Here's a crazy idea...

[D Mac]

Why not give Kane a World Title run?

[Dorkchop]

Why that's so crazy it might actually work...... So let's not do it.

[McLegend]

I got a better idea

How bout everyone Shut's the Fuck up about Kane.

Let's never put the word title anyone near his name again. Even if it is just a joke let's never do it again. Kane is terrible, horrible, and no one makes me want to turn my tv off more then him.

He was alright 6 years ago or whatever, but now he is off the gas, and sucks.

He's a joke

[D Mac]

So you're saying no? :shifty:

[McLegend]

That would be correct.

[McLegend]

How does anyone think a Kane title run would make sense? How in the blue hell would it be logical that a guy who has jobbed to every wrestler on the roster in the past 3 or so years to win a World title?

How does that make sense?

Kane is everyones bitch.

Someone explain to me why Kane is so good? Please I would love an explantion.

Just try and explain to me how Kane is any good. Show me or tell me about one moment where we all sat back in the past 4 years and said "Damn Kane can go. He's really good."

Where is that moment? Where?

In fact I'll save you all the trouble...It doesn't fucking exist.

[FourFifty]

If nothing else Kane should get a title run and a written appology for putting Snitsky over.

[FourFifty]

Just try and explain to me how Kane is any good. Show me or tell me about one moment where we all sat back in the past 4 years and said "Damn Kane can really go. He's fuckin great."


I'm a huge mark for Kane. There is something I've liked about that persona that I've loved since Day One. And I can give you a moment where I've said "He's fuckin' great!"
His angle with Edge, when he just looked at the camera, laughed, and said "I'm BAAAACK!" For the persona, Glen Jacobs cuts great promos, and I think what we're forgetting here is you don't need to be great in the ring to get a run for the title. Just look at Cena and Hogan. I don't need to say anything else.

[McLegend]

If nothing else Kane should get a title run and a written appology for putting Snitsky over.
No. Snitsky was hilarious then, and was the only time in his career he had any kind of momentum. He also has one of the best debuts ever btw.

I should get a written apolgoy for watching Kane, and then coming to TPWW and reading how great and underrated he is.

[Splaya]

How does anyone think a Kane title run would make sense? How in the blue hell would it be logical that a guy who has jobbed to every wrestler on the roster in the past 3 or so years to win a World title?

How does that make sense?

Kane is everyones bitch.

Someone explain to me why Kane is so good? Please I would love an explantion.

Just try and explain to me how Kane is any good. Show me or tell me about one moment where we all sat back in the past 4 years and said "Damn Kane can go. He's really good."

Where is that moment? Where?

In fact I'll save you all the trouble...It doesn't fucking exist.

Just wait, eventually Alienoid is gonna come in here and blast ur ass for these comments

[McLegend]

I'm a huge mark for Kane. There is something I've liked about that persona that I've loved since Day One. And I can give you a moment where I've said "He's fuckin' great!"
His angle with Edge, when he just looked at the camera, laughed, and said "I'm BAAAACK!" For the persona, Glen Jacobs cuts great promos, and I think what we're forgetting here is you don't need to be great in the ring to get a run for the title. Just look at Cena and Hogan. I don't need to say anything else.
OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS???

He cut's great promos? Everytime he cuts promos I laugh he is terrible on the mic... TERRRIBLE.

And Cena and Hogan at least have charisma, and I will lay everything on the table and say Hogan and Cena are better wrestlers then Kane.

And when he said he was back... It sucked too.

The only reason why you people like Kane is becasue you marked out for him when your younger when his pyro entrance was cool and he layed out the Undertaker. He's bring back childhood memories for people.

Well it's time you now realize he is no longer cool. He is no longer badass.

Kane is a joke in every sense of the word.

[Skippord]

now if only legend mattered

[McLegend]

Just wait, eventually Alienoid is gonna come in here and blast ur ass for these comments
I like Alienoid for the record, but I hope he does come in here blast me.

In fact I'm also guesing that Fallen Angel is going to come in here and defend Kane.

Just a guess.

[McLegend]

now if only legend mattered
Yeah that's gonna count against me big time.

[Skippord]

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^^^ Bigger joke

[Skippord]

keeping Nervous Ferret alive

[McLegend]

O I'm a huge joke no doubt it.

Much like the duo of Carmello Anthony and Allen Iverson.

[McLegend]

See there is nothing wrong with liking or marking out for Kane.

I understand wanting to be nostalgic and it's tough to let stuff like that go, but when we start saying the words title and Kane actully being good in the same sentence is when it gets a little bit too much.

So by all means cheer for Kane and jump up and down like girl for him, but let's just leave it at.

