Fire Pro Returns coming to America and Europe.

[Loose Cannon]

Yea, I'll do that in time. I'm having lots of fun with just the roster as is. Tell you the truth, I love the Octogon shit. I've been playing as Vader (is that Saber?) and just demolishing people left and right. The S-1 shit is fun too, but I hate how you get into a grapple so much and they do nothing. Awesome game though.

[Loose Cannon]

lol, is this Sam Pop guy Bob Sapp? I used him in an octogon match against Kein Harrock. I kept throwing him vicius punches until he finally dropped. Then I did Ground and Pound and he tapped. lol

[Fignuts]

Yeah, thats him.

[Loose Cannon]

Fignuts, this game is the greatest. why didn't you tell me this before???

[Fignuts]

I did.

[Funky Fly]

Mine's cumming on Monday.

[Blitz]

Still trying to get the timing down. Only done 3 matches so far (spent most of the time renaming the rosters, sure wish you could fit more letters in the names), but I've lost them all.

[Boomer]

Once I get my computer up and running again (power source went out), I imagine I will download one of the big roster sets, as I really don't have any interest in all the Japanese guys. I have a hard time picking out who the American guys are anyway.

I'm still getting used to the controls. I won a match against a rank 1 opponent. It's hard for me to tell with all the reversals and such if I was responsible for what happens during a grapple. It's a lot of fun though.

[DaveBrawl]

This may go down as the greatest video game ever. :D

I had forgotten about my lovefest for luchadores, and apparently Dr. Wagner Jr. has some form of bloodfued against me because no matter what mode I go in, he seems to be one of the first random guys that pop up to figth me, and he wins his share a lot of times. :D

[Xero]

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LOL, awesome.

[Funky Fly]

LOL

[Blitz]

Wooooooo just won my first match. Beat Liger with Tiger Mask IV. Granted it was only on level 1, but I'll take it.

[Funky Fly]

My copy just arrived!

Can't stop pelvic thrusting. :love:

[loopydate]

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LOL, awesome.



:rofl: That's amazing.

[Loose Cannon]

ROFL. that's too sweet

[Xero]

Just had a surprisingly good match between Mike Awesome (me, world champion) and Scott Hall. Was working the match up until about the 12 minute mark when I wanted to end it. Scott Hall kicked out of like three Awesome Bombs. Finally got him, but God damn...

[Loose Cannon]

did you DL him or is he in the given roster?

also, my brother took the PS2 to college, so I'll have to wait a little to play again :(

[Xero]

Both are on the roster. Most rename lists list Awesome as The Gladiator.

[Loose Cannon]

oh ok. I think I remember him. do you know where I can find those lists?

[Xero]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/927675/38973

[Loose Cannon]

thx :y:

[Blitz]

This one has them in the order they are in the game.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/927675/40688

[Xero]

That one IS in order according to default factions.

[Boomer]

How do you easily throw a guy into a corner? Or slam him into one? I swear I can't figure it out...

Like Irish whipping just doesn't want to do it to anything but the ropes

[Indifferent Clox]

I saw in a video that it has the actual WWE and such logos in the game... is that a mod?

[Xero]

People did them pixel by pixel. Not a mod as the logo designer is in-game.

How do you easily throw a guy into a corner? Or slam him into one? I swear I can't figure it out...

Like Irish whipping just doesn't want to do it to anything but the ropes
You have to be pretty much perfectly in line to do a whip to the corner (triangle+direction to the corner). To smash their head into the corner get close to the corner (you can do it pretty far off the corner, but get pretty close), grapple and do triangle+direction to the corner. The second one is easier because you don't have to be perfectly in line.

[Fignuts]

Best matches I've ever had

Bret Hart vs Davey Boy Smith
Kawada vs Dr. Death

[Funky Fly]

I must say I find the menus to crazy and poorly designed. It's not noob-friendly at all (my first time with a Fire Pro game), with all the sub-menus and lack of shit being labeled (especially in the create mode). Fucking INFURIATING, really. The very least they could have done is put a little toolbar at the bottom with a list of things you can do and/or access in a given spot (a lot of games do this in some way or another). None of the color palettes are labeled and I figured out completely on accident how to make layers show up more easily against the background (wtf black objects with a black background?).

Took me forever to put together a relatively simple CAW because of this. Didn't even have time to play a match.

[Fignuts]

You will get so used to it, that you will wonder how anyone ever has a problem.

[redoneja]

Just got my copy yesterday but I've been playing at my friend's house since last week. Love the game. I love how strategic it can be once you get into the upper levels of the game.

Created a couple championships to let the CPU battle over mainly. Only thing I don't like about titles is you can't do tournaments for titles (at least I haven't figured out how, if you can).

Haven't messed around with edit mode too much. Gonna go in a rename most everyone and their promotions/groups as I recognize most of the puro wrestlers in the game. Probably just do one organization at a time and then play a bit, so it doesn't get too monotonous.

Also, I love the little things in the game. For instance, if you have a guy that claps as one of his taunts and you do it in the match, sometimes the audience will clap along too. Being able to work over body parts to set up for submissions and whatnot adds a bunch of strategy to the matches.

One thing that I wish was added was an easy way to see each wrestler's stats. As far as I know the only way to view stats would be through the edit mode, but I wish you could view them on the wrestler select screen so you could get an idea of how to go into certain matches.

