View Full Version : Kennedy is not the one to carry the company
Renaissance man
07-14-2007, 12:36 PM
He's wrestling skills are good but not that great and his mic work is average at best. He is not the one to take the wwe into the future.
Agree/disagree?
road doggy dogg
07-14-2007, 12:36 PM
He's no John Cena that's for sure.
Jordan
07-14-2007, 12:38 PM
Kennedy will be one of this generations Austin/Rock/Hogan/, without a doubt.
Renaissance man
07-14-2007, 12:41 PM
He'll never ever be as good as Austin or the People's champ
SammyG
07-14-2007, 12:44 PM
You are a fucking idiot.
IDIOT
Renaissance man
07-14-2007, 12:48 PM
You are a fucking idiot.
IDIOT
Ah yes- the moron in the thread that can't make a decent argument. welcome man
road doggy dogg
07-14-2007, 12:49 PM
You didn't leave much to discuss. You put shit in, you get shit out!
Well lets see...people for the most part love Ken Kennedy, even though he's been a heel his whole career...his first appearance (as a jobber mind you) he had more charisma and character than alot of other people. He constantly tries to improve himself and ask the advice of former greats. He's good in the ring, he's entertaining on the mic, and one of the few people that when I hear his name, I don't want to change the channel.
Does this mean he will be the next Austin/Rock. Probably not, but you can never know. If the WWE keeps pushing him right, and he stays the way he is now, there is always a great possibility of it.
Jordan
07-14-2007, 12:55 PM
He is being groomed to be the next Austin for sure. The comparisons people have made within WWE like Jim Ross, his idolization of Austin, he's gonna be a bad ass guy who's great on the microphone just like Austin, within 2 years.
Kane Knight
07-14-2007, 01:14 PM
I think he's got the potential. The only real fear I have is that they'll blow their load on him too soon.
D Mac
07-14-2007, 01:31 PM
SIG
I see something huge in him. When he was brawling with Super Crazy this past week he reminded me a lot of Austin's ruthlessness and I marked pretty hard.
Is he the greatest talker? No. Wrestler? No. But it's still early in his career and he's still finding a groove. And frankly, he's miles ahead of all the green fucks the WWE has been bringing up. If he keeps up his current path I feel that by 2010 he'll be the face of the company, either with Cena or against Cena.
Kennedy/Cena will be this era's Austin/Rock.
D Mac
07-14-2007, 01:47 PM
I'd see him going back to Smackdown and being the dominant face there. Leaving HHH, Orton, and Cena for Raw.
PepperCarrotMan
07-14-2007, 01:55 PM
I honestly don't see any of these new stars that WWE is pushing to us as being anyone on the level of Austin/Rock/Hogan, besides maybe John Cena (I cant stand the unbeatable champ too, but he is boatloads better than Lashley/Batista).
The only guy I think has real potential to be huge like those mentioned above is MVP. The guy has been incredibly impressive, truly the total package (that I know). He's got great mic skills, he's awesome in the ring and I think barring any WWE mishaps he should be on top soon.
Kane Knight
07-14-2007, 02:12 PM
He jobbed a couple of times. He'll never recover! Never!111!!!11!1!1!
Mr. JL
07-14-2007, 02:21 PM
He has potential, but so did Billy Gunn back in the day.
He has potential, but so did Billy Gunn back in the day.
Meh, was never really that high on Billy Gunn. Even in NAO, I liked Road Dogg more.
Mooияakeя™
07-14-2007, 02:50 PM
He's wrestling skills are good but not that great and his mic work is average at best. He is not the one to take the wwe into the future.
Agree/disagree?
Disagree.
Renaissance man
07-14-2007, 05:01 PM
Kennedy/Cena will be this era's Austin/Rock.[/QUOTE]
did...did you just mention cena in the same sentence as Austin and the Rock?!
Good gravy Batman!
Yes.
Hogan/Piper was before Hogan/Warrior.
Hogan/Warrior was before Austin/Rock.
Austin/Rock will be before this era's big feud.
