Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen

[D Mac]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a97790/transformers-sequel-given-new-title.html

The sequel to last year's summer hit Transformers will be called Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen.

The new title was revealed by producer Don Murphy on his message forum.

Director Michael Bay informed MTV that the sequel will not end on a cliffhanger.

He said: "You know how those sequels they do the second one so you go see the third one? [Transformers 2] is it. First one was just introducing, setting up stuff, so we can go a lot further. Let's just say [this] is not a lame sequel."

Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson and John Turturro will star in the sequel, along with franchise newcomers Isabel Lucas, Rainn Wilson and Matthew Marsden.

Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen is scheduled for release on June 26, 2009.

[Destor]

I was going to come in here and complain how the sequel two parter was getting cliché' but the I remembered this was a Micheal Bay vehicle and realized my point was moot.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Megan Fox hot, Transformers film shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhite.

[ron the dial]

rainn wilson yessssss

[thedamndest]

I was going to come in here and complain how the sequel two parter was getting cliché' but the I remembered this was a Micheal Bay vehicle and realized my point was moot.

Michael Bay movies are really a throwback to the days when movies used to be really long but contain an intermission to get up and stretch a bit, except these contain so much exploding shit that the "intermission" needs to be at least a year for the average person to collect his bearings. Now that's film making!

[BigDaddyCool]

Michael Bay movies are really a throwback to the days when movies used to be really long but contain an intermission to get up and stretch a bit, except these contain so much exploding shit that the "intermission" needs to be at least a year for the average person to collect his bearings. Now that's film making!

:rofl:

[Destor]

rofl

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Who the fuck came up with that title. This isn't fucking Star Wars, it's giant robots beating the shit out of each other. THERE IS NO SUBTEXT.

[ClockShot]

Sweet. School Boy from Rambo is gonna be in this.

[Kalyx triaD]

I WAS GONNA POST THE OFFICIAL THREAD TODAY!!!!

Anyway; they're filming now for a Summer 09 release. Autobot Arcee is confirmed as a motorcycle (no surprise there) and there will be a transformers based on an ice-cream truck and a huge Blackbird jet. An Audi R8 was also seen being chased by the good guys, take that as you will. There may be as many as 10 TFs on both sides, and rest assured Soundwave will make it in there with his most popular minions Laserbeak and Ravage. No; he will not be a damn strereo, get over it.

I've been up and up on the news and this thread will be my vent spot. Don't worry, I despise spoilers and if I run into one (like I did two days ago, damn!) I'll spare you the jist.

Roll Out!

[Theo Dious]

If this does not lead to Unicron in some way shape or form I will personally leave flaming poo on the doorstep of everyone involved.

http://www.freewebs.com/fourth_heir/artwork/Unicron1.jpg

Till all are one, bitch!

[Theo Dious]

Who the fuck came up with that title. This isn't fucking Star Wars, it's giant robots beating the shit out of each other. THERE IS NO SUBTEXT.

First of all, I object to that. Transformers does in fact have subtext, it's just that sometimes it's paper thin and shitty.

Additionally, The Fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_%28Transformers%29) refers to a rather obscure character in the Transformers universe, and since he does have a connection to Unicron I shall now go and masturbate.

[Theo Dious]

And, I demand that the third installment be called "Transformers: Revenge of Unicron's Beard."

[Kalyx triaD]

I highly doubt the movie will so much as reference Unicron. It just wouldn't work at this stage of the movie franchise. Yes I know about the Fallen, and Hasbro's recent lock of the name. Yes I know about their relation to Unicron. Yes I freakin love the concept of a planet sized TF. But no, I don't think he'll work at all in live action, especially with how Bay set up that universe in... believability (can't believe I said it).

[Theo Dious]

I'm still sporting the "If Unicron no-shows, I riot" sign, and nothing is going to stop me.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

First of all, I object to that. Transformers does in fact have subtext, it's just that sometimes it's paper thin and shitty.

In a Michael Bay movie? Ya think?

Additionally, The Fallen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_%28Transformers%29) refers to a rather obscure character in the Transformers universe, and since he does have a connection to Unicron I shall now go and masturbate.

The would revenge would imply that the character would have been introduced by now if that was going to be the case. They're probably just dicking around people who actually know this obscure fact.

[Kane Knight]

First of all, I object to that. Transformers does in fact have subtext, it's just that sometimes it's paper thin and shitty.

This is Michael Bay. He aspires to paper thin and shitty subtext.

Anyway, are you sure it's a ref to "the fallen?"

[Kane Knight]

The would revenge would imply that the character would have been introduced by now if that was going to be the case. They're probably just dicking around people who actually know this obscure fact.


Well, he could be out for revenge for something that happened before the movie.

I'm not saying you're wrong, just pointing out the obvious way that it could still make sense. Could, but probably won't.

However, since we're out to make a Trilogy here....

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Unless I hear otherwise I'm just gonna assume it's a reference to Megatron being reborn as Galvatron. And he'll probably resurrect some of the others who got killed, or something.

Hey, maybe we'll get EVIL JAZZ! :eek:

[Kane Knight]

Unless I hear otherwise I'm just gonna assume it's a reference to Megatron being reborn as Galvatron. And he'll probably resurrect some of the others who got killed, or something.

Hey, maybe we'll get EVIL JAZZ! :eek:

Even coming back would make more sense.

[Danny Electric]

Lol Matthew Marsden

[Kalyx triaD]

There's gonna be a lil 'Former, with an RC truck vehicle/toy mode. He's gonna go BIG in merch. Appearently he's Sam's pet or something.

[U-Warrior]

Starscream needs a bigger role in this one.

[Kane Knight]

Oh Good. Marketing.

[Shadow]

I can't wait for this movie. I really can't.

And I really hope they do use the Fallen...he's on fire...all the time. HE'S PERFECT FOR BAY!

[Mr Regal]

Matthew Marsden scores yet another sequel role....legend.

[Kane Knight]

I can't wait for this movie. I really can't.

And I really hope they do use the Fallen...he's on fire...all the time. HE'S PERFECT FOR BAY!

He'd be perfect for Bay if he was constantly exploding.

[Kalyx triaD]

Starscream needs a bigger role in this one.

He will, ye old sock.

[RP]

Transformers 2 : If Its Burnable, Burn It

[RP]

Transformers 3 : Gas, Match, Boom, Rinse and Repeat

[RP]

Transformers 4 : Explosions In The Sky...And Eventually Everywhere Else

[RP]

Transformers 5 : The Making of Bad Boys 3

[Kalyx triaD]

Well I tried to post pics of megan Fox kissing Shia on a motorcycle and a new small transformer attacking a car but the pics came up as those red x's in a box.

