Konan shoots on Dixie Carter (well TNA) *insert sexual comment here*

[KingofOldSchool]

Former WCW & TNA star Konnan made an appearance on Wrestling Observer Live with Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez on Sunday night (July 8) discussing his departure from TNA Wrestling and speaking out in the media regarding the Chris Benoit situation. Here are some highlights:

- On leaving TNA, Konnan said it was a combination of five years of lies building up and not getting paid enough money.

- He added that not being helped with his health issues also caused him to make his decision. Konnan said he came into TNA with a hip problem and the excuse he got from TNA was that he already had a bad hip. Konnan told them it got worse working for them.

- Konnan said when it was time for him to get the hip replacement surgery, TNA did loan him the money, but wanted it all paid back in full. He said they also offered to loan him money for his kidney transplant as well, but again wanted to be paid back in full.

- He said that TNA always disrespected and briefly mentioned some racial tension.

- Konnan said he could never understand why when he would go to TNA and would ask for more money why that would tell him they couldn't, but were re-signing Christian Cage and giving Kurt Angle and Sting huge contracts.

- He said since he had somewhere else to go (AAA), he just left.

- Konnan said he told Homicide and Hernandez not to leave TNA because he was. He gave them his reasons for leaving having been there since day one and now being broke. "I decided to quit. Enough was enough," said Konnan.

- He added that Dixie Carter has her head in the sand and is oblivious to the problems with TNA. Konnan said that she complains about Jeff Jarrett all the time, but never pulls the trigger and gets him out of there.

- "All of the talent is frustrated there. No one watches the show," said Konnan. He added that the mid-card guys in the X Division are buried so bad and the people in power don't care.

- Said BG James, Kip James and Senshi have all asked for releases from TNA, but the company won't give it to them. He said he just straight up quit and they can't obligate him to work for them since TNA deals don't work like that.

- On getting involved in the media with the Chris Benoit situation, Konnan said quote, "They called me. I didn't call them."

- Said he felt we are all accessories to this (those in the wrestling industry). Felt it was his duty to speak up about the wrestling industry and steroids.

- Konnan said he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and that others won't because they are in fear they won't get a job with WWE.

- Said he didn't understand why so many wrestlers die and no one does a thing about it. He hoped by speaking out that someone in some type of power would step in and get some regulation.

- Said he has gotten some positive and negative feedback to speaking out in the media about what goes on behind-the-scenes with steroid use.

- His stance is that it will save lives and that wrestlers won't have to be on the road so much per year. "We are year round. And you have to take all these substances to stay in tip-top shape," said Konnan. "We are a different breed and put up with it because we love it."

- Said the only good thing that could come out of the Chris Benoit situation is that more attention could get put on the bad things in wrestling.

[St. Jimmy]

http://www.tpww.net/forums/www.meatspin.com

[FourFifty]

- Said the only good thing that could come out of the Chris Benoit situation is that more attention could get put on the bad things in wrestling.

I read that quote and thought of the finger poke of doom.....

[Kane Knight]

What the fuck are you doing i nwrestling when you need a hip or especially a FUCKING KIDNEY!

[FourFifty]

....KIDNEY!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

What the fuck are you doing i nwrestling when you need a hip or especially a FUCKING KIDNEY!

To be fair, Konan hasn't wrestled in TNA in a long time which was before his kidney problems. And he also quit wrestling because of his hip, I don't think it was that bad when he first started working there and it just was a gradual worsening of his hip.

Eh, it happens.

[BigDaddyCool]

- Konnan said when it was time for him to get the hip replacement surgery, TNA did loan him the money, but wanted it all paid back in full. He said they also offered to loan him money for his kidney transplant as well, but again wanted to be paid back in full.

Those bastards. How dare they ask for their money back after they loaned it too him.

- Konnan said he could never understand why when he would go to TNA and would ask for more money why that would tell him they couldn't, but were re-signing Christian Cage and giving Kurt Angle and Sting huge contracts.

Yeah it makes no sence to pay some midcard mexican less than proven draws and for lack of a better term, legends.

[YOUR Hero]

What's this loaning of money? IMO, if you hire a wrestler and he's got medical issues or not, it's your duty as the employer of a sporting organization to pay for their surgeries when the time comes.