[Dave Youell]

I think he could run with a title, they'd need to build him up for a while to make him look like a threat again, but it could be done, turn him heel, give him direction and let him feud with Big Dave, it could work.

[Jeritron]

I know he can't really wrestle a match, but how about a Buried Alive Match on smackdown instead. It could be worked in such a way that it's not any more demanding than the cage match. Have Batista bury Taker's ass with the assistance of Kane. Explains Taker's absence in kayfabe without making him look weak. Kane does it in a bargain for a title shot in return. Takes Bats title down the road, has the belt on him for Taker's big return.

Sure it's thrown together, sure it's going to the well, but what the hell. Just a quick idea.

[Skippord]

O I'm a huge joke no doubt it.

Much like the duo of Carmello Anthony and Allen Iverson.
Beastly tandem

[hb2k]

Kane. Sucks. Face it.

[Theo Dious]

Glen Jacobs deserves at least three months with the title for everything he has put up with. I'm not saying because he's "paid his dues" or whatever, and if it weren't for this situation with Undertaker I might not even think this way. But the man has put up with the whole Snitsky "I killed your baby" crap, and Katie Vick before that, and Fake Diesel and Isaac Yankem before that. At this point I would give Batista the title on Tuesday, and then have Kane beat him at the next PPV. They feud back and forth for the rest of the year (switching the title back and forth at least twice, with a few other guys thrown in, including a Batista/Booker T feud around Survivor Series.) Kane is champion when Undertaker returns, and they begin a feud that culminates at WM24, where Kane retains and breaks his "brother's" streak.

[hb2k]

That's retarded.

Not only is the "well, he's been through a lot" a shit reason to give someone the belt, but having Kane end the Taker Streak is the dumbest thing ever.

[Theo Dious]

It's not only that he's been through a lot; he could be a strong champion if they let him. The "been through a lot" only comes into it when considering the potential strong champions on the roster; of all the guys you could put up there, he's the most deserving. Or would you rather see Mark Henry with the title, or Batista, or Kennedy WAY before his time?

[Theo Dious]

...time.

[Afterlife]

Although I disagree with suggested interpretation, Kane may, indeed, suck. But at least it'd be new.

[Jordan]

Batista could take the title from Taker at Smackdown, and then Kane takes it the next week! Fuck Batista!

[Stickman]

I completely agree with Legend. Although it would be fitting to have him take the Belt from Taker only to lose to Batista then go to TNA and feud with Abyss.

[.44 Magdalene]

I love Kane like a fat kid loves cake, but I think he's lost way too much credibility to pick up the belt now. His time's sort of come and gone... they'd have to do ridiculous amounts of build up and ridiculous amounts of booking around the boat to even come close to making him look ready for the title.

[hb2k]

Kane is an awful wrestler, his gimmick is lame and stale beyond belief, and to be honest, I would rather see Batista as heel champ or Kennedy rushed to the belt than have Kane stink up the fucking joint.

[Stickman]

I'd rather see Cena than Kane. Truthfully.

[Theo Dious]

I love Kane like a fat kid loves cake, but I think he's lost way too much credibility to pick up the belt now. His time's sort of come and gone... they'd have to do ridiculous amounts of build up and ridiculous amounts of booking around the boat to even come close to making him look ready for the title.

Yeah, just like they did with JBL.

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Wait a minute...

[Jordan]

I think that Benoit should move to the World Heavyweight Title picture and Kane have a really long reign (JBL long) as US Champion. Then eventually at a big PPV he could go against a heel WHC like Batista in a title v.s title match. I'd prefer someone other than Batista, but I don't think I can think of anyone else that would be more interesting. I think Batista and Kane have pretty good chemistry so it would work.

[Jordan]

And if nothing else a nice long US Title reign would solidify Kane as a force to be reckoned with once again.

[redoneja]

I can't take Kane as a serious threat anymore. To anyone.

[Kane Knight]

I can't take Kane as a serious threat anymore. To anyone.

Yeah, once he jobbed out to the BRooklyn Brawler....

[JT]

I like Kane, even to the point that the though of a Kane title run interests me...something that I haven't been with Smackdown in the longest time. I might even watch if he was to become champion. However, the man is currently taking time off so I doubt it were to happen (not that there was any better of a chance if he were an active wrestler).

Though what is this shit about Kane "sucking ass". I like Kane and so do many others...and it's not just because we liked watching him back in 1998. I liked Hogan and Big Show back in 98 too...not there biggest fans anymore. I liked Kane because Kane was always cool. He landed in WWE with a rarity of a gimmick that just works and it's development overtime (while flawed) has not shaken my feelings for him, and he's still one of my favorites.