[Shaggy]

They announced a few days ago that the title has changed once again....not a huge change but it is a change that many people were hoping for...

Instead of.....

Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen

Its now....

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

[Kalyx triaD]

Numbers are so last Summer.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I personally think this will be a reference to The Fallen. I mean, it would seem to fit, there will be a trilogy, and the character is apparently pretty cool. But come on, Skywarp! Get your payday! :shifty:

[Kalyx triaD]

I am also a fan of Skywarp.

Going back on my previous thought, it seems that the sequel is indeed about the Fallen - the first Cybertronian. I guess we'll see.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/Kalyx_triaD/transformers2poster.jpg

[Fignuts]

HOT

[Kalyx triaD]

And that face more than resembles the Decepticon symbol...

[G]

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/34/68/megan-fox-hootest-2-9-07.jpg





piitb mos def

[Kalyx triaD]

...Yeah she's in it, too.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I thought the first film was a bit naff. I really only went to see the first out of nostalgia, and because Megan Fox is a fox. But can't say I wish to see any more films... or atleast spend money to see them.

[Requiem]

Can't wait for this.

[Mr Regal]

I would sex megan fox until my tally whacker fell off.

[G]

I thought the first film was a bit naff. I really only went to see the first out of nostalgia, and because Megan Fox is a fox. But can't say I wish to see any more films... or atleast spend money to see them.


1st was excellent. This should be too.

[FearedSanctity]

A significantly brighter version....

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/fallenposter-440x651.jpg

[Mr Regal]

oooooooooooooooh

[94 SVT Cobra]

is that the fallen?

[Gerard]

As long as he fucks right off with the "superzoomedinblurowtfisgoingonovision" it could be a good movie. I still can't believe the massive balls up they made with barricade in the first movie, on his way to the end battle then never appears. Plenty of people were saying it was a large editing error with others saying they just wanted to keep barricade around for the sequel. If they did why didnt they just cut the scene where he said he was en route with the other decepticons?


The decepticons really need more screen time this time around, last movie you just seen small glimpses of them and nothing more.

But yeah, as long as he cuts back on that zoomed in shit i will enjoy it, too many of the fight scenes in the first it was hard to tell wtf was going on, that and prime geting his ass handed to him in the final battle with barely any offence.

:foc:

[Jeritron]

The first one was easily Michael Bay's best movie, which isn't saying much, but it was good. It wasn't lifechanging or cinematic art, but a lot of fun. I liked it a lot, and I have pretty much always hated Michael Bay movies.

This one looks like it's shaping up to be cool, but it has the potential to suck really bad. If they focus in the wrong direction it could become an overdone or unoriginal sequel, and fall back into the probability of being just another terrible movie.

It also has a chance to be really entertaining, if it takes what worked in the first movie and goes further with it.

I hope the second happens.

[Fox]

The first one, in my opinion, was crap. Great effects, good acting, the transformers themselves were great, but the story just didn't feel right. I hope that this will be one of the rare cases that the sequel is better than the original, but I sincerely doubt it.

[Kalyx triaD]

Autobot, Sideswipe (Chevy Centennial Corvette):

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h230/Kalyx_triaD/tf2sideswipe.jpg

Just the toy, but a good idea of what he looks like.

[Fignuts]

Wow, what a shitty looking corvette.

[Kalyx triaD]

is that the fallen?

Yes.

[Fignuts]

Never had a problem with Michael Bay's movies. Frankly, I think they're a lot of fun, and most people take them a lot more serious than they should be.

[Jeritron]

Well it depends on the movie. Pearl Harbor and The Island are meant to be taken seriously. They're not fun. They're fuckin terrible.

I'll agree with you on the rest though. They are meant to be fun and a couple of them are to me.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I think we need more, better pics of Megan Fox.

http://blog.celebritymovieblog.com/wp-content/uploads/RoboGallery/rg1210671238416238/main.jpg

Damn you, nipple pads!

[Fignuts]

Apparently there is going be a trailer for this, and the G.I. Joe movie during the superbowl. Honestly gonna watch it just for that, since none of the teams interest me.

[Savio]

I wonder if it will be a cliche suckfest like the first one

[Kalyx triaD]

I wonder if it will be a cliche suckfest like the first one

http://13gb.com/media/images/capturedtrolls.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/948/948556/gi-joe-rise-of-cobra-20090127015447900.jpg

[Vastardikai]

1. There MUST be a Sgt. Slaughter cameo: AND THAT'S AN ORDER!

2. If they feature the Dreadnaughts, CM Punk has to play Zartan. for 2 reasons:
a. Put black paint on his face, he's a dead ringer.
b. He's already got the Cobra tat.

[Kalyx triaD]

I posted the Snake Eyes pic because I had nowhere else to post it, he won't be in Transformers 2. Sorry if anyone was misinformed. But I got some new TF2 material to drop in a few.

EDIT Update:

Two of the new Autobots. Very expressive!

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=13379

A small pic showing the Autobots cruisin the streets. Now that's a convoy. The above Autobots would be the 5th and 4th cars respectively.

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=13158

Soundwave (Toy). No shots of his pet, Ravage yet.:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=13349
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attachment.php?do=fullview&attachmentid=13348


Devestator is "fucking huge" and will act true to his namesake once the Constructicons form him (he looks like a gorilla!).
One of the Autobots from the 80's movie, Springer, is confirmed. He'll be a helicopter again.
Megatron might not return afterall.
No shots or even description of The Fallen, or even if he'll be on fire or not.

[Jeritron]

DON'T DROP THAT SHIT!

[Jeritron]

the yellow cake I mean. By all means drop the Transformers news

[Kalyx triaD]

From one of the writers:

* With many of the Decepticons being CGI, there is more freedom to add scenes in post-production. Adding extra scenes with Transformers is currently under consideration.
* As a follow-up, Roberto said one extra scene being considered was director Michael Bay's idea with Bay saying, "You and the fans are gonna love this..."
* Starscream's character will be more similar to his Generation One self.
* Roberto states that Producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura's comments in Empire that there are around 40 robots was not an exaggeration.

[D Mac]

http://13gb.com/media/images/capturedtrolls.jpg

I'm supposed to inform the Noob that posted this that 13gb.com does not allow hot linking.

[Kalyx triaD]

Superbowl Trailer:

<object width="480" height="295"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lpOUz6nmy-I&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lpOUz6nmy-I&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="295"></embed></object>

Ravage, FTW. And the big fucker at the end is not Devastator - just one of the Constructicons.

[Fignuts]

looks hot

[Fignuts]

Also, what the fuck does soundwave transform into?

