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Shawn
03-06-2004, 07:40 PM
Yes my friends i know who is gunna be in the NBA Finals this year. Some of you may be asking," How the **** do you know " . Well the truth is i dont. I just wanted to write 2 dramatic lines about how i did. Anyhow.
I didnt see a predictions thread about the NBA finals , and since we are getting to the home stretch i thought i would start one. One thing i would like to see is you guys elaborate a bit on your predictions. Give stats or reasoning. I hate 2 line posts that read like
pistons
lakers
:|
So here i go. First off the east. I'm from Indiana,but before people think i'm biased let me point some things out. First, All this talk about how a East team cant beat the West is BS. Theres 2 teams that can beat the west and thats INdiana and Detroit. There records prove me right. Indiana has the best record against the West in the league! Not only that they have the best recrod in the league , and guess what ! Ron Artest is back bitches! And he's good! Reggie miller is shooting the ball like he was in the early 90's and you know Reggie always shows up in the playoffs! Last year Reggie had the ankle injury that bothered him . So he was someone what of a no show. Also Indiana has what i think is the deepest bench in the league. Chroshere, Bender, Harrington, Johnson, Jones, K. Anderson, S. Pollard. These guys are some of the best bench players you can have and a couple of the would be starters on any other team. Kings bench is good but not as deep. The only team that stands in INdiana's way is detroit. GL detroit. Pistons are 0-3 against us this year. SO INdiana is my pick to come form the East.
Heres the West. I'm not gunna offer stats or records for my pick from the west. Let me start by saying. You know how about every 4 years or so every sport has that one team that gets in the finals/series/bowl. That people always look and think," Where they come from "? Well here it is. I think the Houston Rockets are going to the Finals. Yes i said it. The Rockets. For some reason everytime i watch this team play on tv i feel as if there one of the l33t teams in the league. Ming dominates shaq for some reason. Francis seems as if he's ready to be a huge player in the playoffs, and Mobely has stopped taking the stupid shots to get his 20 a night and is passing it into Ming. Also Ming just looks as if he blends with these guys now. It wasnt like that last year. They have beef up fromt with Kato and Ming. They have a decent bench. I see them getting on a roll and going to the Finals.
Indiana in 6. If Indiana gets home court throughout the playoffs they can beat any team in the west in 7 games.
DaveWadding
03-06-2004, 07:46 PM
Shut the f</>uck up, you stupid homer.
Shawn
03-06-2004, 07:50 PM
Could you elaborate on that?
DaveWadding
03-06-2004, 09:04 PM
Indiana is the best! Indiana has the best bench and the best record against Western Conference teams than anyone else! Did I mention some of the guys on our bench would be starting in other places? Detroit is no good against us! I mustered up all this bullshit about the Pacers, but I won't bother doing the same with my choice from the West! I just think the Rockets will make it. PACERS IN SIX!!!!! If they get home court they can handle anyone!!!"
Shut the fu</>ck up.
loopydate
03-06-2004, 09:14 PM
LOL.
Personally, I'd love a Pistons-T'Wolves final, but I imagine it'll be Pacers-Kings.
The Miz
03-06-2004, 09:38 PM
kings over pistons in 5
Jesus Shuttlesworth
03-07-2004, 01:01 AM
Pacers - Lakers
Lakers winnin it
Supreme Olajuwon
03-07-2004, 01:12 AM
I picked the Pistons in the beginning and I'll stick with it
There's always talk about West Coast big men and Sheed used to be one of them. Now him and Big Ben can be a force down low against a Shaq/Malone or Miller/CWebb/Vlade or whoever. I think the Kings will make it to the finals but I think Detroit matches up well against them. Billups is a good scoring point guard and Hamilton is a solid 2. Prince is obviously the weak link and Peja would just embarass him. Maybe Carmelo would have been a better choice eh Dumars?
But yeah Pistons in 7
BCWWF
03-07-2004, 04:56 PM
It will be some form of Kings/T-Wolves vs. Pacers/Pistons, so quit your moaning.
Shawn
03-07-2004, 05:29 PM
Indiana is the best! Indiana has the best bench and the best record against Western Conference teams than anyone else! Did I mention some of the guys on our bench would be starting in other places? Detroit is no good against us! I mustered up all this bullshit about the Pacers, but I won't bother doing the same with my choice from the West! I just think the Rockets will make it. PACERS IN SIX!!!!! If they get home court they can handle anyone!!!"
Shut the **** up.
Hey you ****ing retard. How bout you stop trying to be the cool witty computer guy and come up with something to offer to a thread yourself. I gave stats as to why i thought the pacers would win. I also gave my reasoning for why the rockets would get there you stupid cocksore. So shut the **** up and find another thread to type with a stick up your ass. Until you can come up with better reasoning for who you think is going to win. You should stay out of the conversation. Its obvious that you came here only to **** with someone who isnt as popular as your retarded ass cause if you hadnt then you would have already gave an opinion on the topic at hand. Lets see 2 posts from DaveCumwadding , and non of them have to do with the topic. I think your the one that should shut the **** up . Tard boy.
Shawn
03-07-2004, 05:34 PM
Stima i dont know about the Lakers getting there. Kobe is out for a month now. As i'm typing this there losing to the Nets without Jason Kidd, and on there home court. There somewhat old and they cant keep there 4 stars on the court at the same time. I think if there fully healthy there gunna get to the finals but i also think thats a big if.
Supreme i agree Pistons worry me alot. They defenetly beefed up with the pickup of Bluntman ( sheed ) . I've always loved his game. I think Pistons Pacers series in the East finals will be a classic.
BCWWF
03-07-2004, 05:48 PM
Shawn, don't worry about Dave, nobody cares about him anyway.
Shawn
03-07-2004, 05:57 PM
Shawn, don't worry about Dave, nobody cares about him anyway.
Nah man i'm not worried just pisses me off a little cause this is the second or third time i've seen someone try to make conversation and he posts something stupid.I just wanna talk B-ball.
BCWWF
03-07-2004, 06:01 PM
Well you're probably better off jumping on the Memphis bandwagon or something, because liking your home team is a crime to some of the guys here.
Shawn
03-07-2004, 06:04 PM
Believe it or not i love Memphis. Man if Kobe gets on that team there gunna be a force in the west. They remind me of the Kings when the Kings were trying to beat the Jazz for like 3 years. I dont think its a coincidence that Jason Williams was on the Kings and is now on the Griz. He brings excitement and hope to these young teams IMO. I hope the Griz make it to the PLayoffs. Griz v.s Kings in the first round will be fun.
Supreme Olajuwon
03-07-2004, 06:10 PM
Memphis could be a top 4 team in the East. An incredibly deep team
They have a better 12 man roster than most teams in the NBA
BCWWF
03-07-2004, 07:17 PM
I wish the NBA could have figured out a way to keep New Orleans in the East and move Memphis to the East. Milwaukee could go West, nobody would notice :shifty:
The Outlaw
03-07-2004, 09:04 PM
As i'm typing this there losing to the Nets without Jason Kidd, and on there home court.
Spoke too soon. :cool:
The Miz
03-07-2004, 09:20 PM
Well you're probably better off jumping on the Memphis bandwagon or something, because liking your home team is a crime to some of the guys here.
HAHA you are the biggest crybaby ever. the only reason anybody makes fun of you is because you act like minnesota teams are the greatest teams ever. do you have to bring this up in every topic?
Shawn
03-07-2004, 09:56 PM
Spoke too soon.
Sure did.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
03-07-2004, 10:21 PM
Celts beat the T'wolves 2niiiiite :cool:
The Dub
03-08-2004, 02:12 PM
Here are my picks.
With the East, I'm still not convinced that anyone in the East can beat New Jersey. It's really out of three teams: Indy, NJ, and Detroit. Most might count out NJ because people don't think they can possibly come out of the East yet again.
Shawn, I agree that Indy has a chance, but if what happened last season is any indication of how they will perform in the playoffs this year, you will be very disappointed. There was no way they shoud have lost to Paul Pierce last year. That's right, Paul Pierce beat Indy almost single-handedly in the playoffs last year. In order for them to reach the Finals, J.O. has to be dominant. He needs to take his game to another level. He has the support, but he has to make it a point to be "the man".
Detroit has always been an iffy team to me. Even with the addition of Rasheed Wallace, I still don't see them in the Finals. It's not like R. Wallace would give them such a great advantage at the 4. Given they make it far enough, he'll have to face either K-Mart or J.O. I just don't care for Chauncey Billups. Out of the three teams I mentioned, the Pistons would be my third pick.
Which leads me to my pick. I pick NJ to three-peat as East champs for a few reasons. They have not changed their team much, so the guys who were there when they went to the Finals the last two years are still there. Another reason: Jason Kidd. The only player I can think of who can dominate the game without scoring a single point. I could say Ben Wallace, but he doesn't get his teammates involved. Kidd may be the reason why Lucious Harris is still in the league. Their bench isn't that great, but I like Aaron Williams and Harris. If they had another proven shooter, they'd definitely come out of the East. Of course, it's also easy to go with the team who has won the East the last two years.
So my Eastern Conference Champion would be the New Jersey Nets.
On to the West.
First of all, I want to say who I definitely think will not win the West. That team is the Minnesota Timberwolves. There is just no way I would even think of picking a team with absolutely NO playoff success, no matter how much they have improved. The Spurs are on their asses, and even if they keep the 2 seed, they'll probably end up facing Houston, who I believe can beat them like they did the other night.
Shawn, I like the Rockets, but I don't believe that they are championship contenders just yet. Yao is starting to become the dominating force everyone was expecting him to be. Steve Francis hasn't wowed me, so I don't know about him being ready to become a top playoff performer. Cat Mobley is taking better shots. It's good now that Steve and Cat don't have to do all the scoring. I believe that their best off-season acquisition was Jim Jackson. He has finally found a home in Houston and his veteran experience could help them in the palyoffs, Mark Jackson as well.
Now on to the real contenders...
Having shown what they can do with a low seeding, you have to consider the Lakers. Even though it may seem like their plans of sending a baby-Dream team and Rick Fox out on the floor and totally dominate has been foiled, eveyone knows LA saves their best for the playoffs. If they are seeded high enough, they should be able to dispose of their first-round opponent without either Kobe or Malone, except if it is Houston. They want to get back to where they were the three previous seasons. You just can't count out LA, no matter how much you don't like them.
This year mey be Sac's best chance yet to finally make it to the Finals. With C-Webb back and Peja having an MVP-like season, they have the league's best record. That means homecourt advantage. That means having to go to one of the loudest arenas in the league, Arco Arena. They are not a good defensive team, but not as bad as Dallas, who I won't even consider (as much as I love them) because they traded Nick Van Exel, the man who burned the Kings last year. B.Miller is great. And you cannot forget Bobby Jackson. Vlade can foul the other team's center out with his great flopping ability. They have great chemistry and with two superstars on your team, yor chances are definitely good. Yes, I now consider Peja a superstar.
The San Antonio Spurs. This team has one superstar, but they have everything it takes to win it all again. They finally faced their fear of the Lakers last season, but I think LA is more talented. The Spurs cannot compare to some of the West contenders in terms of talent, but they win. They are only 2 games behind Minnesota, who doesn't have a chance no matter how good their REGULAR SEASON is going. They were able to catch Dallas last year when it looked impossible. I believe they are going to do the same to the Wolves, even though the task isn't nearly as daunting as it was last year. They have Robert Horry. Defense wins championships and they allow 84.6 points per game. If they continue to allow those kind of numbers, though unlikely, they could be headed back to the Finals.
Tough decision, but I think it is Sacramento's year. So my Western Conference Champions would be the Sacramento Kings.
