Official Raw Thread: 3/31/08 (Four Horsemen Edition)

[FourFifty]

FUCK YEA! LONDRICK WENT OVER!

[ClockShot]

Interesting end.

[KingofOldSchool]

YES!

[NeanderCarl]

:lol:

Oh, it was non-title?

What's all this "reunited" business anyway?

[Azriel]

WOW!!! WWE Raw is actually...dare I say it, good tonight.

[Innovator]

Flair/Steamboat....amazing

[ClockShot]

STEAMBOAT!

[Jaton]

I could never get tired of a Steamboat/Flair match.

All these old clips just remind of the days when a finishing move wasn't practically required for every single title match.

[KingofOldSchool]

Now I'm waiting for Chris Masters to randomly show up to face Eugene who randomly returns.

And then Rob Conway comes back, but nobody care because it is Rob Conway.

[DarKCentaur]

WOW!!! WWE Raw is actually...dare I say it, good tonight.

Sad thing is, the ratings will probably suck tonight, and WWE will go back to the usual shit.

[Innovator]

We're almost halfway home and RAW has been good.....Cena will fuck it up, don't worry

[St. Jimmy]

No more tag wrestling for the next 6 months please.

[Afterlife]

Kendrick and Cody in the same place at the same time. I may need some alone time. :drool:

[Jaton]

I'd mark out if Conway came back.



...I'm sure I'd be the only one. You'd probably hear me from my house, as I'm sure the crowd would be so dead.

[DarKCentaur]

Now I'm waiting for Chris Masters to randomly show up to face Eugene who randomly returns.

And then Rob Conway comes back, but nobody care because it is Rob Conway.

The way this night is going, Rob Conway isn't a far stretch...

[Azriel]

Hey, don't kill the buzz man. Let's enjoy it while we can :lol:

[Hanso Amore]

did they say 6th time when Flair pinned Ricky? Seems weird. Add 2 for WWF, and that means Flair won the title in WCW 8 more times after that? doesnt seem right.

[NeanderCarl]

So, The Titan City Machineguns broke up and got back together? How did I miss that?

Booking 101... next week they get a rematch, this time for the belts... they lose, and one turns on the other.

Don't see the point putting the straps on them... they already held the SmackDown tag titles for about five years and nobody noticed,

[FourFifty]

I'm amazed that Flair and HBK had the match they had last night. It was fucking epic.

[Afterlife]

I'd mark out if Conway came back.



...I'm sure I'd be the only one. You'd probably hear me from my house, as I'm sure the crowd would be so dead.

I've been missing the Conway/Granier La Resistance, myself. But the Con Man music was fucking incredible.

[Azriel]

Mania recap

[KingofOldSchool]

Maybe Colt Cabana will debut and help Punk beat Jericho.

[Corndad]

I love these recap videos.

[FourFifty]

Highlights from WM24....

Everybody needs a montage!

[FourFifty]

Even Rocky had a montage!

[Jaton]

Yes. Yes it was.

[Innovator]

That clip of the ECW match lasted longer than the actual match

[Innovator]

Colt cabana was one of the paparazzi last night

[FourFifty]

So my brother doesn't watch too much wrestling anymore. Something about being over in Iraq. He doesn't keep up with who's who but he knows a lot of names still. I told him about Kane winning the watered down ECW title. His response....
"At least it's not Chavo."

[Hanso Amore]

Wwow, nice montage, showing full clips!

MITB looked AMAZING

[NeanderCarl]

Surprised Finlay used that plancha last night... not just that he can pull it off, but the Undertaker seems to have the trademark on the suicide dive to the outside, especially at Mania

[Azriel]

Montages FTW

[St. Jimmy]

The only thing that would legit make me mark is if Jimmy Jacobs debuted and destroyed Punk.

[FourFifty]

Ya know, I didn't mind Floyd going over the Show. Floyd and his group made the Show look good even though The Big Show lost. It was better than I would have dreamed.

[Innovator]

Inno happy time coming up

[NeanderCarl]

Jericho's jobbing to Punk.