Pretty sure all the hardcore transformers fans out there are on the verger of a murderous rampage.

[Kalyx triaD]

Also, what the fuck does soundwave transform into?

Pretty sure all the hardcore transformers fans out there are on the verger of a murderous rampage.

Cybertronian jet from the looks of the toy. I've heard his Earth form is a satellite as well. I'm hardcore TF, and I am stoked.

[Fignuts]

As long as he has that kickass voice from the cartoon, or something like it at least.

[G]

trailer is down

[Shaggy]

Word was that Megatron wasnt going to be in the film but in the new toyline for the movie Megatron makes an appearance as a newly improved tank. Now if thats in the movie or not remains to be seen till the movies release. But untill then I just have a huge problem with soundwave being a jet....but then again I guess he couldnt be a tape recorder in this day in age.

[Kalyx triaD]

trailer is down

Fixed.

[Kalyx triaD]

As long as he has that kickass voice from the cartoon, or something like it at least.

Yes, the voice is in. Updated, but it's in. His voice, head, and Ravage were things the writers were serious about.

[Krimzon7]

As long as he has that kickass voice from the cartoon, or something like it at least.

Right Fucking there, brother! I think the voice is just as important, if not more important as him being a casset deck!

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC is going to watch this movie, it is been predestined, but I'm already kinda made that fucking Devastator is a gorilla. What the fuck man.

Also what the hell is Soundwave a jet for, he is a boombox. This angries up my blood.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ah shit, I hit 40,000 post 20 post ago and didn't notice.

[Krimzon7]

congrats anyhow on 40K. I don't get the Devestator/Gorilla thing, but I do agree with making SW more 'modern'. The CGI team goes through great lengths to ensure that these guys aren't shifting mass and all that(I fogot the actual term). An 18 story robot can't become a boom box, unless it's the source.

[BigDaddyCool]

I have no problem with the transformers being updated verision in transformed form, like Starscream can be a new jet, and Bumblebee can be a new VW Beetle (not a fucking Camero, you rat bastards). But Soundwave has to be a boombox, or else being named Soundwave don't make no sence. They could have made that Shockwave.

[Krimzon7]

That is a very good point. I honestly don't care about the accuracy of SOundwave as much as I hope that Starscream gets a bigger better role.

[BigDaddyCool]

Don't talk about Starscream, I'll stab you.

[Jeritron]

Why the fuck would they keep soundwave a boombox int he movie? Maybe if he was supposed to be a little runt, like the guy in the first movie, but this is an action movie. It just doesn't translate to screen.
It's like making bumblebee a fast muscle car, instead of a volkswagen beatle. It just makes sense for heaven's sake. Not everything has to match the children's cartoon from the 80s.

[Krimzon7]

Are you fucking high? Are you happy with the way he was portrayed in the first movie? Starscream needs to have more of a role that is befitting of the second in command of The Decepticons. I will deem TF2 a utter failure if they drop the ball with Starscream.

[Krimzon7]

I liked Soundwave, I LOVED Starscream. I would rather see more of him than an 'accurate' depiciton of Soundwave. Hell, let him be a supersonic jet, or let him have surveilence advantages, just let Starscream rock shit.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why the fuck would they keep soundwave a boombox int he movie? Maybe if he was supposed to be a little runt, like the guy in the first movie, but this is an action movie. It just doesn't translate to screen.
It's like making bumblebee a fast muscle car, instead of a volkswagen beatle. It just makes sense for heaven's sake. Not everything has to match the children's cartoon from the 80s.

Um, shut up, they are robots that transform into shit. I'm sure they could change sizes. Also, with as many plot holes in the first movie, I don't think size discrepancy would matter.

Are you fucking high? Are you happy with the way he was portrayed in the first movie? Starscream needs to have more of a role that is befitting of the second in command of The Decepticons. I will deem TF2 a utter failure if they drop the ball with Starscream.

Starscream is a little bitch, he should be act like a little bitch. Plus he was never second in command, Soundwave and Shockwave both had higher ranks than Starscream. Soundwave was obviously Megatron's right hand man, while Shockwave was left in control of Cybertron. Starscream was air commander at best, but sometimes he would take cues from Thundercracker and Skywarp.

[BigDaddyCool]

I liked Soundwave, I LOVED Starscream. I would rather see more of him than an 'accurate' depiciton of Soundwave. Hell, let him be a supersonic jet, or let him have surveilence advantages, just let Starscream rock shit.

What are you talking about? Starscream was a loud mouth back stabbing asshole. I mean the guy was dangerous, but in a sneaky sort of way.

[Jeritron]

Um, shut up, they are robots that transform into shit. I'm sure they could change sizes. Also, with as many plot holes in the first movie, I don't think size descrapancy would matter.
and Skywarp.

That's not the issue. You missed the point. Why the fuck would they want a radio to be a character in a movie? Where's the sense in that? Let's have this cumbersome, boring, trivial object be a character in our movie.
Yea, I think people would rather see a jet, seeing as it can get from point A to point B in a manner other than being carried on some gangbangers shoulder.
Again, they're making a movie here. It's not saturday morning cartoons for 6 year olds.

[Fignuts]

BDC is going to watch this movie, it is been predestined, but I'm already kinda made that fucking Devastator is a gorilla. What the fuck man.

Also what the hell is Soundwave a jet for, he is a boombox. This angries up my blood.


A kalyx said, that's just his cybertronian form. His earth frm is some sort of satellite thingy. Which I'm ok with, since he still has ravage, and the awesome voice. He would have worked as a casette player 15 years ago, but this is 2009. Some changes have to be made. That combined with the reported old school portrayal of starscream is making me a fan of this already.

[Jeritron]

I'm convinced that the fanboys of the world have gone soft. I just hope the movie has quality. The interesting nature of the robots hasn't been comprimised.

As we were talking about in the GI Joe thread, I don't know why anyone would have a problem with changes as long as the basic ideas are kept in order.

So, when Transformers are new outlandish designs, rather than old outlandish designs: no harm. It's an update, and a freshening for the sake of translation to film.
Let's be honest, jets and fast cars lend themselves to an action movie more than tape recorders and volkswagens.

When what makes the material compelling is utterly ignored, then there's an issue.

I'm pretty sure Transformers still features a range of different cool shit transforming into other cool shit, with colorful and diverse characters.

[BigDaddyCool]

That's not the issue. You missed the point. Why the fuck would they want a radio to be a character in a movie? Where's the sense in that? Let's have this cumbersome, boring, trivial object be a character in our movie.
Yea, I think people would rather see a jet, seeing as it can get from point A to point B in a manner other than being carried on some gangbangers shoulder.
Again, they're making a movie here. It's not saturday morning cartoons for 6 year olds.

