the action in front of the live fans.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820578/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070917051926952-000.jpg
Eat your heart out, Double J.

Think that sounds weak? It isn't. In fact, the fan interaction is what makes this mode feel like it's torn from the glory days of the Dudleys, Mikey Whipwreck and Francine. As Tommy wailed on Elijah outside the ring and around the barricade, fans would present weapons to the ECW Legend who could either take the tool from the blood-thirsty fanboy and bludgeon Eljiah with it or -- using an environmental grapple -- have the fan hold the object out while Tommy hurled Elijah into it. Guitars, championship belts and even beverages make there way from the front row fans -- sadly, no one's decked out in a neon windbreaker or the long hair/shades combo -- and into the faces of the fallen.

At one point Tommy, while performing an Ultimate Control grapple, carried Elijah over to the barricade and we were prompted to press up on the right joystick. When we did, Tommy lifted Burke. When we pressed the stick down, Tommy let the heel go and Elijah's face met the barricade. Later, a fan held out a crutch, Tommy laid Elijah over the barricade and the right joystick commands popped up for us to decide how long we wanted to wait before we jerked the stick down and slammed the rehabilitation tool on Elijah's back. When Burke had been beaten on enough, Tommy rested against the barricade and celebrated with his fans.

For those who loved ECW enough to suffer through ECW: Hardcore Revolution and ECW: Anarchy Rulz!, your prayers have been answered.

But you didn't come here to read about all that jazz, did you? You want to know about the tables. Well, when a wrestler reaches underneath the ring in an ECW Extreme Rules Match, what he pulls out is no longer left up to chance. Instead, a pinwheel of weapon choices -- a mop, chair, guitar, etc. -- appears in the lower left corner of the screen and allows you to pick your implement of destruction. Even better? You won't be attacked while you decide. Anyway, let's say you pick the table, push it into the ring and set it up. The easy part's done. Now you need to go back to wailing on your opponent to get your special up. Once your momentum meter is flashing, you can walk to the table, hit your finisher button -- triangle on the PS3/PS2 and Y on the 360 -- and your wrestler will pull a match from his boot, strike it on the sole and let the wood go up in flames.

Awesome.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820578/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070917051937764-000.jpg
Feeling hot, hot, hot.

Once it's lit, the table won't go out until someone is thrown through it. Just like the barricade moves, getting your least favorite heel or face to feel the heat isn't that tough. You can scoop him up in an Ultimate Control grapple and toss him through the fire via your favorite suplex, fireman's carry or what have you. Of course, the cooler thing to do is to stack two tables, light the top one on fire and superplex your foe through the flaming monstrosity.

The act of setting up tables and pulling off moves might be too much for the lazy pyromaniac, THQ dropped in the flaming barbed wire two-by-four. For this nifty, double damage-inflicting object, you'll need to pull the unlit weapon from beneath the ring and unleash your special in a similar boot-match-woosh scenario. Now, you can wail on your opponent until the board breaks and the fire goes out.

A given character's Fighting Style -- powerhouse, technical, high-flyer, brawler, submission, dirty, showman and hardcore -- plays heavily into a match as well. Each character has two styles assigned to them, which can be changed to whatever you like in one of the create modes, but will only have one active in any given match. The style activated provides wrestlers with a number of advantages and specialties. For instance, in the ECW Extreme Rules Match, Tommy had his hardcore fighting style activated. When he was holding the guitar, he had access to a number of weapon grapples a showman or technical superstar wouldn't. When he slammed the instrument into Elijah's midsection and hauled off and nailed him in the face, he was performing a move specific to the hardcore personality. Same thing when Tommy tossed the chair to Elijah and punched it back into Burke's face.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820578/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070917051921983-000.jpg
And this one's for Tiny Tim.

High-flyers such as Rey and Carlito can perform quick, evasive rolls and a number of springboard attacks; technical superstars such as Shawn Michaels and Mickie James have a beefed up defense; and the list goes on with some of SmackDown's previous features now being tied into a specific style. Remember how anyone could steal someone's finisher in past games? That ability has been made exclusive to showmen. That might sound disappointing, but the benefits that come with the move are pretty impressive. Now, when a player is pulling off a stolen finisher, the action will freeze, the arena will darken, and as the camera spins around the move, flashbulbs will erupt.

It's not a move for the humble mat technician to crank out.

The ECW Extreme Rules Match isn't the only mode making waves on this year's game. For a ref to begin his ten count in a Last Man Standing match, you'll have to hit your finisher; although the official Title Match option is missing from the list of game modes, that's only because you can now defend a belt or challenge for a title with the click of the start button as you select your superstar; and in Ironman Matches -- of which there are only 10-, 15- and 20-minute lengths -- a wrestler who loses a fall will get all of his health back while the winner struggles on with the previous round's damage.

Still, are you ready for the big news? The PS3 and the Xbox 360 are getting exclusive features in their individual builds of the game. On the PlayStation 3, you'll be able to press R2 during your character's entrance and switch to a first-person mode. Taking advantage of the Sixaxis, you'll move your controller in whatever direction you want and the on-screen view will follow. You can toggle the view on and off with a click of R2, but don't you want to read all of the signs?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820578/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070917051933030-000.jpg
Freeze Frame.

As for the 360 -- drum roll, please -- WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 will allow you to take the music off your Xbox 360 hard drive and put it into the game. Want your own soundtrack? It's there. Want Undertaker to come out to Flock of Seagulls? Have at it. Want your created character to come out to your friend's Garage Band track? It's go time.

WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 is still close to two months from hitting store shelves, but the coverage blowout will continue on IGN with our daily Countdown, videos, screens, THQ Q&As and Friday Fights -- events where you choose who is fighting, the match type and the arena.