A Finals matchup between the Kings and Nets would be interesting. The Nets play good defense, but I don't think they can stop the Kings' firepower. This is why I think they really needed a shooter or someone off the bench not named Rodney Rogers who can score. You give New Jersey Nick Van Exel and they win. Since they don't have him, I'll have to go with the Kings.
NBA Champion= Sacramento Kings
SuperSlim
03-08-2004, 02:14 PM
Detroit and Sacremento- Sacremento wins
The Dub
03-08-2004, 02:15 PM
It will be some form of Kings/T-Wolves vs. Pacers/Pistons, so quit your moaning.
You replace T-Wolves with Kings or Lakers, then your post will make sense.
TheJShow
03-08-2004, 02:20 PM
Toronto and Memphis - Toronto wins :shifty:
Supreme Olajuwon
03-08-2004, 03:28 PM
You replace T-Wolves with Kings or Lakers, then your post will make sense.
so it would say Kings/Kings
good call
Shawn
03-08-2004, 03:29 PM
Shawn, I agree that Indy has a chance, but if what happened last season is any indication of how they will perform in the playoffs this year, you will be very disappointed. There was no way they shoud have lost to Paul Pierce last year. That's right, Paul Pierce beat Indy almost single-handedly in the playoffs last year. In order for them to reach the Finals, J.O. has to be dominant. He needs to take his game to another level. He has the support, but he has to make it a point to be "the man".
They actually handled Peirce pretty well. He was great, but thats what great players do. Mcarty was the guy that was killing the pacers. I'm sure Stima will inform us on this because i think he's a boston fan. It was one of those series where the underdog got red hot and the favorite got Ice cold.
BCWWF
03-08-2004, 04:00 PM
Wolverine, you made good points and everything, but I am not counting on the Spurs passing the second round. The only team that should for sure be in the Western finals is the Kings. If Tony Parker is playing, nobody can stay with him, but if he does what he did last year, they won't make it out of the second round.
Your 100% ruling out of the Timberwolves is also laughable. Past playoff success means nothing when your second best guy is Troy Hudson. This year the Rockets will probably lose in the first round because there players aren't good enough, that doesn't mean they will lose again next year...and the year after that...etc etc. The Timberwolves teams that lost in the playoffs in the past included the likes of Joe Smith, Anthony Peeler, Rasho Nesterovic, Marc Jackson, Dean Garrett, a few others, they are all gone now. Now they have Sam Cassell (two time NBA champion, all-star this season), Latrell Sprewell, Michael Olowokandi, Trenton Hassell, and Mark Madsen (former NBA champion). To even compare those teams is rediculous.
I am not saying the Timberwolves will win the NBA finals, make the NBA finals, or even make the Western Conference Finals, but I can guarantee you that without a doubt they will win their first round of the playoffs this year. Kevin Garnett is easilly the best and most dominant player in the league, he has a supporting cast much more talented than Tim Duncan does, and in a SI coaches poll, they were voted as having the best zone defence in the league, no other team even got votes. So when it all comes down to it, the Wolves have a good defense and a player who matches and betters Tim Duncan. I hate the Spurs by the way.
The Show Off
03-08-2004, 06:58 PM
New Jersey Nets versus Los Angles Lakers
And it will suck so bad. I hate Jason Kidd, his retarded son and his wife beating ways. And I can't complain about the Lakers because I'm a Yankee fan, and the Lakers are the basketball Yankees. However in basketball if you have the most talent on your team you win. I can't wait until Shaq retires because I'm sick of this shit.
Rain Man
03-08-2004, 07:03 PM
Lakers-Pacers Lakers in 7
BCWWF
03-09-2004, 12:27 AM
The Lakers don't have all the talent. The Kings and Mavericks are both much more talented and they have better chemistry. Unless the Lakers go back to early season form when Malone gets back, they aren't going anywhere fast.
DaveWadding
03-09-2004, 12:49 AM
I can guarantee you that without a doubt they will win their first round of the playoffs this year.
I am quoting this for future reference, in case the need to laugh at you arises later.
BTW, if you "hate the Spurs" then you can't be objective...which makes your opinions worthless. :y:
The Dub
03-09-2004, 01:02 PM
Wolverine, you made good points and everything, but I am not counting on the Spurs passing the second round. The only team that should for sure be in the Western finals is the Kings. If Tony Parker is playing, nobody can stay with him, but if he does what he did last year, they won't make it out of the second round.
Your 100% ruling out of the Timberwolves is also laughable. Past playoff success means nothing when your second best guy is Troy Hudson. This year the Rockets will probably lose in the first round because there players aren't good enough, that doesn't mean they will lose again next year...and the year after that...etc etc. The Timberwolves teams that lost in the playoffs in the past included the likes of Joe Smith, Anthony Peeler, Rasho Nesterovic, Marc Jackson, Dean Garrett, a few others, they are all gone now. Now they have Sam Cassell (two time NBA champion, all-star this season), Latrell Sprewell, Michael Olowokandi, Trenton Hassell, and Mark Madsen (former NBA champion). To even compare those teams is rediculous.
I am not saying the Timberwolves will win the NBA finals, make the NBA finals, or even make the Western Conference Finals, but I can guarantee you that without a doubt they will win their first round of the playoffs this year. Kevin Garnett is easilly the best and most dominant player in the league, he has a supporting cast much more talented than Tim Duncan does, and in a SI coaches poll, they were voted as having the best zone defence in the league, no other team even got votes. So when it all comes down to it, the Wolves have a good defense and a player who matches and betters Tim Duncan. I hate the Spurs by the way.
Jud Beuchler was an NBA champion. So was Bill Wennington. So was Dickie Simpkins. What's your point? Would adding these guy make them better? No, because they"ll be in their warmups the entire game. Being on a championship team doesn't necessarily mean that you're any good. I can see mentioning Sam Cassell because he actually contributed to Houston's championship runs. Mark Madsen was just a crowd-favorite bench warmer. You should have mentioned Sprewell's playoff experience, having been to the Finals and all, having been a contributor to the Knicks' playoff run.
You say that my ruling them out is laughable, yet you don't even have any real faith that they can win it all. I just know they won't. Second round at best. You're dreaming if you think they will get any further.
I'm tired of you saying how dominant Kevin Garnett is and how he matches and betters Tim Duncan. He can achieve dominant status when he starts winning in the playoffs. Regular season stuff doesn't count and it's not even a guarantee if they'll win the Midwest. The Spurs are only two games behind with 15 or so games left. They were able to steal the Midwest from Dallas last year. With Minnesota at the 3 seed , they could end up playing Memphis or even Dallas. At the 4, They could play LA. The only teams you could put a safe bet on them beating is Denver and Memphis. No, I wouldn't rule out Houston. Yao Ming is a pretty dominant player, too. Or at least he's getting there and it funny that now he is coming into his own, playing his best ball near the playoffs.
Don't hate the Spurs, man. The Wolves are a good team, but you have to become a great team by winning in the postseason. The 1993-94 Seattle SuperSonics had the best record in the league at 63-19. Were they a good team? Yes. Were they a great team? Hell no. They lost to an 8th seed, 42-40 Denver team and they are probably Seattle's most disappointing team ever.
I'll give them props when they win and only when they win. And didn't I tell you about mentioning Trent Hassell?
The Outlaw
03-09-2004, 01:02 PM
Yeah, this year is the only year he has a point saying the T'Wolves will win, ya know, since they have more than KG
But, whether or not they WILL win, we will find out soon enough.
BCWWF
03-09-2004, 04:48 PM
What about Trenton Hassell? That he is one of the top defensive guards in the league this season?
BCWWF
03-09-2004, 04:50 PM
I am quoting this for future reference, in case the need to laugh at you arises later.
BTW, if you "hate the Spurs" then you can't be objective...which makes your opinions worthless. :y:
Ladies and gentlemen!!! Its a miracle!! Dave has got ambition in his life! Someone get the champaigne!
BCWWF
03-09-2004, 05:07 PM
Basically, your whole theory stinks. You need to have experience to win in the playoffs is basically what you are saying, so basically no new team can ever win in the playoffs. With this logic, the Jazz should still be trying to make a run to beat the Bulls in the NBA Finals. Wait though, those teams have changed, they no longer have the same players and are no longer good, so we won't be seeing them in the NBA Finals anytime soon.
Two years ago, the Nets made the NBA Finals for the first time in their franchise history, they had no playoff experience, how does that work with this logic? The Spurs hadn't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999, but they took it all last year. Of course a team like Memphis isn't expected to go through the first round of the playoffs this year, that doesn't rule them out of going to the second round next year.
Both the Timberwolves and the Spurs totally changed their core players over the offseason. The Spurs added Rasho, Turkolu, and Ward as their biggest additions in the past year, none of those guys have proven that they can win a championship, especially Rasho who was a major part in all of the Timberwolves losses of the past. The Timberwolves, on the other hand, added Cassell, Sprewell, Olowokandi, Madsen, Johnson, Hoiberg, Oliver Miller, and Hassell. To judge a team who has changed all but four of their players from last year is cursed is just ignorant. The Timberwolves you are seeing in the playoffs is a team that you have never seen before, simple as that.
The whole key to the Spurs success will be Tony Parker, who more than anyone else being discussed in this topic at all has yet to proove himself in the playoffs. If Parker can play at his peak, he is almost unstoppable, the key word there is the if.
DaveWadding
03-09-2004, 05:20 PM
The Timberwolves, on the other hand, added Cassell, Sprewell, Olowokandi, Madsen, Johnson, Hoiberg, Oliver Miller, and Hassell.
I can't argue Spree and Alien, but Kandi, who's had his ass glued to the IL ALL YEAR? Mark Madsen and E.J who are scrubs? Hoiberg and Hassell who warmed the BULLS bench last year? Are you fuc</>king kidding me?! BTW, how big is Oliver now? 400 lbs? 450?
BCWWF
03-09-2004, 05:31 PM
Kandi is back for good now, but he is pretty much worthless at offense. The reason he is out there is because of his presence on defense, judging by his five blocks the other night, I think thats working out just fine.
Just wait until the playoffs, because unless you have seen the Timberwolves play a lot, you have no idea what is Trenton Hassell. He can't score worth, well you Dave, but he holds opposing shooters to such low percentages. Against Sacramento, Peja was shooting like 29% with two air balls on the night. Paul Pierce was like 10 for 23 or something the other night. Hassell can guard any of the best SG and SF's out there, whether its Kobe, AI, Pierce, Peja, put Hassell out there and he will slow them down all night.
BCWWF
03-09-2004, 05:33 PM
I wasn't saying that all those guys were great players either, compare the Lakers third string center to Ollie Miller, or Fred Hoiberg. The only team that I would say is deeper is Memphis, because everyone on Minnesotas bench can play.
The Dub
03-11-2004, 10:54 AM
Basically, your whole theory stinks. You need to have experience to win in the playoffs is basically what you are saying, so basically no new team can ever win in the playoffs. With this logic, the Jazz should still be trying to make a run to beat the Bulls in the NBA Finals. Wait though, those teams have changed, they no longer have the same players and are no longer good, so we won't be seeing them in the NBA Finals anytime soon.
Two years ago, the Nets made the NBA Finals for the first time in their franchise history, they had no playoff experience, how does that work with this logic? The Spurs hadn't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999, but they took it all last year. Of course a team like Memphis isn't expected to go through the first round of the playoffs this year, that doesn't rule them out of going to the second round next year.
Both the Timberwolves and the Spurs totally changed their core players over the offseason. The Spurs added Rasho, Turkolu, and Ward as their biggest additions in the past year, none of those guys have proven that they can win a championship, especially Rasho who was a major part in all of the Timberwolves losses of the past. The Timberwolves, on the other hand, added Cassell, Sprewell, Olowokandi, Madsen, Johnson, Hoiberg, Oliver Miller, and Hassell. To judge a team who has changed all but four of their players from last year is cursed is just ignorant. The Timberwolves you are seeing in the playoffs is a team that you have never seen before, simple as that.