[redoneja]

Also, I've read that the referees are supposed to play a little different than each other, but I haven't seen any of this at all. Anyone see any differences with the refs, besides obvious physical appearance?

[Xero]

I've noticed some count differently and I think they have different movement speed.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This game is so much fun. I'm addicted to Endless battle royals. They are a blast.

I think I'm gonna try to start my WWE vs. TNA sim fed today.</font>

[Fignuts]

Also, I've read that the referees are supposed to play a little different than each other, but I haven't seen any of this at all. Anyone see any differences with the refs, besides obvious physical appearance?

They all have different attributes, such as count speed, the speed at which they get down to the mat to strt counting, how long they stay down when knocked out, and more.

You can also make your own ref, if you don't like the ones given.

[Funky Fly]

Also, lol @ the wrestler theme music. Whole buncha knockoffs in there.

[Loose Cannon]

I haven't had to many entrances, so I haven't heard a lot of the themes. The ones I heard all sound the same. I thought there were only like 2 themes in the game. lol

Are there only entrances for basic matches? Also, can you listen to themes in the edit mode?

[Funky Fly]

There are 60+ themes. Blatant knockoffs of HHH, Hogan, Stone Cold and Eye of the Tiger in there, for example.

[Boomer]

For someone in the know, which save download should I get? I got the big one off of Gamefaqs savegame selection, and its fairly good, but I didn't know if there was anything better. I really don't care about the Japanese guys. I would like some good ring logos too. I just don't really understand what "packs" are.

[Indifferent Clox]

is there a firepro rom somewhere? i must play. I haven't since the GBA version and my dick is still hard from that.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

For someone in the know, which save download should I get? I got the big one off of Gamefaqs savegame selection, and its fairly good, but I didn't know if there was anything better. I really don't care about the Japanese guys. I would like some good ring logos too. I just don't really understand what "packs" are.

Checkout fireproclub.com and the message board there. Personally, I love Ahep's ROH/TNA save, Jae's Dragongate save( you probably won't care about that), and I think Senators WWE pack is good.... Although I might have his mixed up with someone else's. There's two wwe packs everyone likes.. I wasn't a fan of one of them, the other I love.

[Boomer]

I really want to use Senators...but I don't have two memory cards...so I'd have to make it my base save

[weather vane]

This game seems insanely complicated....

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Only if you're not willing to learn.

Otherwise, it's insanely deep, if anything.

[weather vane]

Yeah eh? Well just hearing about all these packs and downloads and everything. It turns me off the game somehow.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

The packs are just for character/ring edits. You don't need them whatsoever to enjoy the game.

[Funky Fly]

You only need all that shit if you're gonna rename everyone. I really can't be arsed. Only way I'd bother is if someone releases a simple English converter shits for it for less than $20.

[Funky Fly]

God damn it, VC.

[Xero]

The packs are just for character/ring edits. You don't need them whatsoever to enjoy the game.

:y:

The packs just make it better. I was enjoying the game by leaps and bounds before I even had an AR. Got an AR last night. The game just got 10xs better.

But you don't NEED it.

[Xero]

Just did Lynn/RVD. I managed to end it with Van Dam doing the Van Daminator (Spinkick with Lynn holding the chair). :cool:

[Funky Fly]

BTW, when you're editing the wrestler in the section where you set height and weight and speed and shit, what do the different settings under Critical do?

I notice because when you choose something, it's like 20/10±/20± on the side.

THEY DON'T EXPLAIN THIS SHIT :mad:

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Likeliness of a Critical? :?:

[Funky Fly]

Likeliness of a Critical? :?:

the first number is the cost, just like all the other stats, but I don't get what the second and third do. I'm sure one is the likeliness of critical, but what about the other?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

You know, I'm not sure. I always thought it just had to do with costs ( plus 10 to the next, plus 20 to the one after that, etc)

[Funky Fly]

YET MORE SHITS GO UNEXPLAINED!

Ok, so when you are assigning moves there are 2 spaces next to the little indicator that shows you which button does the move. It's like this (talkin' about the blue shits):

O-> - - Go 2 Sleep

Yeah, so if you move the cursor over the first one and press X it cycles through V1, V2 and the - again. The second one cycles through S, C and the -.

WTF do they mean?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

V1 and V2 are the voice samples, and if you mark them, they'll make that noise while doing the move.

S is Signature, C is Critical/Finisher. Are you sure they don't say this in the instructions?

[Funky Fly]

Not mentioned at all.

[Funky Fly]

Just had my first match. Pretty sexy.

Put Jushin Liger away with a Puma Driver

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Had a nice little match earlier between Jericho (updated appearance), and a created character of my own. I was simming it, and it was damn close. Near the end, Jericho hit a triple powerbomb and went right into the liontamer. It was too close to the ropes however. A few seconds later, Jericho goes for a jumping sole butt ( spin kick), but he mis-aims, whiffs, gets caught with a complete shot that criticals him. Pretty slick sequence.

[Funky Fly]

Can't stop fucking playing this. :mad:

[CSL]

Still no european release news :(

[Funky Fly]

That's pretty gay, mang.

Just created the Canadian Junior Title. I need to look up all those Titles Lance Storm had in WCW.

[redoneja]

If I get a codebreaker and then d/l an edit pack to a USB thumb drive, can I get the edits or do I NEED to get an AR Max?