Does it mean I'm comparing them directly? No. It means I'm comparing the feuds' size and focus relative to other feuds and focuses.
I see something huge in him...
:shifty:
Renaissance man
07-14-2007, 05:30 PM
Does it mean I'm comparing them directly? No. It means I'm comparing the feuds' size and focus relative to other feuds and focuses.[/QUOTE]
Ah- my bad. I see your point
Kane Knight
07-14-2007, 05:37 PM
Yes.
Hogan/Piper was before Hogan/Warrior.
Hogan/Warrior was before Austin/Rock.
Austin/Rock will be before this era's big feud.
Does it mean I'm comparing them directly? No. It means I'm comparing the feuds' size and focus relative to other feuds and focuses.
Stupid people always assume things.
Anybody Thrilla
07-14-2007, 06:36 PM
His mic skills are average at best? Are you kidding me? Who's better than Kennedy on the mic right now?
Mr Regal
07-14-2007, 06:51 PM
His mic skills are average at best? Are you kidding me? Who's better than Kennedy on the mic right now?
Jeff Hardy :shifty:
FourFifty
07-14-2007, 06:52 PM
I could see him as the next Million Dollar Man or Rowdy Roddy Piper. He'll make world champions, but not be a world champion.
Kane Knight
07-14-2007, 07:03 PM
His mic skills are average at best? Are you kidding me? Who's better than Kennedy on the mic right now?
I do want to point out that the company is mediocre right now. So simply being the best in a pile of crap isn't really doing much justice to your point. It's like arguing you were nicer than Saddam Hussein.
Loose Cannon
07-14-2007, 07:04 PM
Yes.
Hogan/Piper was before Hogan/Warrior.
Hogan/Warrior was before Austin/Rock.
Austin/Rock will be before this era's big feud.
Does it mean I'm comparing them directly? No. It means I'm comparing the feuds' size and focus relative to other feuds and focuses.
Hogan/Warrior? They didn't even have a long feud. It was a feud for 2 months. The feud wasn't anything to write home about. The match was awesome, but the feud was nothing special.
Jordan
07-14-2007, 08:24 PM
This may seem small but this is huge thing for me. The give Kennedy the same shots they gave the Rock, push ins, close ups, they are subconsiosly making the fans over time think that he is along the lines of Rock/Austin. Just take a look back at the way Rock was brought up in 98, and Austin in 96 you'll see.
Corkscrewed
07-14-2007, 09:02 PM
The Rock started off slowly too and never blew anyone's socks off until he became The Rock. I mean, back when he was still Rocky Maivia, he was receiving lukewarm reactions at most. Probably not even Matt Hardy level pops.
It wasn't until he grew and evolved into The Rock that things really took off. Kennedy is ahead of The Rock in that level now, in terms of time with company, but ya never know... he might get better.
Heck, Bradshaw sucked on the mic until he became JBL.
Jordan
07-14-2007, 09:17 PM
I liked his promos in the APA.
Mooияakeя™
07-14-2007, 09:23 PM
Time will tell, and I for one will enjoy watching him evolve into what he will be if he becomes what his potential suggests. Apart from HHH, I don't think I really like watching anyone's segments as much.
Anybody Thrilla
07-14-2007, 09:46 PM
I do want to point out that the company is mediocre right now. So simply being the best in a pile of crap isn't really doing much justice to your point. It's like arguing you were nicer than Saddam Hussein.
The guy is absolute class on the mic. He'd shine with anybody.
Shadow
07-15-2007, 12:27 AM
Jeff Hardy :shifty:
*marks out*
Xerzes
07-15-2007, 04:10 AM
Post count goes up.
Tommy Gunn
07-15-2007, 04:52 AM
Kennedy won't be the next Rock/Austin... He'll be the first Mr KENNEDY!