The whole key to the Spurs success will be Tony Parker, who more than anyone else being discussed in this topic at all has yet to proove himself in the playoffs. If Parker can play at his peak, he is almost unstoppable, the key word there is the if.
It's not my theory that stinks, it's your interpretation of it. For me to say no new team can win in the postseason would be stupid, but that's not what I'm saying, though you may want me to think so. I've seen teams that have never won advance, but I still don't think the Wolves will be one of those teams this year. Experience is a plus. It's not a prerequisite to winning. Having been deep into the playoffs, I think, is an advantage because it is nothing new to a team that has been there.
The Spurs haven't done anything spectacular in the playoffs since 1999. It's amazing that you would even fix your hands to type such stupidity. How can you talk about SA's playoff failures when the Wolves' entire playoff history is based on failure? Two of those seasons they didn't win, they did lose to the eventual champion and the other Tim Duncan was injured and they lost to Phoenix in the first round. At least they lost in the first round without Duncan.
Memphis will be good in about three or four years, no sooner. I see Houston going to Round 2 before I see Memphis there. I can even see Houston beating the Wolves, just like they did last Friday.
The Spurs only replaced David Robinson and added some bench players. They still have the same core. The Wolves have changed their core considerably. Well, KG was their core before this season. The Spurs added Nesterovic, Turkoglu, and Charlie Ward and none of these guys have proven that they can win a championship? You say that like these guys were former franchise players. Besides, individual players don't win titles, teams do. You talk about theories that stink. With this logic, let's say the Spurs add a player like Jermaine O'Neal. Surely this guy has never won a championship, so.....No, I really don't see your point. Among the players added by the Wolves, only Cassell and Madsen have won titles and only Cassell was an actual contributor, as was stated in a previous post. I don't understand how you tried to construe my words as if I said you need experience to win in the playoffs, yet you are saying that certain players the Spurs added haven't won a championship. That entire third paragraph was a pointless ramble. Didn't the Spurs add Robert Horry,a 5-time champion, also? That doesn't matter because you think he sucks anyway, don't you?
I guess Tim Duncan won't have anything to do with the Spurs trying to repeat. Tony Parker, more than anyone discussed in this topic has yet to prove himself in the playoffs? Oh my God. I just can't believe you would say something like that. You don't believe that yourself. Well, KG is being discussed more than any other great player in the entire NBA abbout having yet to prove himself in the playoffs. You prove yourself by winning. I just can't undesrtand why you would say these asinine things.
Yeah, the Wolves are a team I've never seen before. So what? The Lakers are a team I've never seen before either. You make it sound like it's a warning or something.
The Dub
03-11-2004, 10:56 AM
I can't argue Spree and Alien, but Kandi, who's had his ass glued to the IL ALL YEAR? Mark Madsen and E.J who are scrubs? Hoiberg and Hassell who warmed the BULLS bench last year? Are you fuc</>king kidding me?! BTW, how big is Oliver now? 400 lbs? 450?
Thank you.
thuganomicalcrippler
03-25-2004, 11:45 AM
The Kings! They WILL do it this time. They WILL NOT choke. The Rock WILL wrestle more than once a year.......
Gertner
03-25-2004, 12:57 PM
The Pistons would get owned if they played in the west.
MY JAZZ ARE GONNA MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!! Sloan for coach of the year!!!
anways.
Wolves over Pacers in 6
AlphaBean
03-25-2004, 02:57 PM
I can't argue Spree and Alien, but Kandi, who's had his ass glued to the IL ALL YEAR? Mark Madsen and E.J who are scrubs? Hoiberg and Hassell who warmed the BULLS bench last year? Are you fuc</>king kidding me?! BTW, how big is Oliver now? 400 lbs? 450?
Hassell holds down everyone, EJ held down DUNCAN the other night, Madsen is no scrub, he's a hard-nosed, tough player who most teams would love to have on their bench.
Pig Miller came here from the Globetrotters. He's way underrated, and we picked him up mid-season floating adrift in Free Agency. When most East teams have no Centers, the Wolves are pretty set there. :y:
And Hoiberg, while streaky, can destroy you when he's streaking.
Gertner
03-25-2004, 10:45 PM
um. pig miller is Anthony Miller, not Oliver Miller.
Supreme Olajuwon
03-25-2004, 10:51 PM
I hate Kobe as much as the next person but its pretty impressive that he basically gets off a plane and then almost drops 40 on the best team in the NBA
AlphaBean
03-26-2004, 01:04 PM
:shifty:
Shouldn't Oliver Miller be pig, when he's 500 pounds?
Ninti the Mad
03-26-2004, 02:04 PM
Speaking of the Pistons owning the West, they lost to the Spurs last night. Hehe.
AlphaBean
03-26-2004, 02:52 PM
****ING PISTONS
Cant' even beat the Spurs, what the deuce? The Spurs have to lose every game from now on for the Wolves to stand a chance :mad:
Kris P Lettus
03-26-2004, 02:58 PM
Lakers handed us our asses...
Sad...
Specially after a great win over Houston...
We're still going all the way this year mofos..
Kings/Hornets
:shifty:
Ninti the Mad
03-26-2004, 06:37 PM
If Sacramento faces the Lakers, they may not make it.
Kris P Lettus
03-26-2004, 06:38 PM
LIES!!1!
:mad:
Shawn
03-26-2004, 07:30 PM
BTW Indiana beat Dallas without O'Neil.
DaveWadding
03-26-2004, 10:02 PM
Hmmm, maybe that's because no one on Dallas plays Defense...
The Miz
03-27-2004, 12:24 AM
bigger story is that philly beat dallas without iverson. :|
and dave, steve nash and eduardo najera play defense.
DaveWadding
03-27-2004, 12:27 AM
bigger story is that philly beat dallas without iverson. :|
and dave, steve nash and eduardo najera play defense.
Najera plays how much though?
and Nash can't guard 5 guys at once....
The Miz
03-27-2004, 12:49 AM
yeah i know, i'm just saying guys like nash and najera shouldve be given a bad rap on D just cuz the rest of the team sucks
DaveWadding
03-27-2004, 12:52 AM
Agreed. My bad.
FacelessBum
03-27-2004, 01:32 AM
lol
The Rockets lost to the Suns a couple of days ago.
SAD.
Every team has their day. The regular season doesnt mean shit except for home advantage in the playoffs.
Corkscrewed
03-27-2004, 02:54 AM
Sorry guys. Lakers have the title wrapped up, especially after destroying the two best teams in the West. They play like this and it'll be 2001 again: Lakers will not lose another game (okay, so they lost to the Phillies in game 1, but that was an obvious fluke).
:D
Kris P Lettus
03-27-2004, 05:05 AM
Sorry guys. Lakers have the title wrapped up, especially after destroying the two best teams in the West. They play like this and it'll be 2001 again: Lakers will not lose another game (okay, so they lost to the Phillies in game 1, but that was an obvious fluke).
:D
I bet you're also a Yankee's fan...
:foc:
stfu
Corkscrewed
03-27-2004, 03:06 PM
Nope. Angels fan. I despise the Yanks.
BCWWF
03-27-2004, 08:06 PM
The Timberwolves are damn lucky right now. We have lost so many games in the past few weeks that San Antonio could be like 5 games ahead of us, but somehow we are still winning the division. I don't think there will be much movement in the rest of the regular season.
Heyman
03-27-2004, 08:25 PM
Pacers - Lakers
Lakers winnin it
Corkscrewed
03-28-2004, 03:59 AM
The Timberwolves are damn lucky right now. We have lost so many games in the past few weeks that San Antonio could be like 5 games ahead of us, but somehow we are still winning the division. I don't think there will be much movement in the rest of the regular season.
*see 3rd through 5th seeds*
*see also race for #8 spot*
BCWWF
03-28-2004, 03:10 PM
I meant in those seeds. My bad.
BTW, I hope Cleveland makes the playoffs in the East instead of Boston or Philly.
AlphaBean
03-29-2004, 11:03 AM
Sorry guys. Lakers have the title wrapped up, especially after destroying the two best teams in the West. They play like this and it'll be 2001 again: Lakers will not lose another game (okay, so they lost to the Phillies in game 1, but that was an obvious fluke).
:D
If the refs continue to lick the Lakers' balls, then the Lakers will repeat again. I mean, the refs have never called anything on Shaq or Kobe, or Malone for that matter. Payton gets the Technicals and such, but he's a Laker, so why not? Even Bill Walton, the biggest Lakers lover in the world, admitted the Officiating was horrid in the Wolves game.
Reminds me of the playoffs last year. HMM!
BCWWF
03-29-2004, 07:41 PM
I didn't want to say anything, but from what I watched the Refs were calling a bunch of shit on the Timberwolves and not the Lakers. Not trying to make excuses, the Wolves played like shit and would have lost regardless.
Supreme Olajuwon
03-29-2004, 09:46 PM
lol @ C Webb getting booed by his home crowd
The Miz
03-29-2004, 09:51 PM
LOL webber. what a crybaby.
Shawn
03-29-2004, 11:03 PM
How is Webber a crybaby? He's putting up 18ppg 9reb and 5 asts a game. He coulda bolted after all the success he had there but he chose to stay and now the fans boo him?? I got news for you Kings fans out there. Brad Miller disapeared for us in the playoffs last year. You will need Webber. Dont burn that bridge idiots.
Supreme Olajuwon
03-29-2004, 11:14 PM
He is a crybaby because he says he wants to be traded and he's gonna leave because the fans dont respect him. And you know since he's a liar and all and since the Kings havent been very good since he came back Im pretty sure the fans have a good reason to boo.
AlphaBean
03-30-2004, 03:17 PM
If he's playing well but the team isn't gelling, it's part of the ****ing game, you know? The Wolves can't buy a win since their whole roster got healthy. Too much depth. They've won TWO STRAIGHT against scrubs, so maybe it's time they turned it around, but you understand too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the soup.
They shouldn't boo C-Webb if the ENTIRE TEAM can't win.
They know they can win without him, but they'll be much better if they can win with him.
BCWWF
03-30-2004, 06:37 PM
The Kings, Spurs, and Timberwolves have all been struggling as of late, but they got themselves in good enough position so that it's not affecting their playoff seedings. If one of those teams can get their games together by then, things could be snazzy. Otherwise, unfortunately I think the Lakers are the hottest team as of right now.
FacelessBum
04-01-2004, 12:52 AM
Spurs ALL UP ON THE Kings
AlphaBean
04-01-2004, 10:46 AM
Imagine if the Kings keep losing and end up facing the Lakers in the 1st or 2nd round? That would rule. Kings may be slumping, but vs the Lakers YOU KNOW IT WILL BE ON.
Ninti the Mad
04-01-2004, 10:48 AM
Not that many games for them to end up 7th/8th place.
I think the Kings are overrated myself and they need a reality bitchslap.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
04-01-2004, 01:02 PM
Below .500 Eastern Confrence team will have home court in the playoffs
Something needs to be done to fix this
BCWWF
04-01-2004, 06:57 PM
change it to a North and South divisions.
Also swap Memphis with Milwaukee and Chicago with one of the Texas teams.
Crimson
04-01-2004, 09:28 PM
The north/south thing is retarded. That is just the way things are now, you cant just shake up the whole league and make a drastic change just because the competition is lobsided. In a few years it will even itself out. Although I wouldnt mind seeing the Grizz in the East tearing shit up and gettin a 1 seed, I don't see anything happening.
