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Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-04-2004, 08:34 AM
Spanish police have confirmed that nine Leicester players have been arrested in relation to allegations of sexual assault against three women.
The Foxes do not have a game this weekend and had been taking a sunshine break in La Manga to prepare for a final push at Premiership survival.

One of the players was released on bail but the others remain in custody.

The Civil Governor's office in Murcia confirmed that the players were charged with "sexual aggression".

A statement by the Governor's office said: "The nine players were arrested after three German women complained to police at Alicante airport - as the women were about to fly home to Germany."

It is believed that the women are alleging that their hotel rooms at the La Manga Club were broken into and they were then assaulted.

The rest of the Leicester squad have flown home but it is understood that chief executive Tim Davies has flown out to Spain to join manager Micky Adams, who has remained in the country.

Leicester issued a club statement, which said: ""The club is aware that a number of players have been interviewed by Spanish police as a result of alleged incidents which took place during a club training camp in Spain.

"The club is co-operating fully with the authorities in their investigations but, as these investigations are still ongoing, is not in a position to make any further comment at this stage."

Mike the Metal Ed
03-04-2004, 08:47 AM
Football can go fuc</>k itself, I wash my hands of it.

Cactus Sid
03-04-2004, 09:39 AM
Just gotta wait for 100% proof, if they are guilty they are a bunch of bastards who deserve to rot in prison for a few years, if they are innocent, its a shame that football keeps being accused of things that aren't true.

We'll have to see

Mike the Metal Ed
03-04-2004, 09:49 AM
Just gotta wait for 100% proof, if they are guilty they are a bunch of bastards who deserve to rot in prison for a few years, if they are innocent, its a shame that football keeps being accused of things that aren't true.

We'll have to see

:y:/ Lets hope it Junior Lewis, Frank Sinclair, Alan Rogers...

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-04-2004, 09:50 AM
Junior Lewis is on loan to us :mad:

Razor Rybek
03-04-2004, 10:08 AM
These type's of story, true or untrue, will dog the beloved game forever as long as there's a newspaper/magazine willing to pay for the "EXCLUSIVE" story and the accusers are never brought to justice once the charges are dropped.

A quick buck, I think is the term i would use

Wengerland
03-04-2004, 11:24 AM
<s>I blame Junior Lewis</s>

Seriously the players need to start behaving properly,they're obviously doing things wrong on the pitch but this is just amazing,personally i would sack all found guilty and if that doesn't happen i will no longer hate Dennis Wise.

I don't truthfully beleive it because the club hasn't got any well-known thugs in the game and i should think that with most of the players being around 30 or over,that they wouldn't be so braindead.Also it could be a misunderstanding due to the languages or something,i think that only Freund could speak German.

Wengerland
03-04-2004, 11:46 AM
Football can go fuc</>k itself, I wash my hands of it.

Thing is that at the end of the season you'll be making a comment on the sports forum about Leicester staying up or going down.

Mr. Monday Morning
03-04-2004, 01:27 PM
Dock Leicester points :mad: (:$)

Dazz
03-04-2004, 01:32 PM
Yeah I reckon the best thing to do is ignore it till anything becomes of it, it's all too common now, that someone is acused of something because they are footballers.

The Mackem
03-04-2004, 01:36 PM
They're all overpaid twats.

The alleged stuff that Carlton Cole has done doesn't make good reading.

Wengerland
03-04-2004, 01:58 PM
Ok,Paul Dickov was one of four players alleged to have performed the assault, according to ITV news.Frank Sinclair was involved and i saw pictures of Keith Gillespie,James Scowcroft and maybe Nikos Dabizas being led to a police van,but i'm not sure what role they're supposed to have had.

Only sure on Matt Elliott and Danny Coyne,who have been arrested on suspicion of the Spanish crime of "not aiding someone in need".

Rob Ban Fan
03-04-2004, 02:36 PM
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">yeah, i thought i saw Dabizas in there too. I also heard Lilian Nalis mentioned but that was on a message board so take it for what its worth :o</font>

Mike the Metal Ed
03-04-2004, 05:31 PM
Thing is that at the end of the season you'll be making a comment on the sports forum about Leicester staying up or going down.

True, I'll always be a Leicester fan at heart, doubt I'll ever be all that interested again though.

Mike the Metal Ed
03-04-2004, 05:31 PM
But if this is true, I'm fuc</>king disgusted at the lot of em.