[mrslackalack]

Konnan was cool in the Wolfpac

[McLegend]

In America Konnan was never better then he was with LAX.

This time a year they were the best thing going in wrestling

[mrslackalack]

I agree, I like LAX

[Arnold HamNegger]

I liked him best when he first came to WCW and had the mask.

[darkpower]

Did they ask him anything about any possibility going to the WWE at any point? I'm curious to hear if he said anything and, if so, WHAT he said.

[The MAC]

honestly who does konan think he is?He should shut his candy ass and know his damn role.TNA gonna say "sorry Kurt,Sting n Christian..we are putting our cash on Konan"lmfao

[Theo Dious]

- He added that Dixie Carter has her head in the sand and is oblivious to the problems with TNA.

Huh, so apparently she DOES want to be just like Vince?

[BigDaddyCool]

honestly who does konan think he is?He should shut his candy ass and know his damn role.TNA gonna say "sorry Kurt,Sting n Christian..we are putting our cash on Konan"lmfao

Seriously, who is Konnan? He has had decent runs with WCW and TNA, but in no way was he ever the draw. Konnan makes Shane Douglas look like a company man.

[Loose Cannon]

He's one of the biggest draws ever with the Latino fan base. I already gave my opinion on this in the news section. Konnan deserved more money this year for the fact that he put together the whole LAX thing. I guarantee the presentation of LAX was mostly Konnan's ideas. They were hot in the company for a while. He'd be an asset anywhere he went, especially for his wrestling mind.

[Theo Dious]

He's one of the biggest draws ever with the Latino fan base.

Yeah, after Mysterio, Juvi, Super Crazy, and anyone named Gurrerro.

[Theo Dious]

Also,

I guarantee the presentation of LAX was mostly Konnan's ideas.

...yeah, it must have taken a major stroke of genius to present a group of Latinos as gang thugs...

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah, after Mysterio, Juvi, Super Crazy, and anyone named Gurrerro.

lol Super Crazy, Juvi???? get out of here and come back when you don't sound like a moron. go do some research first before you speak.

[Theo Dious]

I'm basing that solely on the sheer number of times I've also heard them called the "biggest draws with the latino community." Any time some latino freak boy with any kind of name recognition comes up someone calls them that. I fail to see how Konnan is any different in that respect.

[Loose Cannon]

Also,



...yeah, it must have taken a major stroke of genius to present a group of Latinos as gang thugs...

it was all in the presentation, not just the blueprint. You can come up with great angles all day long, but if you don't present it in a colorful way, it will flop. The music, the entrance, LAX announcers and fans, the shirts, that was what made LAX work. That was all Konnan.

[Loose Cannon]

I'm basing that solely on the sheer number of times I've also heard them called the "biggest draws with the latino community." Any time some latino freak boy with any kind of name recognition comes up someone calls them that. I fail to see how Konnan is any different in that respect.

where the hell have you heard that? I seriously can't believe you mentioned Super Crazy instead of guys like Gory, Eddie, Santo.... that comment alone just killed your credibility.

[Theo Dious]

where the hell have you heard that? I seriously can't believe you mentioned Super Crazy instead of guys like Gory, Eddie, Santo.... that comment alone just killed your credibility.

Did you miss the "anybody named Gurrerro" part?

And when the Mexicools angle debuted, ALL I heard was "WWE has the three greatest Latino draws ever and they're fucking it up."

[Loose Cannon]

BY Internet fans, right? :lol:

[Theo Dious]

BY Internet fans, right? :lol:

Well as you're on the Internet, and you're the one who called Konnan a huge latino draw, that kind of puts you in that same group, doesn't it?

[McLegend]

Konnan is a huge latino draw. In Mexico he is apparently like Hogan.

Say what you want about Konnan, but the guy isn't afraid to speak his mind about anything. I might not argee with what he says, but I find people like Konnan to be refreshing in this day and age.

[Loose Cannon]

no, there's wrestling fans who have internet and then there's Internet Fanboys. My statements are actually based on facts. Saying Super Crazy overall is a bigger draw then Konnan in the Latino community would be your Internet Fanboy talking.

[Loose Cannon]

as far as contributions to wreslting overall, Konnan is ahead of guys like Mysterio, Psychosis, Juvi and that lot.

