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Old 07-09-2007, 06:50 PM   #1
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Konan shoots on Dixie Carter (well TNA) *insert sexual comment here*
Former WCW & TNA star Konnan made an appearance on Wrestling Observer Live with Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez on Sunday night (July 8) discussing his departure from TNA Wrestling and speaking out in the media regarding the Chris Benoit situation. Here are some highlights:

- On leaving TNA, Konnan said it was a combination of five years of lies building up and not getting paid enough money.

- He added that not being helped with his health issues also caused him to make his decision. Konnan said he came into TNA with a hip problem and the excuse he got from TNA was that he already had a bad hip. Konnan told them it got worse working for them.

- Konnan said when it was time for him to get the hip replacement surgery, TNA did loan him the money, but wanted it all paid back in full. He said they also offered to loan him money for his kidney transplant as well, but again wanted to be paid back in full.

- He said that TNA always disrespected and briefly mentioned some racial tension.

- Konnan said he could never understand why when he would go to TNA and would ask for more money why that would tell him they couldn't, but were re-signing Christian Cage and giving Kurt Angle and Sting huge contracts.

- He said since he had somewhere else to go (AAA), he just left.

- Konnan said he told Homicide and Hernandez not to leave TNA because he was. He gave them his reasons for leaving having been there since day one and now being broke. "I decided to quit. Enough was enough," said Konnan.

- He added that Dixie Carter has her head in the sand and is oblivious to the problems with TNA. Konnan said that she complains about Jeff Jarrett all the time, but never pulls the trigger and gets him out of there.

- "All of the talent is frustrated there. No one watches the show," said Konnan. He added that the mid-card guys in the X Division are buried so bad and the people in power don't care.

- Said BG James, Kip James and Senshi have all asked for releases from TNA, but the company won't give it to them. He said he just straight up quit and they can't obligate him to work for them since TNA deals don't work like that.

- On getting involved in the media with the Chris Benoit situation, Konnan said quote, "They called me. I didn't call them."

- Said he felt we are all accessories to this (those in the wrestling industry). Felt it was his duty to speak up about the wrestling industry and steroids.

- Konnan said he wasn't afraid to speak his mind and that others won't because they are in fear they won't get a job with WWE.

- Said he didn't understand why so many wrestlers die and no one does a thing about it. He hoped by speaking out that someone in some type of power would step in and get some regulation.

- Said he has gotten some positive and negative feedback to speaking out in the media about what goes on behind-the-scenes with steroid use.

- His stance is that it will save lives and that wrestlers won't have to be on the road so much per year. "We are year round. And you have to take all these substances to stay in tip-top shape," said Konnan. "We are a different breed and put up with it because we love it."

- Said the only good thing that could come out of the Chris Benoit situation is that more attention could get put on the bad things in wrestling.


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Old 07-09-2007, 06:54 PM   #2
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:25 PM   #3
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:40 PM   #4
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What the fuck are you doing i nwrestling when you need a hip or especially a FUCKING KIDNEY!
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What the fuck are you doing i nwrestling when you need a hip or especially a FUCKING KIDNEY!
To be fair, Konan hasn't wrestled in TNA in a long time which was before his kidney problems. And he also quit wrestling because of his hip, I don't think it was that bad when he first started working there and it just was a gradual worsening of his hip.

Eh, it happens.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:59 PM   #7
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- Konnan said when it was time for him to get the hip replacement surgery, TNA did loan him the money, but wanted it all paid back in full. He said they also offered to loan him money for his kidney transplant as well, but again wanted to be paid back in full.
Those bastards. How dare they ask for their money back after they loaned it too him.

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- Konnan said he could never understand why when he would go to TNA and would ask for more money why that would tell him they couldn't, but were re-signing Christian Cage and giving Kurt Angle and Sting huge contracts.
Yeah it makes no sence to pay some midcard mexican less than proven draws and for lack of a better term, legends.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:19 AM   #8
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What's this loaning of money? IMO, if you hire a wrestler and he's got medical issues or not, it's your duty as the employer of a sporting organization to pay for their surgeries when the time comes.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:26 AM   #10
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In America Konnan was never better then he was with LAX.

This time a year they were the best thing going in wrestling
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Did they ask him anything about any possibility going to the WWE at any point? I'm curious to hear if he said anything and, if so, WHAT he said.
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honestly who does konan think he is?He should shut his candy ass and know his damn role.TNA gonna say "sorry Kurt,Sting n Christian..we are putting our cash on Konan"lmfao
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honestly who does konan think he is?He should shut his candy ass and know his damn role.TNA gonna say "sorry Kurt,Sting n Christian..we are putting our cash on Konan"lmfao
Seriously, who is Konnan? He has had decent runs with WCW and TNA, but in no way was he ever the draw. Konnan makes Shane Douglas look like a company man.
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He's one of the biggest draws ever with the Latino fan base. I already gave my opinion on this in the news section. Konnan deserved more money this year for the fact that he put together the whole LAX thing. I guarantee the presentation of LAX was mostly Konnan's ideas. They were hot in the company for a while. He'd be an asset anywhere he went, especially for his wrestling mind.
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He's one of the biggest draws ever with the Latino fan base.
Yeah, after Mysterio, Juvi, Super Crazy, and anyone named Gurrerro.
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I guarantee the presentation of LAX was mostly Konnan's ideas.
...yeah, it must have taken a major stroke of genius to present a group of Latinos as gang thugs...
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Yeah, after Mysterio, Juvi, Super Crazy, and anyone named Gurrerro.
lol Super Crazy, Juvi???? get out of here and come back when you don't sound like a moron. go do some research first before you speak.
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I'm basing that solely on the sheer number of times I've also heard them called the "biggest draws with the latino community." Any time some latino freak boy with any kind of name recognition comes up someone calls them that. I fail to see how Konnan is any different in that respect.
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...yeah, it must have taken a major stroke of genius to present a group of Latinos as gang thugs...
it was all in the presentation, not just the blueprint. You can come up with great angles all day long, but if you don't present it in a colorful way, it will flop. The music, the entrance, LAX announcers and fans, the shirts, that was what made LAX work. That was all Konnan.
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I'm basing that solely on the sheer number of times I've also heard them called the "biggest draws with the latino community." Any time some latino freak boy with any kind of name recognition comes up someone calls them that. I fail to see how Konnan is any different in that respect.
where the hell have you heard that? I seriously can't believe you mentioned Super Crazy instead of guys like Gory, Eddie, Santo.... that comment alone just killed your credibility.
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where the hell have you heard that? I seriously can't believe you mentioned Super Crazy instead of guys like Gory, Eddie, Santo.... that comment alone just killed your credibility.
Did you miss the "anybody named Gurrerro" part?