[KingofOldSchool]

NEEEEXXXXXXXXXT!

Can't wait for the dubbed in reaction for Punk.

[Jeritron]

Jerichos entrance without pyro is gonna be weird. Prob the first time since wcw

[Volchok]

So CM Punk vs Orton at SummerSlam?

[Hanso Amore]

Who saw MITB, was it as fucking awesome as that montage made it look. I seriously almost came.

[KingofOldSchool]

Jericho's jobbing to Punk.

Probably the other way around.

[Innovator]

The only thing that would legit make me mark is if Jimmy Jacobs debuted and destroyed Punk.
OMG AGE OF THE FALL

[KingofOldSchool]

So CM Punk vs Orton at SummerSlam?

No.

[Jeritron]

did they say 6th time when Flair pinned Ricky? Seems weird. Add 2 for WWF, and that means Flair won the title in WCW 8 more times after that? doesnt seem right.


Are you familiar with wcw? He was there until it closed down.

[Azriel]

MITB was really awesome. Shelton pretty much stole the show

[St. Jimmy]

I mean ate him alive.

[Corndad]

I just realized. wasnt that Cenas first loss at Mania?

[Innovator]

Who saw MITB, was it as fucking awesome as that montage made it look. I seriously almost came.
better

[Jeritron]

Who saw MITB, was it as fucking awesome as that montage made it look. I seriously almost came.

It was better

[Hanso Amore]

Wonder if Punk gets a good reaction

[Jeritron]

well the no pyro thing was a bullshit lie

[Azriel]

JERICHOOOOO!!

[sugar butt]

BDC likes giving our dog beer

[Jeritron]

he will

[KingofOldSchool]

Wonder if Punk gets a good reaction

Thanks to the Goldberg tape machine.

[FourFifty]

I'm having flashbacks of Morrison's moonsault to the outside.... Niiice!

[Hanso Amore]

Are you familiar with wcw? He was there until it closed down.

Yeah, and they booked him like shit for most of the time. i just dont remember 8 more reigns. I remember he beat Vader in 93 and Savage in 96, and dont remember the other times.

[Jeritron]

not really

[Hanso Amore]

Hard to hear a reation or none with that metal theme.

[ClockShot]

Didn't take long for that to get detailed.

[Azriel]

Hopefully this sould be good

[Hanso Amore]

not really

They booked him to the WWF, then jobbed him epic to Hogan, and pulled him off tv for months at a time.

[Jeritron]

This is the match I've most wanted to see for a while

[Jeritron]

I dont have high expectations here though, it's a tv match and probably/hopefully the first of a series including ppv matches with significant time. I'd love this fued not just for the matches, but the promos and the overall matchup and freshness

[KingofOldSchool]

DAMN THOSE DUBBED IN CM PUNK CHANTS!

[Hanso Amore]

hmm, flair was champ 2 times in 2000? And he beat Savage twice in 95/96?

How do I not remember that?

[Azriel]

So I wonder if Regal will punish Umanga for not winning last night?

[FourFifty]

The more I see of Punk on WWE the less I like him.
The more I see of Punk's pre-WWE stuff, the more I like him.
Right now it's pretty even.

[KingofOldSchool]

I think the fans are conflicted on who to cheer for.

[Johnny Vegas]

Notice how smooth things are going when Vince isnt on tv


This crowd is the best ever tbh

[sugar butt]

this match kinda sucks.....it looks like they are just playin along with each other and helping each other out

[KingofOldSchool]

DUELING CHANTS NOT IN A CENA MATCH = WIN

[Azriel]

How can you tell they're dubbed in?

[Volchok]

So are they just gonna forget CM Punk being on ECW and just keep him on raw now?

[FourFifty]

I like that chant. Goes right up there with the "Let's go Cena- CENA SUCKS!" deal.

[Corndad]

Rob Van Dams Movie LOL The hell King

[Hanso Amore]

I was hoping Jericho was doing a sling shot suplex

Someone needs to bring that back.

[KingofOldSchool]

How can you tell they're dubbed in?