[Theo Dious]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k131/JoeSinicki/maxmoon1.jpg

Yeah, where would the wrestling world be without Max Moon... :shifty:

Maybe the guy is the biggest thing in Mexico since the Sombrero, maybe he's the biggest thing in Cuba since the cigar, maybe he's the biggest thing in the Dominican Republic since Roberto Clemente. Doesn't really change the fact that I hear this crap over and over again... it still doesn't mean they're worth crap in WWE, TNA, or any of it. I'm not sure how I got drawn into this discussion in any case when being "the biggest draw in the latino world" doesn't mean anything more to me than that argument a few months back about that KENTA guy being the biggest draw in Japan or whatever. Doesn't make me care about them either way.

But it did give me a chance to post a picture of Max Moon, and I thank you for that if nothing else.

[Kane Knight]

Also,



...yeah, it must have taken a major stroke of genius to present a group of Latinos as gang thugs...

Oh, but it's different! He created a gangster who throws shoes at people!

By the way, if this cocksmoker is huge with the Latin crowd, I'm joining up with James Steele to keep these fuckers out.

[Theo Dious]

Oh, but it's different! He created a gangster who throws shoes at people!

Who throws a shoe. Honestly.

[Kane Knight]

Old ladies.

That's what makes Konnan so NEW and INNOVATIVE!

[Theo Dious]

Latinos refer to them as "zapatos." Which is probably why he's cool. Some Mexican announcer yelling "el zapato en la cabeza! El zapato en la cabeza!" must sound cooler than JR yelling "shoe to the head! Shoe to the head!"

[Theo Dious]

Incidentally, I have found several online sources calling him the "Hulk Hogan" of the latino wrestling world.

Which to me means he's overrated, talentless, egomaniacal, and butt-ugly.
Pretty much what I'd have guessed, really.

[BigDaddyCool]

What the crap is this about LAX? All it is is playing up stereotypes, that is nothing original in wrestling. In fact that is all Konnan ever did, from LAX to the Filthy Animals or whatever it was in WCW. He just wants to be a mexican gangest.

Also, we are talking about TNA. Hot in TNA is like luke warm on Smackdown. He isn't a draw in this country plain and simple. And he just comes off as an assclown then bitches when he doesn't get pushed up the ladder for doing nothing.

[Mooияakeя™]

....KIDNEY!!!!!

COMEDY GOLD.

[Loose Cannon]

What the crap is this about LAX? All it is is playing up stereotypes, that is nothing original in wrestling. In fact that is all Konnan ever did, from LAX to the Filthy Animals or whatever it was in WCW. He just wants to be a mexican gangest.

Also, we are talking about TNA. Hot in TNA is like luke warm on Smackdown. He isn't a draw in this country plain and simple. And he just comes off as an assclown then bitches when he doesn't get pushed up the ladder for doing nothing.

I guess the country is only filled with White American wrestling fans then

[Theo Dious]

What the crap is this about LAX? All it is is playing up stereotypes, that is nothing original in wrestling. In fact that is all Konnan ever did, from LAX to the Filthy Animals or whatever it was in WCW. He just wants to be a mexican gangest.

That's another thing that pisses me off, how come every time WWE does a national stereotype gimmick people bitch... but LAX gets eaten up?

[Kane Knight]

Latinos refer to them as "zapatos." Which is probably why he's cool. Some Mexican announcer yelling "el zapato en la cabeza! El zapato en la cabeza!" must sound cooler than JR yelling "shoe to the head! Shoe to the head!"
Even then, it's gotta be fucking retarded.

I guess the country is only filled with White American wrestling fans then
Weren't you the guy who was defending this as somehow being different?

BDC talking about drawing aside, he's right.

No, wait. BDC's right about drawing, too. Where's the ratings to demonstrate he's a draw in TNA? So either he's not a draw, or the country is filled with white American wrestling fans, because if the LAtino Market was drawing, it'd show.

That's another thing that pisses me off, how come every time WWE does a national stereotype gimmick people bitch... but LAX gets eaten up?
Because TNA is NEW and INNOVATIVE! And it's not WWE! That's their whole selling point!

