UFC 69 Shootout

[McLegend]

From The Meltz

UFC line-up with weights
Prelims
Josh Haynes (171) vs. Luke Cummo (170)
Marcus Davis (169 1/2) vs. Pete Spratt (170 1/2)
Pete Sell (186) vs. Thales Leitis (186)
Brad Imes (260 1/2) vs. Heath Herring (245, weighed in fully clothed wearing cowboy boots)
Leonard Garcia (155 1/2) vs. Roger Huerta (155)

Live show
Alan Belcher (184) vs. Kendall Grove (185 1/2)
Yushin Okami (184) vs. Mike Swick (184)
Josh Koscheck (170 1/2) vs. Diego Sanchez (168 1/2)
Georges St. Pierre (169 1/2) vs. Matt Serra (169 1/2) for the welterweight title

There hasn't been that much hype about this show since everyone thinks GSP will just roll over Matt Sera which will most likely happen. I'm gonna say it right now though...I think it will be an entertaing, and Matt Sera will put up a good fight. He's not gonna win though.

Now though Koscheck/Diego thats going to be fun to watch, and they straight up don't like each other.

I'm going with Koscheck on this. His wrestling is too good, but I think this fight will be exciting since Diego doesn't have boring fights.

[McLegend]

OMG OMG

I am in shock. I can't believe this happend.

GSP lost GSP LOST...WOW

I like Matt Serra and think he is a very good fighter, but there was no way I thought he had a chance. Like it's GSP one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world.

HOLY SHIT

Coming into tonight I beleived that GSP was the best at 170 in the world by far. I believed that Matt Hughes was his bitch, and that no one would beat him for years.

I don't know what to believe in anymore.

[Innovator]

Serra was throwing bombs out there, shocked in a good way that he won

[The Naitch]

holy shit

[Shaggy]

They were having it here but I wasnt able to go...instead spent the time at Buffalo Wild Wings with some friends watching it...

Not really a great show...

Huerta Vs Garcia would of stolen the show....if it wasnt for the huge upset at the end.

Still...Huerta Vs Garcia was best fight of the night

Koschek and Sanchez was horrible...worst match ive ever seen

[McLegend]

And the main event was just covered on Sports Center.

First time ever.

[McLegend]

This has to be the biggest upset ever. Even bigger then Randy/Tim

[McLegend]

Also though I do like Matt Serra, and I think he's real good fighter and real nice guy and I'm glad he won.

Still I don't think I can sleep tonight.

[Reavant]

i was in shock too..... and all of sanchez's fights are awful

[McLegend]

No they aren't.

His fights with Nick Diaz and Karo Parysian were great. This is really the first boring fight hes had,

[The Naitch]

how long you gotta wear that Lidell avatar? (you lost a bet, right?)

[Apocolyptik1]

I thought it was a decent ppv. It had the makings to be a great PPV, but some of the matches didnt go like I thought they would.

What exactly is the "Huge" upset at the end of the fight you are referring to Shaggy? Huerta won all three rounds. Not sure what upset you could be referring to.

Gsp and Serra had me on my feet yelling at the screen. Still stunned at the outcome. I didnt think he would win, but I gave him better odds then most people did. Serra is a veteran. Yea his win against Lytle wasnt impressive, but even Hughes had a bad fight against Lytle. So maybe it wasnt that it was a bad fight, but that Lytle is a better fighter then what people give him credit for. Serra is a veteran, you cant count veterans out until you have them on the floor seeing stars.

As far as Diego and Kos go, it could of been better, but you cant blame the bad fight on Kos, it was totally Diego's fault. He took that first straight right and didnt want anymore of Kos. He didnt come forward like he usually does, and I think thats because he knew he couldnt win the standup war. I expected him to shoot more then he did, but I think he felt he had something to prove on his feet because of all that trash talk between the too. Bad call on Diego's part. Kos looked impressive on his feet though. Lots of movement, was definetly changing things up with Head/Leg kicks. He threw probably 10 head kicks the entire fight, and before this I dont remember him even throwing one in any other fight. It shows how much he has improved. I wanted him to win, so it was cool he did. I dislike Diego for a myriad of reasons, too many to even list currently.

*Edit, my boy Cummo won his fight by knockout so that was the shit too. With this win he will get invited back, and maybe could win a few more. Ever since his knee knockout to Sammy Morgan in season 2 I have been a fan of his. On top of going to the final round with Stevenson in season 2, even after he was the last picked guy on the show, and no one thought he would make it out of his first fight. I think he is highly underrated because of his fights with guys like Jonathen Goulet. He looks like he is improving a lot though, so hopefully he continues to rise.

[Stickman]

I ca'nt believe GSP lost. Speachless. Maybe he needs to find a better camp to train with.

[Apocolyptik1]

I ca'nt believe GSP lost. Speachless. Maybe he needs to find a better camp to train with.

Well to be honest, most fighters dont just train in one camp. He probably bounced all over the place, and I heard he brought in Renzo Gracie (serra's jiu-jitsu belt came from this guy) into his camp just to train with him. If your camp has enough money, it brings people to you. Otherwise, you do like most fighters do, and hop around, gathering experience from everyone.

If I was a pro fighter, thats what I would do. I would go to different camps for different things. Team Punishment for cardio, because they have hands down the best cardio workout in big bear. Probably either Jackson's camp in New Mexico or even ATA in San Jose for my stand up. Both camps have good stand up coaches. Maybe even Militech just to get any overall drill in all aspects. Serra's or Jorge Gurgel schools for jiu-jitsu. Just some things that came to mind.

[Stickman]

I take it you didn't see UFC All Access with GSP?

[Rob]

This has to be the biggest upset ever. Even bigger then Randy/Tim

Don't know about ever but it's definately a bigger upset than Randy beating Tim since absolutely nobody was giving Serra a chance which was stupid really since his BJJ is in another league and his submissions are far better. I was shocked though but I'm glad it was a good dude like Serra who beat GSP and not some dick like Matt Hughes. GSP is still the man though. He'll be back and next time will be dominate.

[Apocolyptik1]

I take it you didn't see UFC All Access with GSP?

Nah I didnt, I work early on Fridays so I rarely stay up to watch it. I usually just watch what little UFC.com shows of it the next day. Did he say something particular about his training camp?

[Stickman]

He doesn't really have a camp. He has a boxing coach, a wrestling coach, a jj coach. Trains with national boxing teams and whatnot. Not a MMA camp.

[McLegend]

how long you gotta wear that Lidell avatar? (you lost a bet, right?)
Yes I did, but I think I'm gonna keep it awhile I have gotten use to it.

And the Custom title I have to go along with my Avatar is hilarious so I'm not changing.

[Apocolyptik1]

He doesn't really have a camp. He has a boxing coach, a wrestling coach, a jj coach. Trains with national boxing teams and whatnot. Not a MMA camp.

Well...to be technical, he only really needs to cover Muay Thai along with that list, and you would have the basis of MMA. Tae kwon do of course, but you pick it up along the way training in a much better discipline...jj. To be fair, Rush has some pretty good Muay Thai, he trains with the Crow on a regular basis.

Some people make that kind of a camp work, look at the Gracie's for cryin out loud.

[Stickman]

Oh, and he wasn't training with Gracie because Serra was a student first so he got seniority.