BCWWF
04-01-2004, 11:11 PM
Northeast:
-New Jersey
-New York
-Boston
-Philadelphia
-Washington
-Toronto
North Central:
-Minnesota
-Indiana
-Detroit
-Milwaukee
-Chicago
Northwest:
-Sacramento
-Portland
-Seattle
-Golden State
Southeast:
-Cleveland
-Miami
-Orlando
-Atlanta
-Charlotte
South Central:
-San Antonio
-Dallas
-Houston
-New Orleans
-Memphis
Southwest:
-L.A. Lakers
-L.A. Clippers
-Phoenix
-Denver
-Utah
Please tell me that that would not be sweet. Even though I know its not going to happen, what if.
Corkscrewed
04-02-2004, 04:20 AM
Um... you do know that the league is realigning next year, right? And the Southeast will be weak... or would have been until Miami got HOT. Now Miami will win it.
Anyway, in response to the person who cried foul over the refs... gimme a break. The Laker D went ballistic and destroyed the Wolves, who played like crap. That NOT the refs giving the Lakers the game. In their last five games during this streak, the Lakers have been playing like the scary team no one wanted to face 20 games into the season (before everyone got hurt). The way we're playing, with defense tightening up and the offense gelling through unselfish play (thank you Malone!), no one can beat us, and I'm serious. I haven't seen this high level of play since 2001, when the Lakers ended the season on a tear then won 10 games in a row in the playoffs, lost a fluke, then cleared out Philly in the Finals by winning games 2 through 5.
I've been saying (not on here, but I have been saying) the Kings' weakness this year was their lack of defense. They had a great chance last year, since they had a great balance and nice chemistry, but then Webber got hurt. This year, the Kings are doing a great Dallas Mavs imitation. However, Defense wins championships. That's been proven time and time again in the playoffs. The Lakers and Spurs have great defenses. Houston has a great defense. Minnesota has a nice one. Heck, even Memphis could stand a better chance than Sacramento and Dallas in the playoffs if it weren't for the Griz's inexperience.
As for Webber... he has a right to be angry. He's been with the team since they really did play like queens. He's been THE GUY for the Kings for so long, and now the fans boo him? Geez, that's just spoiled. They ought to appreciate his commitment, because regardless of what you think about him, he HAS been a great player for the team.
And this is coming from a die-hard Lakers fan.
AlphaBean
04-02-2004, 11:45 AM
Um... you do know that the league is realigning next year, right? And the Southeast will be weak... or would have been until Miami got HOT. Now Miami will win it.
Anyway, in response to the person who cried foul over the refs... gimme a break. The Laker D went ballistic and destroyed the Wolves, who played like crap. That NOT the refs giving the Lakers the game. In their last five games during this streak, the Lakers have been playing like the scary team no one wanted to face 20 games into the season (before everyone got hurt). The way we're playing, with defense tightening up and the offense gelling through unselfish play (thank you Malone!), no one can beat us, and I'm serious. I haven't seen this high level of play since 2001, when the Lakers ended the season on a tear then won 10 games in a row in the playoffs, lost a fluke, then cleared out Philly in the Finals by winning games 2 through 5.
I've been saying (not on here, but I have been saying) the Kings' weakness this year was their lack of defense. They had a great chance last year, since they had a great balance and nice chemistry, but then Webber got hurt. This year, the Kings are doing a great Dallas Mavs imitation. However, Defense wins championships. That's been proven time and time again in the playoffs. The Lakers and Spurs have great defenses. Houston has a great defense. Minnesota has a nice one. Heck, even Memphis could stand a better chance than Sacramento and Dallas in the playoffs if it weren't for the Griz's inexperience.
As for Webber... he has a right to be angry. He's been with the team since they really did play like queens. He's been THE GUY for the Kings for so long, and now the fans boo him? Geez, that's just spoiled. They ought to appreciate his commitment, because regardless of what you think about him, he HAS been a great player for the team.
And this is coming from a die-hard Lakers fan.
When people play the Lakers, any contact is a foul. Shaq elbows you in the face then dunks on you? Foul. Shaq punches you in the face before swatting you? Offensive foul. Shaq and Malone have been throwing elbows for years, and they're the ONLY TWO PLAYERS in the NBA who get away with it! On the same team!
Then take into account Kobe Bryant, who is allowed to take five steps on a layup.
Are you going to tell me the Refs aren't biased against the Lakers? You gonna say they weren't biased in the playoffs last year, either? o_O
BCWWF
04-02-2004, 12:25 PM
And nowhere did I blame the refs for the Timberwolves loss in that game, fyi
downsider
04-02-2004, 01:39 PM
Simply put
LAKERS WILL WIN IT ALL!!!!!
AlphaBean
04-02-2004, 01:43 PM
And nowhere did I blame the refs for the Timberwolves loss in that game, fyi
:shifty:
I never saw the game... I just heard that the refs took Cassell out of the game. Dunno.
BCWWF
04-02-2004, 01:53 PM
:shifty:
I never saw the game... I just heard that the refs took Cassell out of the game. Dunno.
Well stuff like that too, but they just didn't come out to play that night.
Mikey
04-03-2004, 10:01 AM
Simply put
LAKERS WILL WIN IT ALL!!!!!
:nono:
The Miz
04-03-2004, 12:20 PM
lakers moved into first last night. :|
kings and mavs in the first round. :D
Sensei Of Mattitude
04-03-2004, 12:58 PM
Northeast:
-New Jersey
-New York
-Boston
-Philadelphia
-Toronto
North Central:
-Minnesota
-Indiana
-Detroit
-Cleveland
-Chicago
Northwest:
-Sacramento
-Portland
-Seattle
-Golden State
-Milwaukee
Southeast:
-Washington
-Miami
-Orlando
-Atlanta
-Charlotte
South Central:
-San Antonio
-Dallas
-Houston
-New Orleans
-Memphis
Southwest:
-L.A. Lakers
-L.A. Clippers
-Phoenix
-Denver
-Utah
To make all divisions equal, Washington is in the SouthEast, just like the NHL. Cleveland goes to the North Central and Milwaukee or Minnesota should go to the NorthWest to balance it out.
But it would be sweet.
DaveWadding
04-03-2004, 01:15 PM
wow...those Centrals are TOUGH :eek:
Ninti the Mad
04-04-2004, 09:37 PM
GUESS WHO JUST TOOK OUT THE LAKERS WINNING STREAK
OH YEA WHATS UP NOWWWWW
Corkscrewed
04-05-2004, 03:53 PM
Damn.
Well, Spurs just vaulted into the lead for most likely to win the NBA Finals.
1. Spurs
2. Lakers
3. Kings
3. T-Wolves
5. Pistons
6. Pacers
7. Mavs
8. Grizzlies
9. Nets
10. Rockets
AlphaBean
04-06-2004, 10:39 AM
Wolves tied with Kings? :(
Wolves better BEAT the Kings if they don't want to be disrespected so horribly.
Christ. From favorites to tied with a team that has won like twice in the last month. :nono:
MAdoubleT
04-06-2004, 12:53 PM
The Spurs will repeat.
AlphaBean
04-06-2004, 03:26 PM
Rasho will get dominated. :p
He's the reason the Wolves couldn't get out of the first round. Ha!
MAdoubleT
04-07-2004, 11:29 AM
Rasho will get dominated. :p
He's the reason the Wolves couldn't get out of the first round. Ha!
I was reading through this thread and you and BCWWF both like to point the finger at Rasho Nesterovic. Try blaming KG for not upping his level of play when it matters. Who on Minnesota will dominate him? I hope you don't think Ervin Johnson or Michael Olowokandi will. Neither are any better than Rasho Nesterovic. Kandi is overrated. Ervin Johnson just stinks.
BCWWF
04-08-2004, 07:21 PM
Rasho is trash. He has no emotion, he just stands there and comes up with 10 points and 6 rebounds a game. Sure, Kandi shoots too much, but his presence on defense next to Garnett's is much better than Rasho's. The Timberwolves are much better with their scoring options being Cassell, Sprewell, and Szczerbiak than Szczerbiak, Rasho, and Hudson, which is exactly the reason we are so much better this year.
You can not blame Garnett for not being able to lead his shitty teams out of the first round considering he is the only reason his team got to the first round in the first place (every year prior to this year) and they have been underdogs in every playoff series they have ever played.
Plain and simply, Rasho sucks and he won't play any role at all in the Spurs playoffs. Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili are the guys that will take them places, just like Garnett, Sprewell, and Cassell are the guys who are going to take the Timberwolves places.
AlphaBean
04-09-2004, 06:59 AM
Garnett's statistics are all markedly better in the Playoffs than in the regular season, and everyone likes to say he chokes in the big games.
Just because the Timberwolves as a team choke doesn't mean that KG does.
Spre has been in the finals and Sam has won them. I think that is going to make the difference. The Wolves had all young players who have known nothing but first-round defeats, and Flip doesn't know any better either.
Flip doesn't have the ability to get his players up, but he has two very hungry veterans who do. If they fail, and the Wolves can't up their play -- and we KNOW for a fact KG WILL up his play bigtime -- then the Wolves will just sputter again.
However, the Wolves have it in them to beat anyone, and they now have the depth playing on all cylinders... once the Playoff injuries start, the Wolves will be the best equipped to handle it.
BCWWF
04-09-2004, 05:17 PM
Well, they are in first place right now :lol:
AlphaBean
04-09-2004, 06:35 PM
Don't laugh, you and I both know that doesn't mean much. :nono:
Ninti the Mad
04-09-2004, 06:56 PM
I'll laugh if the Wolves choke on the first round.
AlphaBean
04-09-2004, 08:07 PM
It would be quite humorous, really.
Especially if we face the Nuggets. We quite thoroughly thrash them often.
BCWWF
04-09-2004, 08:47 PM
I'm confident that we could beat Portland in seven games if thats what it comes to.
FacelessBum
04-10-2004, 02:28 AM
Portland is no challenge.
Hopefully, the Spurs dont have to face Memphis. lol
With tonight's win, that is the Lakers job now. HAHA
PS. Suns beat Kings ROTFLMAO
Chris Webber ****ed up their chemistry. NICE.
FacelessBum
04-10-2004, 02:30 AM
I'm not saying that Portland is a pushover by that statement. They just dont seem to have enough bench depth to really get far in the playoffs.
AlphaBean
04-10-2004, 12:37 PM
I'm confident that we could beat Portland in seven games if thats what it comes to.
They destroyed us twice in a week. It might be tough. :-\
Crimson
04-10-2004, 02:58 PM
I hope Memphis upsets someone in the 1st round. The way Sactown is playing , it might be them. The Western playoffs should be very exciting, in the East it's pretty much a 3 team race with the Pacers,Pistons and nets with their experience.
I still like the Lakers/Pistons in the finals.
BCWWF
04-10-2004, 03:13 PM
I thought that above all the Nets would win the East again just because of history sakes, but after Jason Kidd's injury I really am doubting that now.
AlphaBean
04-10-2004, 04:04 PM
KMart needs to realize he's playing for an overpriced contract, so he better become Playoffs MVP and get like 40 RPG.
Ninti the Mad
04-11-2004, 07:18 PM
Kings/Spurs/Lakers all tied by being 1 1/2 game behind Minnesota.
Let's see if the Spurs can take the lead with a win against the Clippers tonight.
hehe lookin good
BCWWF
04-11-2004, 07:40 PM
They need more than one win to take the lead, and Minnesota isn't going to lose to Denver or Memphis, so don't worry.
BCWWF
04-11-2004, 08:56 PM
So much for the Lakers big momentum push into the playoffs
DaveWadding
04-11-2004, 08:57 PM
They need more than one win to take the lead, and Minnesota isn't going to lose to Denver or Memphis, so don't worry.
*lays his $$ on Denver*
BCWWF
04-11-2004, 09:55 PM
Lol, theres something else you were supposed to bring back at me, but I forget what it was.
AlphaBean
04-12-2004, 10:39 AM
Wolves will be IN Memphis, and I don't know how much faith I have in them not choking... I'll be a pessimist in this case, since I've been a Wolves fan for so long. :$
The Miz
04-12-2004, 03:47 PM
utah's gonna sneak in. jerry sloan = coach of the year. to think he even contended with a team with that little talent.