[Xero]

Codebreaker works but you need to convert the saves.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

YES! I think I have mastered the timing. Nothing like whooping on a luchador in a Gruesome Match

[Funky Fly]

I wish they'd put out that other game with the AKI engine. That game looked like the shit. I don't have time or money for imports and mods, tho.

God damn.

[Fignuts]

WHat other game? Virtual Pro Wrestling 2? Download an n64 emulator and go to emuparadise. They have the rom. Runs perfect too.

[Funky Fly]

Sexy. Now I just need to learn Kanji/Katakana.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Not really.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/n64/game/576850.html

[Fignuts]

Yeah, the menus are easier to learn than fpwr

[redoneja]

Shit, got an AR Max on the way and just realized I only have one memory card with me here at college. Fuck.

[Destor]

This game is the love of my life ftr.

[Destor]

Out of curiosity who have you all made so far?

Off the top of my head I have Austin, Rock, H, HBK, Big Show, RVD, Booker T, Benoit, Angle, Flair, Ultimo, Goldberg, Punk, Malenko, Cotoure, Lidell, Lesnar, Taker, The Hardyz, Taz, and a Bear.

I might be forgetting someone. Dunno.

[Funky Fly]

Takes forever to make guys. I just have 2 CAWs for now.

[Blitz]

I have made no one. Been going through the roster, seeing who's good and who sucks.

[Xero]

I have a custom roster of about 450, with full logic.

Boo-ya.

[Fignuts]

I have made no one. Been going through the roster, seeing who's good and who sucks.

Fun to use
Shuji Kondo
KENTA
Naomichi Marufuji
Hiroyoshi Tenzan
Shinsuke Nakamura(if you like the mma/powrestler mix type guys. I do.)
Akira Taue
Everyone in DragonGate
Ultimo Dragon
Koji Kanemoto
Minoru Tanaka(see Nakamura)
Super Delfin
Billy Ken Kid
Danshuko Dino

Just a few off the top of my head. Omitted obvious ones like kobashi.

[Blitz]

Yeah I have been using KENTA and DG guys mostly.

[redoneja]

Been tearing it up as Bruiser Brody. Slammed a guy near a chair, rolled him over so he was face down with his head over the chair and hit his running double knee drop for a Critical. :cool:

Took me quite a few times to get that down tho.........

[Xero]

Got to love when a move will critical when it's on a chair or a barbed wire bat or something.

[Funky Fly]

I still haven't gotten a single critical. GAY

[Blitz]

Same.

[Fignuts]

I still haven't gotten a single critical. GAY

Did you know you can turn up the probability of criticals in match options?

Also, use Vader.

[Funky Fly]

Yes and ok.

[Destor]

Takes forever to make guys. I just have 2 CAWs for now.
Takes about a half hour to make a guy. Compare that to the WWE games man, it's a breeze.

[Destor]

I have a custom roster of about 450, with full logic.

Boo-ya.
But you cheat

[Loose Cannon]

what is a critical? cause I saw that come up once and didn't know if I was suppossed to do a special move or something

[Destor]

It's a KO basically. But 1,000,000xs cooler.

Also: http://bestof2007.1up.com (http://bestof2007.1up.com/) vote Fire Pro.

[DaveBrawl]

Hey Fignuts, where did you find the Ultimo Dragon? I found him under Tiger Mask II as one of the alt. costumes, but is he in there actually listed as Ultimo Dragon (after translation of course)?

[Xero]

Ultimo is only under The Tiger 2.

[Destor]

Just make him.

[DaveBrawl]

He was actually in one of the edit packs I dled but I was just curious if he was listed twice on the roster.

[redoneja]

I'm having trouble. I have the AR Max and I've d/l'ed an edit pack to the USB thing but everytime I go to transfer data, it keeps coming up as "No files to transfer". What am I doing wrong?

[redoneja]

Nevermind, I'm an idiot for not selecting the files.

[Loose Cannon]

I have never done it, but is it a zip file that you are downloading? cause you may have to extract the files.

[redoneja]

God this AR Max takes a ridiculously long time to copy and delete files. :mad:

[redoneja]

Alrighty, finally got my edit pack onto the game and all of the characters into correct organizations and groups.

Couldn't get The Senator's pack to work so I went with some other one. Kinda wish I went through and just copied most of the guys instead of making it my default game setting. Oh well.

[Funky Fly]

Takes about a half hour to make a guy. Compare that to the WWE games man, it's a breeze.

Yeah, if you're familiar with the menus, moves and CAW system in general. Making my first guy took me like 4 hours. Most of that was jiggering with the menu and looking trying to figure out how to do shit.

It's definitely the worst menu I've ever seen in a videogame. Nothing is labeled and everything is ass backwards.

[Destor]

The first time is a bitch, but once you've done he first one it's nothing.

[Funky Fly]

You'd think they woulda fixed that, considering th games been out for 2 years before coming to the US.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

You'd think they woulda fixed that, considering th games been out for 2 years before coming to the US.

Why? It was pretty much just a translation port. Agetech wasn't making actual changes to the game outside of translating.

[Fignuts]

He was actually in one of the edit packs I dled but I was just curious if he was listed twice on the roster.

Ultimo changed his gimmick to a tigermask type guy when this came out, so thats his first costume. The other 3 are his ultimo suits.

[Funky Fly]

Why? It was pretty much just a translation port. Agetech wasn't making actual changes to the game outside of translating.

Why? It's the worst menu in gaming history. The only way it could be worse is if shit didn't work.