High Flyin' (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/highflyin_wmvlowwide.wmv)
With god as my witness (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/hic_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Stolen Finisher (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/STOLENFINISH_wmvlowwide.wmv)
PS3's First Person Mode (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/FPS_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Get The Weapons (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/ECW_RULES01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Flaming Table (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/ECW_RULES02_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Crippled with a Crutch (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/ECW_RULES03_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Flaming Barbwire 2x4 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/ECW_RULES04_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Two Flaming Tables (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/ECW_RULES05_wmvlowwide.wmv)
WHOOOOOOOOOOO (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820177/CHOPS_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Awesome stuff! I was just about to post it myself, but you guys got there first! Also a new animation for SCM too. I'm starting to get pumped for this game at last now!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Feel bad for people getting the game on Wii. Apparently they aren't even getting the Extreme Rules Match</font>

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Nice animation on the SCM, although I would have preferred the standing SCM to be a pin, since he usually falls into a pin after hitting it by surprise, but oh well.

360 owners got the better deal on the exclusives. I'd rather have a custom soundtrack than first person view in entrances (which would be cool easter egg feature, but little more.) Still not sure if I'm going to pick this up or not when it comes out (I'll be picking up the PS3 version if I do.) I'm concerned about CAW.... Also curious to see how many moves they pulled this year.

[The Fugitive]

Fuck it, I'm sold now, time to save up for a 360.

[PorkSoda]

Havent watched that Extreme Rules vid yet....

HOLY SHIT! DOUBLE FREAKIN TABLES ON FIRE! THE SHOVEL! PICK YOUR OWN WEAPONS! SANDMAN OH MY GOD!

Im not gonna watch any vidoes or read any news about this game until it ocmes out. When I first play it, I just have a feeling Im gonna get hooked on this one.

[Kalyx triaD]

Custom Soundtracks. Thank you.

[CSL]

HBK looks great. And the walk is spot on.

[KingofOldSchool]

Hopefully they'll announce DLC.

[Lux]

Well its offical, i'm going out and buying either a 360 or a PS3, i'm sold

[D Mac]

Well its offical, i'm going out and buying either a 360 or a PS3, i'm sold

Get a 360, we need to start a league with all the TPWW 360 owners when this comes out.

[D Mac]

As for the 360 -- drum roll, please -- WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 will allow you to take the music off your Xbox 360 hard drive and put it into the game. Want your own soundtrack? It's there. Want Undertaker to come out to Flock of Seagulls? Have at it. Want your created character to come out to your friend's Garage Band track? It's go time.

Might I say...



WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Kalyx triaD]

The Online League was something we wanted to do last year, the ideas I had for it is still functional. Though 2007's online mode was a bit bare bones in terms of a lobby system. It doesn't have to be as fleshed out as Halo's party mechanic (though that wouldn't hurt). But a simple pre/post-game lobby would be boss.

[Extreme Angle]

Custom Fuckin' Soundtracks.
Yeah online league, tried to get one together but it all went pear shaped

[D Mac]

Wonder if you'll be able to take your custom soundtracks online. Doubt it.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

I don't see why they won't considering they're on said persons hard drive.

[Xero]

I think Mac means having the other person listen to the music. That's extremely doubtful. But you will probably be able to hear it.

[Mister Sinister]

I'm so in, if we do said league, I mean every league needs an jobber, and more then likely I'll fit the role.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Sounds like a sweet idea. Could be cool to have some custom TPWW titles floating around

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Too bad I'm using the PS3 version, I'm getting both but my brother will hog the 360 version.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

<font color=goldenrod>Feel bad for people getting the game on Wii. Apparently they aren't even getting the Extreme Rules Match</font>

It probably can't handle all the shit going on.

I feel more bad for PS3 owners. Their machine can hold MP3s and play them, they're getting screwed on custom music....

[Sephiroth]

It probably can't handle all the shit going on.

I feel more bad for PS3 owners. Their machine can hold MP3s and play them, they're getting screwed on custom music....

Meh, i'll probably buy the 360 version first and i'll hook up with the PS3 version when some more friends get it.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Yeah it seems like a pretty shitty deal. I mean, custom music won't get old, because the possibilities are endless, from creating CAWs to updating current superstars.

But with the FP view, you do it once, and after that whats the point? Its going to be the same thing.

[Lux]

Get a 360, we need to start a league with all the TPWW 360 owners when this comes out.
360 it is then, also i noticed that during HBK's entrance i was caught up in the sweet graphics, i mean the llighting in the ring, above it and on the RAW stage, pretty kick ass :D

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

And no gay HBK entrance gear this year. Bonus!

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/820/820748/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070918010803872.jpg

Finishers - Frog Splash Pin 2, Gory Bomb 1
Fighting Styles - Technical, High Flyer

STR 7
SUB 8
DUR 7.5
TEC 8.5
SPD 8
CHA 7
HRD 7.5
STA 8

PS3
Chavo Guerrero Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820691/CHAVO01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
You Screwed Up! (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820691/CHAVO02_wmvlowwide.wmv)
High-Flying (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820691/CHAVO03_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Gory Bomb (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/820/820691/CHAVO04_wmvlowwide.wmv)

edit - 1k post.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Hands On with the Wii

For us, WrestleMania 23 wasn't just about seeing John Cena smoke Shawn Michaels in the main event, or watching as Austin 3:16 preached a sermon on whup-ass all over Detroit. Sure, we had fun doing it, but the real purpose of the "business" trip was to check out SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 for Nintendo Wii for the very first time. In its extremely preliminary state, SvR was already showing some serous promise, as dev members took to the squared circle and delivered an entertaining demo between Triple H and Cena, complete with plenty of "suck it" and "you can't see me" moments. It was early, but the game definitely had potential.