Danny Electric
03-04-2004, 06:19 PM
http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,7-1126224,00.html

Six Leicester City players have been detained following an allegation of sexual assault by three women, although two other players have now been released.
Sky Sports News have confirmed that the six players who will remain in custody on Thursday night are Paul Dickov, Matt Elliott, Lilian Nalis, Frank Sinclair, Keith Gillespie and James Scowcroft.

Four of the group have been accused of sexual assault and breaking and entering, one of assault and breaking and entering and one of breaking and entering and leaving a crime scene without offering assistance.

None of the six have yet been charged, but all will remain in custody overnight before appearing in court again on Friday morning at 8.30am (GMT).

Two further players, Danny Coyne and Nikos Dabizas, have now been 'provisionally released', but will continue to be investigated along with Steffen Freund who was also released earlier on Thursday.

Leicester manager Mickey Adams and chief executive Tim Davies broke the news to the media in Cartagena and will continue to stay in Spain while the case is investigated.

Davies has confirmed that every player involved in the matter has denied all of the allegations made.

Rob
03-04-2004, 06:57 PM
None of them will get charged. It will be another bullsh</>it story like it was the last time.

yianni
03-05-2004, 01:36 AM
Well at least they'll be going down with a bang. *boom boom*

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-05-2004, 04:15 AM
None of them will get charged. It will be another bullsh</>it story like it was the last time.

Don't know, it's seems different this time

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 05:12 AM
Don't know, it's seems different this time

Agreed, I was watching the press conference and the general vibe coming out of it was that SOMETHING has happened.

Mr. Monday Morning
03-05-2004, 06:36 AM
Gee, y'think maybe the fact it happened in another country is different?

Mr. Monday Morning
03-05-2004, 07:06 AM
Nicked from Sky:

Leicester City's chief operating officer Paul Mace has updated the current situation regarding the La Manga controversy at a press conference on Friday morning.

Mace insists the Premiership outfit will not attempt to "whitewash" the issue but stressed the players involved have all pleaded their innocence to all charges of criminal wrongdoing at the Spanish resort.

"Obviously it's a regrettable episode for Leicester City and possibly for football in general," he stated. "It is going to cause us some damage. We need to deal with that in the best way we can.

"It is a cause for serious concern."

Mace did open the briefing by admitting it was difficult to make any detailed comment while the Spanish authorities are undertaking their investigations into the alleged incidents, but felt compelled to respond to the media outcry to the allegations of sexual assault against three German women.

"I'd like to stress we view this situation with utmost seriousness," Mace affirmed. "The club has, and will, be conducting a full internal investigation into the issue alongside and not in conflict with the investigations by the Spanish authorities.

"We take it extremely seriously. The club has taken many strides in recent years to establish ourselves at the forefront of community relations in this community and national football as a whole and realise this is damaging to us.

"We have a duty of care and responsibility to the club and our players. We have been in regular contact with the players over the past 48 hours.

"They want to stress that they protest their innocence most strongly and vigorously on all counts of criminal accusations made against them in the past 24 hours. We've welcomed the news that three of the nine players helping the Spanish police with their enquiries were effectively cleared of the principle charges levelled against them.

"Our thoughts are with the six players detained overnight by the authorities. Tim Davies, our chief executive and Micky Adams are in Spain at the moment.

"Those players will be again appearing before a Spanish judge today to decide whether the accusations mean the players have a case to answer. In the short term, we wish to bring those nine players home as quickly as practically possible and concentrate on getting back to football and our game with Birmingham a week on Saturday.

"It's certainly not a good position for us at this moment in time and we won't shy away from that.

"We accept people querying the wisdom of going back out to La Manga but it's the premier sporting facility of its kind in Europe. We were welcomed back with open arms and, as far as we were concerned, it's a business trip.

"It was a decision made for footballing reasons but I appreciate a lot of people are drawing analogies and comparisons to what happened when we last visited La Manga four years ago."

The six players still detained in Spain are Paul Dickov, Matt Elliott, Lilian Nalis, Frank Sinclair, Keith Gillespie and James Scowcroft.

Alan Cork is taking training with the rest of the players but there is clearly a cloud hovering over the East Midlands club at the moment.

City were involved in another incident at La Manga four years ago when a fire extinguisher was allegedly set off by former Fox Stan Collymore.

Dazz
03-05-2004, 07:07 AM
Ok,Paul Dickov was one of four players alleged to have performed the assault, according to ITV news.

He will not get charged, garunteed, he has a wife, and is a top bloke. He is very quiet off the pitch. He was at the same hotel as us and spoke to my parents alot, I had a few convo's with him, and in the evenings he wasn't drinking, didn't go to the club or anything. And that was a week after the season finished, so he could have had a few drinks.