BCWWF
04-12-2004, 07:46 PM
I'll agree. Hubie Brown did some real big things, but he had better players and a deeper team to begin with.
Ninti the Mad
04-13-2004, 11:06 AM
utah's gonna sneak in. jerry sloan = coach of the year. to think he even contended with a team with that little talent.
LMAO sure
MAdoubleT
04-13-2004, 12:07 PM
Denver is in.
The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 12:38 PM
When people play the Lakers, any contact is a foul. Shaq elbows you in the face then dunks on you? Foul. Shaq punches you in the face before swatting you? Offensive foul. Shaq and Malone have been throwing elbows for years, and they're the ONLY TWO PLAYERS in the NBA who get away with it! On the same team!
Then take into account Kobe Bryant, who is allowed to take five steps on a layup.
Are you going to tell me the Refs aren't biased against the Lakers? You gonna say they weren't biased in the playoffs last year, either? o_O
lol hey buddy check out that Laker game with the Kings. That will totally null any argument you just made.
Everyone takes 5 steps in the NBA and doesnt get called for a walk, its normal now.
AlphaBean
04-13-2004, 01:00 PM
So what happened? Did the refs finally call the Lakers for something? Good.
Anyway, ****! San Antonio faces um, is it the Nugs in the final game of the season? A team that can take the night off to rest up for the Playoffs, but San Antonio wants this game more than anything. I hope the Nuggets decide they'll have a better chance against Minnesota so they play their asses off against the Spurs. :mad:
The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 01:45 PM
lol, Vlade flops like normal, Kobe, Shaq, and DG have 2 fouls in the first quarter. SHaq in the first 3 minutes or so
Dont be mad cuz the Lakers put your team out of the playoffs
DaveWadding
04-13-2004, 04:26 PM
DENVER, MOTHERFU</>CKERS! I told you so.
The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 04:58 PM
DENVER, MOTHERFU</>CKERS! I told you so.
LOL
Did you see MCamb talking the stuff to Christie?
He is pretty nassty
Jesus Shuttlesworth
04-13-2004, 04:59 PM
Lakers do get more calls then anyone else in the league
Especailly now since all "Superstars" get a ton of calls..and since they got a ton of superstars now..
The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 05:03 PM
There is only one team that comes to mind that got more calls than any other team
And I think we all know who that was
BCWWF
04-13-2004, 08:31 PM
On ESPN.com they had the power rankings, and had San Antonio on top because they are going out of the season on a 7 game win streak or something...maybe they should look at Minnesota, who is up in the standings and looks to go out just as hot as the Spurs. People these days, ugh.
Speaking of getting in the faces, did you see Raja Bell (I think it was) push Sprewell last night? He got up in the face fo shizzle my nizzle.
Timberwolves just can't lose to Memphis, otherwise its the three seed.
The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 09:14 PM
Spree would mess him up
AlphaBean
04-13-2004, 11:21 PM
Lakers get more calls than the Bulls, because 4 superstars get 4x as many calls as 1... even if it was Jordan, who never had to dribble the ball...
The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 11:24 PM
rofl
ahaha
Crimson
04-14-2004, 12:32 AM
Bad calls or no bad calls are you saying the Lakers won those championships because of the refs? Yes they do get calls at times, but so does any other team on their home floor.
Looks like Dallas is set for the 5th seed. They will be out in 5 if it's the Lakers or Spurs.
The Outlaw
04-14-2004, 01:55 PM
Bad calls or no bad calls are you saying the Lakers won those championships because of the refs? Yes they do get calls at times, but so does any other team on their home floor.
Looks like Dallas is set for the 5th seed. They will be out in 5 if it's the Lakers or Spurs.
Yeah it was obviously the refs fault that Robert Horry's shot went in to beat the Kings in game 6 two years ago
Which by the way was the best 7 game series I have ever seen
AlphaBean
04-14-2004, 05:10 PM
Bad calls a) Give you that slight advantage that will kill a run, will break the spirit of a team trying to upset, or will take a team's star player out of the game early, negating any chance they had. Bad calls can reeeeeeeeeeeeeally make a difference. Say Shaq gets fouled out in the 3rd quarter. That's an entire quarter where another team can pound the paint. Now, if you called everything that occurs, Shaq would be fouled out after 15 minutes. That's three quarters without Shaq, and without Shaq, the Lakers don't win.
So am I saying that if they didn't get calls, would they not have won? I have no idea. What I'm saying is we will never know, because there has never been a time when the Lakers didn't get the calls, at least since they got swept by the Spurs like five years ago.
And if I remember correctly, something shady did happen before that 3-pointer by Horry. There was a bad call or a no-call that set up for it. And the Kings took it to the Lakers the closest ever, and that's because they flopped like crazy to use the Refs against the Lakers. Other teams could learn from that.
Then of course last year, when the Spurs took it, but that was because Kobe was out, and Shaq couldn't get any calls because the NBA loves Tim Duncan, and TD took it to Shaq hard.
The Outlaw
04-14-2004, 07:45 PM
LOL what
If they called everything that occurs, there would be no team left to play. You dont make much sense
Shaq uses his body to his advantage. But he does the same thing KG does, he does the same thing that Duncan does, he does the same thing that Jermaine O'Neal does. The difference is he is a lot stronger and bigger so everybody bitches and moans about it, mainly the ones that got put out in the first round by the Lakers ;)
YES, you finally made a point. They FLOPPED. Mainly Vlade Divac. If the refs haven't figured out that he has made a living out of flopping they need to be evaluated and reevaluated.
AlphaBean
04-14-2004, 08:00 PM
LOL what
If they called everything that occurs, there would be no team left to play. You dont make much sense
Shaq uses his body to his advantage. But he does the same thing KG does, he does the same thing that Duncan does, he does the same thing that Jermaine O'Neal does. The difference is he is a lot stronger and bigger so everybody bitches and moans about it, mainly the ones that got put out in the first round by the Lakers ;)
YES, you finally made a point. They FLOPPED. Mainly Vlade Divac. If the refs haven't figured out that he has made a living out of flopping they need to be evaluated and reevaluated.
They flopped because the refs don't see the fouls.
Shaq throws elbows like crazy. Shawn Bradley does it and is always called. Shaq does it, and someone hits his elbow with their face... what is called? DEFENSIVE FOUL.
KG doesn't do that shit, man!
Ninti Ishkur
04-14-2004, 08:49 PM
The Wolves better lose tonight. :mad:
Wit that said, the Spurs better win tonight. :mad:
:mad: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Outlaw
04-15-2004, 12:19 AM
They flopped because the refs don't see the fouls.
Shaq throws elbows like crazy. Shawn Bradley does it and is always called. Shaq does it, and someone hits his elbow with their face... what is called? DEFENSIVE FOUL.
KG doesn't do that shit, man!
LOL
Nah, Shaq bumps them with his body and it just shows a lot more than someone like KG, JMaine, etc.
Shawn Bradley has elbows?
AlphaBean
04-15-2004, 12:47 AM
The Wolves better lose tonight. :mad:
Wit that said, the Spurs better win tonight. :mad:
:mad: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:love:
I was on the phone having a serious conversation with my girlfriend, like, trying to sound serious and upset... then I saw on the news "Midwest division champions, #1 seed" and I yelped in happiness and was like "*ahem* uh... yeah... sorry..."
Crimson
04-15-2004, 01:02 AM
Hey Bean ,remember when the Nuggets upset the 1 seeded Sonics back in 94? Only this time it's gonna be Carmelo hugging the ball under the basket at the end of game 7. :)
Well actually, i'd give Denver a shot if it was still a 5 game series...but it should still go 6.
The East 1st round games suck, none of the series interest me except maybe the Hornets/Heat. And the Knicks i think will upset the Nets, and everyone will be on Isiah's jock.
AlphaBean
04-15-2004, 03:54 AM
Starbury can't do shit. Kidd will make him his BITCH.
And the Nuggets I ain't skerred of. Hassell held Melo down before, hopefully he can do it again.
I'm more afraid of Camby, who, I might add, is the big guy who will be crying like a baby if they win. Cause he's ugly like Mutombo.
Anyway, I like the Nugs. Andre Miller is a stud, and Camby used to be my favorite player. I want the Wolves to pick him up.
The putback dunk he used to do all the time was so pretty. That's why I loved the Camby/Spree/LJ Knicks so much. Houston, meh. It's all about Camby Spree and LJ. :yes:
Ninti the Mad
04-15-2004, 09:38 AM
This is the most exciting playoff year in awhile.
It's anyone's game.
I can even see those 8 seeds putting up a big challenge.
Saturday marks the beginning. :love:
Kid Robb
04-15-2004, 10:49 AM
OUT COME THE WOLVES
Game on :D
The Icon of Elisim
04-15-2004, 12:45 PM
I hear that Denver just put Anderson, Barry and Camby on the il. Can't see them putting up much of a fight now
The Outlaw
04-15-2004, 12:46 PM
Kid Robb you bloody wanker
The Show Off
04-15-2004, 02:34 PM
First Round
1. Minnesota Timberwolvers vs. 8. Denver Nuggets
Minnesota Timberwolves in 5
1. Indiana Pacers vs. 8. Boston Celtics
Indiana Pacers in 5
2. Los Angles Lakers vs. 7. Houston Rockets
Los Angles Lakers in 4
2. New Jersey Nets vs. 7. New York Knicks
New Jersey Nets in 6
3. San Antonio Spurs vs. 6. Memphis Grizzlies
San Antonio Spurs in 6
3. Detroit Pistons vs. 6. Milwaukee Bucks
Detroit Pistons in 4
4. Sacremento Kings vs. 5. Dallas Mavricks
Sacremento Kings in 7
4. New Orleans Hornets vs. 5. Miami Heat
Miami Heat in 7
Second Round
1. Minnesota Timberwolves vs. 4. Sacremento Kings
Sacremento Kings in 6
1. Indiana Pacers vs. 5. Miami Heat
Miami Heat in 6
2. Los Angles Lakers vs. 3. San Antonio Spurs
San Antonio Spurs in 7
2. New Jersey Nets vs. 3. Detroit Pistons
Detroit Pistons in 5
Confrence Finals
3. San Antonio Spurs vs. 4. Sacremento Kings
San Antonio Spurs in 6
3. Detriot Pistons vs. 5. Miami Heat
Detroit Pistons in 5
NBA Finals
(Western Champion) San Antonio Spurs vs. (Eastern Champion) Detriot Pistons
San Antonio Spurs in 7
The Dub
04-15-2004, 03:10 PM
First Round
1. Minnesota Timberwolvers vs. 8. Denver Nuggets
Minnesota Timberwolves in 5
1. Indiana Pacers vs. 8. Boston Celtics
Indiana Pacers in 5
2. Los Angles Lakers vs. 7. Houston Rockets
Los Angles Lakers in 4
2. New Jersey Nets vs. 7. New York Knicks
New Jersey Nets in 6
3. San Antonio Spurs vs. 6. Memphis Grizzlies
San Antonio Spurs in 6
3. Detroit Pistons vs. 6. Milwaukee Bucks
Detroit Pistons in 4
4. Sacremento Kings vs. 5. Dallas Mavricks
Sacremento Kings in 7
4. New Orleans Hornets vs. 5. Miami Heat
Miami Heat in 7
Second Round
1. Minnesota Timberwolves vs. 4. Sacremento Kings
Sacremento Kings in 6
1. Indiana Pacers vs. 5. Miami Heat
Miami Heat in 6
2. Los Angles Lakers vs. 3. San Antonio Spurs
San Antonio Spurs in 7
2. New Jersey Nets vs. 3. Detroit Pistons
Detroit Pistons in 5
Confrence Finals
3. San Antonio Spurs vs. 4. Sacremento Kings
San Antonio Spurs in 6
3. Detriot Pistons vs. 5. Miami Heat
Detroit Pistons in 5
NBA Finals
(Western Champion) San Antonio Spurs vs. (Eastern Champion) Detriot Pistons
San Antonio Spurs in 7
Can't argue witht the end result, but there is a lot of crap in between.