I think Kane has good mic skills, good ring and camera psychology, and he's definately not one of the best wrestlers on the roster, but can do alot more than most of the men his size. Only turn offs with him have been bad storylines, but I don't think you could place all blame on him for that. Actually though those shitty gimmicks like Katie Vick and Lita's pregnancy, I could barely watch with exception of Kane's reaction to it all and how evil he could be with Lita.

And don't tell me or anyone else we are fooling ourselves into liking him. I still remember his feuds with Shane McMahon a few years back and the Kane vs. Kane feud before some WWE writers got bored with the idea and scrapped it. Kane is still a big name in WWE and one that stands in a positive light as opposed to quite a few others who could be main eventing right now. Hell, I wouldn't even have a problem if he came back and they just placed the belt around him...he's always been a horror movie monster of a villian...always get's his ass kicked by the hero, but comes back to terrorize and destory again.

[Skippord]

I agree with JayTeeCool on all points

a rep to you good sir

[Dorkchop]

And if nothing else a nice long US Title reign would solidify Kane as a force to be reckoned with once again.

Until he jobs it to MVP in three weeks

[AdrianM]

I know he can't really wrestle a match, but how about a Buried Alive Match on smackdown instead. It could be worked in such a way that it's not any more demanding than the cage match. Have Batista bury Taker's ass with the assistance of Kane. Explains Taker's absence in kayfabe without making him look weak. Kane does it in a bargain for a title shot in return. Takes Bats title down the road, has the belt on him for Taker's big return.

Sure it's thrown together, sure it's going to the well, but what the hell. Just a quick idea.

ok, do u seriously wanna see another kane - taker match?
I'd only wanna see it if they were both babyface and at the end, they shook hands or if kane would beat taker at wrestlemania.

other than that, i really don't wanna see kane and taker wrestle again

[AdrianM]

ideally, i want benoit with the title tho

[Mr. Nerfect]

JT Kool is right.

legend had respectful things to say about me, so I'm not going to tear into him too much, so hb2k will be my target. :p

Seriously, how can you say Kane sucks like it is fact. Shawn Michaels sucks, face it. Easy to say. Offer some fucking evidence. It's OK that you don't want to see him as World Champion. I don't want to see a lot of guys near the belt again (namely Triple "Lucky Cunt" H), but I wouldn't say they flat out suck.

Kane has put up with so much shit in his career. For a guy his size, he has a lot of fucking charisma. Kane is one of the few guys with the power to make me mark out. I still remember his match with Edge at Vengeance 2005 (I think that was it, I may be off). Everyone thought Edge was going to win. Then about half-way through the match I just knew Kane was going to pull it off.

Snitsky came out, leapt off the top rope with a double axe handle, Kane caught him by the throat, and made Snitsky piss himself. Edge then got the briefcase, and against anyone else, Edge would have taken the window of opportunity to use the briefcase and win, but not against Kane. The Big Red Machine had eyes on the back of his head, ducked the briefcase shot, and then took out Edge with a Chokeslam. It was like one piece on a chess field taking out everyone, including the king.

That I can remember that match from memory, yet I can't remember what John Cena did last week should say something about how compelling Kane is. You might not like him, but some do, and they have perfectly good reasons.

Kane is not terrible at promos. He's one of the better guys they have. His has great articulation, and a great a voice. His maniacal laugh should be heard more often. I remember when he was teaming up with Rob Van Dam, and RVD bought him a game of Hungry, Hungry Hippos, and Kane told us about his childhood torturing squirrels int he basement, with some big words thrown in for good measure. Great fun that promo was.

I don't think Kane should be necessarily given the belt tomorrow, but he can definitely be built up. He has great chemistry with Batista, and the two worked a match on SmackDown! prior to WrestleMania that was one of the best in Dave's career.

Kane's brawl with Regal & Taylor (the one that commenced their feud, I believe) was in all honesty (no hyperbole at all) one of the better ones I have seen in professional wrestling. I don't want to say the best, because people won't believe me, but it was fucking great. Kane was meant to be wrestling Dave Taylor, but Taylor retreated to the floor, where William Regal helped out his buddy. Real punches were thrown (Glen Jacobs is a big enough boy to take them, Mr. Regal probably figured), and it really looked like Regal and Taylor were desperate to take Kane down. Regal even got a steel chair and legitimately started thwacking Kane with until he knocked it out of the way and started putting some distance between the Blue Bloods.

