Armageddon 2008 (Hardy's Time?)

[CSL]

Cena's belly to belly looked more like 2 drunks guy hugging on a really icy day

[Fox]

noooooo!

[Juan]

God I can't stand Cena's on-screen WWE character. He's probably a great guy behind the scenes, but I can't stand watching him wrestle.

[Jeritron]

a win there would have blown my mind

[Jeritron]

lame walls

[Splaya]

KILL HIM


KILL HIM

[Fox]

that was actually the best looking f-u i've seen in a long time.

[Juan]

When was the last time someone tapped to the Walls? I now Paul London did a few months ago, but besides that?

[Fox]

No! It's the gay butt-hug!

[Jeritron]

Fuck that. It was a nicely arranged finish though

[Splaya]

I HATE WRESTLING SO MUCH

[Juan]

SIGH

[KingofOldSchool]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[thedamndest]

Stupid Cena.

[Jeritron]

Lol a blue collar effort by Cena. They have the same mantra for Cena as a McCain campaign. John 6 pack

[KingofOldSchool]

SUCK IT BORICHO!!!!!!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

CCCCCCEEENNNAAAAAAAA

[Juan]

Who calls Cena a throwback? I wanna who it is so I can sucker punch this person.

[Fox]

god damnit. i hate when i'm right when it comes to cena.

[Jeritron]

Christian!

[Mercury Bullet]

Glad I picked tonight to watch wrestling for the first time in a while...

I got to see all that Cena-winning I missed.

[thedamndest]

John Cena is a throwback to the days when things sucked hard balls.

[Lux]

I can predict WreslteMania 25 right now....

[Juan]

I feel like somewhat of a mark for saying this over and over, but God dammit, I cannot for the life of me stand John Cena.

[thedamndest]

This has been a pretty shitty PPV. Kozlov has been the highlight. Fucking Kozlov.

[thedamndest]

Jesus, you've got the marks swerved! Pat yourselves on the back, WWE!

[Jeritron]

I mean, it'd be great if it was Cage who attacked Christian but it'd be awesome if it was HHH too. It'd be so obvious that it'd be shocking. It'd also mark a textbook HHH heel turn/act. Perfect timing for a Hardy/HHH WWE title main event at Mania too.

[Jeritron]

lol if it was Kozlov

[Mystic.Tenshi]

This is the absolute last fucking time I pay for a PPV I swear to God!

[Jeritron]

Smackdown has the best main event picture in a long long time right now. It's really the goods, and will only be more so if Christian gets involved

[thedamndest]

If it was Christian I will fear he gets the WWE-DDP treatment.

[Jeritron]

Plus you gotta love a hotel attack mystery story line. It's a throwback to the attitude era

[thedamndest]

They will bring back Sara.

[Jeritron]

Rikishi attacked Jeff

[Jeritron]

I mean, Jr. Fatu

[KingofOldSchool]

Braden Walker attacked Hardy

[Jeritron]

I still don't like Jeff Hardy's music. I never got used to it. It starts off too slow and uneventful.

[Juan]

Hopefully this main event will save this PPV from being a total waste.

[Mercury Bullet]

So whats up with Hardy and the face paint now?

[KingofOldSchool]

Jeff Hardy is Scott Norwood

[KingofOldSchool]

So whats up with Hardy and the face paint now?

It's the acid...

[Juan]

So whats up with Hardy and the face paint now?

It's a symbol of the mean streak he's been on over the past month or so.

[Mercury Bullet]

I don't know why I didn't think of that in the first place

[thedamndest]

I almost want Kozlov to come back out.

[Fox]

lol theres a sign that says Triple H / Warrior / WrestleMania 25

[Mercury Bullet]

He looks like a cross between Sting and the Joker

[Splaya]

No u don't

[Juan]

Seems like there's a triple threat match at every PPV.

[KingofOldSchool]

WHISKERS IN THE WIND

[Juan]

Botch?

[KingofOldSchool]

BOTCH HARDY

[Juan]

AWESOME!

[Jeritron]

What is it about this match/fued/trio that feels like the attitude era? I mean, more so than just about anything in a long long time. Is it just me?

[AKin3D]

What is it about this match/fued/trio that feels like the attitude era? I mean, more so than just about anything in a long long time. Is it just me?

I don't know, but I feel it too.

[Splaya]

LOL STRIKER MADE SURE TO GRAB THE SLAMMY

[Fox]

maybe because these guys were all there, unlike guys like Orton, Cena, Batista, and Michaels.

[Juan]

What is it about this match/fued/trio that feels like the attitude era? I mean, more so than just about anything in a long long time. Is it just me?

Totally agree. Cena's feuds are so manufactured, but this feels "real" i dunno

[Juan]

Holy Shit

[Splaya]

HOLY SHIT

[Fox]

omg jeff is dead

[Jeritron]

That was a fuckin great spot

[Funky Fly]

What is it about this match/fued/trio that feels like the attitude era? I mean, more so than just about anything in a long long time. Is it just me?

