Message to Vince Mchmahon

[taker707]

How hard headed and stubborn is Vince? If people wanted to watch a game show, then Howie Mandell has one over on NBC. We are wrestling fans Vince. And the reason the ratings are down is because your wrestling product stinks right now. It's predictable and getting harder to watch every week. I've basically stopped watching ECW and Smackdown in recent months because I have found better things to do with my extra 3 hours a week. And this is coming from a diehard, hardcore 18 year wwe fan.
This million dollar joke is an act of desparation. Look in the mirror Vince.
There was nothing entertaining about last nights episode, besides the Jericho segment. We've all seen the tired Mae Young kissing segments, John Cena vs Jelly Belly Layfield, and "money money yeah yeah" dances countless times. If Vince really wants to reward the fans he will stop shoving Cena as a face down our throats. In 1997 the Bret Hart heel turn was created by the fans and it was one of the most entertaining periods in wwe history. Let the fans decide who they want to cheer and boo. And Big Poppa Pump was on the money when he noted the rating slumps caused by another * Yawn *, excuse me, Triple H title reign.
They need to get rid of ECW and focus on the 2 original brands. One of the biggest problems is there is too much wrestling on tv and not enough ideas to cover it, hence Colin Delany vs Estrada. Mike Knox vs Stevie Richards. Get my point?
The philosophy that the announcers are always baffled by every development is getting old and makes us fans look dumb. I..I...I... I don't know, do you, Tazz?
My point is that major changes in wrestling philosophy need to be done and not just a stupid 3 hour draft. The renaisance that wrestling had a decade ago wasn't caused by Vince. He took alot of ideas from Bischoff and Heyman and mixed it into a show never before seen by wwe fans. And I don't think he is capable of doing it again.

[El Fangel]

I know at least one person on here is not going to bitch about Vinnys game show.

[Lux]

Why is he alive?

[taker707]

Why is he alive?

Who u talkin about

[Shadow]

You.

[Lux]

Shadow's got it right :y:

[MCEazy]

No offence but i was too lazy to read any of that fuk....

[Lux]

READ IT :mad:

[MCEazy]

READ IT :mad:

but its soo long :(

[Lux]

Who choose to enter the thread :rant:

[MCEazy]

point taken lol

[El Fangel]

but its soo long :(

:nono:

[Lux]

but its soo long :(

:nono:

/\ :yes:

[MCEazy]

Well actually reading it now, he's pretty much right, raw has been going downhill for quite awhile now and dumb gimmick's like giving away million's of dollars and the like aren't helping anything while the overall product itself is getting worse.

[Lux]

Just say he's wrong and i'll like you :mad:

[Londoner]

Wow, what a pointless thread.

[Destor]

He bgins by saying that it's a wrestling show and not a game show and then goes on to say there is too much wrestling...

[Londoner]

Even more pointless and stupid than i first thought, then.

[DaVe]

Taker707, Vince McMahon doesn't visit these forums so your message goes in vain.

[Afterlife]

He bgins by saying that it's a wrestling show and not a game show and then goes on to say there is too much wrestling...

That's out of context.

He means, clearly, that there are too many shows, or brand names. But when you get down to it, there isn't much wrestling on the "wrestling shows". They all consist of yammering, bickering, insinuated sex, and now raffles.

And to a degree, he's right. I watch all three WWE shows, but we could do with more actual wrestling and less predictability.

[Destor]

One of the biggest problems is there is too much wrestling on tv and not enough ideas to cover it, hence Colin Delany vs Estrada. Mike Knox vs Stevie Richards. Get my point?
Sounds like he's against the wrestling here.

[Afterlife]

What he's against is useless booking. Stevie/Knox didn't go anywhere; it hurt Stevie and did nothing for Mike. And "New kid/underdog vs. oppressive bully boss". I don't think there's much debate in that tired bit.

Not to mention, the vast majority of these two lines was squash matches.