He only acts like a cock on the football pitch.s

Razor Rybek
03-05-2004, 09:03 AM
The thing is this time, the three women whom were Allegedly attacked were German, and unless they had a huge interest in English football, they would not have known that these men were players, for a top club. So they would have had no reason to think the accusation's would prove profitable if untrue.

PR, is right though, something just feels differnt with how this one's being handled.

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:23 AM
3 Players have been remanded in custody

Dickov, Gillespie and Sinclair

Rob Ban Fan
03-05-2004, 09:25 AM
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">well, 3 of them are going to be remanded in custody but no one has been named yet.

-edit- or maybe they have then :$!</font>

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:27 AM
They've been named according to Sky News

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:29 AM
Yeah, Dickov, Sinclair and Gillespie are definetly the ones remanded

The others have been released on bail, pending a further investigation

They've got 72 hours to decide whether or not to take charges further

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:31 AM
Ok, so basically, its gonna be over the next 72 hours what happens next, the 3 mentioned may be detained in Spain, they might not, we'll have to see

Rob Ban Fan
03-05-2004, 09:31 AM
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">not meaning to sound insensitive or whatever but are they going to be able to return to England to play or whatever if they do take the charges further?</font>

Dazz
03-05-2004, 09:32 AM
I dunno, it depends on what the Spanish rules are I suppose.

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:34 AM
<Font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">not meaning to sound insensitive or whatever but are they going to be able to return to England to play or whatever if they do take the charges further?</font>

It depends, they can choose to either retain the passports and keep them in custody or they can give them back and make them pay bail, they will be able to return to the UK but they have to return every 15 days as part of the bail conditions

That's what could happen

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-05-2004, 09:34 AM
The plot thickens

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:37 AM
Also, the 3 guys given "provisional liberty" (i.e they were bailed pending investigation) may not be allowed home

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-05-2004, 09:39 AM
Wouldn't they have to extradite them if they let them home???

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 09:40 AM
Ok more news

The guys who have provisional liberty, CAN come home, and must report to the Spanish Embassy in London on the 1st and 15th of each month

Dickov, Gillespie and Sinclair are back in prison, charged with Sexual Aggression, which can range from a mild form of assault, all the way to rape charges, the maximum penalty is 12 years

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-05-2004, 09:43 AM
Dickov, Gillespie and Sinclair are back in prison, charged with Sexual Aggression, which can range from a mild form of assault, all the way to rape charges, the maximum penalty is 12 years
The spanish don't fu</>ck about do they???

Dazz
03-05-2004, 09:45 AM
The spanish don't fu</>ck about do they???

LOL yeah I was about to say, they are much quicker at dealing with things then English popo.

Wengerland
03-05-2004, 11:16 AM
[...]they would not have known that these men were players, for a top club[...]

lol

Thanks for making us sound good though.:$

Wengerland
03-05-2004, 11:23 AM
I seriously can't imagine it,i mean Sinclair,Dickov and Gillespie are all in their or pushing 30.

What is it about Leicester and La Manga though?:( In fairness the Collymore incident over there is nothing compared to this.

Mike the Metal Ed
03-05-2004, 11:29 AM
lol

Thanks for making us sound good though.:$

He meant WERE players for top clubS.

Dickov - Arsenal
Sinclair - Chelski (back when they had English players)
Gillespie - errr.. Newcastle and Blackburn :shifty:

Wengerland
03-05-2004, 11:38 AM
In the context of his sentance it appears he is indicating Leicester as a top club imo.

The Mackem
03-05-2004, 02:26 PM
When I was reading the paper, I noticed that some of them were charged or whatever for not aiding the person being raped.

Rob
03-05-2004, 02:32 PM
Have they actually been charged?

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-05-2004, 02:46 PM
Have they actually been charged?
They've been remanded in custody but not charged as far as i'm aware

Rob
03-05-2004, 03:50 PM
Well until they are, I wouldn't get my panties in a twist.

Mike the Metal Ed
03-05-2004, 03:53 PM
When I was reading the paper, I noticed that some of them were charged or whatever for not aiding the person being raped.

Matt Elliott and Danny Coyne.

Cactus Sid
03-05-2004, 04:32 PM
They've been charged

Rob
03-05-2004, 05:43 PM
Not according to the AP they haven't.

They have been remanded in Spanish jail over the week and face charges but as of right now, they haven't been charged.

Danny Electric
03-06-2004, 03:28 AM
According to the news three have been charged, Sinclair, Dickov and Gillepsie.