KingofOldSchool
04-15-2004, 06:03 PM
LOL @ The Pacers losing to the MIAMI HEAT.
Crimson
04-16-2004, 12:15 AM
LOL @ the Spurs beating the Lakers :lol: :shifty:
I hear that Denver just put Anderson, Barry and Camby on the il. Can't see them putting up much of a fight now
LOL, ummm no. The regular season roster is totally different than the playoff roster. They put those three on the IL last night because they weren't going to risk getting them injured in a meaningless game. The three guys who were activated for last night (Skita, Pope, Trepagnier) won't be on the playoff roster.
Ninti the Mad
04-16-2004, 09:39 AM
I like The Show Off's way of thinking.
The Show Off
04-16-2004, 04:15 PM
LOL @ the Spurs beating the Lakers :lol: :shifty:
When the San Antonio Spurs play the Los Angles Lakers that might as well be the NBA Final, cause whomever wins what are the champs. That being said my prediction on this particular game is a bit of wishful thinking on my part.
BCWWF
04-17-2004, 03:24 AM
I don't know if you just failed to notice, but the Lakers just aren't that good this year. They were much better off with just Kobe and Shaq. They have been so streaky this year, they played real well early when all four guys were healthy, and they played real good after Malone came back, and now they are fading off again. They aren't bad, but quit talking them up like nobody can beat them because we have all seen so often this year, people can, they will be out after the second round, guaranteed.
BCWWF
04-17-2004, 03:26 AM
Not to be biased or anything, but the West is between the Wolves and the Spurs, period.
AlphaBean
04-17-2004, 12:41 PM
I don't know if you just failed to notice, but the Lakers just aren't that good this year. They were much better off with just Kobe and Shaq. They have been so streaky this year, they played real well early when all four guys were healthy, and they played real good after Malone came back, and now they are fading off again. They aren't bad, but quit talking them up like nobody can beat them because we have all seen so often this year, people can, they will be out after the second round, guaranteed.
That's the type of cockiness I hear from Yankees and Lakers fans... Minnesota fans aren't quite ready to be that cocky... :-\
The Outlaw
04-17-2004, 03:52 PM
Not to be biased or anything, but the West is between the Wolves and the Spurs, period.
lol
Crimson
04-17-2004, 04:29 PM
I understand why Minnesota fans are so optomistic and think they can beat anyone. But this is the playoffs people, it's the BEST OF SEVEN. The Wolves should consider themselves lucky they are in opposite brackets of the Lakers and Spurs cuz they actually have a chance at the west finals. But, if both teams healthy they won't be able to beat either team. But we'll see what happens for all I know the Rockets will upset the Lakers .
AlphaBean
04-17-2004, 05:02 PM
I understand why Minnesota fans are so optomistic and think they can beat anyone. But this is the playoffs people, it's the BEST OF SEVEN. The Wolves should consider themselves lucky they are in opposite brackets of the Lakers and Spurs cuz they actually have a chance at the west finals. But, if both teams healthy they won't be able to beat either team. But we'll see what happens for all I know the Rockets will upset the Lakers .
Wolves don't have a chance in a best of seven? :rolleyes:
With the depth they have now, :foc: to Troy Hudson, they can ball with anyone, especially since they're on a hot streak. Remember, they finished with the best record in the NBA.
Pacers can suck it, they're facing a sub-500 team in the freaking playoffs. East is nothing. West is what matters, the Wolves were the worst... despite having a losing streak.
It's not quite so cut and dried anymore. KG has help, and KG is MVP. Spre's been in the finals, and Sam has won it all. We'll see. :y:
KingofOldSchool
04-17-2004, 06:37 PM
Wolves don't have a chance in a best of seven? :rolleyes:
With the depth they have now, :foc: to Troy Hudson, they can ball with anyone, especially since they're on a hot streak. Remember, they finished with the best record in the NBA.
Pacers can suck it, they're facing a sub-500 team in the freaking playoffs. East is nothing. West is what matters, the Wolves were the worst... despite having a losing streak.
It's not quite so cut and dried anymore. KG has help, and KG is MVP. Spre's been in the finals, and Sam has won it all. We'll see. :y:
Pacers > Timberwolves
Suck on that.
Ninti the Mad
04-17-2004, 11:38 PM
Spurs.
Spurs.
Spurs.
HeartBreakMan2k
04-18-2004, 12:36 AM
I'm a huge Knicks (Steph) fan and Heat (Rafer "Skip to my Lou" Alston) fan but sadly, I don't see them getting out of the second round, I'll be happy with getting out of the first. :'(
KingofOldSchool
04-18-2004, 12:52 AM
I didnt even know the Heat were even in playoff contention until I saw the brackets and saw that they actually made the damn playoffs.
HeartBreakMan2k
04-18-2004, 12:59 AM
Okay, I should probably make a correction to my post. I'm a huge Stephon Marbury fan and will pull for whomever he plays for. I've always been a Heat fan, but having Skip just made me like them that much more cause he's my favorite player (based soley off of And 1, he's slowly adjusting to the league.
AlphaBean
04-18-2004, 01:26 AM
Pacers > Timberwolves
Suck on that.
Not when I know where "that" has been. :nono:
BCWWF
04-18-2004, 02:54 AM
The Miami vs. Milwaukee game would have been huge had Milwaukee not messed themselves
The Outlaw
04-18-2004, 12:02 PM
I didnt even know the Heat were even in playoff contention until I saw the brackets and saw that they actually made the damn playoffs.
Well I mean with the East having what, 3 teams with winning records?
That might be why ;)
KingofOldSchool
04-18-2004, 12:59 PM
Still I knew about all of the other teams like the Bucks, Knicks, and Celtics. I guess the Heat just slipped by me. :-\
The Outlaw
04-18-2004, 01:01 PM
Ahhh well
I like the Pacers and Heat
Hard to like a New York team :meh:
Bucks are meh, Celtics are too
Ninti the Mad
04-18-2004, 02:13 PM
Shaq is dominant11!!!1
<img src="http://cache.nba.com/media/lakers/soneal_355_040417.jpg">
Yao owns his ass.
The Rockets should've won and I believe this series has the biggest chance for an upset.
KingofOldSchool
04-18-2004, 02:44 PM
LOL
This guy I work with thinks there is a conspiracy against the Lakers, because Kobe Bryant has been accused of rape. :lol:
The other day he said that the refs defeated the Lakers last Sunday and not the Kings. :naughty:
The Outlaw
04-18-2004, 03:44 PM
LOL
This guy I work with thinks there is a conspiracy against the Lakers, because Kobe Bryant has been accused of rape. :lol:
The other day he said that the refs defeated the Lakers last Sunday and not the Kings. :naughty:
Well...
The game was dodgy but LOL @ conspiracy theory
Yao: 10 points, 11 rebounds
Shaq: 20 points, 17 rebounds
Please tell me where Yao owned him? :?:
AlphaBean
04-18-2004, 04:27 PM
Shaq is dominant11!!!1
<img src="http://cache.nba.com/media/lakers/soneal_355_040417.jpg">
Yao owns his ass.
The Rockets should've won and I believe this series has the biggest chance for an upset.
Suck that elbow, Yao! They will never call me for this! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
The Outlaw
04-19-2004, 01:01 AM
Suck that hand check, Shaq! I get credited for a block for that as well bitch!
Translate that into Yaoanese ;)
The Icon of Elisim
04-19-2004, 01:04 AM
Yao: Shaq no! Don't look into the ball!
Shaq: My precioussss...
Crimson
04-19-2004, 01:28 AM
What is up with these blowout game 1's?
Dwayne Wade still thinks he's carrying Marquette into the final four.
AlphaBean
04-19-2004, 01:39 AM
OH MAN.
I wish I had cable. :'(
Gollum and KG dominate!
Cept uh, KG, sub-40% shooting. :nono:
Kid Robb
04-19-2004, 09:29 AM
Kid Robb you bloody wanker
Just quietly D, 1-0 :D
Ninti the Mad
04-19-2004, 11:59 AM
Yao: Shaq no! Don't look into the ball!
Shaq: My precioussss...
lol
KingofOldSchool
04-19-2004, 04:09 PM
Artest = Defensive MVP :cool:
Have it Big Ben.
AlphaBean
04-19-2004, 06:01 PM
Look for Artest to be the X-Factor in game 2.
:shifty:
BCWWF
04-19-2004, 11:39 PM
I hope Artest doesn't get suspended, that Boston coach just sounds like a huge douche bag, did anyone else see his comments on ESPN.com? Just face it you piece of shit, your team is like .450 and you have no chance of winning the series, quit being a bitch and try getting someone good in the draft, maybe that can save your shitty team. Why don't you get Kevin McHale too, a good fuc</>kin' GM.
The Outlaw
04-20-2004, 11:10 AM
Oh my god
Artest's suspension is the biggest bunch of bullshit since...them taking away Sura's triple double :p
Yeah pretty bonehead call IMO
Just quietly D, 1-0 :D
I have summoned the Australian police for you :nono: :shifty:
*remembers that message from you and John* :D
AlphaBean
04-20-2004, 03:59 PM
Someone recently got fined money for a bigger thing than "getting off the bench." Poor Artest will be suffering for his attitude for the rest of his career.
BCWWF
04-20-2004, 07:13 PM
What are the details of his suspension? I hope just one game.
I didn't see the play, but from what I hear he basically stood up, took a few steps, and went back. Big deal. I understand if that is against the rules, but I think the NBA would have let that slip, since it really wasn't anything. The thing that pissed me off was how Boston's coach took a trip down Broadway and acted like he was appauled that Artest did that. If he didn't do that, Artest probably wouldn't have gotton fined. Maybe if it was Phil Jackson doing it to Mike Bibby in the Western Finals, but Boston in the first round? They don't have a chance of winning. Just accept it and don't hurt the only team in the East that has a chance to win the NBA title. It's hurting themselves to hamper the Pacers.
BCWWF
04-20-2004, 07:17 PM
Random thing:
As of the late season and early playoffs, I began to take liking to both the Heat and the Bucks. I like some of the players that the Heat has, and think they are one of the cooler teams in the East now.
My question: I know in the past the Heat have always had really poor attendance, I was just wondering if that was the same during the regular season this year? I am not talking playoffs, does anyone know how well the Heat ranked in attendance?
Kris P Lettus
04-21-2004, 12:51 AM
C-Webb already has a Double Double..
Almost a Triple Double..
10 points
10 assist
9 reb
2 mins left in second quarter...
GODLY
:cool:
Shawn
04-21-2004, 03:30 AM
Oh yah can you feel it Stima...Boston shoulda had this one..Then that depth on the bench kicked in just like i said on the very first post in this topic. Take that Celtic Pride!
Now we get Artest back ;D Hurts dont it..That was a bunch of fooking bs that they suspended Artest.. Richard Jefferson did the exact same thing in the Knicks Jersey game and they didnt even raise a eyebrow. Complete Bull shit. You dont suspend star players for petty shit like that. Fine him? Sure..Suspend him? WHAT THE FOOK. Complete and utter bull shit. The NBA should be ashamed of thereselves. God forbid that KG comes off the bench when Cassel get put on his back. Then they'll have to suspend the MVP and if they dont. Indiana will be on a WarPath. People here in Indy on the talk radio shoes are FURIOUS. You'd think some Hippie pissed on there cornfield.