During this little brawl, the crowd was actually caring. When Kane started to send Taylor and Regal running back up the apron, the crowd was right into the moment. It wasn't just "zOMG! babyface!" pops, either. The crowd knew that what they saw was as close to real as it could have been. Throughout the entire brawl, you could feel the crowd heating up. The fans care about him, and it's obviously for a reason.

A short little way to get Kane back on track:

Next week he teams up with The Boogeyman to take on William Regal & Dave Taylor. The Boogeyman is isolated for most of the match, but then he tags in Kane, and the heels take a flogging. A Chokeslam on William Regal ends it in favour of the faces. But then Kane Chokeslams Boogeyman. He also takes down Dave Taylor with his own Chokeslam, and then obliterates Little Boogeyman with a Chokeslam. Kane's pyros then go off, and it's onto a reign of terror by the monster.

I wouldn't turn him heel, but I'd just have him attack anyone and everyone who pisses him off. This match won't likely happen, because the booking is too complex, and the idea requires too much thought for WWE audiences, but I'd propose a nine-man Ladder Match for Judgment Day:

Chris Benoit teams up with Paul London & Brian Kendrick, MVP joins forces with William Regal & Dave Taylor, while Kane is stuck with Deuce & Domino. The United States Championship and WWE Tag Team Championship belts are suspended above the ring, and as each three-man unit is comprised of a singles wrestler and a tag team, the winning unit's singles wrestler will be US Champion, and the tag team will be Tag Team Champs.

They can use this match to promote the new Ladder Match set, and talk about how the concept continues to evolve. William Regal and Dave Taylor are the mediators of the match, while Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Deuce, Domino and MVP jump around and try to earn stronger followings. Chris Benoit and Kane add star power to the match.

Towards the end, Kane goes Chokeslam crazy, even taking out his own partners, and then he climbs the ladder himself. Someone like MVP could have avoided Kane's onslaught, and nails him repeatedly with a steel chair, and then climbs the ladder to pick up the win. Kane looks like a beast, MVP is the new United States Champion, Regal & Taylor are the new Tag Team Champions. Benoit, London, Kendrick, Deuce & Domino would be particularly upset by this. Kane just shrugs it off, and continues climbing his way up the monster chart.

At Judgment Day, I expect Batista to defend the World Heavyweight Title against Mark Henry. This would be an unpopular move, but I'd actually have Henry win the Title. Sure, he's not that great, but he wouldn't be the worst Champion of all-time, either. People were actually taking him seriously last he was around. Then you can have him job the Title to Kane. Sure, it's playing musical titles a bit, but with the current SmackDown! main event scene, you need to shake things up a bit. Kane could actually be the first stable World Champion SmackDown! has had in some time.

If you really hate the idea of Mark Henry winning the World Title, at all, you can have Batista retain at Judgment Day, and then have Kane win the belt at One Night Stand.

[hb2k]

Ok, here it is - Kane is horrible in the ring, his gimmick is stale, and really he adds nothing to the show anymore other than he's a guy that's been around long enough that people know he's a star. I can't remember the last time Kane was involved with something good.

Obviously there is an appeal to Kane from some people, which is fine, but Kane always has, and always will be a character with a plateau. It's not one of the top stars, it's not midcard, it's between the two, and that's always the way it is. Moving him one way or the other is pointless because it is what it is. However, because it's been so long since he's been involved in anything worth anything, his matches are brutal, and his backstage stuff is embarrassingly bad (listening to him recount his thoughts in his head that we can somehow hear as scary music inexplicably plays in the background was fucking brutal, and don't get me wrong, that's not Glen Jacobs fault, but that is what Kane is, and that sucks). I'm not saying he should be fired, but he should absolutely be nowhere near the world title, so as to keep that crap away from PPV main events.

[.44 Magdalene]

Ok, here it is - Kane is horrible in the ring, his gimmick is stale, and really he adds nothing to the show anymore other than he's a guy that's been around long enough that people know he's a star. I can't remember the last time Kane was involved with something good.

Obviously there is an appeal to Kane from some people, which is fine, but Kane always has, and always will be a character with a plateau. It's not one of the top stars, it's not midcard, it's between the two, and that's always the way it is. Moving him one way or the other is pointless because it is what it is. However, because it's been so long since he's been involved in anything worth anything, his matches are brutal, and his backstage stuff is embarrassingly bad (listening to him recount his thoughts in his head that we can somehow hear as scary music inexplicably plays in the background was fucking brutal, and don't get me wrong, that's not Glen Jacobs fault, but that is what Kane is, and that sucks). I'm not saying he should be fired, but he should absolutely be nowhere near the world title, so as to keep that crap away from PPV main events.


