View Full Version : Some shitty stuff which you might have never realised.
dude extreme
05-12-2007, 08:04 AM
Just post all the shitty stuff about wrestling that you think might have gone unnoticed.
eg.
Undertaker held the record of the shortest World title reign by a Royal Rumble winner. Even Rey Mysterio J.R. had a longer championship reign. Most of the time Kurt Angle uses a leg lock along with the ankle lock in order to make his opponents submit. Benoit earned his first wwe pinfall victory at WrestleMania owing to flying Headbutt. Previously he has used the manuver to register victories in WCW.
Team Sheep
05-12-2007, 08:35 AM
Didn't Triple H have it shorter than Undertaker?
Yeh, Trips had it one month before he lost to the Orange Goblin.
dude extreme
05-12-2007, 09:08 AM
Trips 1 Month & 4 Days.
Taker 1 Month & 1 Day.
Trips 1 Month & 4 Days.
Taker 1 Month & 1 Day.
<font color=white>You sure 'bout that?</font>
<font color=white>Actually scratch that, seems about right.</font>
Team Sheep
05-12-2007, 09:56 AM
No, look...
Triple H - 35 days. (March 17-April 21 2002)
Undertaker - 37 days (April 1-May 8 2007)
Yup I'm so bored I looked it up.
owenbrown
05-12-2007, 10:19 AM
If I wanna look up shitty stuff about wrestling, I'll go here... http://www.wrestlecrap.com
BigDaddyCool
05-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Who cares?
Kane Knight
05-12-2007, 01:35 PM
Just post all the shitty stuff about wrestling that you think might have gone unnoticed.
eg.
Undertaker held the record of the shortest World title reign by a Royal Rumble winner. Even Rey Mysterio J.R. had a longer championship reign. Most of the time Kurt Angle uses a leg lock along with the ankle lock in order to make his opponents submit. Benoit earned his first wwe pinfall victory at WrestleMania owing to flying Headbutt. Previously he has used the manuver to register victories in WCW.
:wtf:
You must have BOTH arms on the canvas to be pinned.
You're welcome.
Pardeep 619
05-12-2007, 02:25 PM
Surely Yokozuna holds the record of the shortest world title reign by a Royal Rumble winner of just under 3 mins (or whatever it was)
Pardeep 619
05-12-2007, 02:28 PM
You must have BOTH arms on the canvas to be pinned.
You're welcome.
No you don't. Angle didn't have his arms on the canvas during his match with Taker on 4th July 2002 (where Taker submitted at same time as the pinfall)
Meant shoulders.
Guess I had a real "you're welcome" moment.
:shifty:
Kane Knight
05-12-2007, 03:56 PM
Pins are decided on a three count.
Mr. Nerfect
05-12-2007, 05:49 PM
Pins are decided on a three count.
Not in amateur wrestling. :shifty:
Or King Kong Bundy matches.
:shifty:
Mr. Nerfect
05-12-2007, 06:09 PM
Seriously, though, some random facts:
* Batista has spent more time as a World Champion than The Rock, Kurt Angle and The Undertaker.
* Randy Orton may be the youngest man to win a World Championship in the WWE, but Big Show won the WCW Championship when he was 23 years old. Mikey Whipwreck won the ECW World Championship, which is still active, when he was 23 years old, as well. Lou Thesz is the youngest World Champion of all-time winning the NWA World Heavyweight Championship at just 21 years of age.
* If the WWE recognises Ric Flair as a 16-time World Champion, then the same rules applied to Jeff Jarrett make him a 10-time World Champion, which ties him for third most World Title reigns in sports entertainment history. If they count AWA's history (and I believe they do), Verne Gagne is also on that level.
* Minoru Suzuki is the youngest current reigning World Champion in Japan (AJPW Triple Crown Champion). He is 39 years old. Yuji Nagata is just a few months older at 40 (IWGP World Heavyweight Champion). Mitsuharu Misawa is turning 44 this year (GHC Heavyweight Champion). Compare this to the WWE: John Cena is 30 years old, Edge is 33 and Bobby Lashley (not current Champion, but Vince's golden boy and desires Champion) is also 30.
* Shawn Michaels trained Tomko; William Regal, Finlay and Dave Taylor partly trained CM Punk.
* Jeff Hardy, Val Venis and William Regal are only the WWE Championship away from joining Shawn Michaels, Triple H and Chris Jericho as Classic World Wrestling Federation Grand Slam Champions, in being former WWE Champions, Intercontinental Champions, European Champions and World Tag Team Champions.