Now months later, we have a chance to go hands-on with the game in its nearly-complete state. Sure, there are still some bugs in there, still a few oddities that occur when jumping through the interface or trying to use the non-existent pause menu, but all in all SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 for Wii is a fully-realized game at this point. So the real question now is, what's changed over the months, and how does it play?

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/820/820860/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070918052535953.jpg
The champ is here!

For starters the game has adapted a bit more realistic - though still intuitive - control layout. It was great to see the original game run with no HUD and what seemed to be total motion control with no button usage whatsoever, but as soon as we dropped the megaton question on the developers (it went something like "So, how do you kick?") it became apparent that an in-depth wresting game can't be made purely on 1:1, two-handed motion tracking; at least not as a first-generation title.

Instead WWE takes a more practical approach to control. Players can move about the ring with the analog stick, swing the Wii-mote in different directions to deliver combo attacks (each vertical/horizontal motion has a different attack), hold A and move the Wii-mote to attempt a light grapple, or hold the B trigger and perform a heavy grapple in the same way. In addition SvR automatically determines if you're trying to attack an enemy from across the ring, and will automatically go into a running strike, running grab, or extremely powerful running strong grab by means of the same button/motion combination.

We can already hear what you're thinking, and we were thinking the same thing too. "Wait… wrestling games are far more complex than that. Where's the rest of my controls?" To be honest, some of the core wresting moves have been removed, while others have actually been made far easier. The Wii version of SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 is - and will release as - a more arcade-like game of wresting. You won't find the ability to flip over a downed opponent onto his back or stomach, and from what we can tell there's no way to simply grab your enemy and then reorient yourself into a forward/back grapple, nor is there a ton of intricate moves like apron-based attacks or even general running. It's something every hardcore wrestling fan will need to get used to.

Instead, however, there's a ton of context-sensitive actions, which end up making the game more mainstream, far faster, and - as mentioned - more arcade-like overall. We dig it so far, it's simply a different feel. Things like taunts are now done by holding C and then doing appropriate motions. If you're Cena, you'll need to move the Wii-mote back and forth vertically in a "You can't see me" Fashion. Likewise things like rope attacks or turnbuckle attacks are all based on holding against the ropes and moving the Wii-mote in any direction. This makes fights extremely fluid, since you can walk to the rope, wave the Wii-mote, and instantly do a springboard lionsault, but what it doesn't do is open the game up for a ton of depth when doing it. In classic WWE games you could either do a splash attack in that manor, or go into a pin by holding different buttons. On Wii it's easier to pull off, but will result in the same attack each time.

On the flipside, however, this method of control was an asset more often than a hindrance. When waling up to a weapon we thought to ourselves "Crap, what button picks this up?" when in reality simply walking to the foreign object launched our player into a pick-up animation. This made combat far easier when back in the ring, as you can nail an opponent with a chair, drop it (Z trigger), pull off a snapmare or two to screw with him, pick up the chair again, and nail him when he gets up. Fast, easy, entertaining.

Along those same lines weapons are context-sensitive when using them in grabs as well. If an opponent is on the ground and you go into a grapple while holding the weapon it'll automatically be a weapon-based attack. When using a weapon as a finisher, simply pull off that finisher when holding it; done and done. So in the end THQ has managed to sacrifice a slight amount of depth that only the most hardcore wrestling fan will miss - and most-likely buy the 360/PS3 version for - while enabling the other 99% of gamers the ability to quickly pick up the game and pull off some pretty incredible actions in no time at all.

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/820/820860/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070918052535641.jpg
Don't worry... it's already over.

As another update from our last hands-on with the game, THQ has implemented what looks to be the final on-screen prompt system for the Wii version. When pulling off grabs you'll need to do the move from beginning it end, and while it isn't as extravagant as literally throwing your friends around the room or jumping into the air to pull off a leg drop it's still pretty intuitive, and the motion detection works great. Since you'll need to pull off tons of step-by-step actions the game has an on-screen motion indicator setup very similar to a d-pad icon, telling you which motions are available, and when you've succeeded in doing them. To pull off a powerbomb, for example, you'll grab the player with "B + Up Motion" to initial the move, then flick the Wii-mote up to lift him, and then flick down with the Wii-mote to slam them down. In this situation you'd get two lit directions; the up for the lift, and the down for the slam.

Go a bit deeper, however, and you'll see exactly how precise this system is. When looking at the Cena's "Five-Knuckle Shuffle," for example, there are not only a bunch of motions to do, but also options. Initiate the special move by holding A and B and implementing any Wii-mote motion while your opponent is on the ground and you'll launch the attack. From there you'll have two options; either move left with the Wii-mote to start your "You can't see me" over the player's downed body, or move up with the remote to skip that part and immediately start running from rope to rope. This would come in handy if A) you want to taunt the hell out of an opponent and have all the time in the world, or B) you're in an Iron Man match and need to pull the move off as fast as possible. Once you run the ropes and then are again standing in front of your downed rival you can again decide to either "brush your shoulders off" a few times, or go straight to the hit. It may seem complex, but once you're thrown into the mix it's fast and intuitive.

You'll also use a combination of both analog stick movements and waggle motion during holds or when downed. When in a hold you can tweak your arms or try to power out (if on the defensive) by moving the stick in the specified way, using rotation to spin out or a back and forth motion to struggle your way out. When downed or attempting to get out of a hold you'll again need to use waggle to struggle away, though we'd like to see more specific prompting of this move to discourage constant shaking; which can feel like button mashing.