Because CM Punk isn't over otherwise. :roll:

[FourFifty]

So are they just gonna forget CM Punk being on ECW and just keep him on raw now?

We'll all say Punk is on Raw. If more than 5 fans say it, then it's true.

[Hanso Amore]

How can you tell they're dubbed in?

You cant, but these guys are super anti punk and just make shit up.

[BigDaddyCool]

this match kinda sucks.....it looks like they are just playin along with each other and helping each other out

Agree, this is at half speed.

[Jeritron]

this match is the goods for tv

[Hanso Amore]

Way to put over your MITb winner....WTF?

[KingofOldSchool]

You cant, but these guys are super anti punk and just make shit up.

BUT THE CROWD IS DEAD!

[ClockShot]

Jericho wins. Wow.

[BigDaddyCool]

That match should have been better.

[Corndad]

wow way to put over the MITB winner guys.

[KingofOldSchool]

lol

[Jeritron]

these 2 have great chemistry. PROGRAM PLEASE!

[Hanso Amore]

I just dont see what jericho winning did for anyone.

[Corndad]

Nice. Rumble 92 match!

[McLegend]

It's fine that Jericho won.

They are building a feud here.

[Jeritron]

yea and if jericho lost its' "they're burying him and the ic title"


It's just to get a fued rolling. Punk went over him last night. He got the win back. Now they fued.

[ClockShot]

Hey. The old WWF symbol not blurred.

[Heros Welcome]

Very good match! Crowd was eatin it up. Program please

[KingofOldSchool]

I just dont see what jericho winning did for anyone.

PUNK HAS THE HEATZORZ!

[Azriel]

92 Rumble, hell yeah

[Jeritron]

the old wwf logo is never blurred. it's the attitude one that is, because it's still in use only without the F

[DarKCentaur]

wow way to put over the MITB winner guys.

The same thing happened last year... two weeks after Kennedy won, he lost clean to Matt Hardy. And probably a few other people.

[Hanso Amore]

yea and if jericho lost its' "they're burying him and the ic title"


It's just to get a fued rolling. Punk went over him last night. He got the win back. Now they fued.

The guy holiding the Main event case beating the Mid Card Title isnt burying.

The IC title winner going over the guy that is suppose to be a challenge to the World Titles hurts his cred.

[Hanso Amore]

off to bed

[Jeritron]

can we talk about how great Jericho and Punk's chemistry is? That was their first ever match. Theres serious potential there, that was the goods for a television fued builder

[McLegend]

PUNK HAS THE HEATZORZ!

Yeah I think it's because Punk dubbed the crowd chants on his own.

Made himself too over.

[Innovator]

awesomw

[Jeritron]

The guy holiding the Main event case beating the Mid Card Title isnt burying.

The IC title winner going over the guy that is suppose to be a challenge to the World Titles hurts his cred.


Chill out. He's still got the briefcase and I bet just about anything they fued and Punk walks out with the win and the briefcase/IC title

[Volchok]

lol

[BigDaddyCool]

I only wanna see a Jericho/Punk fued if the matches are 4.5 stars or better. That match was 3.75 at best.

[Azriel]

I def see good thing in the future for Jericho/Punk

[McLegend]

The guy holiding the Main event case beating the Mid Card Title isnt burying.

The IC title winner going over the guy that is suppose to be a challenge to the World Titles hurts his cred.

He can cash it in anytime. There is plenty of time to get the win back.

They are building Punk up.

Chill

[FourFifty]

SANTINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Afterlife]

can we talk about how great Jericho and Punk's chemistry is? That was their first ever match. Theres serious potential there, that was the goods for a television fued builder

A full-blown feud would be great stuff.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah I think it's because Punk dubbed the crowd chants on his own.

Made himself too over.

He got Ace Steel and Colt Cabana into a studio and made them chant his name and Punk recorded and added an echo sound effect.

[ClockShot]

Show.

Why?...................