[BigDaddyCool]

I guess the country is only filled with White American wrestling fans then

Way to take what I said to the logical extreme. And no, there are some black people that like wrestling as well.

Also, might point was that he doesn't draw here the way you claim he draws in Mexico. I mean seriously, who has bought a ticket or ppv just to see Konnan?

[BigDaddyCool]

Weren't you the guy who was defending this as somehow being different?

BDC talking about drawing aside, he's right.

No, wait. BDC's right about drawing, too. Where's the ratings to demonstrate he's a draw in TNA? So either he's not a draw, or the country is filled with white American wrestling fans, because if the LAtino Market was drawing, it'd show.

I just got new crap too put on my sig.

[Theo Dious]

Way to take what I said to the logical extreme. And no, there are some black people that like wrestling as well.

I hear there are even a few on these boards. :eek:

[Kane Knight]

I hear there are even a few on these boards. :eek:

There are also Mexicans. But they're not here officially.

[Theo Dious]

There are also Mexicans. But they're not here officially.

They read posts that American posters just won't read. :nono:

[BigDaddyCool]

There are certain wrestlers that you just are never suprised that they would do a shoot interview slandering an old boss or other workers. Konnan is high on said unsprising list.

Plus he is really ugly.

[#1-norm-fan]

as far as contributions to wreslting overall, Konnan is ahead of guys like Mysterio...

I don't know if you're just saying that for shock value but that's just... wow... what!?

[#1-norm-fan]

And I'm not a huge Mysterio mark or anything... that's just a ridiculous statement.

[Jordan]

Konnan brought all the great WCW cruiserweights to WCW either from AAA or ECW, it was his doing.

[#1-norm-fan]

So? He took a ton of guys who didn't really draw much at all (Like it or not, it's a fact.) and brought them from one US based company to another. What's your point? Where are all those great cruiserweights now? Any companies that make money off of the lucha style would be doing so anyway based on Heyman bringing them into ECW in the first place.

As for the big leagues, Eddie and Rey have undeniably broken the barrier of just being some luchador competing in the cruiserweight division.

[#1-norm-fan]

I should clarify that by "guys who didn't really draw much at all" I am saying the luchadores weren't big draws in WCW. Saying that Konnan contributed more to wrestling than Mysterio because he brought them to WCW, you're basing it on WCW's cruiserweight division which people enjoyed just fine and look back on with fine memories but in the end, which of those luchadores that came over actually went on to be a decent draw?

[Loose Cannon]

contributions to wrestling doesn't just mean inside a wrestling ring.

[Rob]

For everyone buring Konnan for his LAX ideas....

1 - If it was so easy, why didn't anyone do it before?

2- If it was so easy to do, how bad does that make the various "creative" teams would get paid to think of good ideas and they missed this one?

[Kane Knight]

What about LaX was different or new enough to meirt either statement?

[311]

They read posts that American posters just won't read. :nono:

:y:

[Skippord]

I guess the country is only filled with White American wrestling fans then
WHITE POWER

[Theo Dious]

For everyone buring Konnan for his LAX ideas....

1 - If it was so easy, why didn't anyone do it before?

...nobody ever did a Mexican thug gimmick before? :wtf:

[Loose Cannon]

we're not saying the basic premise of the gimmick was never around before. Yes, Los Boricuas was basically a Hispanic thug gimmick, but how did they do? Yes, there has been thug gimmicks before. But the basic gimmick is not was made LAX. The presentation, the actual backstory to the group, and the in your face angles they shot made them.

To me at least, the LAX gimmick and angle stood out from the pack. Some things they did that really stood out? They had a seperate entrance from everybody else in TNA. Konnan put a "border" around the Spanish Announce Table and declared it was "Latinos Only" The group had thier own personal anouncer introduce them. Thier entrance video and music and the way the screen went back and forth with quick cuts between the video and the LAX fans during the entrance was really cool.

And TNA pushed them to be thugs and didn't really pussify anything about them. They laid guys out and "injured" some guys badly. I loved the spot where Konnan held Chris Harri's hand on a brick wall and I think Homicide picked up the guardrail and rammed it right into it. The Spanish/Latino fans got behind them quick, which made for real cool TV because Florida has a good sized Latino base. You could see LAX shirts in about 50% of the arena. They were real heels in the TNA arena at first, which you'll know is hard to be. They did start getting more cheers then boos, which I expected.