Ultimo changed his gimmick to a tigermask type guy when this came out, so thats his first costume. The other 3 are his ultimo suits.
Is there any way for CAWs to have more than 1 outfit?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Why? Because they weren't coding the game. Translations are one thing, changing menus are another. They weren't hired to change things, they were hired to translate. Shit, if they were changing things, then they should have made edits usable in booking mode.

And honestly, no offense Funky, it's not that bad. Just learn where stuff is, and it's not hard. I've been navigating it in Japanese for 2 years, and I've never had major problems. Is it the actual appearance you're having issues with, the skills, or what?

[What Would Kevin Do?]

No, edits have one outfit.

[Funky Fly]

Why? Because they weren't coding the game. Translations are one thing, changing menus are another. They weren't hired to change things, they were hired to translate. Shit, if they were changing things, then they should have made edits usable in booking mode.

And honestly, no offense Funky, it's not that bad. Just learn where stuff is, and it's not hard. I've been navigating it in Japanese for 2 years, and I've never had major problems. Is it the actual appearance you're having issues with, the skills, or what?

I have 1 issue with the menu:

1. It's like a bowl of spaghetti, everything goes off into different directions. It's just not efficiently streamlined. Like for real, I can't believe the guy who programmed the menu wasn't fired on the spot for turning in something like that. Of course you get used to it after a while, but the point of a menu is not to get used to it. You're supposed to be able to pick it up and be like "this tells me exactly where everything is and how to use it" right off the bat. I shouldn't struggle for a couple of hours getting used to it. Defeats the whole purpose.

Maybe I am just flipping out, looking at it from a programming perspective, but seriously, wow. Like if I showed this to any of my professors, they'd flunk the guy for sure. The way I look at it, the first thing we're taught about GUIs is to make them easy to read and easy to navigate not for you (the programmer) but ultimately for the end user. It just fails at those that.

And a personal gripe (yeah, that was all just from my future profession's perspective), I hate the right stick shortcut system, but thankfully, that can be turned off in the options.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

You have to remember Funky, it's from Japan, they're smarter than us ;)

[Funky Fly]

All of them except the menu guy. I bet he's a foreign guy :mad:

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Also, I can't recall what it's named, but the second option in the color menu is amazing... Not gradient sample, but the one that scales the colors.

[Funky Fly]

I know what you're talking about, but what exactly does that do? Never tried it out.

[Mister Sinister]

I'm loving this game.

Only renamed about 100 guys so far, but working on it.

Created Punk, which I am happy with his kicks and slap movelist, to easily set up the Go To Sleep or the Anaconda Vice

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I know what you're talking about, but what exactly does that do? Never tried it out.

Basically if you set the first color of the set, and the last color, it'll blend the two in between to be a smooth transistion between them. Basically if you start dark, and end light, it'll blend the color better so it doesn't look solid and bad.

It's sort of hard to explain, but it just makes colors look better.

[owenbrown]

Someone gave me this game as an early xmas present and I love it. Sure I am not used to the moves yet, but I think I will get it down. Overall, still a very good game. :y: :y: :y:

[redoneja]

Made a "War Games" title, to be contested in a 4v4 Cage match that can only be won by submission. I've tried it out (instead of just simming it). Put the CPU on 7 and it was tough as shit. Luckily, one of my team mates managed to get the win, cause I was fucked.

[Xero]

I swear there will never be a reason to get another wrestling game unless they release another Fire Pro.

[redoneja]

Just found some old AWA and WCCW edit packs. Sexxxxxxy.

[Loose Cannon]

nice. they got Bockwinkle and Parsons on there?

[KingofOldSchool]

Just found some old AWA and WCCW edit packs. Sexxxxxxy.

Where at?

[loopydate]

Good lord do I hope that people were paying attention when I told them I wanted this for Christmas...

[redoneja]

nice. they got Bockwinkle and Parsons on there?

Where at?


The AWA pack is here: http://www.fireproclub.com/fpr.html (near bottom of page) and here is the info:


This edits in this pack are from the 1980-1984 era (besides Graham)...
All edits are complete with logic and parameters.

Verne Gagne
Nick Bockwinkel
Bobby Heenan (wrestling gear)
Bobby Heenan (Bockwinkel's second)
Hulk Hogan (AWA version)
Rick Martel (AWA version)
Crusher Blackwell
Ken Patera
Sheik Adnan El Kaissey
Greg Gagne
Jim Brunzell
Jesse Ventura
Adrian Adonis
The Crusher
Baron Von Raschke
Tito Santana (AWA version)
Tommy Wildfire Rich
Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer
Hacksaw Butch Reed
Masked Superstar
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Junkyard Dog
Ivan Koloff
Tony Garea
Jerry Lawler
Bill Dundee
Superstar Billy Graham (WWWF Champion)</pre>

I went looking for the WCCW edit pack again (it did have Iceman Parsons in it LC) but I couldn't find it. Completely forgot to bookmark the page, but if I find it again I'll post it.

[Dorkchop]

I swear there will never be a reason to get another wrestling game unless they release another Fire Pro.

A 3D one would be nice. I saw it for $20 today and almost bought it. Maybe after Christmas I'll pick it up. I haven't played a wrestling game, regularly, since the first Smackdown vs Raw which I got bored of quickly.