As for SmackDown! vs. Raw's presentation, it's a bit of a mixed bag, but pretty strong overall. Character models look pretty detailed, including some fluid animations and decent texturing, though the crowd and arena detail look to be about on part with the PS2 versions, adding very little to get away from the low res look. There's still some clipping and odd transitional animations happening in the current build, but we'll have to see how the game shapes up in its final form, as graphical glitches are par for the course when dealing with pre-release builds. As for the commentary, all the expected announcers are there - including Tazz, Michael Cole, JR, Jerry "The King" Lawler, and others - and each host a few different character-specific comments, though there isn't a ton of move-to-move commentary on exactly what's happening in the ring. It's a bit basic, but again we'll see how the final product wraps up.

The latest build also makes use of Mii integration for some interface screens and heath indicators when in-game, as well as some basic IR for menu interaction. All the expected modes are there, including things like singe competition, tag team, hardcore, K.O., triple threat, and tournaments including King of the Ring, and Beat the Clock Sprint, though there's no online support included this year. In addition there's also "Create a Move Set" and "Create a WWE Superstar" modes, which we'll be checking out soon as well. Overall Wii's version of SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 is shaping up quite nicely, but we're holding off our final say on the game until we see the final version in action. For more on the game check out our image and video gallery below.

Videos are here, only Insiders can dl them (http://media.wii.ign.com/media/882/882475/vids_1.html)

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/821/821149/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070919032015682.jpg

Finishers - Figure-4 Neck Lock, Full Nelson Face Buster(her Suger Rush)
Fighting Styles - Showman, Brawler

STR 4.5
SUB 5.5
DUR 5.5
TEC 6.5
SPD 7
CHA 7.5
HRD 4.5
STA 7

PS3
Candice Michelle Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821060/CANDICE0e_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Boom Through The Table (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821060/CANDICE01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
She Ain't Pretty No More (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821060/CANDICE02_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Figure-4 Neck Lock (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821060/CANDICE00_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[KingofOldSchool]

For a minute there I thought Candice had a lower OVR than Kelly.

I would've ROFL if it was true.

[KingofOldSchool]

So I guess if you preorder the game at Best Buy, you get a demo of the game.

Characters - Taker, Orton, Rey, Lashley
Arenas - RAW, SD, ECW
Matches - Hardcore or Regular Singles

So far...I'm not liking it. Storing finishers doesnt seem to work. Can't seem to do any of the new "crowd interactions" so that may only be in "Extreme Rules" matches. Rey was able to lift Taker up and carry him around in a fireman's carry. I'll film a short match for you and then I'm going to bed cause I gotta get up early for work in the morning.

[D Mac]

Surely they'll have another demo to download on XBL Marketplace like last year.

[Tommy Gunn]

I'll be sticking to old faithful PS2 for this release until I get one of the new consoles.

Custom music sounds great, but to be honest after a while I usually turn off entrances to get right to the action, so I won't miss it much.

[Evil Vito]

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AaxBsn847yI"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AaxBsn847yI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I think that and the GTS will be my CAW's finisher...along with everyone else's</font>

[Kalyx triaD]

Sweet Jesus almighty.

[KingofOldSchool]

Some guy said he was able to counter Rey's West Coast Pop with the Last Ride while play as Taker.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Some guy said he was able to counter Rey's West Coast Pop with the Last Ride while play as Taker.

He probably said it because he meant powerbomb, but the 2 look so similar that the poor sap couldn't tell the diff. ...

[Disturbed316]

Holy shit, Super RKO got AWESOME.

I hope they have the TKO in this year, they always seem to leave it out. If they have again I think I'm going with the two RKO's this year.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

damn, that Super RKO is awesome.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/821/821337/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070919113208838.jpg

Finishers - Neckbreaker 15, Over Castle
Fighting Styles - Technical, Showman

STR 7
SUB 7
DUR 7.5
TEC 8
SPD 8
CHA 9
HRD 7.5
STA 8

PS3
JTG Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821310/JTG01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Beatdown (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821310/JTG02_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Neckbreaker (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821310/JTG03_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>JTG :cool: So glad Cryme Tyme made it.

Lilian sounds like a tard though</font>

[D Mac]

damn, that Super RKO is awesome.

[PorkSoda]

That Super(!) RKO is super indeed. I personally think that you should be able to counter a high flying move rather than it just be a turnbuckle move. You know what I mean? It looks to set up.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

And I think half the people on this thread have chosen a CAW finisher.....me included....

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Me too, except mine will be the same as every year since it was included: Tower Hacker Bomb and Pedigree.

[Kane Knight]

Man. Wii gets shafted.

Glad I have a 360.

[Kalyx triaD]

I know finishers for all 20 of my CAW's I've created and revamped for the last 8-9 years in whatever WWE game that could allow it. They're my children.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/821/821360/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070920004110930.jpg

Finishers - World's Strongest Slam 2(NEW(but was in SvR 2007 as a hack-in move)), SS Bearhug
Fighting Styles - Brawler, Powerhouse

STR 9.5
SUB 8.5
DUR 9.5
TEC 7
SPD 5
CHA 6.5
HRD 7
STA 6

PS3
Mark Henry Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821328/MARKH01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Worlds Strongest Slam (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/821/821328/MARKH02_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Kane Knight]

I know finishers for all 20 of my CAW's I've created and revamped for the last 8-9 years in whatever WWE game that could allow it. They're my children.

Some of mine have been removed in the past, so I keep having to replace them. It's fucking annoying.

But otherwise, I'm in the same boat. My two primary stables have similar finishers now compared to their first REAL incarnations on No Mercy. Other guys may simply get mixed up for effect.