And when the Mexicools angle debuted, ALL I heard was "WWE has the three greatest Latino draws ever and they're fucking it up."
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BY Internet fans, right?
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BY Internet fans, right?
Well as you're on the Internet, and you're the one who called Konnan a huge latino draw, that kind of puts you in that same group, doesn't it?
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Konnan is a huge latino draw. In Mexico he is apparently like Hogan.

Say what you want about Konnan, but the guy isn't afraid to speak his mind about anything. I might not argee with what he says, but I find people like Konnan to be refreshing in this day and age.
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no, there's wrestling fans who have internet and then there's Internet Fanboys. My statements are actually based on facts. Saying Super Crazy overall is a bigger draw then Konnan in the Latino community would be your Internet Fanboy talking.
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as far as contributions to wreslting overall, Konnan is ahead of guys like Mysterio, Psychosis, Juvi and that lot.
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Yeah, where would the wrestling world be without Max Moon...

Maybe the guy is the biggest thing in Mexico since the Sombrero, maybe he's the biggest thing in Cuba since the cigar, maybe he's the biggest thing in the Dominican Republic since Roberto Clemente. Doesn't really change the fact that I hear this crap over and over again... it still doesn't mean they're worth crap in WWE, TNA, or any of it. I'm not sure how I got drawn into this discussion in any case when being "the biggest draw in the latino world" doesn't mean anything more to me than that argument a few months back about that KENTA guy being the biggest draw in Japan or whatever. Doesn't make me care about them either way.

But it did give me a chance to post a picture of Max Moon, and I thank you for that if nothing else.
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...yeah, it must have taken a major stroke of genius to present a group of Latinos as gang thugs...
Oh, but it's different! He created a gangster who throws shoes at people!

By the way, if this cocksmoker is huge with the Latin crowd, I'm joining up with James Steele to keep these fuckers out.
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Oh, but it's different! He created a gangster who throws shoes at people!
Who throws a shoe. Honestly.
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That's what makes Konnan so NEW and INNOVATIVE!
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Latinos refer to them as "zapatos." Which is probably why he's cool. Some Mexican announcer yelling "el zapato en la cabeza! El zapato en la cabeza!" must sound cooler than JR yelling "shoe to the head! Shoe to the head!"
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Incidentally, I have found several online sources calling him the "Hulk Hogan" of the latino wrestling world.

Which to me means he's overrated, talentless, egomaniacal, and butt-ugly.
Pretty much what I'd have guessed, really.
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What the crap is this about LAX? All it is is playing up stereotypes, that is nothing original in wrestling. In fact that is all Konnan ever did, from LAX to the Filthy Animals or whatever it was in WCW. He just wants to be a mexican gangest.

Also, we are talking about TNA. Hot in TNA is like luke warm on Smackdown. He isn't a draw in this country plain and simple. And he just comes off as an assclown then bitches when he doesn't get pushed up the ladder for doing nothing.
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What the crap is this about LAX? All it is is playing up stereotypes, that is nothing original in wrestling. In fact that is all Konnan ever did, from LAX to the Filthy Animals or whatever it was in WCW. He just wants to be a mexican gangest.

Also, we are talking about TNA. Hot in TNA is like luke warm on Smackdown. He isn't a draw in this country plain and simple. And he just comes off as an assclown then bitches when he doesn't get pushed up the ladder for doing nothing.
I guess the country is only filled with White American wrestling fans then
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What the crap is this about LAX? All it is is playing up stereotypes, that is nothing original in wrestling. In fact that is all Konnan ever did, from LAX to the Filthy Animals or whatever it was in WCW. He just wants to be a mexican gangest.
That's another thing that pisses me off, how come every time WWE does a national stereotype gimmick people bitch... but LAX gets eaten up?
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Latinos refer to them as "zapatos." Which is probably why he's cool. Some Mexican announcer yelling "el zapato en la cabeza! El zapato en la cabeza!" must sound cooler than JR yelling "shoe to the head! Shoe to the head!"
Even then, it's gotta be fucking retarded.

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Weren't you the guy who was defending this as somehow being different?

BDC talking about drawing aside, he's right.

No, wait. BDC's right about drawing, too. Where's the ratings to demonstrate he's a draw in TNA? So either he's not a draw, or the country is filled with white American wrestling fans, because if the LAtino Market was drawing, it'd show.
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That's another thing that pisses me off, how come every time WWE does a national stereotype gimmick people bitch... but LAX gets eaten up?
Because TNA is NEW and INNOVATIVE! And it's not WWE! That's their whole selling point!
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