You are missing the point, they are pissing on my childhood. That makes me mad. Plus, how badass would it be if they ballsed up and made a Soundwave working boombox toy that transformed into robot mode? Those fuckers would sell like hotcakes, and that is the real point of these movies.

[Fignuts]

What are you talking about? Starscream was a loud mouth back stabbing asshole. I mean the guy was dangerous, but in a sneaky sort of way.

What are YOU talking about? Just because he was a loud mouth backstabbing asshole doesn't mean he can't kick ass too. He was powerful enough to be second in command of the decepticons, ffs.

And he was dangerous in a sneaky sort of way, to Megatron. To the autobots, he was dangerous in an ass kicking sort of way.

Most badass scene in the frst movie was when starscream tore the shit out of those jets. It's great if the rumors are true about his personality being like the cartoon, but I hope he doesn't lose that badass factor from the first one, because he should be powerful, as well as an asshole.

[Jeritron]

BDC has gone bye-bye, do you have any thoughts on the matter Figgy?

hint: you're supposed to say "I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought"

[BigDaddyCool]

I hate you all.

[Fignuts]

I mean his name alone is badass. Starscream is the most badass name ever. I even made a thread on this, and no one could come up with a name more badass than starscream. It stands to reason that he would have to be something of a badass, at least in combat.

[Jeritron]

Starscream is such a badass name, and although he had a small role in the first one I thought he was portrayed awesomely.
I also thought his escape, and surivival was so in character, and will be enhanced in this next one.

Again, not everything has to be touched on in the first, or even second film. They're developing a franchise here, and I thought the simple focus of the first movie was the right move. It paid off.
Now, they should ratchet it up another few notches for the second act. It looks like that's what they're doing.

[Fignuts]

I hate you all.

Maybe you should change your avatar to like Destro or something, because you clearly know nothing about transformers.

[BigDaddyCool]

Destro? I never watched GI Joe. Starscream is a badass name, just not a badass guy.

[Jeritron]

BDC, I think you're being a stickler for details and nostalgic things, which if you step back and look at logically and thematically, are perfectly acceptable and sometimes neccesary to update.
The basic things that should be there, are there.

Now I don't doubt you're a bigger Transformers fan than I am, but I also don't think you're looking at this all as reasonably.

[Jeritron]

I thought it was cool that the army characters from the first film were based off certain G.I Joe characters. They were pretty fun.

[Jeritron]

Oh, and Bumblebee was based off Michael J. Fox. The mannerisms and animation that is. Back to the Future was used as a reference.

[Johnny Vegas]

Yea, was at a superbowl party last night and saw that shit. The trailer was smooth, but what made it so much SMOOTHER was two of these badass girls were at the party and were like OMG I WANT TO SEE THAT, I LOVED THE FIRST ONE...I'm sorry, but hot females who want to see a Transformer Movie = priceless.

[BigDaddyCool]

Why don't they just re-release the Unicorn movie.

I can honestly deal with them updating the cars that everyone is. I hate the look of the robots.

Now if they made Starscream the leader of a pack of jets such as Thundercracker and Skywarp, and maybe even the coneheads, and he was a classic heel where he would have them do all the fighting then come in and kick 'em while they're down, that would be awesome.

[Jeritron]

Next you're going to ask for Dinobots and "You Got The Touch". Some things are better left in the 80's cartoon.


Here's a suggestion of mine though. They're defintiely going to get a trilogy out of this. I hope this next movie is the dark second act.
I think heads should roll. Deaths. To be honest, I think it'd be awesome if they somehow killed off Optimus, or got us to think they did, for his triumphant return in the third movie.

That's just how you need to structure a trilogy. Things need to be shaken up in this second movie, and things need to get dark before they are resolved. I hope they have the balls to go that way.

[BigDaddyCool]

I think they do kill of Optimus. And no I don't want the Dinobots, that would be to dumb. But it would be sweet if Judd Nelson was Hotrod.

[Jeritron]

Don't tell me any of that shit. I don't want spoilers.

[Krimzon7]

Starscream was always a kick ass motherfucker. When Autobots saw that jet, the ran for gotdam cover. When Megatron Killed Brawn, who's hand did he jump into? Starscream. The only truly ledgible fight scenes in the movie was Starscream's decimation of the fighter squadron. His friction with Megatron endeared me to him. I have a problem with authority.

[Jeritron]

Anything involving Judd Nelson is okay in my book.

[BigDaddyCool]

I don't what a complete nostaliga movie, it is just they could have done a lot better keeping orignal themes, while having a modern movie. Plus, lets not kid ourselves, the first one while being a good blow 'em up movie, was awful for basic story telling, plot, and just about everything but special effects, the act was only decent at best. I mean seriously, with as bad as it was, they should have had more nostagia just to trick people like me.

[BigDaddyCool]

Starscream was always a kick ass motherfucker. When Autobots saw that jet, the ran for gotdam cover. When Megatron Killed Brawn, who's hand did he jump into? Starscream. The only truly ledgible fight scenes in the movie was Starscream's decimation of the fighter squadron. His friction with Megatron endeared me to him. I have a problem with authority.

They barely even covered the friction with Megatron.

[Jeritron]

The first movie was fun regardless, but I think what made it so well liked was the stuff with Sam and his parents.

[BigDaddyCool]

It could have been a lot better, that is all I'm saying. For example, instead of making Bumblebee Sam's protector, they could have made Sunstreaker his portector and he could have been a yellow sports car because that is what he is. Thus making it an easier pill for people like me to swallow.

[Jeritron]

Yea, but Bumblebee is more memorable from the cartoon. That's why he was picked. So, unfortunately, you're in the minority.
I get what you're saying, but it's unfair to expect.

[BigDaddyCool]

It is unfair to expect a movie that doesn't suck from Micheal Bay, cause I get that.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, for a guy that still uses a Transformers lunch box, I think I'm being pretty darn reasonable.

[Jeritron]

Most Michael Bay movies did suck, until Transformers.

[BigDaddyCool]

That movie sucked dick as well. I'm going to watch it tonight, but it sucked 3 kinds of ass.

[Krimzon7]

They barely even covered the friction with Megatron.

I covered a number of media in my last post. I spoke about the death of Brawn (TF animated movie), Starscream's sneak attack on the squadron(Michael Bay's film), and the friction between Megs, and Scream (every incarnation of TF except Bay's Movie). Forgive me for not clarifying.

[Fignuts]

I'm hoping that at the end of this movie, the fallen is revealed to be just a precursor to unicron, to set up the third movie.

[Jeritron]

It'd be badass.