[redoneja]

Holy shit, just had an amazing finish to a match, I was Naruki Doi and my CPU partner was CIMA (Blood Generation) vs Genki Horiguchi and Dragon Kid (Do Fixer). Tough back and forth match, at the end I bodyslammed Dragon Kid outside the ring and CIMA jumped off the apron to attack him while Genki got in the ring to attack me. While on the outside, CIMA hit Dragon Kid with a Scheiwn and got a Critical, giving us the countout win. As the referee was counting 18, I hit Doi's Sliding Kenka Kick and got a Critical as well, making them virtually simultaneous.

[loopydate]

Wow, this game is hard. Amazing, but hard.

[loopydate]

I just simmed a six-man battle royal with the six TNA wrestlers in the game. Kevin Nash wound up winning. Petey Williams was the MVP of the match, though. He hit a ton of high spots and about a half-dozen Canadian Destroyers. Jarrett was the first one out, then AJ (who got busted open), then Sting. It came down to Nash, Petey, and Christopher Daniels (in his Curry Man gimmick). The X-Division stars double-teamed Nash for a couple of minutes before Petey turned on Daniels and hit the Destroyer for the pin. Immediately after, Nash hit the Jacknife for the win. Went 21 and a half minutes. Such a great game...

[Mr. Monday Morning]

FYI those in the States it is now on Amazon for $8, apparently

[Funky Fly]

Closer to 8 pounds than $8

It's still $14.99.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

My bad. Looks like it was a deal of the day type thing.

[Xero]

It really was down to $8 the other day.

[Fignuts]

Found this at k-mart. Can't wait to finally get into logic editing. Was one of the few things that was very difficult to do in the jap vrsion.

[Funky Fly]

Oh yeah, forgot to ask about that ish. What's up with the logic?

[redoneja]

from gamefaqs


Fire Pro wrestler logic can basically be divided into two distinct
categories (please note that specific logic parameters are outlined in
the General FAQ):

MOVESET LOGIC - Determines which moves a wrestler will attempt at
certain points in the match. For example, how often a wrestler decides
to attempt his "big" moves depending on his opponent's health status.
Tweaking these parameters can ultimately make your edit more reckless
or conservative in the ring, depending on the settings.

BEHAVIORIAL LOGIC - Determines the wrestler's general characteristics
and tendencies inside the ring. For example, does he try to entertain
the audience, or does he only care about winning? If he has a tag
partner, is he cooperative? Tweaking these parameters will greatly
affect your edit's overall in-ring psychology.</pre>

[Fignuts]

That description is vague as all fuck compared to what you can actually do.

It doesn't just include big moves. Its EVERY move. Thats why logic was such a bitch in the jap version. Because unlike the move selection part, there is no preview for the move you are on. It just lists the name of the move(in Japanese).So you have to write down the guys entire movelist, then use a translation guide to actually program it.

You can literally program a guy to wrestle just like he does in real life. You an make it so 90% of the time warrior does clotheslines, or you can make angle systematically break down the leg.

You can also program a succesion of 3 moves. In other words you can make it so Angle hits the angle slam, taunts, and then slaps on the ankle lock.

Logic, more than the grappling system, more than the deep roster, is the greatest feature of Firepro. No question.

[Funky Fly]

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSexy.

[Xero]

I have to look at the Joe I have, speaking of which. Did an eight man tag elimination and it was rare for him to do a pin (only a powerbomb pin) OR tag out. Since I set it for falls only, it went over the 99.59 time limit. Never got to the end because they kept interrupting the falls and Joe almost never pinned...

[Fignuts]

Apparently this is doing crazy numbers(relatively). Something like 11,000 sold already. And it hasn't even hit europe yet. They only sold 15,000 in Japan before it bacame a greatest hit over there. That is WAY more than they expected.

I will bite the bullet and say I was dead wrong on this one. I didn't think this game would sell, let alone grab the numbers it has already. Obviously a very lackluster performance by THQ was a major factor I think.

But holy crap, this is the best news ever, as with numbers like this, I can see future titles being released here.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Pretty sure I read somewhere part of the reason for the release was to gauge interest in them doing another game, so you are probably right Fignewton

[redoneja]

Just found a great edit pack with alot of wrestlers from the 80's and early 90's. You have to be a member of the forums to dl the save though. Still, it's worth it as there are alot of saves at this place. The site is http://www.fireproclub.com/forum/index.php?sid=50fd59e22a244b51ded880f737cee10e

Corey291's Old School Edit Pack

Legend
Bruno Sammartino
Harley Race

WWF-Pre Hogan
Bob Backlund
Superstar Billy Graham
Magnificent Muraco
Big John Studd
Sgt. Slaughter
Jimmy Snuka
Ivan Putski
Iron Sheik
George "The Animal" Steele
Afa
Sika
Mr. Fuji (new)

WWF - Hogan Era
Hulk Hogan (of course)
Randy Savage
Ultimate Warrior
Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
Rick Rude
Paul Orndorff
Superstar Billy Graham (1986-87 version with the bald head,bleached goatee and tie dyed shirt)
The Hart Foundation (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart)
The Rockers (Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty)
Strike Force (Tito Santana & Rick Martel)
Demolition (Ax, Smash and Crush)
The Islanders (Haku & Tama)
Twin Towers (Big Bossman & Akeem)
"The King" Harley Race
"The Natural" Butch Reed
Kamala
Honkytonk Man
Junkyard Dog
Greg Valentine
Brutus Beefcake
Blue Blazer (new)
Koko B. Ware (new)
Mr. Perfect (new)
Bad News Brown (new)
Roddy Piper (new)
Earthquake (new)
Don “The Rock” Muraco (new)
Powers of Pain (Warlord & Barbarian) new
Jacques & Raymond Rougeau (new)
The Conquistadors (#1 & #2) new
Super Machine (Masked Superstar/Bill Eadie/Demolition Ax) new