I hope they bring back some of the long hairs this time. Gesus, my main CAW too such a hit in this last game, with hair, attire, AND movesets being radically altered by a lack of parts/moves. Motherfuckers.

[Kane Knight]

...Why is Henry an OVR 83? He's been a main eventer as much as his injury schedule permits, hasn't he?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Exactly KK. I'd expect 89/90 for Henry considering his status on the roster. It was like Khali last year though. I believe he was 83, and he debuted by squashing Taker. Fuck, I think Boogyman was higher than him

[ozzman6669]

What the fuck is that, no custom soundtrack on ps3????

[D Mac]

What the fuck is that, no custom soundtrack on ps3????

LOL the PS3 sucks hard. :lol:

[Sephiroth]

LOL the PS3 sucks hard. :lol:

Meh, you can say whatever you want, but i'm more satisfied with my PS3 then with my 360.

I had to bring 3 of my 360's back to the store because of the "ring of dead".

[KingofOldSchool]

Mark Henry's lower than JTG. :lol:

[Sephiroth]

Mark Henry's lower than JTG. :lol:

That's cause Mark Henry is shit.

[KingofOldSchool]

That's cause Mark Henry is shit.

But Mark Henry has been pushed better than JTG.

If it went by your logic, then Khali would be at like 70 and someone like HBK would've been 99.

[Sephiroth]

But Mark Henry has been pushed better than JTG.

If it went by your logic, then Khali would be at like 70 and someone like HBK would've been 99.

Well, knowing that Khali is major shit, he should be 70.

We haven't seen HBK in a while now, he should be around the 88.

JTG should have been around the 82 and Mark Henry should be around 65, imo.

Also, there is only space for one man with 99, that man is John Cena... :shifty:

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

The thing is, despite how we see them as workers, they should really be rated how the characters come across on TV. Like Khali is put across as this unstoppable monster, so he should be like 90. Same with Henry.

Its got nothing to do with anyones opinions, its their position on the card. But apparently not even THQ can get that right.

[KingofOldSchool]

Well, knowing that Khali is major shit, he should be 70.

We haven't seen HBK in a while now, he should be around the 88.

JTG should have been around the 82 and Mark Henry should be around 65, imo.

Also, there is only space for one man with 99, that man is John Cena... :shifty:

But the ratings aren't based on what the internet marks thing of them, it's based on their push.

So yeah.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

KoOS knows the score

[Impact!]

They probably figured something like, if it wasn't for his strength that's what he'd be rated. They then give him 10 strength and it evens out...






:shifty:

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol, just realized he has top durability. He gets blown up after 5 minutes

[Sephiroth]

But the ratings aren't based on what the internet marks thing of them, it's based on their push.

So yeah.

Yeah, making a game, where the fuckers are actually shit, wouldn't sell.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

So whats the official release date on this? I'm pretty anxious to get hold of it now

[Kane Knight]

Meh, you can say whatever you want, but i'm more satisfied with my PS3 then with my 360.

I had to bring 3 of my 360's back to the store because of the "ring of dead".

Oh Boo hoo hoo.

[Kane Knight]

But Mark Henry has been pushed better than JTG.

If it went by your logic, then Khali would be at like 70 and someone like HBK would've been 99.

Basically. CT is like midcard at best. Henry's supposed to be a fucking Main Eventer. If we scored people on their actual talent, Cena'd be mid-80s, the Silverback would be like mid-fifties, and Batista would be somewhere in between.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Basically. CT is like midcard at best. Henry's supposed to be a fucking Main Eventer. If we scored people on their actual talent, Cena'd be mid-80s, the Silverback would be like mid-fifties, and Batista would be somewhere in between.

Thank god there are people that understand it...

[Sephiroth]

Oh Boo hoo hoo.

Yeah, i didn't even had the chance to give it a proper funeral. :'(

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/822/822535/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070924014149414.jpg

Finishers - Samoan Spike, Umaga Hip Attack 2
Fighting Styles - Powerhouse, Brawler

STR 9
SUB 8
DUR 9
TEC 7.5
SPD 6
CHA 8
HRD 8.5
STA 8

PS3
Umaga Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/822/822528/UME001_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Beatdown (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/822/822528/UM01_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Umaga Hip Attack 2 (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/822/822528/UM0F_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Sephiroth]

^ Umaga is saying, i'm going to rape you.

And, suck on my nipple.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

I'm glad they got the scales right this year. I dunno, just with last years, Henry, Umaga and the like didn't seem in proportion to the other wrestlers. This year they seem to have more beef on them

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol, in the last replay of Umaga's finisher he leaves his hair behind....

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/822/822810/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070925112721749.jpg

Finishers - Dominator 2, Lashley Spear
Fighting Styles - Powerhouse, Brawler

STR 9
SUB 8.5
DUR 9
TEC 9
SPD 8.5
CHA 8
HRD 8
STA 8.5

Bobby Lashley Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/822/822862/BL0E_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Dominator (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/822/822862/BL0B_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Spear (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/822/822862/BL0F_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Gerard]

Weird, on the lashely spear video when he gets powered up it says "press L1 and L2 to store your fighting style" :wtf:

And heres me thinking it was a finisher.

Can't believe they still have him doing the dominator, im near sure that running powerslam was christened the dominator 6 months ago or more yet they havn't bothered changing it from the faarooq version. :roll:

[Kane Knight]

All the videos I've seen have said "Fighting style." Not finisher.

[Lux]

Notice it says 'Dominator 2' possible that you may change it due to that one number there, if theres a two theres gotta be a... there you go your getting it :roll:

[D Mac]

Ah I see Lashley's theme is updated.