[Jeritron]

3.75. Okayyyy. For a 5 minute television matchup thats made to start a fued and conserve their potential, not to mention their first ever meeting. Sounds like a great rating in that case

[Loose Cannon]

Jericho should of won there. hott fued

[Jeritron]

BDC you are such a hater

[Azriel]

Damn, that's some bruise

[Corndad]

wow big pop for show

[McLegend]

He got Ace Steel and Colt Cabana into a studio and made them chant his name and Punk recorded and added an echo sound effect.

Yeah you can't do that. I can now see why Tony Atlas hates him.

[DarKCentaur]

CM Punk is clearly no Sean Waltman.

[KingofOldSchool]

The same thing happened last year... two weeks after Kennedy won, he lost clean to Matt Hardy. And probably a few other people.

Edge lost to Benoit the night after Mania 21.

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC you are such a hater

Seriously, those guys can be great wrestler when they want to be, that match was at half speed.

[KingofOldSchool]

Yeah you can't do that. I can now see why Tony Atlas hates him.

Tony is jealous of Punk, because Atlas didn't have that technology when he was active.

[Loose Cannon]

oh no, not this match

[Corndad]

oh please own him show.

[NeanderCarl]

:roll:

[BigDaddyCool]

Everything ever said about Joe is true about Bigshow.

[Jaton]

Am I the only one who's actually been looking forward to this feud coming?

I like Giant vs. Giant.

[KingofOldSchool]

COLLIE!

[Azriel]

You were saying Show?

[ClockShot]

FINALLY!

THE BIG MAN BATTLE I WANT TO SEE!

[sugar butt]

I'd like to see a match between khali and big show...looks like we might get one

[FourFifty]

The Show vs Khali... This is gonna be really good, or REEEEEALLLLYYYY BAD!

[Loose Cannon]

lol you can't wrestle

[McLegend]

Tony is jealous of Punk, because Atlas didn't have that technology when he was active.

Image if he did... He could have been bigger then Hogan.

[Jeritron]

and look at Edge last night

[KingofOldSchool]

"YOU CAN'T WRESTLE!"

[FourFifty]

I love this crowd.

[McLegend]

O second thought no he couldn't have.

[Jeritron]

lmao at this crowd on Khali

[FourFifty]

Show's Gonna Kill You!

[Jaton]

Are they seriously chanting "Show's gonna kill you?"

[KingofOldSchool]

"SHOW'S GONNA KILL YOU!"

LOL I LOVE THIS CROWD!

[ClockShot]

What the hell were they chanting?

[McLegend]

Hhaha "Show's gonna Kill you"

[KingofOldSchool]

Image if he did... He could have been bigger then Hogan.

Bigger than Austin, Hogan, and Rock COMBINED.

[Jeritron]

Boring. It also pisses me off that Khali's taller than Show

[Innovator]

Show is gonna kill you

[McLegend]

Bigger than Austin, Hogan, and Rock COMBINED.

Bigger then Jesus?

[FourFifty]

Bigger then Jesus?

I'm "bigger" than Jesus, if ya know what I mean :naughty:

[Afterlife]

JR: Randy Orton's no doubt better -- but so is Matt Hardy!!

Um...WHat?

[sugar butt]

my night is about to be completed =)

[Jeritron]

Okay, can Khali please be released after this? Seriously it's the last possible thing left for him. Big Show's back, so they don't even need the token giant. Job him to Show, then job him around the roster and have Hornswaggle beat and pin him clean before future endeavors

[Volchok]

I love this Raw

[Innovator]

Show would have to find 18 EEEEE working boots to work with Collie

[rob11]

Smark crowds are refreshing sometimes.

[TerranRich]

Man, it's like TNA fans were paid to change their chants to suit WWE events.

THIS IS MEDIOCRE! CLAP CLAP CLAP-CLAP-CLAP!!

[Azriel]

I have a bad feeling Khali/Show could turn out to be like Giant Gonzalez/taker

[DarKCentaur]

I love how Big Show came back to a huge face pop, turned heel within minutes, then turns face again shortly after without losing ANY heat whatsoever.