NWA (National Wrestling Alliance, not TNA)
Ric Flair
Barry Windham
Arn Anderson
Tully Blanchard
Ole Anderson
Dusty Rhodes
Lex Luger
Magnum TA
Ivan Koloff
Nikita Koloff
Krusher Kruschev
Midnight Express (Stan Lane, Bobby Eaton & Dennis Condrey)
Big Bubba Rogers
Rock & Roll Express (Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson)

Georgia Championship Wrestling
Road Warriors (new)
Jake Roberts (new)

WCW
Sting (The blond version from the late 80s/early 90s
Hollywood Hogan
The Steiner Brothers (Scott & Rick from the early 90s. And yes, Rick has his head gear on.)
Doom (with masks as Doom#1 and Doom#2)
Doom (Ron Simmons & Butch Reed unmasked)
Harlem Heat (Booker T & Stevie Ray)
Dean Malenko
Eddie Guerrero
Chris Jericho
Rey Mysterio
Juventud Guerrera
Rey Misterio Jr.

WWE
Eddie Guerrero
Chris Benoit
Hulk Hogan (2005 Red & Yellow tie dyed appearance)
Mr. America
Mankind
Dude Love
Mick Foley
Ron Simmons (new)
Owen Hart
Rey Mysterio (new)
Steve Austin
Rock
Mark Henry (new)
Great Kali (new)
Shawn Michaels (new)
Bret Hart 1997 (new)
Kurt Angle (new)
Big Show (new)

ECW
The Eliminators (John Kronus & Perry Saturn)
Public Enemy ("Flyboy" Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge)
The Gangstas (New Jack & Mustafa)
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero (with his Gringos Locos tights, that he wore when he first entered ECW)
Cactus Jack

World Class
Kerry, David, Kevin & Fritz Von Erich
The Freebirds (Michael "PS" Hayes, Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy, Buddy Roberts, Jimmy Garvin)
Chris Adams
Gino Hernandez
"Iceman" King Parsons
Missing Link
Dingo Warrior

New Japan
Power Warrior (Kensuke Sasaki as one half of the Hellraisers with Road Warrior Hawk)
Jushin Liger (early 90s version when he was doing a lot more high flying)
Pegasus Kid (Chris Benoit when he wrestled under a mask)
Black Tiger II (Eddie Guerrero)
Owen Hart (late 80s) new

Other
Lightning Kid (later known as Xpac)
Brock Lesnar


There are also a good amount of logo edit packs to be found on the site, including WCCW, AWA, NWA, SMW, and a shitload of WWF ones(Old Wrestlemanias and Saturday Night's Main Event).

[Loose Cannon]

holy shit. nice.

hey question. when doing a tournament or a league, do you have to watch all the CPU Matches or what? I can't find a way to skip them.

[Xero]

I think the option is called "COMSKIP". It still sims them but it's at 800% speed.

You can't change it mid-tourney though.

[Loose Cannon]

where's that option at? when you hit square in the "league screen" it just gives like 3 options and that's not one of them

[Xero]

When you're making the tourney/league, it's on the match rules screen. Right above the Referee selection.

[Loose Cannon]

ah, got ya. Thanks. saves me a lot of boring time

[Loose Cannon]

just played a 64 man UFC style tourney. Was Bob Sapp and got to the finals with Cyborg and I was beating the shit out of him. Then he gets one shot on me...Critical, then KO. Jeez

[My Final Heaven]

Just thought I would let everybody know, I picked this up at Dollar General the other day for $15. Dollar freakin' General, when I thought I would have to hunt every Gamestop in the area for this shit. Ridiculous.

[loopydate]

I'm having way more fun simming matches than playing them myself. Turning CPU skill up to 10 and just letting them go at it is amazing. Watched a fantastic Carlito vs. Super Crazy match earlier that was paced just like that kind of match would be if Vince didn't water down his cruisers. Crazy won it with a flying headscissor about sixteen minutes in.

I've been using CAWS.ws for formulas (I don't feel like spending $40 for an ARMax), and have been having a blast making Triple H, Kamala, turning Jamal into Umaga... I have to hope that WWE is paying attention to the rave reviews FPR is getting and takes some cues from its success. This is the best wrestling game... probably ever.

[KingofOldSchool]

I'm trying to get a Codebreaker so I can use some of those edit packs.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I just made Santa.
Yes, Santa.

[Xero]

New WCW 98 Edit pack is out.

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http://members.cox.net/fireprowrestling/editpacks.html

Looks awesome. :D

[Fignuts]

Those logos are incredible

[Jura]

Diamond Cutter off the top rope!

[Jura]

TNA Turning Point

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[Jura]

Old ECW

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[Vietnamese Crippler]

Is it wrong that I shed a tear during that video?

[Nowhere Man]

Okay, so I finally found a copy of the game. And yes, I absolutely love it. Too bad I don't have the programs I need to download those edit packs, though, so I'm gonna have to make my stuff the old-fashioned way.








.....this is going to take for-god-damn-ever.

