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taker707 06-12-2008 04:23 AM

Message to Vince Mchmahon
 
How hard headed and stubborn is Vince? If people wanted to watch a game show, then Howie Mandell has one over on NBC. We are wrestling fans Vince. And the reason the ratings are down is because your wrestling product stinks right now. It's predictable and getting harder to watch every week. I've basically stopped watching ECW and Smackdown in recent months because I have found better things to do with my extra 3 hours a week. And this is coming from a diehard, hardcore 18 year wwe fan.
This million dollar joke is an act of desparation. Look in the mirror Vince.
There was nothing entertaining about last nights episode, besides the Jericho segment. We've all seen the tired Mae Young kissing segments, John Cena vs Jelly Belly Layfield, and "money money yeah yeah" dances countless times. If Vince really wants to reward the fans he will stop shoving Cena as a face down our throats. In 1997 the Bret Hart heel turn was created by the fans and it was one of the most entertaining periods in wwe history. Let the fans decide who they want to cheer and boo. And Big Poppa Pump was on the money when he noted the rating slumps caused by another * Yawn *, excuse me, Triple H title reign.
They need to get rid of ECW and focus on the 2 original brands. One of the biggest problems is there is too much wrestling on tv and not enough ideas to cover it, hence Colin Delany vs Estrada. Mike Knox vs Stevie Richards. Get my point?
The philosophy that the announcers are always baffled by every development is getting old and makes us fans look dumb. I..I...I... I don't know, do you, Tazz?
My point is that major changes in wrestling philosophy need to be done and not just a stupid 3 hour draft. The renaisance that wrestling had a decade ago wasn't caused by Vince. He took alot of ideas from Bischoff and Heyman and mixed it into a show never before seen by wwe fans. And I don't think he is capable of doing it again.

El Fangel 06-12-2008 04:28 AM

I know at least one person on here is not going to bitch about Vinnys game show.

Lux 06-12-2008 04:53 AM

Why is he alive?

taker707 06-12-2008 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.0 (Post 2183901)
Why is he alive?

Who u talkin about

Shadow 06-12-2008 04:55 AM

You.

Lux 06-12-2008 04:57 AM

Shadow's got it right :y:

MCEazy 06-12-2008 05:25 AM

No offence but i was too lazy to read any of that fuk....

Lux 06-12-2008 05:33 AM

READ IT :mad:

MCEazy 06-12-2008 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.0 (Post 2183928)
READ IT :mad:

but its soo long :(

Lux 06-12-2008 05:36 AM

Who choose to enter the thread :rant:

MCEazy 06-12-2008 05:37 AM

point taken lol

El Fangel 06-12-2008 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCEazy (Post 2183935)
but its soo long :(

:nono:

Lux 06-12-2008 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCEazy (Post 2183935)
but its soo long :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fallen Angel (Post 2183943)
:nono:

/\ :yes:

MCEazy 06-12-2008 05:44 AM

Well actually reading it now, he's pretty much right, raw has been going downhill for quite awhile now and dumb gimmick's like giving away million's of dollars and the like aren't helping anything while the overall product itself is getting worse.

Lux 06-12-2008 06:09 AM

Just say he's wrong and i'll like you :mad:

Londoner 06-12-2008 06:21 AM

Wow, what a pointless thread.

Destor 06-12-2008 06:33 AM

He bgins by saying that it's a wrestling show and not a game show and then goes on to say there is too much wrestling...

Londoner 06-12-2008 06:35 AM

Even more pointless and stupid than i first thought, then.

DaVe 06-12-2008 06:40 AM

Taker707, Vince McMahon doesn't visit these forums so your message goes in vain.

Afterlife 06-12-2008 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2183974)
He bgins by saying that it's a wrestling show and not a game show and then goes on to say there is too much wrestling...

That's out of context.

He means, clearly, that there are too many shows, or brand names. But when you get down to it, there isn't much wrestling on the "wrestling shows". They all consist of yammering, bickering, insinuated sex, and now raffles.

And to a degree, he's right. I watch all three WWE shows, but we could do with more actual wrestling and less predictability.

Destor 06-12-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

One of the biggest problems is there is too much wrestling on tv and not enough ideas to cover it, hence Colin Delany vs Estrada. Mike Knox vs Stevie Richards. Get my point?
Sounds like he's against the wrestling here.

Afterlife 06-12-2008 07:04 AM

What he's against is useless booking. Stevie/Knox didn't go anywhere; it hurt Stevie and did nothing for Mike. And "New kid/underdog vs. oppressive bully boss". I don't think there's much debate in that tired bit.

Not to mention, the vast majority of these two lines was squash matches.

Destor 06-12-2008 07:27 AM

Good points all around. I'd rep you if I could, but alas I can not at this time.

Afterlife 06-12-2008 07:29 AM

Understood. :y:

Kane Knight 06-12-2008 09:21 AM

If people wanted to see softcore porn, they'd go to Skinemax. Doesn't stop useless T&A. Or TNA.

Fabien Barthez 06-12-2008 09:37 AM

Raw has been this bad since Mania. Well, WWE for that matter.

I don't really want to be anymore negative about it than I already have been the last few months. I reserve my judgement on whether I continue to follow WWE until after the first month or so of the draft. Last time I was this bored of the product, Stone Cold Steve Austin and DX came out of nowhere and compelled me to keep watching.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-12-2008 11:36 AM

(T):@(T)

Afterlife 06-12-2008 11:37 AM

:wtf:

Destor 06-12-2008 11:42 AM

(L):#(L)

Afterlife 06-12-2008 11:44 AM

:wtf: x 2.

Fabien Barthez 06-12-2008 11:56 AM

I don't think Wrestling fans are stupid.....

Kane Knight 06-12-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez (Post 2184212)
I don't think Wrestling fans are stupid.....

Really?

FourFifty 06-12-2008 01:22 PM

Taker707, it sounds like you watch wrestling just because want to bitch about stuff. Next time, how about you bitch about the cost of gas, the war in Iraq, the time you got herpes from that one dude, or something else.
I've been saying this for years- I hate it when people watch wrestling just to bitch about it.

Afterlife 06-12-2008 01:26 PM

I prefer it to people who complain about it without watching.

FourFifty 06-12-2008 01:33 PM

Good point

addy2hotty 06-12-2008 03:57 PM

Message to Vince McMahon - you suck.

Kane Knight 06-12-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2184294)
I prefer it to people who complain about it without watching.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Afterlife 06-12-2008 05:52 PM

You got me, Jack. I have no idea what your deal is.

The Optimist 06-12-2008 06:44 PM

I will never get tired of that Money-Money, Yeah-Yeah.

Xero 06-12-2008 06:59 PM

Hey,

I just wanted to thank you for being concerned. Thanks for being a fan and for your forum posting.

Vince McMahon


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