Mr. Nerfect
05-12-2007, 06:12 PM
Bwahahahaha! I never knew this, but apparently Bobby Lashley's first name is "Franklin". :lol:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Misc/Franklin-The-Turtle-Triple-Pack-2.jpg
Kane Knight
05-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Notel Vontavius Porter's initials, MVP, also mean "Most Valuable Player."
Or "Moist Vagina, Please."
Shaggy
05-12-2007, 07:08 PM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Misc/Franklin-The-Turtle-Triple-Pack-2.jpg
Looks like Lashley to me...
Kane Knight
05-12-2007, 11:55 PM
Comparison's been done before. As has the "first name" bit. But at least it's not THAT old.
First time I'm hearing it...
Mr. Nerfect
05-13-2007, 12:00 AM
First time I'm hearing it...
Likewise.
Mr. Nerfect
05-13-2007, 12:00 AM
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Misc/Franklin-The-Turtle-Triple-Pack-2.jpg
Lashley's greener.
Kane Knight
05-13-2007, 12:17 AM
Attention span and memory, folks.
IC Champion
05-13-2007, 12:21 AM
*posts*
FourFifty
05-13-2007, 12:29 AM
This was in another thread, but here's the basic outline.
Sean Waltman was NOT the first person to hold WCW and WWF titles at the same time.
Someone said they liked how Ultimo Dragon came out with eight titles at once....
Actually, all of the title belts were one in the same. It was the J Crown Championship put together by New Japan. They took eight of the world's top non-heavyweight titles; British Commonwealth Junior Heavyweight Championship (originally held by Jushin Liger), IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship (originally held by Great Sasuke), NWA World Junior Heavyweight Championship (originally held by Masayoshi Motegi), NWA World Welterweight Championship (originally held by Negro Casas), UWA World Light Heavyweight Championship (originally held by Shinjiro Ohtani), WAR International Junior Heavyweight Championship (originally held by Ultimo Dragon), WWA World Junior Light Heavyweight Championship (originally held by Gran Hamada) and the original WWE Light Heavyweight Championship (originally held by El Samurai). All eight men entered into a four night tournament were the winner would win all eight titles to be named the J Crown Champion. Grand Sasuke defeated Ultimo in the finals, however Ultimo beat Sasuke about two months later and won the J Crown/all eight titles. Ultimo lost it to Liger, Liger lost it to El Samurai, and he in turn lost it to Otani.
The J Crown was eventually disbanded when WWE wanted to reintroduce the Light Heavyweight Title and suddenly realise it was in the hands of Otani, and demanded he give the belt back. See New Japan had been using the physical title belt as one of their own for a long time, but I guess WWE kind of forgot to keep tabs on it (so in a way, the WWE Light Heavyweight Title was on WCW programming when Ultimo carried all the belts around). Anyway, Otani gave back the WWE Light Heavyweight belt, vacted all the rest except the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Belt, and the rest is history.
Did Ultmio Dragon hold the WCW cruiser weight title while he had the J Crown?
Yes, Dean was Cruiser champ through most of his reign with the J Crown, but he did win the Cruiser title from Dean, however he dropped the J Crown like 5 days later.
So, Ultimo Dragon was the first man to hold both WCW and WWF titles. The WWF had a title in the J Crown, and Dragon had the J Crown and the WCW Cruiserweight title. Thus, Ultimo Dragon was the first to hold a WCW and WWF title at the same time, albeit for five days, it was not X-Pac.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Wrestling/lashleyfranklin.jpg
My Photoshopping spree for today is done.
IC Champion
05-13-2007, 12:33 AM
WWE's booking:shifty:
Shaggy
05-13-2007, 12:47 AM
Back on subject here....shitty stuff we might not have ever realized...
Wrestlers used to get disqualified for throwing the opponent over the top rope...unless it was the Royal Rumble
Kane Knight
05-13-2007, 12:52 AM
Wrestlers can get DQed for a closed fist.
FourFifty
05-13-2007, 12:57 AM
Back on subject here....shitty stuff we might not have ever realized...
Wrestlers used to get disqualified for throwing the opponent over the top rope...unless it was the Royal Rumble
That's how Jesse Ventura lost his first match. The guy he was in the ring with liked him so he allowed the DQ instead of Jesse losing by pinfall.
NeanderCarl
05-13-2007, 01:49 AM
Was that rule ever actually enforced in the WWWF/WWF/New York territory though?
FourFifty
05-13-2007, 01:52 AM
Let alone was it enforced in the Capitol Wrestling Corporation?
Mr. Nerfect
05-13-2007, 03:13 AM
Wrestlers can get DQed for a closed fist.