KENNEDY! (sorry)
SammyG
07-15-2007, 05:09 AM
Kennneedyyyyyyyyy
Mr. Nerfect
07-15-2007, 05:30 AM
Mr. Kennedy has a much better shot, as he gets something a lot of the "top guys" these days don't. I think it is honestly because of his acting background, but Kennedy just reacts to things so much better, he acts like he is really doing what he's doing. When I see John Cena cut a promo, or wrestle a match, or listen to the boss talk, his reactions and moves just feel so robotic and you can almost see the strings of management behind everything.
I'm sure Kennedy's stuff is scripted as well, but Kennedy is just gifted enough to make it seem organic, and like he is working on his own behalf. Plus he is learning from the greats like Stone Cold Steve Austin, and he seems like a company man. Oh, and Paul Heyman saw something in him. That is good enough for me.
Kennedy may not be the greatest wrestler ever, but his matches on SmackDown! were far above average. He's got great psychology in the ring, and he manages to keep me involved in his matches by just living through them. That's something John Cena can't do. Stone Cold Steve Austin was not the best wrestler ever, not was he the best talker. He was just more than passable at both, and he found the right persona to portray himself as. I think Mr. Kennedy has a great shot at doing that as well.
As for other guys who could be considered "the future" alongside Mr. Kennedy? Carlito is one. People question his dedication to the business, but just listening to him talk is amazingly entertaining. Lance Cade has got some good size and talent to him, and he can talk. If he manages to continue at a steady pace, and he turns things up at the right time in the right volumes, he could go places. MVP is another, as are Elijah Burke, CM Punk and even Johnny Nitro. The WWE have a lot of potential stars, and if they allow them to grow, you never know who will end up where.
Mr. Nerfect
07-15-2007, 05:31 AM
Oh, I kind of ignored Paul Burchill, Cody Rhodes and Harry Smith. You can't overlook those three.
Kane Knight
07-15-2007, 10:22 AM
As for other guys who could be considered "the future" alongside Mr. Kennedy? Carlito is one. People question his dedication to the business, but just listening to him talk is amazingly entertaining.
Not to mention, the rock left in what was arguably his peak. People couldn't have thought Lesnar was a dedicated professional. A lot of top guys have left, and the only ones who seem committed are the friends and family...Jobs For Life folks with backstaage pull.
darkpower
07-16-2007, 03:55 AM
I'd see him going back to Smackdown and being the dominant face there. Leaving HHH, Orton, and Cena for Raw.
I'd see that being too much logic for the WWE to comprehend.
Stickman
07-16-2007, 01:14 PM
I think they'll blow it. He'll probably be a champ soon and then after that he'll be too bland. He needs a foil which the WWE is failing to create. The supporting cast is too weak for a green guy to carry the load.
Plus, he's not really that good in the ring. Haven't seen a tonne would like to see more. If he is that guy he must be going through "The Ringmaster" phase.
Tommy Gunn
07-16-2007, 05:59 PM
Kennedy needs a good 2/3 month feud with someone amazing to get over as a legit title contender. For now I'd say have him finish out the year with a decent IC title run.
Bret Hart did wonders for helping Austin get over, it's a shame there is no one of that caliber to help Kennedy apart from maybe Triple H.
SammyG
07-16-2007, 06:14 PM
KENNEDY
loosecollector
07-16-2007, 10:01 PM
Kennedy can never carry the company on his own. Nobody did.
Hogan has Savage, Piper, Andre etc.
Rocky has HHH, Jericho, Austin etc.
Austin has Taker, Angle, Bret, Shawn, Mr. McMahon etc.
Kennedy got who?
darkpower
07-17-2007, 04:36 AM
Kennedy can never carry the company on his own. Nobody did.
Hogan has Savage, Piper, Andre etc.
Rocky has HHH, Jericho, Austin etc.
Austin has Taker, Angle, Bret, Shawn, Mr. McMahon etc.
Kennedy got who?
He has Edge (which the WWE ruined with his jump to RAW to feul HHH's own enjoyment), Orton, Cena, Lashely, maybe Taker (again).