Kane's agile and one of the best big men in the ring today, and gimmicks are easy to freshen up if you actually try. He adds nothing to the show because people with this attitude don't integrate him, it's not like it's his fault he's in a useless position. Can't remember the last time the writers wrote him into a good angle? HOLYSHIT HE MUST BE A BAD WRESTLER, RIGHT?

They've changed what Kane is several times now. It'd be pretty fucking easy to just change it again to fit something mainevent and endorsable. I'm not saying Kane should main event--I already expressed that I think he's jobbed too much and too hard--but the attitude that "NO HE SUCKS AND HE'S NEVER BEEN GOOD" is irritating as hell. Kane has been and can be a bigger draw than alot of the fucks they're pushing right now. He's easily as talented as Lashley or Batista, if not arguably more so. Again, I'm not saying he should main event, but people sound like they have sand in their vagina when they flail about OMG HE SUCKS SO HARD THO?!?!

[Londoner]

Damn alienoid, you must have a lot of time to spare considering how long your posts always are. That was the longest post you've written in a while.

[PepperCarrotMan]

With Kennedy injured, it would be a perfect time to have Kane go on a rampage on Smackdown, destroying Kennedy and saying he's angry that Batista got a shot and he hasn't had one in a long long time. Teddy Long then says fine and makes it a three way between him, Taker and Batista. Kane comes out the winner! This would be good.

[Londoner]

Yeah seeing Kane go on a rampage is exactly what Smackdown needs.

[DAMN iNATOR]

With Kennedy injured, it would be a perfect time to have Kane go on a rampage on Smackdown, destroying Kennedy and saying he's angry that Batista got a shot and he hasn't had one in a long long time. Teddy Long then says fine and makes it a three way between him, Taker and Batista. Kane comes out the winner! This would be good.

Nah, they'd be more likely to put Mark Henry in an angle like that, frankly.

[D Mac]

Damn alienoid, you must have a lot of time to spare considering how long your posts always are. That was the longest post you've written in a while.

Yeah Alienoid,















DAMN! :p

[Mr. Nerfect]

Ok, here it is - Kane is horrible in the ring, his gimmick is stale, and really he adds nothing to the show anymore other than he's a guy that's been around long enough that people know he's a star. I can't remember the last time Kane was involved with something good.

Obviously there is an appeal to Kane from some people, which is fine, but Kane always has, and always will be a character with a plateau. It's not one of the top stars, it's not midcard, it's between the two, and that's always the way it is. Moving him one way or the other is pointless because it is what it is. However, because it's been so long since he's been involved in anything worth anything, his matches are brutal, and his backstage stuff is embarrassingly bad (listening to him recount his thoughts in his head that we can somehow hear as scary music inexplicably plays in the background was fucking brutal, and don't get me wrong, that's not Glen Jacobs fault, but that is what Kane is, and that sucks). I'm not saying he should be fired, but he should absolutely be nowhere near the world title, so as to keep that crap away from PPV main events.

I appreciate you trying to explain your views, but The Critic pretty much countered them as I would. Kane is not an awful wrestler, that is your opinion. Kane is one of the better big man workers the WWE has. Far better than Bobby Lashley, Batista, The Great Khali or Mark Henry. Guess what position those guys are in? Some people may disagree with this, but I'd also put Kane above Umaga and The Undertaker. Umaga, because his gimmick is awful (far, far worse than Kane's), and Eddie Fatu is still relatively unproven in this business. The Undertaker because as many women Kane has raped, and as many voices in his head he has shared with us, Kane is far less cheesy than a leotard and mascara wearing man who claims to be a zombie, despite having the name of his wife tattooed on his neck. I also just find Kane is much more charismatic than both in the ring, as well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It doesn't usually take me long to write stuff. It just all kind of streams out. Maybe five minutes, max.

[Jordan]

With Booker T, Taker, and Kennedy out I think a Kane run would be pretty fresh.

[Londoner]

It doesn't usually take me long to write stuff. It just all kind of streams out. Maybe five minutes, max.


You wrote all that in five mins? DAMN!

[Nervous Ferret]

OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS???

He cut's great promos? Everytime he cuts promos I laugh he is terrible on the mic... TERRRIBLE.

And Cena and Hogan at least have charisma, and I will lay everything on the table and say Hogan and Cena are better wrestlers then Kane.

And when he said he was back... It sucked too.

The only reason why you people like Kane is becasue you marked out for him when your younger when his pyro entrance was cool and he layed out the Undertaker. He's bring back childhood memories for people.

Well it's time you now realize he is no longer cool. He is no longer badass.

Kane is a joke in every sense of the word.lol legend