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Old 06-12-2008, 04:23 AM   #1
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How hard headed and stubborn is Vince? If people wanted to watch a game show, then Howie Mandell has one over on NBC. We are wrestling fans Vince. And the reason the ratings are down is because your wrestling product stinks right now. It's predictable and getting harder to watch every week. I've basically stopped watching ECW and Smackdown in recent months because I have found better things to do with my extra 3 hours a week. And this is coming from a diehard, hardcore 18 year wwe fan.
This million dollar joke is an act of desparation. Look in the mirror Vince.
There was nothing entertaining about last nights episode, besides the Jericho segment. We've all seen the tired Mae Young kissing segments, John Cena vs Jelly Belly Layfield, and "money money yeah yeah" dances countless times. If Vince really wants to reward the fans he will stop shoving Cena as a face down our throats. In 1997 the Bret Hart heel turn was created by the fans and it was one of the most entertaining periods in wwe history. Let the fans decide who they want to cheer and boo. And Big Poppa Pump was on the money when he noted the rating slumps caused by another * Yawn *, excuse me, Triple H title reign.
They need to get rid of ECW and focus on the 2 original brands. One of the biggest problems is there is too much wrestling on tv and not enough ideas to cover it, hence Colin Delany vs Estrada. Mike Knox vs Stevie Richards. Get my point?
The philosophy that the announcers are always baffled by every development is getting old and makes us fans look dumb. I..I...I... I don't know, do you, Tazz?
My point is that major changes in wrestling philosophy need to be done and not just a stupid 3 hour draft. The renaisance that wrestling had a decade ago wasn't caused by Vince. He took alot of ideas from Bischoff and Heyman and mixed it into a show never before seen by wwe fans. And I don't think he is capable of doing it again.

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Old 06-12-2008, 04:28 AM   #2
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:53 AM   #3
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:54 AM   #4
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:55 AM   #5
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:25 AM   #7
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:33 AM   #8
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:37 AM   #11
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:39 AM   #12
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:40 AM   #13
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:44 AM   #14
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Well actually reading it now, he's pretty much right, raw has been going downhill for quite awhile now and dumb gimmick's like giving away million's of dollars and the like aren't helping anything while the overall product itself is getting worse.
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:21 AM   #16
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:33 AM   #17
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He bgins by saying that it's a wrestling show and not a game show and then goes on to say there is too much wrestling...
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:35 AM   #18
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Even more pointless and stupid than i first thought, then.
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:40 AM   #19
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:00 AM   #20
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He bgins by saying that it's a wrestling show and not a game show and then goes on to say there is too much wrestling...
That's out of context.

He means, clearly, that there are too many shows, or brand names. But when you get down to it, there isn't much wrestling on the "wrestling shows". They all consist of yammering, bickering, insinuated sex, and now raffles.

And to a degree, he's right. I watch all three WWE shows, but we could do with more actual wrestling and less predictability.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:02 AM   #21
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One of the biggest problems is there is too much wrestling on tv and not enough ideas to cover it, hence Colin Delany vs Estrada. Mike Knox vs Stevie Richards. Get my point?
Sounds like he's against the wrestling here.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:04 AM   #22
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What he's against is useless booking. Stevie/Knox didn't go anywhere; it hurt Stevie and did nothing for Mike. And "New kid/underdog vs. oppressive bully boss". I don't think there's much debate in that tired bit.

Not to mention, the vast majority of these two lines was squash matches.
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:27 AM   #23
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Old 06-12-2008, 07:29 AM   #24
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:21 AM   #25
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Old 06-12-2008, 09:37 AM   #26
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Raw has been this bad since Mania. Well, WWE for that matter.

I don't really want to be anymore negative about it than I already have been the last few months. I reserve my judgement on whether I continue to follow WWE until after the first month or so of the draft. Last time I was this bored of the product, Stone Cold Steve Austin and DX came out of nowhere and compelled me to keep watching.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:37 AM   #28
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:42 AM   #29
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:44 AM   #30
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I don't think Wrestling fans are stupid.....
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:22 PM   #32
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:22 PM   #33
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Taker707, it sounds like you watch wrestling just because want to bitch about stuff. Next time, how about you bitch about the cost of gas, the war in Iraq, the time you got herpes from that one dude, or something else.
I've been saying this for years- I hate it when people watch wrestling just to bitch about it.
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:26 PM   #34
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I prefer it to people who complain about it without watching.
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:33 PM   #35
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:57 PM   #36
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:36 PM   #37
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:52 PM   #38
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:44 PM   #39
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Old 06-12-2008, 06:59 PM   #40
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Hey,

I just wanted to thank you for being concerned. Thanks for being a fan and for your forum posting.

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