[Kane Knight]

Notice it says 'Dominator 2' possible that you may change it due to that one number there, if theres a two theres gotta be a... there you go your getting it :roll:

Here's a fun game:


Pop in SVR07
Go into CAW mode.
Count the number of numerically named moves without #1 in their succession.
Get back to us.
As bonus fun, count the others with a number missing elsewhere in the sequence.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/823/823132/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070926021236049.jpg

Finishers - Hurracanrana 9(Heinekenranna), Swanton Bomb 3(Rolling Rock)
Fighting Styles - Hardcore, Brawler

STR 8
SUB 7.5
DUR 9
TEC 7
SPD 7
CHA 8
HRD 9.5
STA 7

Sandman Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823071/Sand0E_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Brawl (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823071/Sand0B_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Rolling Rock (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823071/Sand0F001_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Lux]

KK i have Halo 3, i'll get back to you on the SVR07 numbers thing though

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

4.0, since your playing Halo 3, kick my brothers ass in it, he just got an hour ago and been playing it eversince. He's Swanton Bomber.

[Lux]

DSD, your wish is my command, i'll be watching for him, i'm sure i'll find him though :p

[D Mac]

The Sandman will be entering with "Enter Sandman" in my game. :D

[Kalyx triaD]

"Man in the Box" for Dreamer as well.

[Kane Knight]

ECW themes all round.

Plus, Triple H will now enter to SK8R Boi.

Okay, I'm a bitch. I've made peace with that.

Oh, and Back to Taker with "Walk Idiot, Walk."

[KingofOldSchool]

John Cena "Pretty Fly for a White Guy"

[D Mac]

John Cena: The Real Slim Shady

[Kane Knight]

John Cena "Pretty Fly for a White Guy":rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[ozzman6669]

John Cena: Ice ice baby

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

My brother is giving Batista L.O.V.E.

[Kane Knight]

OMG. I finally get to use Type O Neg!

[PorkSoda]

Everyones talking about bands here. Is there custom music this year?

[Kane Knight]

Everyones talking about bands here. Is there custom music this year?

For the 360.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

OMG. I finally get to use Type O Neg!

I was thinking the very same thing

[D Mac]

Looks like this is the box art. From IGN, couldn't find one any bigger:

http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/object/882/882478/SDvsRAW08.X360.BX.CMYKboxart_160w.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>"The Wicker Man" by Iron Maiden shall be my theme</font> :cool:

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Mine is Iron Maiden - Fear Of The Dark slightly edited by me.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Sorry for the delay, my sister and her fiancé came over yesterday do get there crib/playpen for the baby there having and he needed my help to lift the crib.

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/823/823430/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070927024244760.jpg

Finishers - Facebuster 3(Nose Job), Springboard Back Elbow
Fighting Styles - Showman, Brawler

STR 4
SUB 4.5
DUR 5
TEC 6
SPD 6.5
CHA 8
HRD 4.5
STA 7

Torrie Wilson Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823392/TorrieE_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Nose Job (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823392/TorrieF001_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

The Insider only vid is up now.

[D Mac]

Don't think this has been posted yet:

<embed src='http://videomedia.ign.com/ev/ev.swf' flashvars='object_ID=844743&downloadURL=http://ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/821/821380/FridayFight02_flvlowwide.flv&allownetworking="all"' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='433' height='360' ></embed>

[Gerard]

Whatcha gonna do when we come for you...apparently referring to an army of midgets, oooh the terror.

/breaks out fly swatter

[Disturbed316]

What insider video? Cant see it.

[Ninti the Mad]

So.... you can take music off CD's and store in the harddrive??

I have never tried.

OR... is it soemthing to do with being connected to the PC and somehow transferring files?

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

What insider video? Cant see it.

HBK vs CM Punk(Insider) (http://insider.ign.com/videos/teasers/823/823575.html)

So.... you can take music off CD's and store in the harddrive??

I have never tried.

OR... is it soemthing to do with being connected to the PC and somehow transferring files?

Just put a music cd in, go to the music section and rip the cd to the harddrive, it's a little hard for me to explain in full detail other than that.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/823/823593/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070928105044153.jpg

Finishers - Brain Chop, Neck Hanging Chokeslam
Fighting Styles - Powerhouse, Brawler

STR 9.5
SUB 8
DUR 10
TEC 7
SPD 5
CHA 7
HRD 8
STA 6.5

The Great Khali Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823735/Khali0E_wmvlowwide.wmv)
The Great Khali vs Mark Henry (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823735/Khali0B_wmvlowwide.wmv)
Neck Hanging Chokeslam (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823735/Khali0F_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

THQ Q&A

WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008
The fans fired off their wrestling questions, and the publisher is ready to respond.

At IGN, we like to think we're pretty good to our readers. We give our honest opinions on games, we create dazzling video features, and we even answer e-mails.

Some of them.

See, for months we've been getting e-mails about SmackDown! vs. Raw 2008 -- I'm talking before the game was even announced. Before we had the game, it was impossible for us to answer them. Even now with several different builds of the game, there's no way to answer every Ashley attire and roster complaint that you crazed readers send in.

But we're not abandoning you. We're just turning you over to the folks behind the game -- namely THQ Senior Creative Manager Cory Ledesma. Here's how it works: Superfans report to the IGN SmackDown Message Board, they post their questions in our official thread, and THQ responds to the ones we submit.

Can you dig it, sucka?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/823/823782/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2007-20070928043948812.jpg
Wondering what Cory looks like? When you get your current-gen copy of SVR, look to the crowd.

About This Roster …

The roster this year has down-sized considerably, what were the main factors affecting this? Will the roster expand through downloadable superstars?