[KingofOldSchool]

I bought me Codebreaker off of eBay this morning, I hope I get it within the next week.

[Fignuts]

Okay, so I finally found a copy of the game. And yes, I absolutely love it. Too bad I don't have the programs I need to download those edit packs, though, so I'm gonna have to make my stuff the old-fashioned way.








.....this is going to take for-god-damn-ever.

It will also be mch more satisfying.

[Fignuts]

Wow, so since messing with the logic in my edits, I've been able to have even better matches than I have before. Which is saying a lot. Just had a 30+ minute epic between HBK and Jeff Hardy. Phenomenal ending as at te 30 minute mark hbk hit the superkick for a 2.9 count. Follows it with a russian leg sweep. 2.9 count. Piledriver 2.9 count. I try and fight back inthe corner, but he reverses and does a groin punch(indicating his frustration, as I have it set that he rarely does that move.) And follows it up with his specialty elbow drop for a.............2.9 count. He gets behind me, but I reverse the grapple into a chin crusher, and hit the swanton bomb, followed by a twist of fate in the center of the ring for the 3 count.

Oh, and I also figured out how to navigate edit logo mode, and made a pretty damn good tna logo. Not only did it not take as long as I thought, but it came out better than I thought it would.

[Fignuts]

I'll say it again.

The logic is so deep that you can actually program it so a face uses a weapon or lowblow out of frustration in a long match.

[Blitz]

So wait, you don't specificaly need a Max Drive to transfer data right, just a compatible USB drive?

If so, can someone point me towards a list of compatible flash drives? I've got a feeling I can get one for cheaper than a Max Drive.

[Destor]

I've made 45 wrestlers so far. 4 of which are the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[Fignuts]

So wait, you don't specificaly need a Max Drive to transfer data right, just a compatible USB drive?

If so, can someone point me towards a list of compatible flash drives? I've got a feeling I can get one for cheaper than a Max Drive.


Nah, you stll have to usea AR Max.

[Blitz]

I have the AR Max disc. I just don't have the Max Drive itself.

[Fignuts]

Disc alone won't help ya. Need the drive.

[Blitz]

Yes. I am aware. This is what I'm asking. I thought I heard somewhere (perhaps in this very thread) that some regular flash drives can be used with the action replay, instead of having to have the Max Drive exactly.

[Fignuts]

Not that I've heard. Go check the FireProClub.com forums. You should be able to find all the info you need there.

[Destor]

Watch out tho Blitz, from what I've seen they're anal elitist over there.

[Destor]

BTY likes em tho...

[Fignuts]

Watch out tho Blitz, from what I've seen they're anal elitist over there.


I believe you are thinking of gamfaqs.

The Firepro community is one of the most approachable and helpful in all of gaming.

[Destor]

Bah

[Destor]

Use the word caw and watch what happens.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Use the word caw and watch what happens.

IT'S AN EDIT!! GAAAAHH IT'S AN EDIT!! THIS ISN'T SMACKDOWN YOU FOOL!!!!

:shifty:

[Jura]

lol Hard Gay vs HBK vs Mirko Crocop

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[Xero]

Blitz, not sure if you've gotten an answer, but yes, most 1GB and under flash drives WILL work. I personally use both a Staples 64MB flash drive and a 1GB Sandisk Cruzer Micro and have not had any problems with either. I've even heard of people using external hard drives and it working.

[Blitz]

Thanks Xero. Yeah actually tried using my external hard drive, but it didn't work

[ozzman6669]

I received this game as a late christmas gift (yesterday) but at christmas I received a PS3, so I sold the PS2. My question is: How do I use Edit Packs on PS3?????

[Xero]

I'm not 100% sure but I know they're releasing packs in both PS2 and PS3. I think it just involves loading the save from a memory device.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

With PS3, the save needs to be a .psv format.

Some saves are .psv at fireproclub.. Although most people are relying on someone with the ps2 to ps3 save transfer device to import it.

If you check Fireproclub, or gamefaqs, you can find easy steps on how to put the .psv save into your ps3. I have to run for now, but if you can't find it, let me know I'l tell you later.

[ozzman6669]

I will check this and give you some news.

[loopydate]

I - for the life of me - can't figure out the Logo Editor. A tutorial would make that so much easier.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

http://www.fireproclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3089

[Fignuts]

I made a pretty slammin tna logo the other day.

[McLegend]

Got this today. I like it, but its complicated. I'm to use to the SD vs Raw games.

[loopydate]

It's so hard to find movelists. There are some amazing edits at CAWS.ws, but so few of them have moves. Fireproclub isn't much help, and GameFAQs is no help at all. Is there a site I'm missing?

[Fignuts]

I just youtube the wrestler i'm making if I've never seen him, and watch a few matches. Gives me a good idea what to assign him.

[Xero]

So, who's still rocking FPR?

Just had a 4 on 4 USA vs Japan match. I had Hogan on the apron for all of two minutes in a 30 minute match, I tag him in, BAM, lariat from Stan Hansen Criticals him.

But yeah, greatest game ever.

[Indifferent Clox]

I had all the names changed over, but then I got SVR 2008 started playing and it erased all my data!

plus all my xenosaga data and I was like half way through that shit.

FUCKING WWE!