Mr. Nerfect
07-17-2007, 06:51 AM
If Mr. Kennedy were a babyface on SmackDown!, he'd have Edge, The Undertaker, Kane, Rey Mysterio and even Finlay. As he's on RAW, I'm not sure who is going to help him. Everyone there seems pretty selfish.
I still want to see The Rock show up on RAW one day, and just a cut a promo because he's in town, and missed the millions (and MILLIONS!) of The Rock's fans, and then Mr. Kennedy interrupts.
Mr Kennedy: Sorry, Dwayne. This is a wrestling show, it's reserved for wrestlers. So take your actor ass out of my ring, because you stopped being relevent in 2003, Flex.
The Rock: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, WHOA! Who in the blue Hell are you?
*Mr. Kennedy gets a cocky smile on his face, shrugs and then gets into his stance*
Mr. Kennedy: MIIISSSTTERRR!
The Rock: It doesn't matter who you are!!!
*Kennedy continues uninterrupted*
Mr. Kennedy: KENNNEEDDDYYY!!!!!!!
*Kennedy gets right in The Rock's face*
Mr. Kennedy: KENNEDY!
The Rock then takes off his glasses and just stares at Kennedy, then extends his hand and does the "Just Bring It" gesture. Kennedy then slaps The Rock across his face. The Rock then starts laying into Kennedy, and gives him the old spit punch over the top rope. The main event becomes The Rock vs. Mr. Kennedy, which Kennedy wins cleanly with the Kenton Bomb.
As for who would continue to help Kennedy grow, two men come to mind. One is a titleless John Cena. Kennedy would constantly out-stage Cena on the mic (and probably in the ring), so Cena would probably end up getting booed, but it would be entertaining to just see Kennedy act like the biggest dick in the world to Cena, and remind him that nice guys finish last. Just don't have Cena try and be funny. "Mr. Cameltoe" doesn't even make sense, really.
The other name that comes to mind is Shawn Michaels. Honestly, a Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Kennedy feud honestly gets me excited. HBK returns, and Mr. Kennedy just cuts a promo tearing into him.
Kennedy: Oh, oh, Shawn. I think I'm hip, I think I'm edgy. Shawn, the only thing hip about you is your replacement. Ah, I'm just being mean. You're pretty cool Shawn. After all, every night before you come out here: "Please God, let me be ultra hip tonight. Please God, stop my hair from blowing off when I go for my Flying Elbow. Please God, let me actually get my leg high enough for the Sweet Chin Music.
Kennedy acting as a total dick = ratings. It's how Stone Cold Steve Austin got over as something special. What I wouldn't give to hear one of Stone Cold's rants on John Cena. "You think you're real tough with your little John Cena cap, your little John Cena shirt, your little John Cena wristband, your crappy John Cena chain, your pathetic shorts, your stupid shoes, your ridiculous buzzcut, your professionally moisturised skin..." That would be right up there with The Rock/Mr. Kennedy.
darkpower
07-17-2007, 08:11 AM
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Kane Knight
07-17-2007, 09:15 AM
He has Edge (which the WWE ruined with his jump to RAW to feul HHH's own enjoyment), Orton, Cena, Lashely, maybe Taker (again).
But...But Edge is the man! HE can do no wrong!
apokalypse7
07-17-2007, 07:07 PM
Mr. Kennedy has MVP. Cor Von, Nitro, Edge, just to name a few, that he can carry the WWE into it's next golden era.
This is totally off subject, but if anyone needs a stable, it's MVP! holy shit, could you imagine a PLayers INC type of crew? Not the New Breed 2.0, but like four T.O.'s
With out that fucking Power Ranger Fit,
darkpower
07-17-2007, 07:09 PM
But...But Edge is the man! HE can do no wrong!
http://www.starnet.com.eg/wwe/LITA/LITA-03.jpg
I rest my case. :shifty:
loosecollector
07-17-2007, 08:42 PM
He has Edge (which the WWE ruined with his jump to RAW to feul HHH's own enjoyment), Orton, Cena, Lashely, maybe Taker (again).
Not very good choices right there if you'd like to carry a company...
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