[Shadow]

Imagine if the Fallen is the biggest baddast guy in the movie, spends most of his time just ripping shit up only to be finally defeated by a massive push from human and Autobots alike. Imagine that during the credits, we fly throw space, past planets and other stars and the like and we zoom past a very familier gray ring. Then a very familier yellow horn. Then finally... a very familier gaping maw of destruction and death that swallows us up to take us to black.

That, my friends, is how you set up Unicron for the final movie.

[Fignuts]

Dunno. Almost don't want Unicron to be in it, because there is no way that they can come even close to the awesomeness of orson welles for the voice.

Maybe if he doesn't talk, it could work.

[Kalyx triaD]

I made a mistake and glossed over some TF2 spoilers. I caught two major plot going-ons that I will spare you but I will say the stakes are... absurd. I'm talking Empire Strikes Back, "Did we win?" shit. Of course, those bits may be part of Bay's misinformation campaign.

[Kalyx triaD]

I have seen the toy of The Fallen. Judging by the look, the movie version may elicit feelings of Stargate. He has no Earth mode, and at the same time doesn't seem Cybertronian. Wonder how big he'll be.

[94 SVT Cobra]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Azk25EiNfs


superbowl wasnt that long ago, the lurker shouldnt be posting the trailers.


get up on your shit regulars.

[94 SVT Cobra]

and that crazy fuckin thing at the end of the trailer, better be the fucking fallen.

[94 SVT Cobra]

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this ones kinda cool

[Kalyx triaD]

and that crazy fuckin thing at the end of the trailer, better be the fucking fallen.

No, just one Constructicon.

[Kalyx triaD]

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this ones kinda cool

What's this amateur silliness?

[Fignuts]

lol yeah, definitely fake.

[Krimzon7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1377G5j6QE

Imbedding disabled.

[Kalyx triaD]

Pretty weak attempts considering I posted the teaser a week ago. In this thread. A page ago.

[Jeritron]

I can't fuckin stand fake fan trailers. It's especially annoying when you're trying to find a real trailer for something, and you get one of those fakes. 99% of the time it's edited terribly and features the Requiem for a Dream music.

[Kalyx triaD]

lol

[Alan The Rapist]

I was going to quote some people, but fuck it. This movie's going to be even funnier than the first.

[Kalyx triaD]

I was going to quote some people, but fuck it. This movie's going to be even funnier than the first.

Change your fucking name.

[Reavant]

how did he get his name approved?

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't know but it dips into bad taste - even for this place. I disapprove.

[Fignuts]

Whats wrong with being a therapist?

[Fox]

clearly he is a man named Alan who is therapist #316

[Kalyx triaD]

I've seen what I believe is the near final render of The Fallen and Devastator. The Fallen is majestic and probably terrifying when he's revealed to scale. He's seems to transcend Cybertronian aesthetics for, as I stated when I saw the toy, something out of Stargate.

Devastator is a multicolored mish-mash of construction vehicles that could only be fucking huge, especially since he's made up of those huge Earth mover types. He's a disaster movie on two feet, I can't imagine him not raising the stakes by his presence alone.

[Alan The Rapist]

Change your fucking name.

I was told that I can't. :-\

[Kalyx triaD]

I was told that I can't. :-\

Request it.

[Alan The Rapist]

Request it.

Why?

[Kalyx triaD]

Why?

Your name is offensive.

[Krimzon7]

I've seen what I believe is the near final render of The Fallen and Devastator. The Fallen is majestic and probably terrifying when he's revealed to scale. He's seems to transcend Cybertronian aesthetics for, as I stated when I saw the toy, something out of Stargate.

Devastator is a multicolored mish-mash of construction vehicles that could only be fucking huge, especially since he's made up of those huge Earth mover types. He's a disaster movie on two feet, I can't imagine him not raising the stakes by his presence alone.

Where did you find such material? I would like to peruse the source.

[Kalyx triaD]

tfw2005.com
toyark.com

[Krimzon7]

thanks

[Requiem]

Don't ever change your name AlanTheRapist316.

[Shadow]

Also www.allspark.com has info on TF2 as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

Extended Trailer (Offscreen):

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An HD version should be available in a few days.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/Devastator1.jpg

[Fox]

What is the Transformer with the huge wheel towards the end of the trailer?

[Kalyx triaD]

A Constructicon, one of the components of Devastator.

[Fignuts]

What is the Transformer with the huge wheel towards the end of the trailer?

Demolisher.

Reports so far have indicated that he's not a part of devastator, even tho he's a constructicon.

[Kalyx triaD]

Demolisher.

Reports so far have indicated that he's not a part of devastator, even tho he's a constructicon.

Hee hee.

[Fignuts]

I saw a couple sites that listed the different constructicons that make up devastator, and demolisher isn't in them.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, he is.

[Kalyx triaD]

Looking at his part even now in the pic.

[Fignuts]

Well look at any of the sites you got that pic from. They don't list Demolisher as a part of devastator, and he's got his own toy.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're crazy, man. Crazy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Extended Trailer HD:

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[Alan The Rapist]

Devastator (Toy):

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/Devastator1.jpg

It's about taller than the Unicron toy (which is wild), and it may not be sold as a set (seven toys in total). The movie version will be epic. And huge.

I would just like to say: :rofl:

[Requiem]

LOL It looks like he has a cock and balls

[Gerard]

This is gona be confusing for people that aren't into the cartoons, we had "devestator" (brawl) in the first one geting fucked up now in the sequel we have something by the same name but looking totally different.

Thats assuming of course they actually keep the name devestator.

I dont get how that wheel thing was only one of the constructicons, if thats just one (and it looked to be 1.5-2.5x the size of prime) id hate to see how large the fully assembled devestator is. :wtf:

The decepticons badly need mroe screen time to develop their characters more, i think that would be more interesting than listening to labeouf say "nonononononononononnnonononononno" like he does in every fucking movie he's ever been in.

[Jeritron]

PROTIP: Those casual audience you talk about won't remember there was a robot named Devestator in a minor role in the last one. They'll see the familiar old robots battling new and bigger robots. They'll eat it up and there's nothing confusing in a Michael Bay movie about fighting robots.

[Shadow]

What Jeritron said.

[Kalyx triaD]

This is gona be confusing for people that aren't into the cartoons, we had "devestator" (brawl) in the first one geting fucked up now in the sequel we have something by the same name but looking totally different.

Thats assuming of course they actually keep the name devestator.

I dont get how that wheel thing was only one of the constructicons, if thats just one (and it looked to be 1.5-2.5x the size of prime) id hate to see how large the fully assembled devestator is. :wtf:

The decepticons badly need mroe screen time to develop their characters more, i think that would be more interesting than listening to labeouf say "nonononononononononnnonononononno" like he does in every fucking movie he's ever been in.