-- Backcracker_uk

This is a good question and one I'm sure our fans are very curious about. There are many factors that affect the roster size. Our development cycle is approximately 16 months long, so it takes a very long to develop the great game our fans love to play. During this development cycle we need to decide the roster very early so that we can begin to model, animate and record the Superstars for the game. Since the roster is decided rather early, situations happen in the WWE that change the landscape of our roster. Superstars come and go, characters change, etc. Although we planned for a bigger roster this year, there were some unfortunate events that change our overall roster total. Keeping up with the departure and arrival of new Superstars is one of our biggest challenges. Adding Superstars to the roster during our development cycle has proved very challenging, but a challenge we are definitely looking to solve in the very near future. We promise!

Another factor to consider is the time it takes to create the Superstar models. Each model takes 5-6 weeks to create from scratch. A lot of comparisons have been made between past games and the size of their rosters to current games. Creating models on the PS and PS2 platforms take far less time to create then the 'next-gen' platforms, which gave us a little more flexibility in adding more characters and updating the roster. Also developing and creating characters for all the different platforms is a whole new challenge in itself!

We will continue to improve and grow with the times and continue striving to give you the roster that you hope for. As I'm sure you know, it's impossible to please everyone. All and all, having over 50 playable characters in a fighting game is quite impressive and we will continue to push that limit. We also try to find a healthy balance between quality and quantity so that we don't short-change our fans with poor looking models or animations. Also, don't forget that we've improved our Create-A-Superstar mode so that fans can create the Superstars and Legends that they most want to see.

FYI on GM Mode

How will General Manager mode be implemented in wwe 24/7. Plus will you be able to do everything in last years gm mode such as sign superstars and setup rivalries and matches. Also what new features can we expect from this years general manager mode?

-- Farhan_RKO

I can't answer your question right now, but we'll be announcing information on WWE 24/7 mode very shortly. When we do, hopefully all (or at the very least most) of your questions will be answered.

Will Someone PLEASE Start the Fire

We've seen many match-types in the SmackDown series, we now have over one hundred. A match that I personally have been waiting for since WWF Attitude in 1998 is the Inferno Match. How long do you think it will take to introduce this match type, and why haven't we seen it in the series so far?

-- Subzero1233

That is indeed a very good match type and one that we would like to implement in the future. We take a look at a lot of different match types that we feel would be exciting to add. I hear a lot of requests for the I Quit Match, Ambulance Match and Bull-Rope Match. What's so exciting about the WWE is that there are so many matches and they continue to add new ones each year. Our creative team has a lot of thinking to do about what we think would be the most fun match type to add in the future. As you can tell from our track record, we usually add one or two new match types a year. The key is to add a match type that is current in WWE programming as well as fun to play. I think we have some good ideas in store for future titles!

XTREME!

has the swanton bomb been re-animated

-- Xtreme_rko

Yes, the Swanton Bomb has been re-animated. The impact of the finisher looks great too! We've updated a lot of moves and we will continue to do so each year. There is no doubt that you guys will be able to notice a big difference this year in all of our new navigational and move animations. We've made some big changes!

Demo Calling

Will there be a demo for the 360 this year too?

-- Moose205

Absolutely there's a demo! Keep an eye out for it in the next couple of weeks.

How Does It Work?

What is the process that you have to go through in order to decide which superstars make it into the game?

-- Jeff_Hardy_Rulez

THQ and the WWE work together to decide the roster each year. We take a look at who are the most popular Superstars at the time, try to divide up a pretty equal amount of Superstars per show, factor in Superstars who have never been in the series before and then also think about who would make great 'game' characters. We then propose a roster to WWE that we feel comfortable and confident about creating. The WWE then offers suggestions on the roster and we work together to nail down a final list. The WWE, of course, has final say on everything!

Greg Miller messed up, he put this on the SvR 2007 ps3 page

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Answers are in bold.

[D Mac]

Looks like this is the box art. From IGN, couldn't find one any bigger:

http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/object/882/882478/SDvsRAW08.X360.BX.CMYKboxart_160w.jpg

So what are your thoughts on the cover? I think it could have been better.

[Tommy Gunn]

I understand Cena being on the cover, he's the WWE's golden boy, but Taker Wrestles 2 matches a month and is always injured and Bobby Lashley is the best candidate for most undeserved push of all time.

It's okay though, I never look at the Box after buying it, as the game rarely leaves my PS2.

[KingofOldSchool]

That was a bullshit cop out answer in regards to the roster.

[Xero]

So what are your thoughts on the cover? I think it could have been better.
Lashley shouldn't even be there since he's supposed to represent ECW and he's on RAW now.

[Kane Knight]

That was a bullshit cop out answer in regards to the roster.Yeah, it's so lame it's not even funny.

[Gerard]

Wasn't there a demo for 2k7 on live around or before this time last year?

Edit: balls just noticed he saId in the next couple of weeks..which likely means months.

Love how he totally ignored the part in the roster question about the possibility of dloadable characters. =/

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah, it's so lame it's not even funny.

It's like they were trying to blame the Benoit situation for the lack of roster depth. Ya know cause one person can make the roster a lot smaller than it should.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Edit: balls just noticed he saId in the next couple of weeks..which likely means months.

Well its due out in about 2 months, so I'd expect the demo before the end of Oct.

[Xero]

I've been hearing the demo's already out if you pre-order from Gamestop.

[Kane Knight]

It's like they were trying to blame the Benoit situation for the lack of roster depth. Ya know cause one person can make the roster a lot smaller than it should.

I don't think that's what they intended, but it sure does seem like it comes off that way.

I can't think of many people who have left the company who would have been an issue, especially since Crime Tyme are still in, and I can't think of many additions to the roster that significantly hurt for their absence.