Meaningful storylines? Unexpected swerves? No Hornswoggle?

[thedamndest]

I would say that.

[KingofOldSchool]

OH SHIT!

[Splaya]

That was the best spot all year minus Jeff's swanton from like 8534709347094 feet

[Juan]

Get him Edge

[Fox]

Jeff will come back and win it. This is just like when Benoit got double suplexed through the announce table at WM20.

[Jeritron]

lol at Kozlov

[Juan]

lol you got your wish theddy

[thedamndest]

YES!

[Jeritron]

Matt Hardy! Brothers being acknowledge in kayfabe angles. Blending storylines. Multiple run ins. Run ins not resulting in an immediate finish.

ATTITUDE I TELL YOU!

[Splaya]

This is a sweet match so far

[Juan]

I'll be happy if Edge retains. If HHH wins, we riot.

[thedamndest]

My spot just made the match.

[Splaya]

wtf is going on

[Splaya]

If Jeff wins this place will explode

[Juan]

con-chair-to!

[Juan]

DAMMIT HHH

[Juan]

YES YES YES

[Splaya]

OMG OMG OMG

[Juan]

OH MY FUCKING GOD

[Jeritron]

HOLY SHIT!

[Fox]

WOOOOOOOOOOO

[eazey]

HOLY FUCK

[Juan]

MY GOD, I DON'T BELIEVE IT

[Theo Dious]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Splaya]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[Fox]

JEFF HARDY IS THE NEW WWE CHAMPION!!!

[Lux]

HARDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juan]

DON'T FUCK THIS UP JEFF, PLEASE!

[Theo Dious]

MOTHER FUCKING YES
!@!!!!!!!

[Juan]

REP FOR ALL

[Jeritron]

That was great stuff

[Splaya]

Friend of mine who goes to our local Buffalo Wild Wings just called. Said people are throwing beer and going absolutely insane there

[KingofOldSchool]

Boo

[Dorkchop]

I'm not a big fan of Jeff hardy, but I think it would have been huge if he won the belt at Wrestlemania. I guess this is still pretty big. I'm surprised it happened so soon after Edge won the belt. I guess HHH didn't want to drop the belt to him.

[Jeritron]

Best shit in a long time

[Splaya]

I have chills down my spine

[Mystic.Tenshi]

This is the absolute last fucking time I pay for a PPV I swear to God!

I wholeheartedly retract this statement YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juan]

THIS IS AWESOME *CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP* THIS IS AWESOME

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Cool so the feed I was using froze just at the ending. So I didn't see it...

hope the person running that feed dies a slow, painful, cancerous death</font>

[Dorkchop]

Great match and a great way to get into the holidays and a new year.

[Jeritron]

Not everything has to happen at Mania. It's the storybook version everyone wants for their favorite wrestlers but theres 12 other months a year. It'd be nice to see him get the Austin and Michaels treatments but its not always important and not everyone can be that lucky.

Mick Foley won his title on a random Raw and it's far more memorable and epic than half of the Wrestlemania title wins.
I'm a firm believer that the moment defines the event, and the event doesn't define the moment.
Wrestlemania is full of great moments, making it the greatest event. It doesn't take from this moment that it wasn't there though.
Great stuff.

[Dorkchop]

Let the Hardy Party begin

[Juan]

This PPV totally redeemed itself

[thedamndest]

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! Just goes to show getting you trailer set on fire, being suspended twice for drugs, and being questioned at an airport under suspicious circumstances can pay off if you jump off enough ladders.

[AKin3D]

I'm happy for Jeff. That match saved the PPV 100%.

[Mercury Bullet]

BREAKING NEWS: Jeff Hardy has been suspended following a wellness policy violation.

[Mercury Bullet]

^ The headline is coming. Mark my words.

[Jeritron]

Well it's good to see that fan response still means something somewhere in the WWE

[Splaya]

I have not said this in forever. I cannot wait for SD

[KingofOldSchool]

Let the Hardy Drug Party begin

[Juan]

Who are the mods around here? I need to add a poll to my thread before the buzz wears off.

[CSL]

Meh. Kind of anti-climatic in the end. Dunno if that's just me. I can't help but be sure it's gonna be short reign. Nice match though, maybe I was hoping too much Christian might show

[KingofOldSchool]

Looks like I don't have to watch Smackdown for a while.

[loopydate]

Not everything has to happen at Mania. It's the storybook version everyone wants for their favorite wrestlers but theres 12 other months a year. It'd be nice to see him get the Austin and Michaels treatments but its not always important and not everyone can be that lucky.

Plus, maybe WWE wants to see if Jeff can handle this kind of spotlight without imploding before giving him a WrestleMania Moment. Maybe this is a trial run to see if he can go three months on top without getting suspended again.