The 'Cons definitely have more screen time. You will be serviced. And they admitted they goofed with the name in the first movie. If they doule dip the first film I suppose they'll finally fix the name, if they care enough (I would TBH).

PROTIP: Those casual audience you talk about won't remember there was a robot named Devestator in a minor role in the last one. They'll see the familiar old robots battling new and bigger robots. They'll eat it up and there's nothing confusing in a Michael Bay movie about fighting robots.

;)

[BigDaddyCool]

http://ssjlogan.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/300px-devastatormanga1.jpg>http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/Devastator1.jpg

[BigDaddyCool]

Extended Trailer HD:

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:mad:This makes me so angry.

[Kalyx triaD]

That trailer is awesome.

[Jeritron]

Yea

[Fignuts]

:mad:This makes me so angry.

y

[BigDaddyCool]

CAUSE I'M A TRANSFORMERS TRADITIONALIST AND THIS ISN'T WHAT I'M ABOUT. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I hate the look of the robots.

[Jeritron]

BDC, you stagger me. You'll brood around the wrestling forum complaining about the logic behind wrestling 101 faces/heels, but disregard logic in making a transformer for a movie into a jet instead of a tape recorder.

[Jeritron]

<3 I guess

[Kalyx triaD]

CAUSE I'M A TRANSFORMERS TRADITIONALIST AND THIS ISN'T WHAT I'M ABOUT. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I hate the look of the robots.

I would have gave the green light for a look closer to the Alternators line but I'm used to it now.

[Kalyx triaD]

BDC, you stagger me. You'll brood around the wrestling forum complaining about the logic behind wrestling 101 faces/heels, but disregard logic in making a transformer for a movie into a jet instead of a tape recorder.

:lol:

[Jeritron]

I guess you can take comfort by devising a way to construe this as non-canon

[Kalyx triaD]

I guess you can take comfort by devising a way to construe this as non-canon

Duh.

[Jeritron]

Are arm cannons canon?

[Kalyx triaD]

Common sense even, Bay never set out to rewrite the mythology.

None of these directors ever do, it's just certain people make them out to be. When in doubt, go back to source material - problem solved. I don't like the Evangelion revamp (hate it even), but guess what; original box set awaits my viewing pleasure. I win. Same outcome if Weta fucks up the live-action production.

Nobody's ruining anybody's childhoods.

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC, you stagger me. You'll brood around the wrestling forum complaining about the logic behind wrestling 101 faces/heels, but disregard logic in making a transformer for a movie into a jet instead of a tape recorder.

What, why make Soundwave into a jet? We already have Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet, Astrotrain, Dirge, Cyclonus, Thrusy, Scourge, and Blitzwing. But no, lets make Soundwave into a jet because we can't think of a jet Decepticon we haven't used yet. So yeah, lets make Soundwave into a jet as well, makes prefect fucking sence.

I can deal with Megatron being some sort of flying thing, but come on, Soundwave, does that sound like the name of a robot jet?

[BigDaddyCool]

Are arm cannons canon?

On Megatron and Glavatron they are.

[Jeritron]

Why not? And please with all those names. As far as I know only one of those is in the movies. And does it sound like the name of a robot jet? Yes. It does. Seeing as jets break the sound barrier and what not. Sounds just as much like a jet as any of the other names sound like what they are.

[Kalyx triaD]

What, why make Soundwave into a jet? We already have Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet, Astrotrain, Dirge, Cyclonus, Thrusy, Scourge, and Blitzwing. But no, lets make Soundwave into a jet because we can't think of a jet Decepticon we haven't used yet. So yeah, lets make Soundwave into a jet as well, makes prefect fucking sence.

I can deal with Megatron being some sort of flying thing, but come on, Soundwave, does that sound like the name of a robot jet?

To be honest I don't think 'trucks' when I hear Optimus Prime.

[Kalyx triaD]

Perfect. Slightly off topic but the themes match. I'm pretty much with this guy 90% of the way, but I do think there were good game-movies. (http://kotaku.com/5155685/why-youll-never-be-happy-with-video-game-films)

I have this thread coming up that actually goes into how I think videogame/comic/geek-fare movies have been reviewed incorrectly for the last 10 years, but I'm still working out that piece.

[Gerard]

http://ssjlogan.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/300px-devastatormanga1.jpg>http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/Devastator1.jpg

Striking similarity. :wtf:

[Kalyx triaD]

http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/9/91/G1devastator_toy.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2009/02/Devastator1.jpg

Bay wins.

[BigDaddyCool]

Actaully the devistor toy, the only really problem I have is the face. I hate its face. The colors don't bother me at all.

[Kalyx triaD]

Better than Barricade bug-face.

[Alan The Rapist]

I still don't see why anyone can really get "excited" for this movie.

[Fignuts]

It's giant transforming robots beating the shit out of one another.

If you can't get excited by that, then you need prozac.

[Alan The Rapist]

Mayhaps. I just don't see "Wooo! A shitty movie!" as a natural battlecry.

[Kalyx triaD]

Alan... The Rapist.

[Fox]

Mayhaps. I just don't see "Wooo! A shitty movie!" as a natural battlecry.

Michael Bay makes entertainment. He's not going for any Oscars here. It's going to be darker, more violent and bigger than the first one, and I for one am very excited about it.

Everything can't be "The Wrestler," you know?

[Bo]

It's giant transforming robots beating the shit out of one another.

If you can't get excited by that, then you need prozac.


That is one of the funniest things I have ever read on here. :rofl: Going into my sig.

[Alan The Rapist]

Michael Bay makes entertainment. He's not going for any Oscars here. It's going to be darker, more violent and bigger than the first one, and I for one am very excited about it.

Everything can't be "The Wrestler," you know?

Michael Bay does not "make entertainment". He produces well. His movies always have good visuals -- when he's producing. He has no idea what makes a decent script or how to direct anything.

And besides, "The Wrestler" -- which I haven't seen -- IS entertainment. Any movie that's good is entertaining. That is to say, it doesn't have to be mindless drivel to be entertaining: it has to make you happy that you watched. And a sloppy sequel to a sloppy movie doesn't strike me as entertainment. If that's what you call enticing, then that's great. But bad is still bad.

[Kalyx triaD]

Michael Bay does not "make entertainment". He produces well. His movies always have good visuals -- when he's producing. He has no idea what makes a decent script or how to direct anything.