I've always believed a guy like Josh Mathews should become a know-it-all commentator, and when JR is complaining that it's not fair the heel is cheating against Cena, he steps in and reminds JR that closed fists are illegal, and that makes up 95% of Cena's moveset.
Xerzes
05-13-2007, 04:29 AM
Was that rule ever actually enforced in the WWWF/WWF/New York territory though?
Last time I remember this being enforced on TV was a WCW Saturday Night, probably 1995 or something. Sting and Luger were challenging Harlem Heat for the tag team titles, Sting had what was probably Booker T pinned, Stevie charged, Luger gave him a back body drop, DQ. No gold.
Always thought it was a stupid rule.
Mr. Nerfect
05-13-2007, 07:34 AM
OK, this is kind of off topic a little bit, but seeing as we're talking about rules and stuff, it seems appropriate:
What is this shit with Michael Cole always defending a face wrestler for using a chair if a heel introduces it? A face using it because it's there is opportunistic, so I assume he's trying to get at some rule that a weapon can be used by a guy if his opponent is the one who introduces it. Is there, or has there ever been, a rule like that?
The way I always looked at foreign objects in the WWE is this: If you do something to your opponent, and the weapon happens to get in the way, that's perfectly legal (a whip into a ladder set up in the corner would not result in a DQ unless you deliberately placed the ladder there, and even then it's iffy. If you wield a weapon, and use it to transfer kinetic energy into your opponent, and nice vice versa, you can get disqualified.
KingofOldSchool
05-13-2007, 09:21 AM
Refs always prevent the babyface tag team from making a blind tag, but when the heel team does it, the ref doesn't do anything.
Kane Knight
05-13-2007, 09:23 AM
Has a face wrestler ever been caught doing it and not DQed?
Because my thought on the matter was simply that Cole was arguing self defense: The heel has introduced something bad, but he's reminding us the face's use is ONLY because the heel was going to use it first. It's simple, to my knowledge complete, and doesn't require overthinking.
Mr. Nerfect
05-13-2007, 09:40 AM
Has a face wrestler ever been caught doing it and not DQed?
Because my thought on the matter was simply that Cole was arguing self defense: The heel has introduced something bad, but he's reminding us the face's use is ONLY because the heel was going to use it first. It's simple, to my knowledge complete, and doesn't require overthinking.
That's what I entertained in my post, but that doesn't fit with babyface hero Cole. You know, the guy who claims Chris Benoit wasn't going to put Sharmell in the Sharpshooter, even though he forced her to stay down, and set-up for the move? The guy who claimed Matt Hardy did not encourage his brother to jump off a ladder, and wasn't going to give Sharmell the Twist of Fate in Money in the Bank?
That's why I asked, is all.
Kane Knight
05-13-2007, 01:44 PM
Cole's not exactly an evenly written character. Like God, his motives seem to change on the whim of the author.
Also like God, I'm pretty sure he's a work of fiction. :shifty:
.44 Magdalene
05-13-2007, 04:37 PM
Also like God, I'm pretty sure he told me to eat those orphans.
Mr. Nerfect
05-14-2007, 02:17 AM
Cole's not exactly an evenly written character. Like God, his motives seem to change on the whim of the author.
Also like God, I'm pretty sure he's a work of fiction. :shifty:
That's true. It just annoys me whenever a babyface uses a steel chair, and Michael Cole's like "It's OK! He didn't bring it into the match!"
JBL needs to tear into his ass one day.
Kane Knight
05-14-2007, 09:24 AM
I think the FCC would complain.
Wrestlers can get DQed for a closed fist.
Didn't Hardcore Holly loose a match in ECW recently for that?
Theo Dious
05-14-2007, 12:52 PM
...the guy who claims Chris Benoit wasn't going to put Sharmell in the Sharpshooter, even though he forced her to stay down, and set-up for the move? The guy who claimed Matt Hardy did not encourage his brother to jump off a ladder, and wasn't going to give Sharmell the Twist of Fate in Money in the Bank?
It's like heel tactics in reverse. That stuff is seriously up there with "Janetty tried to dive through the window to escape! What an act of cowardism!" as far as denial of what clearly just happened.
Janetty is a fucking coward though. :nono:
Pardeep 619
05-14-2007, 02:12 PM
Hacksaw Jim Duggan is the only Royal Rumble winner in history to have never received a WWE World Championship shot at any time in his career
Theo Dious
05-14-2007, 02:19 PM
Bullshit, he wrestled Sgt. Slaughter for the title on Saturday Night's Main Event shortly after Slaughter became champion.
Theo Dious
05-14-2007, 02:19 PM
I believe he may have been DQ'ed.
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