AlphaBean
04-21-2004, 04:01 AM
Na, KG wouldn't do that. He'd just come out and swat every one of your shots, steal all your passes and dunk on you a few times if you were to do that.
:love:
Ninti the Mad
04-21-2004, 09:15 AM
Minnesota is going down. :mad:
BCWWF
04-21-2004, 08:10 PM
Does anybody love when KG jumps about three feet in the air and just catches people's shots?
FacelessBum
04-22-2004, 01:17 AM
lol
Bucks 92
Pistons F 88
KingofOldSchool
04-22-2004, 01:19 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
AlphaBean
04-22-2004, 01:47 AM
Does anybody love when KG jumps about three feet in the air and just catches people's shots?
:love:
See, he should start playing aggressive defense -- the kind that gives up a lot of points, but gives him like 15 swats per game. :yesyes:
The Outlaw
04-22-2004, 02:39 AM
:love:Spree:love:
Jesus Shuttlesworth
04-22-2004, 02:44 AM
Yea Celtics suck this year...I dont care
Last year all the Pacers fans where no where to be seen on here..when the Celtics were actually DECENT and they beat them
Danny Ainge is ****ing up the team big time
Shawn
04-22-2004, 06:22 AM
Danny Ainge is a douche. But Indiana shoulda won last year.. to bad Isaih thomas dont know how to coach
AlphaBean
04-22-2004, 02:10 PM
:love:Spree:love:
I started regretting owning his jersey for a while... but I knew he couldn't stay dormant in the playoffs.
See how in the 3rd, Sam and KG kept shooting up bricks, but every time Spree got it, he scored?
:mad: Always go with the hot hand, damn it!
The Outlaw
04-22-2004, 02:11 PM
Spree is the man
Ive been a fan since his college days, even though he has a tendency to lose his temper :$
AlphaBean
04-22-2004, 02:13 PM
He's old now, he's smooth as silk... and twice as inconsistent!
anyway, KG with a triple double... 22 boards, suckas. Averaging 21 for the playoffs so far isn't he? Something like that. Aw yeah.
The Outlaw
04-22-2004, 02:18 PM
Yeah he is very talented at the roundball
AlphaBean
04-22-2004, 02:42 PM
He's definitely one of the top 20 players in the West. :yesyes:
The Outlaw
04-22-2004, 03:41 PM
No doubt about it
BCWWF
04-22-2004, 09:06 PM
Its funny how 22-20-10 was a bad game for KG.
All I can say is why weren't the Nuggets prepared for Sprewell? It was obvious that Cassell wasn't going to put up 40 points again and in the paper all they talked about was getting Spree more touches. It seems like they focused all their energy on Sam and KG and weren't ready for Spree.
PureHatred
04-22-2004, 09:11 PM
He's definitely one of the top 20 players in the West. :yesyes:
Are you saying KG is one the top 20 in the West? Because that's insane..you're not giving him near enough credit. He's one of the top 3 or 4 players in the NBA, period.
AlphaBean
04-22-2004, 10:26 PM
Are you saying KG is one the top 20 in the West? Because that's insane..you're not giving him near enough credit. He's one of the top 3 or 4 players in the NBA, period.
:lol:
The Outlaw
04-23-2004, 01:16 AM
Its funny how 22-20-10 was a bad game for KG.
What in the holy hell are you talking about
AlphaBean
04-23-2004, 01:57 AM
What in the holy hell are you talking about
KG was broke. He kept missing shots... if he wasn't broke, he'd have scored like 50. That's what.
Anyway, 20 defensive boards = NBA playoff record!
The Outlaw
04-23-2004, 12:09 PM
Oh I didnt know haha
I just saw Spree lighting it up, wasnt paying attention to KG :$
AlphaBean
04-23-2004, 03:32 PM
It'd be like *miss* *miss* *miss* *pass to Spree* *THREE POINTER* *KG misses again* *cassell misses* *SPREE WITH THE LAYUP*
Just awesome. If all three of them are on the same page sometime, they will score 200 points.
the_rock's_#1_fan
04-23-2004, 03:45 PM
...Detroit is no good against us!...
Yeah, right, mother****er! That's why we pounded your sorry asses right b4 the end of the season, but you're probably still in denial about that one aren't you? Well, let me refresh your memory a little bit...
FINAL SCORE (4/4/2004): DETROIT 79, INDIANA 61!
LEADING SCORERS: ARTEST 16 (IND), HAMILTON 24 (DET) !
TECHNICAL FOULS: THE ONLY ONE--TO RON ARTEST , WITH 2:43 LEFT TO PLAY IN THE 4TH QTR. !
FAST BREAK POINTS: INDIANA 6, DETROIT 11 !
POINTS IN THE PAINT: INDIANA 18, DETROIT 22 !
BIGGEST LEAD: INDIANA--4 :lol: :rofl: :p , DETROIT 19 !
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
So don't be saying we can't hang with you Lakers wannabe's, cuz we'll come and crash and burn your asses just like we're about to do to Milwaukee and everyone else who tries to stand in our way!
KingofOldSchool
04-23-2004, 04:17 PM
So don't be saying we can't hang with you Lakers wannabe's, cuz we'll come and crash and burn your asses just like we're about to do to Milwaukee and everyone else who tries to stand in our way!
Bucks 92
Pistons F 88
Shawn
04-24-2004, 06:41 AM
Yeah, right, mother****er! That's why we pounded your sorry asses right b4 the end of the season, but you're probably still in denial about that one aren't you? Well, let me refresh your memory a little bit...
FINAL SCORE (4/4/2004): DETROIT 79, INDIANA 61!
LEADING SCORERS: ARTEST 16 (IND), HAMILTON 24 (DET) !
TECHNICAL FOULS: THE ONLY ONE--TO RON ARTEST , WITH 2:43 LEFT TO PLAY IN THE 4TH QTR. !
FAST BREAK POINTS: INDIANA 6, DETROIT 11 !
POINTS IN THE PAINT: INDIANA 18, DETROIT 22 !
BIGGEST LEAD: INDIANA--4 :lol: :rofl: :p , DETROIT 19 !
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
So don't be saying we can't hang with you Lakers wannabe's, cuz we'll come and crash and burn your asses just like we're about to do to Milwaukee and everyone else who tries to stand in our way!
You detroit fans make me laugh so much. I love how one win against the Indiana Pacer all of a sudden means you own us and your crowned east champs. Piston fans are always quick to whip out the stats of this one game because this is the ONLY GAME THEY WON IN THE SEASON SERIES! Then when you tell these dumbasses that they are quick to point out that they didnt have Bluntman Wallace on there team. Well since Piston fan wants to point that out then please allow me to point out that Indiana was playing without there starting PG Jamal Tinsley . Jamal Tinsley is one of the main reasons this team is so good. He can puch the ball up the court. Split defenses, penatrate to the basket and create shots for others. And he is hitting 39% from 3 point line.. which is decent enough to keep defenses honest. A.J Johnson was brought in for defense and to hit key shots. Kenny Anderson cant knock down a shot or break someone off the dribble. He was brought in for INsurance. Tinsley is the key to this teams success. But dont tell Piston fan that..No NO NO... they Have Bluntman and Afro Wallace on there frontline. While Indiana is in the NBA Finals you'll be making my mother ****ing car bitches! We guunna burn that shit hole you call the Palace down .
Shawn
04-24-2004, 06:44 AM
By the Way...
Bucks 92
Pistons F 88
Shut your faces.
KingofOldSchool
04-24-2004, 02:37 PM
All of the Pacers point guards suck, well except for Kenny Anderson...if this was 1995.
The Outlaw
04-25-2004, 10:16 PM
Steve Francis might be the most annoying player in the league.
Kid Robb
04-25-2004, 11:36 PM
Just quietly, i haven't seen the game or anything, but today's Lakers-Rocket's OT game, where Malone scored 30 - HOW THE **** DID JIM JACKSON GET 20 REBOUNDS.
Shaq, Malone, Yao Ming, Cato, WTF!
I wish more of the playoffs were on ESPN International. We get like 2 or 3 games a week max, should be one a night. Too much baseball, not enough basketball :mad:
PureHatred
04-25-2004, 11:58 PM
Yao played with foul problems through most of the game. Malone was playing on the wing a lot. And on every missed shot Kato and Taylor bodied up Shaq. Basically, Jackson crashed the boards and took advantage of the fact that he was covered by a smaller guy most of the game.
Nark Order
04-26-2004, 03:09 AM
The Kings are takin it this year, no questions about it...
Ninti the Mad
04-26-2004, 04:34 AM
The Kings are takin it this year, no questions about it...
lol
BCWWF
04-26-2004, 07:29 PM
lol
:y:
AlphaBean
04-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Man, was it wrong that I watched the whole Wolves game?
I couldn't take my eyes off it... the Nuggets were playing such flawless and inspired basketball, I kinda wanted them to win.
When I saw Camby put back that O-board, I marked out. The single greatest move in basketball is Camby's rebound dunk. :drool:
The Outlaw
04-26-2004, 08:18 PM
Yeah Jackson boarded it up
That was a crazy game.
Also, did anyone hear Malone's interview afterwards when they asked him about Steve Francis trying to bow up to him?
"You know what I do with that? *brushes off his shoulders* He's a ****ing nat"
Or something to that effect. I marked out haha
Ninti Ishkur
04-26-2004, 08:47 PM
You all should've watches the Spurs/Grizzlies game.
That game was intense.
Parker was the man in that game. And Duncan. And Horry.
Quality stuff right there.
The Outlaw
04-27-2004, 12:05 PM
Yeah I watched that ish.
Kinda wanted it to be a better series, I am a semi-Grizzlies fan but I am an Horry mark. :love:
BCWWF
04-27-2004, 10:04 PM
I think the Nuggets talked themselves up a little too much in the media since the last game, they know where the talent is, and you don't want to upset guys like Sprewell and Cassell. Tonights game should be intense.
BCWWF
04-28-2004, 01:20 AM
Man, this playoff scheduling this year is bull shit. First of all our home games were scheduled for 8:30 on weeknights, and now our away games are 9:30 on weeknights? Are they wondering why they aren't getting good numbers? Also, I have watched three of the four games that took place so far (Well, one isnt over yet) but these TNT doubleheaders clearly don't work because the damned East can't finish a basketball game on time, so every T-Wolves Nuggets game has been postponed half an hour at least. Our home games should be at 7:30 and away games at 7:30 mountain time, we don't give a **** about the Heat and the Hornets, so quit showing their games before ours. Thank you.
The Icon of Elisim
04-28-2004, 01:32 AM
Yeah, the NBA is pretty stupid when it comes to scheduling. The first round can take up to 17 days or something, thats garbage. Games should have 1 day between them at the max and none of this pre-empting garbage.
The Outlaw
04-28-2004, 02:43 AM
Ya know, as much of a fan of Spree I am, that was pure trash right there.
You just missed two free throws and gave them a chance to win, you shouldnt be running your mouth after the game. I know you are a trash talker but COME ON NOW
Also, why wasnt Carmelo in the game toward the latter?
PureHatred
04-28-2004, 02:45 AM
Not sure. That was a horrible set play. They were at home and needed one bucket. If not 'Melo, than they could have gone pick and roll with Nene and Lenard since Nene had beem killing his man all night. That might've been Bzdelik's job right there.
The Outlaw
04-28-2004, 02:48 AM
I think Melo mighta been fouled out, if so thats horse shit
Also just saw the replay, Spree is a ****ing cock
Right after the game was over he ran to their bench and ran his mouth...to THE BENCH. Jon Barry, Chris Anderson, and Nene I think were the three. Nene just laughed at him which was good. Barry got into it with him, but seriously SHUT THE **** UP SPREE you jackass.