As a wrestling fan in 2007, LAX brought something exciting to the table. It breathed some life into TNA. It was based off real situations and they didn't handicap it, especially in the beginning. TNA is going to miss this on their programming and in their arena.

[BigDaddyCool]

we're not saying the basic premise of the gimmick was never around before. Yes, Los Boricuas was basically a Hispanic thug gimmick, but how did they do? Yes, there has been thug gimmicks before. But the basic gimmick is not was made LAX. The presentation, the actual backstory to the group, and the in your face angles they shot made them.

To me at least, the LAX gimmick and angle stood out from the pack. Some things they did that really stood out? They had a seperate entrance from everybody else in TNA. Konnan put a "border" around the Spanish Announce Table and declared it was "Latinos Only" The group had thier own personal anouncer introduce them. Thier entrance video and music and the way the screen went back and forth with quick cuts between the video and the LAX fans during the entrance was really cool.

And TNA pushed them to be thugs and didn't really pussify anything about them. They laid guys out and "injured" some guys badly. I loved the spot where Konnan held Chris Harri's hand on a brick wall and I think Homicide picked up the guardrail and rammed it right into it. The Spanish/Latino fans got behind them quick, which made for real cool TV because Florida has a good sized Latino base. You could see LAX shirts in about 50% of the arena. They were real heels in the TNA arena at first, which you'll know is hard to be. They did start getting more cheers then boos, which I expected.

As a wrestling fan in 2007, LAX brought something exciting to the table. It breathed some life into TNA. It was based off real situations and they didn't handicap it, especially in the beginning. TNA is going to miss this on their programming and in their arena.

OMG! Latinos got over with Mexicians for being gangesters? Konnan is a fucking genious! Only a man of incredible know how and charisma could get a tag team based off of stereotypes over in a local promotion that rarely ventures outside its own arena! Watch out Vince McMahon, Konnan is a free agent now and he is gunning for you.

[Loose Cannon]

I didn't know Florida was Mexico. Yes, they got over with the Latino crowd in Florida. Don't you think it's smart booking with such a big base of Latinos in Florida?

[Theo Dious]

I didn't know Florida was Mexico.

Go there. You'll understand.

[BigDaddyCool]

I didn't know Florida was Mexico. Yes, they got over with the Latino crowd in Florida. Don't you think it's smart booking with such a big base of Latinos in Florida?

No, Florida is part of Cuba, duh. It is common sence booking, it isn't genious.

Fact is, all Konnan does is open doors for other people while closing them for himself. That and he is decent at getting mexican thug gimmicks over. Sounds kinda like a one trick pony too me.

[Theo Dious]

You know, that's the problem with a one-trick pony. You only get one trick! [/The Tick]

[BigDaddyCool]

Haha, spoon. [/Phil Ken Sebben]

[IC Champion]

OMG! Latinos got over in Mexico for being gangesters? Konnan is a fucking genious! Only a man of incredible know how and charisma could get a tag team based off of stereotypes over in a local promotion that rarely ventures outside its own arena! Watch out Vince McMahon, Konnan is a free agent now and he is gunning for you.
HAHAHAHAHA, LOL.

[Theo Dious]

As an aside, LAX is a stupid name. Why would you name a stable of Mexican thugs after a god damn airport?!

[BigDaddyCool]

As an aside, LAX is a stupid name. Why would you name a stable of Mexican thugs after a god damn airport?!

Plus, shouldn't it be LAE? The Latin American Exchage? Plus, what the hell are they exchanging anyhow?

[Theo Dious]

Plus, shouldn't it be LAE? The Latin American Exchage? Plus, what the hell are they exchanging anyhow?

Spelling things with an X is XTREME!!!

Also, they're probably xchanging knitting patterns or some other gay old lady thing.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm getting a little sick of this X thing. Even ECW wasn't XCW.

[Theo Dious]

Yeah, after Sports Entertainment Xtreme they should have dropped it.

I mean THAT made sense. "We're so XTREME that our initials spell S-E-X! And that's XTREME!