[Indifferent Clox]

seriously can't fucking beat a single match or get a single grapple move in season mode on anybody above level C. They should have made it where you could fix the difficulty level. Also don't like that you can't defend belts in season mode.

however I was in this match, eliminated one guy with a critical roll up (steve Corino) and then the dude put him in a critical submission tap out and then spinning suplexed my other dude (leonardo spanky) for the 3 all 3 falls happened with like 30 seconds left. It was pretty amazing.

Awesome

[Kenny]

seriously can't fucking beat a single match or get a single grapple move in season mode on anybody above level C. They should have made it where you could fix the difficulty level. Also don't like that you can't defend belts in season mode.

however I was in this match, eliminated one guy with a critical roll up (steve Corino) and then the dude put him in a critical submission tap out and then spinning suplexed my other dude (leonardo spanky) for the 3 all 3 falls happened with like 30 seconds left. It was pretty amazing.

Awesome

I got the game back when it came out and created a ton of people. I had some awesome, back and forth matches until I got good at the game. After you figure out the engine and get your timing down, it's pretty easy. I was dominating matches on level 10 and the game lost it's flavor. I'm looking for TNA Impact next.

[D Mac]

I bought an old used ps2 and picked this up. Amazing game. Keeps you busy for freaking hours. Gonna create my own league and shit.

[D Mac]

I downloaded an edit directly to the memory card by going online with my Action Replay Max and it has EVERY wrestler edited and EVERY caw slot filled. :eek:

WWE, WWF, WCW, ECW, NWA, TNA all that shit. :cool:

[redoneja]

http://www.fireprozomg.com/index.php?id=guides


For anyone interested in an in-depth analysis of the game. The first link (Jason Blackheart) explains how the health system and criticals work, as well as some other important aspects.

[U-Warrior]

zomg kojima is my new boy in this game. Had absolute CLASSICS against Kobashi and Tenzan.

[D Mac]

What belts do you have and who are the champs?

I have some but they're still vacant right now.

[Xero]

I have a world, held by either Brock Lesnar or Giant Bernard, Tag held by Taker and Kane and the Sim Championship held by Kurt Angle.

[Indifferent Clox]

My 3 main belts (IWGP (world title), Japanese (for Japanese wrestlers), and American) are held by Kawada, Tanahashi, and Sting. My lightweight belt is held by Shinnoue the guy in my sig. My tag belts are held by Misawa and Kobashi, and my jr. heavyweight tag are held by CIMA and Liger.

[U-Warrior]

I only use Belts in KOC, since in that game they wear them to the ring and have post match celebrations. Not to mention the actual belts of real promotions are in there.

That said, I have Heavyweight, Junior, U-30, and tag belts for all the promotions in there.

[D Mac]

Hulk Hogan beat Cena for the All Wrestling Championship.

[Fignuts]

Just thought I'd bump this and say that it is 2013 and I still play this more than any other game.

[DaveBrawl]

I probably would too if I still had my PS3, still have my copy since my brother didn't want the game though.

[itsmeJD]

I could never spend the time necessary to learn how to play this fucker. It sounded like an awesome game, but I ended up frustrated with it quickly. Sitting in its box somewhere in my office.

[Cool King]

So I've just read the Wikipedia page of Fire Pro Wrestling Returns and I can see that the article doesn't get read that often.



Character customization

Unlike a number of previous Fire Pro titles, Returns does not imitate rosters of American wrestling companies like World Wrestling Entertainment, although the AWG Organization in the game does have many characters that look just like various known legends from WWE, WCW, ECW, and TNA. Also, the game's hefty stockpile of template heads, bodies, clothes and accessories has allowed American wrestling fans to recreate many of their favorite wrestling superstars accurately with da greatest of ease, and make them available for download online. As reported by IGN, Returns supplies new customizing tools, such as a "Face Layer" feature that allows players to create a wrestler's face using multiple objects.[3] Hundreds of wrestler faces are available, including those of many historical wrestlers. Players can add up to two layers of facial accessories, including hair styles, visors, beards, helmets and tattoos. "One example starts with a base face, adds a mohawk... and finishes off with a colorful mask," IGN.com's review stated. Returns provides 1,649 wrestling moves to choose from when customizing a character and the game's engine allows you to give the character complicated logic instructions dictating how an AI version of the character behaves in a variety of situations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Pro_Wrestling_Returns

[Cool King]

Or maybe it does get read often but nobody has decided to fix it and Booker T is just being a dick and going around vandalising several articles.

[Xero]

Fire Pro Wrestling is the best. Especially the TAG TEAM MATCHES!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Teddylong.jpg/220px-Teddylong.jpg

[Mike the Metal Ed]

I tracked down a reasonably-priced copy on ebay from Spain a few years ago, asked the guy how much it'd cost to send it to the UK, he said he'd check the next day, then he sold it. :( I was gutted.

[Fignuts]

If you have a decent computer you can emulate it. That's what I've been doing. Makes downloading and transferring edits much more convenient.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

If you have a decent computer you can emulate it. That's what I've been doing. Makes downloading and transferring edits much more convenient.

Yeah, I think I still have the ROM, but I still wouldn't mind playing it on my actual PS2, for the decent D-Pad if anything.

[Fignuts]

Fuck 2k and the wwe games. I need a new Firepro, god damn it.

10 years later and I still play this a ton and have amazing matches. But over the years more and more wrestlers have debuted new moves that aren't in the game, that after a decade, it's finally starting to feel outdated.

Who the fuck owns the firepro franchise, and where can I find their family to threaten?