:mad:
:love:@Barkley's comment on him
The Outlaw
04-28-2004, 02:50 AM
Ok...maybe not :|
Melo was just on the bench :|
AlphaBean
04-28-2004, 03:29 AM
I think Melo mighta been fouled out, if so thats horse shit
Also just saw the replay, Spree is a ****ing cock
Right after the game was over he ran to their bench and ran his mouth...to THE BENCH. Jon Barry, Chris Anderson, and Nene I think were the three. Nene just laughed at him which was good. Barry got into it with him, but seriously SHUT THE **** UP SPREE you jackass.
:mad:
:love:@Barkley's comment on him
Been reading the papers?
Barry has been running his mouth all week about the Wolves. Anderson and Nene have been abusing the Wolves. I love Camby, I love Melo, and the PGs are awesome, but Barry, Nene and Anderson need to die, seriously. Nene had like four vicious flagrant fouls, and only one of them was actually called for a "normal" foul. Anderson is a cocky bastard who thugged Wally THEN gets a "great" play on a no-call over-the-back on Fred... but Barry...
Barry talked shit and needs to shut up.
'Melo talked shit too, and look what that did. He ended up with 2 points on 16 shots, his only make was on a wide-open dunk. Then he got hurt, so he sat.
Spre did it on TV, so you talk shit. But Barry said it in the papers. Look it up. He ran his mouth as though the Nuggets had a chance in this series. :nono:
The Outlaw
04-28-2004, 05:47 PM
Well I havent read the papers, Melos comment, while true, was totally unecessary and just showed us how old he is.
Ok, point taken, they ran their mouths in the papers. I didnt see it. BUT, on tv Nene and Anderson both didn't talk anything to Spree when he was showing his ass at the end. Barry yes. But both of them looked at him like he was a child, which I thought was good. Now Barry, I can undertsand why he was retaliating. SPree RAN to him AND the whole bench and obviously was yelling obscene gestures to them, which Barry responded by saying something to him about missing those free throws. I mean yeah Barry was being a little bitch too but it was in response to Spree. You gotta remember, I am a huge fan of the guy's and have always tried to see stuff from his point of view ever since the strangling incident.
But let me break this down.
Ron Artest gets suspended for running five steps away from the bench and then coming right back during an altercation
Spree does what he did and will get nothing
Sam Cassell shoves Jeff Bzdelik and will get nothing
Hmm, I smell something here
The Outlaw
04-28-2004, 05:54 PM
And since you brought up the subject of bad calling, if I'm not mistaken Garnett either shot the same or more free throws then all of the Nugs.
Gotta be happy when that happens ;)
AlphaBean
04-28-2004, 06:16 PM
And since you brought up the subject of bad calling, if I'm not mistaken Garnett either shot the same or more free throws then all of the Nugs.
Gotta be happy when that happens ;)
Did you watch the game? He fought for those ****ing fouls. He was mauled. He battled. I was impressed -- for a guy who doesn't take it to the hole, that's ALL he did. I was like :eek: the entire game with how aggressively KG played. I was :eek: and :love: That's why he's MVP.
I'm not saying that the officiating was bad, I just think it was lopsided the fact that the Nuggets were thugging the wolves and while not always getting called for it, they got called a lot -- WHAT I AM SAYING is that when the Wolves fouled, it would be a touch-foul, or something slight. Whenever the Nuggets got a foul, they fouled hard, with the intent to hurt KG.
AND THE DENVER FANS BOOED KG WHEN HE GOT UP.
God, I was like... where are we, Philly? :wtf:
Wolves gotta foul harder. They need to foul with the intent to injure, like the Nugs do. Bring in the scrubs like Anderson to hurt people on dunk attempts. Whenever there was a breakaway for the Nuggets, the Wolves tried defending it, rather than hurting the guy. They played smart, the nuggets played street ball.
And they knew that the Wolves win when they can get to the line. Stupid.
By the way... the feud is getting heated. The "feud." And Barry needs to shut his ****ing face. He said the first two games were "boring," why? Because they got the shit beaten out of them. It will happen in game 5, too, and then what?
Spre was out of line, but when Andre Miller pushed KG in game 3, that was out of line. The things the Nuggets say are out of line. The fouls on Wally and KG were out of line. KG is being awesome in all of this, letting his play speak for itself and not trying to start anything with his words. I was sad when Spree missed his FT... but he also had just made a 3-pointer which ultimately meant the game for them. Had he not made that, then missed the FTs... then we woulda lost, then you know Barry would have talked shit.
I'm pretty sure Spre was talking to Barry. That's why Barry got mad, and everyone else laughed.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be laughing if my team just lost a close game... having fun is one thing, but "just being happy to be here" is another.
And while I hate Barry now for beign an asshole, at least he wants to win. You can see it in him, Camby, Voshon... they're veterans, and they want to win. 'melo Nene Anderson are like "whatever :D" then Boykins, Miller, they're in between. They're playing hard but they know they will be back. Well, Boykins is just a soldier -- a role player who will come through whether it's the Finals or a scrub game. Like Hoiberg and Hassell. :love: those two guys.
BCWWF
04-28-2004, 08:15 PM
THEN gets a "great" play on a no-call over-the-back on Fred... but Barry...
OMG that pissed me off so much! You could cut that clip out and put it in the NBA Rulebook as a textbook "Over the back violation," god damn that was blatant.
Anderson just sucks, what is he like the reserve center behind fu</>cking Nene? What does he have to be cocky about? And his tattoo's look like shit all over his arms. I don't care if he didn't say a word during the game, he acted like an idiot after making decent plays.
I watched the first half and listened to the 2nd on the radio (it ended at what, 12:30?) and I knew the whole way through that the Wolves would win, because in a game that fought out in the beginning, the lesser team dies first, and that is exactly what happened.
Also, its kind of funny how Fred Hoiberg is our best guy at guarding Earl, that says something.
Anyway, the Nugget's just got way too cocky for their own good, and now that they don't even have their fans behind them, they will fall off in game 5, making history. Sorry Carmelo, but we're not changing our name anytime soon.
HeartBreakMan2k
04-28-2004, 08:44 PM
Melo was out because he got hurt. Don't know if it's already been answered but just responding before I read everything
The Outlaw
04-29-2004, 12:08 AM
Yeah funny that you bring up Fred being the best defender against Boykins.
"Fred cant stay in front of Earl. If he cant guard him, noone can."
One of the announcers talking about Fred. I thought they should have fed Earl on the last play, he was wide open and he was hitting shots when I was watching.
I dunno the last two games have been pretty interesting like Barry said, but I mean trash talking is fine. I did a good bit in my playing days but I mean when you started doing what Spree did thats just going over the line. And when Sammy shoved Bzdelik it just made me groan.
LOL Why are you commenting on CHris Anderson if he's just a scrub center? I mean if hes JUST a scrub one wouldnt be talking about him. I think he brings serious energy to the game. Kinda like Mark Madsen :love:
But yeah, Im sure the next game will either be boring and not interesting or boring and have a span of 5 minutes thats interesting.
DOnt see Denver making a game out of it, but I will watch for the sole chance of seeing Chris Anderson's hair. :D
BCWWF
04-29-2004, 12:20 AM
Boykins did what a typical reserve does on a good night, hits about 5 shots in a row and then is unheard of the rest of the time. That isn't trying to be a diss on Boykins, but typically reserve players don't stay hot for the whole game.
AlphaBean
04-29-2004, 04:34 AM
Boykins did what a typical reserve does on a good night, hits about 5 shots in a row and then is unheard of the rest of the time. That isn't trying to be a diss on Boykins, but typically reserve players don't stay hot for the whole game.
He rocks the Wolves.
Anyway...
See the new quotes?
"Friday will be the big game for us," he said. "They might have to bring a lot of security to that game. There'll be some punches thrown." --Carmelo
Elson and Wolves star Kevin Garnett were involved in a dustup early in Tuesday's game during which the two traded blows, with Elson taking the first jab, to Garnett's hip. Garnett countered with one to Elson's groin.
"It's a cheap shot by a low-class player," Elson said. "We were right there, the referee saw it. He didn't do anything. . . . There's no respect for Nuggets players at all. No respect for me at all. We're going to retaliate."
:rofl: Wait... didn't he throw the first punch?
Nuggets backup guard Jon Barry, meanwhile, chided the Wolves for what he saw as excessive celebration.
"I thought it was kind of funny," Barry said. "The No. 1 seed acting like they won a championship. . . . I don't know why they would feel they should have to pound their chests after winning a ballgame."
:rofl: But didn't the Nuggets pound their chest and scream every time they made a shot? :yes: I think so!
Said Barry: "They came out in Game 4 and they didn't beat us, we beat ourselves. I don't give them any credit for anything that happened in that game."
Well technically, if Spree had made the free throws, he would have beaten the Nuggets no matter what... and if Miller OR Lenard had made their shots at the end, well, the missed free throws would be responsible for us "beating ourselves," so uh... Dunno. Good teams win close games, and the Wolves won, not the Nuggets. They need to stfu.
And then the fans throwing beer at the 'Wolves. You know Minnesota fans are going to retaliate. :nono:
Ninti the Mad
04-29-2004, 09:46 AM
Nuggets suck. It's that simple.
Let's see how they do against the Kings or Spurs.
Ninti the Mad
04-29-2004, 09:46 AM
:wavesad: Rockets
The Outlaw
04-29-2004, 10:49 AM
Nuggets suck. It's that simple.
Let's see how they do against the Kings or Spurs.
:y:
Barry brings up a good point. Good teams that have been there wouldn't have been celebrating that hardcore with a win against the Nugs. :(
The Dub
04-29-2004, 04:18 PM
Minnesota may finally get what they've been working so hard for the past eight years-- a trip to the second round and another long streak of second round exits. A 1-seed is supposed to beat an 8-seed. They shouldn't be celebrating any victories against Denver. It makes them look weak going into Scaramento and the Kings will beat them in five games even with homecourt.
The Dub
04-29-2004, 04:22 PM
:wavesad: Rockets
As soon as the game was over, I played "Life Goes On" by 2Pac and dedicated it to the Rockets.
PureHatred
04-29-2004, 04:57 PM
Minnesota may finally get what they've been working so hard for the past eight years-- a trip to the second round and another long streak of second round exits. A 1-seed is supposed to beat an 8-seed. They shouldn't be celebrating any victories against Denver. It makes them look weak going into Scaramento and the Kings will beat them in five games even with homecourt.
Yeah, because the Kings have such a strong record of winning tight games when it counts. :roll:
BCWWF
04-29-2004, 08:06 PM
Elson, hahahaha.
The Star Tribune had like 10 stories on T-Wolves/Nuggets today, and I want to get to that game tomorrow night SOOOOOO bad! It would be so intense and so much fun just to kill Jon Barry and Elson. Damn I want in.
As for the celebration, I think that it would have been a better statement for everybody to just get up and walk out, not casually, just intently leave, just saying "Business is over." But I can't complain, it was such an intense game that to win all of the emotion just comes out. According to Sid Hartman, the Wolves will win by 20 tomorrow night because the Nuggets just aren't good enough, and I don't disagree.
As for the Kings, bring them on cowboy. They aren't as good on the road, we have home court, Arco is one of the hardest places to win, we won there twice already this season. So all I have to say is bring it.
AlphaBean
04-29-2004, 08:28 PM
An 8th seed will probably win when they can break a guy's back and not get called. That's a pretty good indication of who's going to win, you know?
I dunno, it's a hunch.
Wolves got lazy because everyone picked them to win. Teams tend to lose games they're not supposed to lose, because they think it's fate, rather than hard work. Don't criticize the Wolves, because lots of 8th seeds give up 1-2 losses.
Remember, it doesn't matter if it's by an inch or a mile. Just so long as you get there.
BCWWF
04-29-2004, 08:53 PM
If anyone is trying to say that going 4-1 against a team like Denver is a bad thing, you are stupid.
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