Also, I don't buy this whole "It's harder to do for the next gen." I mean, besides the fact that the step up from last gen to current didn't take a significant hit, the last game was made for the 360, as well. I mean, come on, let's stop pretending, especially until they come up with something that's truly next gen....

Somehow, other gaming companies manage to take last gen's games and make them all sexy and snazzy.

[Mister Sinister]

I've been hearing the demo's already out if you pre-order from Gamestop.

Not True, As I work at an gamestop and nothing has been mentioned, but then again, I may be mistaken

[Xero]

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=26794&p=1

"Steve Wright Jr. reporting. ... I just came from my local Gamestop and picked up a DEMO copy of WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2008 for the Xbox 360. You can go to your local Gamestop to get a copy."

[Kane Knight]

Yeah, some shmuck sent it in.

I don't think it's true, though.

[Disturbed316]

Aparently alot of people have it, and a couple of videos have popped up on the net from the demo.

[Gerard]

Aparently alot of people have it, and a couple of videos have popped up on the net from the demo.


Got a link? What characters in the demo?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-WWE-SmackDown-vs-Raw-2008-Xbox-360-Demo-Disc_W0QQitemZ250170750390QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

If anyone is that desperate to have it.

[Gerard]

gamingring have some youtube vids up

http://www.youtube.com/user/GamingRingCom

[Mister Sinister]

They better have the demo when I go in to work, or I'm going to rip the entire used PS2 games section off the wall and leave.

[Kane Knight]

Got a link? What characters in the demo?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Apparently Lashley, Undertaker, Orton and Mysterio are playable in the demo.

[Disturbed316]

With single player and hardcore match being the game modes.

[Maluco]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/section/0,,2001310001,00.html

For UK gamers, go to the link above and click on the top link, fill in your info to get a free demo sent out...

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Awesome stuff. I've sent for mine, but it'll probably arrive after it goes on XBL or something.

[Gerard]

I don't understand why if theres a demo doing he rounds its not hit live yet. :wtf: Surely it would cost them more to make discs and cases\covers etc rather than just to put a dlaodable version up on live. :wtf:

Must be some kinda bullshit promotion theyre profiting from somehow or other.

[Mister Sinister]

well, went in, got my demo, still ripped the ps2 shelve off the wall anyways.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

THQ's press release

THQ ANNOUNCES PLAYABLE DEMO AVAILABILITY AND PRE-ORDER RETAIL INCENTIVES FOR WWE(r) SMACKDOWN(r) VS. RAW(r) 2008

WHAT: Beginning today, consumers who pre-order WWE(r) SmackDown(r) vs. Raw(r) 2008 at select retailers throughout North America will receive a copy of the official game demo. By pre-ordering the game, consumers can also take advantage of retail exclusive gift-with-purchase promotions. The game demo will also be available via Xbox Live(r) Marketplace for the Xbox 360(tm) video game and entertainment system from Microsoft beginning October 15.

THE DEMO: The WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 playable demo for Xbox Live Marketplace will allow players to experience exhibition match play using the RAW, SmackDown and ECW arenas. Superstars Rey Mysterio, Bobby Lashley, Undertaker and Randy Orton are available for battle in either single player or two-player, head-to-head gameplay. Throughout the demo, players can sample several of the game's new features, including Superstar Fighting Styles and the Struggle Submission System.

THE GAME: WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 for the Xbox 360, PLAYSTATION 3, PlayStation 2 and PSP system will let players take the fight into their own hands with the debut of eight Superstar Fighting Styles. Each fighting style has its own unique strategy with exclusive moves and abilities. A brand new Struggle Submission System gives players intuitive and natural control over their WWE Superstars using the analog sticks. Realism and strategy are at the forefront, as players can now control the amount of pressure they apply. WWE 24/7 Mode, which combines the popular Season and General Manager modes, embraces the intensity of the Superstar lifestyle. Multiple character development options, stat tracking and career goals will guide players toward the ultimate achievement of becoming a WWE Legend. In addition, WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 includes numerous fan-requested updates, including new rosters, more environmental hotspots, improved out-of-ring action and much more.

WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 for the Wii features unique controls and gameplay created specifically for the platform, resulting in quick response times and a more arcade feel. Ultimate control is taken to the next level, as players can act out slam, strikes, taunts and finishers as they take place on screen.

WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 for the Nintendo DS lets players directly control a Superstar's action with the stylus, while situation-based fighting includes over 80 unique holds for a variety of strategic options. Players can also experience a full year of WWE action, storylines and drama in WWE Season Mode.

credit - Gamingring.com

[KingofOldSchool]

John Cena is up.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/823/823953/wwe-smackdown-vs-raw-2008-20070930102752868.jpg

Finishers - F-U 3, SS STF-U
Fighting Styles - Brawler, Showman

STR 9
SUB 9
DUR 9
TEC 9
SPD 8.5
CHA 9.5
HRD 8.5
STA 8.5

John Cena Entrance (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823936/cena0E_wmvlowwide.wmv)
F-U (http://streamingmovies.ign.com/ps3/article/823/823936/cena0F_wmvlowwide.wmv)

[RottingFreak]

Super Cena. Does he fly to the ring this time around?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

lol, Cena is 97. Wasn't Angle the highest last year with 95?!

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Yeah he was. Cena's rated too high.

[D Mac]

I bet the demo will be a HUGE download. Over 1 gig.

[D Mac]

Cena's Technical rating should be a 4 at the most.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

Cena's overall rating should be a 4 at the most.

[Disturbed316]

Hmmm a new FU.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

The original was fine, I didn't care much for last years version. This year, I don't care much for Cena. The FU is better though