And besides, "The Wrestler" -- which I haven't seen -- IS entertainment. Any movie that's good is entertaining. That is to say, it doesn't have to be mindless drivel to be entertaining: it has to make you happy that you watched. And a sloppy sequel to a sloppy movie doesn't strike me as entertainment. If that's what you call enticing, then that's great. But bad is still bad.

:n: Try again.

[Fignuts]

Michael Bay does not "make entertainment". He produces well. His movies always have good visuals -- when he's producing. He has no idea what makes a decent script or how to direct anything.

And besides, "The Wrestler" -- which I haven't seen -- IS entertainment. Any movie that's good is entertaining. That is to say, it doesn't have to be mindless drivel to be entertaining: it has to make you happy that you watched. And a sloppy sequel to a sloppy movie doesn't strike me as entertainment. If that's what you call enticing, then that's great. But bad is still bad.

It's a lot easier to get excited when you are going solely for the giant robots, and not for great plot development.

[Jeritron]

Alan is right about one thing. The Wrestler (and films with GREAT movie status that were implied) are entertaining. I don't think anyone claimed otherwise about better films.

I disagree with the rest though.

When someone says "Transformers is entertaining", it doesn't neccesarilly mean that greater films aren't entertaining too. They are. Perhaps moreso.

It's not so black and white though. It's not like only great or well above average movies can be entertaining. Their level of brilliance is what distinguishes them as great. But there is also such a thing as "good" and "pretty good", or "above average".
It's not as if there's only high art, and then everything else is garbage.

Just because a film isn't high art, doesn't mean it's garbage. Not every movie sets out to explore the human condition or move the art forward. Some just set out to thrill, or entertain.

There is such a thing as good movies that don't hold a candle to great ones. Subtle levels my friend. It's the essence of criticism and your own enjoyment. The sooner you realize this about the movie industry, the better it will be for you.

[Kalyx triaD]

Your post structure sets trends.

[Jeritron]

like what

[Kalyx triaD]

Good ones.

[Jeritron]

Unfortunately I don't get through to some

[thedamndest]

I just read that article that Kalyx posted. I agree with it to a degree, but I think, to a degree, the problem is more than just taking a random game and giving it a Hollywood ending and making it so the gamers hate it and the masses are still not interested.

Compare original Punisher and original Captain America from a decade or more ago to your Spider-Man and your Dark Knights of today. What changed? We went from okay movies to record breaking box office hits. Even graphic novels that people have never heard of (Watchmen) are getting made. Not saying every comic movie has or will be a smash hit, but it is no longer "oh, a comic movie? Eh." They're a legit deal.

So basically, what happened with comics needs to happen with video games for there to ever be a "good video game movie" that pleases the masses and the fans. It would probably be Metal Gear Solid or GTA because those are two of the most ubiquituos. Games are sophisticated enough now that you really shouldn't need to do anything to them plotwise or even much visually (though I could see why they did what they did with Doom, because having just one guy going aroung fragging monsters would have been boring).

[Jeritron]

Superhero movies made the jump thanks to two things. One was special effects allowing for them to be possible.
Another was the first Tim Burton Batman, allowing them to be darker and more "serious."
They came a long way from there, but it was a huge breakthrough at the time.

Video game movies have the effects at their disposal to be realized on film. That's not the problem.
The problem is they need a Batman, or Xmen like breakthrough to start the trend. What franchise has that potential both in terms of popularity and depth of story?
I honestly don't know.
This leads back to my argument that games can never compare or easily transform to movies because they lack the same storytelling priorities. Comics are about telling stories visually, and so are movies. Key word:telling.
Video games are about involving the "viewer" as a player. They're not designed, at least fully, to be thematic and deep. The storyline can be strong, but at the end of the day it revolves around facilitating interesting interactive situations, and exciting things to shoot or race from. You are not being fully told the story. There's less authorship. The player takes control at some point.

It's not the same.


Maybe something like Halo could really break the glass ceiling, if the entire premise was gutted and written for the screen and injected with some thematic elements. It has to be something of that cultural level, helmed by someone like Peter Jackson or James Cameron. Nothing less will suffice. I don't see how anyone can expect a second rate franchise, directed by a second rate director to get over on any meaningful level.
It HAS to be huge, and handled seriously by someone who is concerned with making the best possible movie with the basic source material. If they try to follow it too closely or play to fanboys, it's gonna be a video game cinematic in movie form and that has sucked.

The problem with video game movies is that they're made like video games. It's not about characters and themes.

[Fox]

The superhero genre took a huge boom after 9/11. Spider-Man (2002) was the beginning of the trend. In a world plunged into uncertainty and villainy, it's no wonder that people began taking more closely to stories about people who had the power to save the world.

[Requiem]

Some of the best video games don't -need- to be movies, as they practically are, and they make just about as much as those box office hits.

[Jeritron]

I agree with that, Fox. My friend actually wrote his film theory paper on it. The only thing is, the studios began buying up all the movie rights and planning the productions after Xmen, and before Spider-Man.

Spider-Man and the post-911 reaction obviously helped the success of the films, but it had started anyways.

[Fignuts]

So basically, what happened with comics needs to happen with video games for there to ever be a "good video game movie" that pleases the masses and the fans. It would probably be Metal Gear Solid

Sure as long as they keep Kojima away from it.

[thedamndest]

The problem with video game movies is that they're made like video games. It's not about characters and themes.

This is true. If you made Solid Snake a legit hero or the guy from Vice City a legit...well he didn't have much character.

I see what you're saying about games and yes, in games there is usually a test of repetitive skill rather than an involving story. I would hope to cull games that are on the more involving story end of things. There are plenty out there. I think what will really hurt them though is the lack of awareness. Video game movies don't tend to get marketed that well (probably because they are already doomed) so even if somebody wanted to see or rent House of Dead, how would they know? That may change, as a lot of games are played online. I really think that is changing the way people play games, so as the medium evolves it may have long-term effects in other areas of culture, but that is speculative.

I'm not saying that it would or should happen very often. I just think there is a way to reconcile what the public would watch and what fanboys expect.

[Kalyx triaD]

David Hayter has an MGS script, but for whatever reason they're not biting. That to me is insane - what better guy to consider than the one who has so much experience on the game plots, and is a good screenplay writer himself?

I think Mortal Kombat was a really decent videogame movie, though it didn't kick off a trend. Resident Evil was also good, then great when compared to the latter films.

The genre has a long way to go before it hits TDK levels of polish and success. Maybe a generation away even.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Kalyx triaD]

I think I'm going to pursue Frank [Welker] on Soundwave.

Win.

[Alan The Rapist]

Alan is right about one thing. The Wrestler (and films with GREAT movie status that were implied) are entertaining. I don't think anyone claimed otherwise about better films.