[Destor]

Good points all around. I'd rep you if I could, but alas I can not at this time.

[Afterlife]

Understood. :y:

[Kane Knight]

If people wanted to see softcore porn, they'd go to Skinemax. Doesn't stop useless T&A. Or TNA.

[Fabien Barthez]

Raw has been this bad since Mania. Well, WWE for that matter.

I don't really want to be anymore negative about it than I already have been the last few months. I reserve my judgement on whether I continue to follow WWE until after the first month or so of the draft. Last time I was this bored of the product, Stone Cold Steve Austin and DX came out of nowhere and compelled me to keep watching.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

(T):@(T)

[Afterlife]

:wtf:

[Destor]

(L):#(L)

[Afterlife]

:wtf: x 2.

[Fabien Barthez]

I don't think Wrestling fans are stupid.....

[Kane Knight]

I don't think Wrestling fans are stupid.....

Really?

[FourFifty]

Taker707, it sounds like you watch wrestling just because want to bitch about stuff. Next time, how about you bitch about the cost of gas, the war in Iraq, the time you got herpes from that one dude, or something else.
I've been saying this for years- I hate it when people watch wrestling just to bitch about it.

[Afterlife]

I prefer it to people who complain about it without watching.

[FourFifty]

Good point

[addy2hotty]

Message to Vince McMahon - you suck.

[Kane Knight]

I prefer it to people who complain about it without watching.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Afterlife]

You got me, Jack. I have no idea what your deal is.

[The Optimist]

I will never get tired of that Money-Money, Yeah-Yeah.

[Xero]

Hey,

I just wanted to thank you for being concerned. Thanks for being a fan and for your forum posting.

Vince McMahon

[BigDaddyCool]

Taker707, it sounds like you watch wrestling just because want to bitch about stuff. Next time, how about you bitch about the cost of gas, the war in Iraq, the time you got herpes from that one dude, or something else.
I've been saying this for years- I hate it when people watch wrestling just to bitch about it.

You are just saying that because you won $200,000.00.

[addy2hotty]

Message to Vince McMahon - hey, can I get a coupla lines?

[Kane Knight]

Message from Vince McMahon--Got any spare change?

[KingofKings]

I just said this in another post....

WCW planned to do a money give away when they were nearly down and out, but stopped it before it got sorted. They also got rock bands to do live performances on their shows. Basically my point is they did these things to try and boost ratings, without looking at the wrestling or wrestlers first, like a quick fix!! WWE is basically doing exactly the same right now!

your thoughts...

[Afterlife]

I"ve had a WCW feeling since Backlash. The scary thing about that is I never watched WCW.

[PapaGeorgio]

I wish WWE turns into WCW, cause WCW rocked. NITRO FAN FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Xero]

I just said this in another post....

WCW planned to do a money give away when they were nearly down and out, but stopped it before it got sorted. They also got rock bands to do live performances on their shows. Basically my point is they did these things to try and boost ratings, without looking at the wrestling or wrestlers first, like a quick fix!! WWE is basically doing exactly the same right now!

your thoughts...

Well, Vince always likes to one-up the Bisch whenever he can...

I think his train of though it "I'm going to see how much farther I can take it than Bischoff did". I'd say by the end of the year he'll be able to rub it in Bischoff's face and we can move on.

[nailz]

you guys should go outside and play

[Xero]

I wish WWE turns into WCW, cause WCW rocked. NITRO FAN FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Arquette = BEST CHAMPION EVAR!

[nailz]

in the road

[nailz]

you guys look like kane knight?

[Afterlife]

No, John Candy looks like KK. Before he died, I mean.

[nailz]

i thought it was after he died

[Afterlife]

I knew you'd say that. But no, I don't think anyone here looks like a corpse.

[nailz]

i do, thats why i have no picture

[Afterlife]

THen I retract my statement.

[Lux]

I hate nailz