[Jeritron]

this Raw is the goods

[KingofOldSchool]

I'm "bigger" than Jesus, if ya know what I mean :naughty:

Who cares about your big ears?

[Heros Welcome]

I'm so sick of Khali. Seriously just get the hell out of here already

[Jeritron]

ARE THEY EVEN GOING TO ADRESS MAYWEATHER AND SHIT LAST NIGHT?!?

[TerranRich]

I think he means BIG FEET... in BIG SANDALS. :shifty:

[sugar butt]

BDC got my dog drunk

[KingofOldSchool]

I think this is my favorite Raw in like two years. (note: I have not rated any previous Raw's so that is just a guess)

[TerranRich]

Big Show already addressed it, congratulating Mayweather... and his posse and his weapons and knucks.

[Heros Welcome]

this Raw is the goods

[Innovator]

Gotta love smark crowds, CMON GET CENA OU TTHERE

[DarKCentaur]

ARE THEY EVEN GOING TO ADRESS MAYWEATHER AND SHIT LAST NIGHT?!?

He did. Show gave it the 5 seconds it deserved.

[Afterlife]

A One-month program with Show/Khali would be fine. A full blown feud? No, thanks.

[FourFifty]

ARE THEY EVEN GOING TO ADRESS MAYWEATHER AND SHIT LAST NIGHT?!?

Didn't the Show already mention that?

[KingofOldSchool]

SANTINO!

[Corndad]

Snoopy the Dog lol

[Innovator]

Kibbibbles and Bibbits

[KingofOldSchool]

KIBBLE AND TEH BITS!

[TerranRich]

One... two... da-three!

GOLD.

88...

[Jeritron]

Now that this cunt has slung her poon on newstands she should turn heel and go back with Santino

[TerranRich]

"Makin' pasta, makin' babies"

[Innovator]

making pasta making babies :lol:

[KingofOldSchool]

MAKING BABIES AND PASTA, GOOD!

[ClockShot]

DAAAAAAAAAAAMN!

[Volchok]

lol Snoopy the dog

[Jeritron]

Santino!

[Heros Welcome]

SANTINO!:rofl:

[NeanderCarl]

:lol: @ the crowd throughout this segment. Shame they've killed Santino's in-ring credibility because they've got a superstar personality on their hands.

[FourFifty]

..............are they really having Orton/Hardy before Maria/Santino?
Seriously, the booking is good, but the order is shit.

[TerranRich]

Santino! Er... Orton!

[SammyG]

How can anyone not like Santino, seriously?!

[Azriel]

Was Santino semi-shooting there? :lol:

[DarKCentaur]

It's a travesty that Santino didn't fare well in the Royal Battle.

[Innovator]

HEY

[TerranRich]

Does JR still do that "FRUITY! FRUITY! FRUITY! FRUITY!" bit for Skittles?

[Jeritron]

I think HHH will run in or distract and allow Matt Hardy to pick up the victory

Actually, MVP run in on Matt.

Maybe both?

[sugar butt]

i'm ready for hardy to come out

[Loose Cannon]

V111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

[KingofOldSchool]

So Maria poses nude then makes out with another man and yet Santino is the bad guy?

[TerranRich]

WHOA YEAH!

He can slap a tornado.

He can dry up a sea.

But can he win the WWE championship?

[NeanderCarl]

WWE might learn a lesson here tonight.... an entertaining run of shows = increasingly enthusiastic crowds.

And enthusiastic crowds can make a good show great.

[TerranRich]

If this were the final match, I'd call a run-in by Trips/Cena/both, but I doubt it.

[Volchok]

So is this the last match and the rest if Flair?

[Jeritron]

I still always think that his song says "I can dry your pussy yeaa"

[Azriel]

Come on Matt

V11111111111111111111111111111111

[TerranRich]

No there's still Santino/Maria. Main event stuff right thar.

[Azriel]

I still always think that his song says "I can dry your pussy yeaa"

Your head's been in the gutter too long my friend :lol:

[TerranRich]

MATT FACT: Matt didn't start the fire. But he did roast some marshmallows while watching it burn.