I disagree with the rest though.

When someone says "Transformers is entertaining", it doesn't neccesarilly mean that greater films aren't entertaining too. They are. Perhaps moreso.

It's not so black and white though. It's not like only great or well above average movies can be entertaining. Their level of brilliance is what distinguishes them as great. But there is also such a thing as "good" and "pretty good", or "above average".
It's not as if there's only high art, and then everything else is garbage.

Just because a film isn't high art, doesn't mean it's garbage. Not every movie sets out to explore the human condition or move the art forward. Some just set out to thrill, or entertain.

There is such a thing as good movies that don't hold a candle to great ones. Subtle levels my friend. It's the essence of criticism and your own enjoyment. The sooner you realize this about the movie industry, the better it will be for you.

I'm a fan of Mystery Science Theater, RiffTrax and Cinematic Titanic. In that aspect, yeah, movies like TransFormers and Batman & Robin are phenominal. Otherwise, bad movies are just bad movies. And, I hate to crack the glass, but TF was just really bad.

[Fignuts]

I wouldn't go as far as to say Transformers was "really bad". Just seems really harsh considering it's a simple summer action flick.

Troll 2 was really bad. Dragonball will be really bad.

Honestly, if you think transformers was really bad, then you took it too seriously. Just my thought on it.

[Kalyx triaD]

I love TF. Rockin good time, really.

[Jeritron]

Transformers is fun as hell. Also, I'm sure a few on here can sense that I can be tough on movies.
It is by no means "really bad." That doesn't mean you have to like it.
Fear dot com is a really bad movie.

[Johnny Vegas]

God damn i just saw the "extended" trailer......

[Kalyx triaD]

This is fucking awesome!

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Gerard]

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Looks like they responded to people not liking bumble bee's voice even though he had 2 short sentences in the first movie.

Ultimately from a stroyline point of view its a dumb decision, in the first movie frenzy got his whole body regenerated by the allspark just by being near it, yet bumblebee was holding it and it obviously didn't help him with his vocal problems, or later when he had his legs bown off and he was holding it.

:wtf:

[Kalyx triaD]

Or revive Jazz or affect the machines that held it at the dam. Hey, whatchagonndo, right? Looks like a kick ass movie.

[LoDownM]

Any movie that has Megan Fox taking clothes off is a winner in my book.

But seriously, can't wait for this to come out.

[Shadow]

Any movie that has Megan Fox taking clothes off is a winner in my book.

But seriously, can't wait for this to come out.

[Kalyx triaD]

Frank Welker confirmed as Soundwave.

[Shadow]

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Welp that's offical....this movie can do no wrong.

[Shadow]

Oh...before I forget....new Trailer being released to the general public on the 30th. New scenes and some new info shall be revealed.

Including Megan Fox in a Bikini straddling a motercycle.

[Shaggy]

Oh...before I forget....new Trailer being released to the general public on the 30th. New scenes and some new info shall be revealed.

Including Megan Fox in a Bikini straddling a motercycle.

If your in a hurry to see it you can head to movieblog.com

Its a few posts down but they have the trailer up there. Its not a full screen type of trailer but it is the newest one just filmed by some kid in the theater.

Im assuming this is gonna be one of the new trailers in front of Wolverin alone side GI Joe which also gets a full trailer this weekend.

[Shadow]

So uh...remember how I said Megan Fox was in a Bikini straddling a motercycle? I was wrong.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809943432/trailer

Just really...really...tight jeans.

[LoDownM]

I would like that pic in HD quality for my background.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Shadow]

So uh...remember how I said Megan Fox was in a Bikini straddling a motercycle? I was wrong.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809943432/trailer

Just really...really...tight jeans.

Ahe-hem....

[Kalyx triaD]

http://images.toywizard.net/0001/transformers-movie-ez-collection-dx-devastator-550x378.jpg

[Fignuts]

Kalyx, the rest of us don't play with toys. Posting that is pointless.

[thedamndest]

Given the amount of porn and toys Kalyx posts, he was and still is the kid who if you go over to his house all of his toys are sticky.

[Shadow]

Kalyx, the rest of us don't play with toys. Posting that is pointless.

Fuck you. I still play with my Transformers toys.

And Devestator looks awsome!

[Kalyx triaD]

Kalyx, the rest of us don't play with toys. Posting that is pointless.

Given the amount of porn and toys Kalyx posts, he was and still is the kid who if you go over to his house all of his toys are sticky.

Alright, fuckers, I suppose I actually had to write that this is gives us a look at all the Constructicons and their forms for the first time altogether by checking out this stylized toy of them. I was hoping I wouldn't have to write that shit, what with you guys being apt and all. But here I am.

Ladies and fucking idiots: this toy, however simplified for kids, reveals the whole Devastator team as well as their forms. Notice some forms are high concept and are not humanoid. Also, two of these guys were never revealed until this very pic dropped on the internets (top and mid right).

Your welcome, for fuck sake.

[G]

So why is Megatron something different now. Something with wheels. Is this an answer only the movie will give, or do you know, Kalyx triaD?

[Adder]

I didn't like the first movie. Hard to care about machines, there's no attachment to them for me at all. That movie was just a big pile of action sequences that meant nothing to me. Just thought I'd put that out there.

[Jeritron]

You can't care about machines? What about R2D2? What about Short Circuit? Wall E? What about Arnie in T2?

[Reavant]

Yea and what about wanting to bang the TX in T3?

[Kalyx triaD]

So why is Megatron something different now. Something with wheels. Is this an answer only the movie will give, or do you know, Kalyx triaD?

Yeah, Megatron's a Cybertronian tank now (with a bulkier, badass robot form to go with it). The reason is slightly pretentious... Spoilers:

When the Constructicons locate Megs at the bottom of the sea, they repair him with treads presumably from the Constructicon with a crawler-vehicle alt. form. They also donate parts of their spark to bring him to life. Essentially he's reformatted, and most TF fans get that because it's a major event in TF lore. The problem is they're not gonna call him Galvatron because the non-TF raised fan may get confused. But we know better so just replace anytime they say Megatron with Galvatron. And he has his arm cannon now.

[Fignuts]

I didn't like the first movie. Hard to care about machines, there's no attachment to them for me at all. That movie was just a big pile of action sequences that meant nothing to me. Just thought I'd put that out there.

It's not just a machine. It's Optimus fucking Prime. They even got the same guy from the cartoon to do the voice. What did you watch when you were a kid? PBS?

[G]

I watched Under the Umbrella Tree and Wishbone. :(

[Fignuts]

Adder is a machinecist. That's the problem.

[Shadow]

We should kill Adder to prevent him from spreading his seed.