More sense than "Latin American Xchange! Which spells LAX! Which... well that's an airport! And, um, there are Latinos at the airport! Yeah!"

[BigDaddyCool]

Yeah, after Sports Entertainment Xtreme they should have dropped it.

I mean THAT made sense. "We're so XTREME that our initials spell S-E-X! And that's XTREME!

More sense than "Latin American Xchange! Which spells LAX! Which... well that's an airport! And, um, there are Latinos at the airport! Yeah!"

Haha, sex isn't extreme. Parents have sex, and nothing parents do is extreme.

[Theo Dious]

Haha, sex isn't extreme. Parents have sex, and nothing parents do is extreme.

But they said sex! ON TV!!! That's... yeah, that's nothing. God Russo is such a child.

[Super V]

I think I may be the only one with the heart to tell you two this, but you two are really really bland and corny.

[BigDaddyCool]

I think I may be the only one with the heart to tell you two this, but you two are really really bland and corny.

K, because we are trying to make you laugh.

[Theo Dious]

I think I may be the only one with the heart to tell you two this, but you two are really really bland and corny.

That's what happens when we have to rail against something that is itself bland and corny.

[Super V]

K, because we are trying to make you laugh.
Usually the point of a joke.

[Theo Dious]

Usually the point of a joke.

A joke... is... a story with a humorous climax...?

[Loose Cannon]

I think I may be the only one with the heart to tell you two this, but you two are really really bland and corny.

LOL. I'm glad other people see this on this borad and just not me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Usually the point of a joke.

I was being sarcastic you jackass. I'm doing this only to amuse myself, and maybe Darth. If you get any amusement of out my post, that is strictly unintentional by-product.

Anyhow, back to discuss. I think I was saying Konnan is a bitter piece of crap that gets over by pretending to be a mexican gangester and really has no reach outside of that.

[Kane Knight]

I was being sarcastic you jackass. I'm doing this only to amuse myself, and maybe Darth. If you get any amusement of out my post, that is strictly unintentional by-product.

Much like Super V himself.

Ayway, Konnan is pretty innovative. I mean, being a Latin Gangster isn't original, but the specifics...Being exactly like every other Latino Gangster, but throwing shoes and speaking in Spanish! And those are the things that got him over to these unproven numbers of people!

[FourFifty]

They read posts that American posters just won't read. :nono:

That means SOMEONE is reading my posts :D

[Kane Knight]

Hey, anyone wonder why nobody thought of Voodoo Kin Mafia before? I mean, sure, they sound like the New Age Outlaws, but they mock another company!

[Theo Dious]

And those are the things that got him over to these unproven numbers of people!

Unproven my ass, look at how many Mexicans dress just like LAX. :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

It's true, they all look like LAX, so they must be imitating the. Fuck! Billo was right! It IS wrestling's fault!

[Theo Dious]

Get the pitchforks, we's goin to' Stamford.

[BigDaddyCool]

Get the pitchforks, we's goin to' Stamford.

Why Stamford...shouldn't me march on Tampa in this case?

[Theo Dious]

Why Stamford...shouldn't me march on Tampa in this case?

Meh, I just want to burn and poke things, I'm not picky about what. Or where.

[chrisat928]

Why Tampa?

I thought TNA was based in Orlando.

[Arnold HamNegger]

Why Tampa?

I thought TNA was based in Orlando.

Doesn't Hogan live in Tampa? Sounds spot on to me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why Tampa?

I thought TNA was based in Orlando.

Because shut up. It is all the same.

[chrisat928]

If it's to stab Hogan with pitchforks, I'm all for it.

[BigDaddyCool]

Sure, then we march on where ever New Japan is. I hate those bastards.

[chrisat928]

That's gonna be a long march.

[BigDaddyCool]

That's gonna be a long march.

We can take a plane or something.

[chrisat928]

That means we'd have to buy new pitchforks in Japan, because I don't think you're allowed to carry pitchforks onto a plane.

[BigDaddyCool]

That means we'd have to buy new pitchforks in Japan, because I don't think you're allowed to carry pitchforks onto a plane.

Yeah, but we could get some cool sword in Japan.

[chrisat928]

Oh, swords. But they would be alot messier than pitchforks.

We'd have a place to hide too, I have some family that live in Tokyo.