[Innovator]

Flair is getting the main event time

[NeanderCarl]

WHOA YEAH!

He can slap a tornado.

He can dry up a sea.

But can he win the WWE championship?

You see, that lyric always sounds like he's singing "I can dry a pussy" which seems a baffling bragging rite to me.

[Jeritron]

I still think MVP will win here by a HHH or Cena run in. It covers this chapter for Matt and allows him to move onto MVP.

For Orton, he just moves on and finishes business with HHH and/or Cena

[FourFifty]

Santino is not the best guy in the ring, but he's far from the worst. Ad that with his promo skills and Santino is the best preformer WWE has to offer.

[Innovator]

CMON GOOD HARDY

[Jeritron]

makes sense

[Jeritron]

MATT FUCKIN HARDY

[TerranRich]

What is WITH you guys? Fuck a girl already, and get it out of your system. :lol:

[Azriel]

MVP run in?

[Jeritron]

loving this Raw

[NeanderCarl]

MATT FACT: Matt didn't start the fire. It was always burning, since the world's been turning.

[TerranRich]

That $5 Foot Long Subway commercial always makes me giggle.

[McLegend]

Santino is not the best guy in the ring, but he's far from the worst. Ad that with his promo skills and Santino is the best preformer WWE has to offer.

Nah hes pretty close to the worst in the ring.

[TerranRich]

For a minute I thought that said "THE RUNS". That would truly be a horror movie.

[Innovator]

Santino is not the best guy in the ring, but he's far from the worst. Ad that with his promo skills and Santino is the best preformer WWE has to offer.
no

[Jeritron]

BK breakfast looks so gross

[TerranRich]

"It's inside me! Oh... now it's out."

THE RUNS. Coming soon.

[DarKCentaur]

That $5 Foot Long Subway commercial always makes me giggle.

Did Santino run off with it?

[TerranRich]

There's an ad running right now for an EPW event, a local indy fed. Christian Cage vs. a local guy. This Friday. I should catch it.

[TerranRich]

"I got-a your 5-a-dolla foot-a-long right a-here!"

[Innovator]

coming back from commercial INTO THE REAR CHINLOCK

[Azriel]

And we're back

[TerranRich]

And we're better than ever.

[DarKCentaur]

Interesting, a dueling chant for this match: RKO vs Let's Go Hardy

[Jeritron]

10:31 and no Cena or HHH. They're obv not a part of the Flair ceremony. Any minute now

[Jeritron]

this crowd is LIVE

[McLegend]

It's the same people that go to TNA shows.

[TerranRich]

Like I said. They paid TNA guys to change their chants to fit WWE.

[Innovator]

It's the same people that go to TNA shows.
That one section is pretty loud

[TerranRich]

Wow this is a good match. Lots of good near-falls.

[NeanderCarl]

It's too late in the show for this to happen now, but I thought maybe they could have debuted Chris Harris tonight.

Assuming he's going to be on Raw, that is. He'll more likely be on SmackDown or ECW.

[TerranRich]

RKOOOO'S GONNA KILLLLL YOU!

[Innovator]

TWIST OF FATE ON THE FLOOR

[Jeritron]

What about all the MITB competitors? None have been on tv yet tonight.

We've seen Londrick, Cade Murdoch, Cody Rhodes and Fallcore and Cryme Tyme

But half the major stars haven't made it on the card. I guess some of it's make up to the jobbers for not being on the show last night

[TerranRich]

With that front section being the way they are, I expect Don West to bust out his nearly-asphyxiated voice any second.

[ClockShot]

BOOM!

[NeanderCarl]

Niiiiiiiiiiiiice finish!

[Innovator]

RKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Jeritron]

No excuse for no run in there

[Loose Cannon]

that's how we roll mother fuckers. RKO

[TerranRich]

Take what's MIIIIIINE.

[Azriel]

Wow. Orton playing dead there

[KingofOldSchool]

lol just like that

[Jeritron]

actually I take that back