Wengerland
03-06-2004, 03:30 AM
According to the news three have been charged, Duberry, Dickov and Gillepsie.

lol,Sinclair not Duberry. :o

Had to quote before you edited or something.

Danny Electric
03-06-2004, 03:35 AM
It's all lies, lol. Just thinking about the Leeds case and it's half eight in the morning, leave me alone. :)

Cactus Sid
03-06-2004, 07:20 AM
Not according to the AP they haven't.

They have been remanded in Spanish jail over the week and face charges but as of right now, they haven't been charged.

I read on the BBC and all the news channels had said they were charged, so I dunno

Rob
03-06-2004, 08:30 AM
Yeah in the Daily Record this morning, they say Dickov was charged so I dunno what's going on.

Razor Rybek
03-06-2004, 02:12 PM
In the context of his sentance it appears he is indicating Leicester as a top club imo.

ok so replace the word TOP with PREMIERSHIP and that settles that.

Dazz
03-06-2004, 02:55 PM
They've been charged

That means nothing.

Jody Morris got charged for rape. Then what happened?

Ian Huntley got charged for rape. Then what happened?


Being charged doesn't mean they are guilty. (Yes that does make sense, otherwise why did Morris and Huntley escape jail terms?)

Mr. Monday Morning
03-06-2004, 04:01 PM
Jody Morris was released by Leeds today actually

Wengerland
03-06-2004, 06:36 PM
Jody Morris was released by Leeds today actually

WTF,keep it in the Talk thread. :mad:

Mr. Monday Morning
03-07-2004, 09:06 AM
That post had context related to the post above :mad:

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-08-2004, 07:36 AM
Manager Micky Adams has confirmed that he is to stay at Leicester, despite the controversy that has rocked the club.



Captain Paul Dickov, Keith Gillespie and Frank Sinclair have been remanded in custody in Spain since Friday following sexual aggression charges.

But Adams said: "Firstly, I would like to make it clear that I am continuing as manager of Leicester City.

"It is true to say that I have thought long and hard about my situation as a result of recent events.

"However, I am determined to see the job through and do my very best for the club.

"Without wishing to pre-judge the criminal investigations and our own club investigation, I am deeply concerned about the actions of a minority of my players.

"I have spoken to them on many occasions about the need to conduct themselves properly on and off the pitch at all times.

"I have held a staff meeting at the training ground this morning to tell them all what I expect of them.

"The board of directors of the club will be heading up a full internal investigation, which has my full support.

"I would like to thank those fans who have pledged their support to myself personally and to the club in general.

"A great many people pulled together to save this club just over a year ago and, right now, all off those people have every right to feel let down. "It is the responsibility of the players and myself to do everything possible to restore their pride in this football club once again." <!-- E BO -->

Wengerland
03-08-2004, 11:40 AM
Yeah,apparantely he offered to resign aswell.Guess it's a good thing he's staying,though i did think that a few backs that we had only got Steve Cotteril in so he could know the players and become next boss,as i thought Adams would go to Southampton.Obviously not.:love:

Mr. Monday Morning
03-08-2004, 11:48 AM
I still think they should be docked points :shifty:

Wengerland
03-08-2004, 11:53 AM
:mad:

You Wanderers have already cost us 5 points.:foc:

Mr. Monday Morning
03-08-2004, 12:12 PM
This has nothing to do with Wolves

This is about justice :shifty:

Wengerland
03-08-2004, 12:15 PM
If we go down then we won't have the players to get back up,due to everyone being signed until the end of the season with the understanding of extensions if we stay up.:(

Cactus Sid
03-11-2004, 06:02 PM
They've been bailed

Wengerland
03-12-2004, 04:52 AM
Yeah for £195,000.

Can't claim to know much about the legal system,but that seems a bit steep.:-\

Paranoid Rattlesnake
03-12-2004, 11:07 AM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39880000/jpg/_39880256_playersairport_pa203.jpg


This is what they payed

Paul Dickov: 120,000 euros (£81,800)
Frank Sinclair: 60,000 euros (£40,900)
Keith Gillespie: 60,000 euros (£40,900)
Civil responsibility: 48,000 euros (£32,700)

Mike the Metal Ed
03-12-2004, 11:19 AM
Yeah for £195,000.

Can't claim to know much about the legal system,but that seems a bit steep.:-\

I think its the most Micky's spent all season.

Wengerland
03-12-2004, 04:02 PM
Well they definetly won't play tomorrow against Birmingham,that match should be weird though because we only have 16 available senoir pro's and Birmingham apparantely only have 14.Not to mention the chants the fans will give.