[Splaya]

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! Just goes to show getting you trailer set on fire, being suspended twice for drugs, and being questioned at an airport under suspicious circumstances can pay off if you jump off enough ladders.

Honestly, lay off the guy. Yeah shit's happened, but past is past. If he fucks up then he fucks up again and he is gone and I'll eat my words. However, enjoy this moment, the pure shock value of it, and deal

[CSL]

Hey I have a new green blippy thing. Thank you :D

[AKin3D]

Who are the mods around here? I need to add a poll to my thread before the buzz wears off.

Do you really need the poll? I think it's a wash.

[Pardeep 619]

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! Fucking love it right now!! Don't screw up Jeff, please don't screw up

[Lux]

I knew he could do it and I never doubted him.

[Funky Fly]

Who are the mods around here? I need to add a poll to my thread before the buzz wears off.

Me, Loose Cannon and WWKD?. You can edit it in, tho. I ain't doing shit.

[Johnny Vegas]

I bet you that the match at WrestleMania is going to be Edge v Hardy in a Ladder/TLC match for the WWE championship. :drool:

[Mercury Bullet]

I hope he doesn't screw up, but I'm expecting the worst. If he gets busted again I think its walking papers too, not a suspension.

[McLegend]

Pretty cool.

[Lux]

I have faith in Jeff's ability to know that if he does he is out.

He'll lose the title eventually but I predict he will regain it a few times before his carrer ends.

[Rob]

They should have waited til Mania but I'm glad Jeff got the title anyway. Glad I stayed up to see it too. He is probably the last guy left that I would really want to see as a world champion.

[Splaya]

Also, I think it was very awesome how the announcers said nothing while Hardy was walking around

[Afterlife]

That was a good main event.

[Jeritron]

Well that completes the smark wishlist for this year. Punk, Jericho, Hardy

[Jeritron]

If Christian shows up before the year ends everyones had a good year

[thedamndest]

Punk never held the title.

[thedamndest]

He is just now feuding for the IC title.

[Juan]

lol word

[Tazz Dan]

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! Just goes to show getting you trailer set on fire, being suspended twice for drugs, and being questioned at an airport under suspicious circumstances can pay off if you jump off enough ladders.

I don't really want to get into this whole Hardy thing, but think of all the shit Ric Flair pulled in his day. Plus I don't recall Hardy beating his wife ala Austin.

Sure he's fucked up, but there are some top tier former and current guys who I'm sure have done just as much, if not more over their time.

Just my 2c

:love: ya thedy

[RGWhat316]

I am pretty well in shock. I was at a Buffalo Wild Wings for it, and didn't really expect it. I think it's pretty cool, just have to wait and see how long its gonna last. But other than that, none of my favorites won tonight. Orton, Jericho, and Edge all jobbed.

[thedamndest]

You don't make it to the top without getting into, let alone as the owner of the company.

[BobBitchen]

Now we just need a Khali Mae Young romance storyline

Khali Mae Young romance = GOLD

Book it

[Theo Dious]

I will say though, that Hardy standing on that set at the end was a little morbid, what with his house just burned down and all.

[El Fangel]

Holy shit, WWE just redeemed every fucking thing they did over the last year in my mind.

[El Fangel]

Khali Mae Young romance = GOLD

Book it

Somewhere Russo had the same thought.

[Theo Dious]

Holy shit, WWE just redeemed every fucking thing they did over the last year in my mind.

I wouldn't go THAT far, but this is awesome.

[Rob]

You're too easily pleased then dude.

[Theo Dious]

And I say this every time a new champ is crowned, but I hope this leads to the retirement of the (non spinning) spinner belt.

[Jeritron]

I don't even know what they did in the past year that was so bad. It wasn't the best year in wrestling history, but it was a big improvement on the past 4 or 5 years.

[Jeritron]

That's with full acknowlegement to the fact that there was plenty of shit booking and head-scratchers to speak of.
I just felt the amount of mark out moments, and the overall freshness and change that occured this year was greater than the very trite string of years before it.
It's a good thing when the promotion and respective brands feel different than they were at years beginning.

2008>>>>>2005-07

Still, it has a long way to go before being > the years before those.

[Theo Dious]

You're too easily pleased then dude.

Yeah, this doesn't pay up for Punk's reign, McMahon Death Angle 2, Cena's assed up surprise Rumble win, or the continuing employment of Mark Henry.

[Splaya]

Raw is no different. Cena is still out there burying people.

Who'd have thunk, at least in my eyes, that SD is the #1 promotion, based on depth and quality

[Theo Dious]

I don't even know what they did in the past year that was so bad. It wasn't the best year in wrestling history, but it was a big improvement on the past 4 or 5 years.

Nothing makes up for squatting on the greatest WWE tradition ever IMO (aka the Rumble, and decent buildup thereof)

[Lux]

I will say though, that Hardy standing on that set at the end was a little morbid, what with his house just burned down and all.

It made sense, seeing as it was "Armageddon"

[Theo Dious]

Raw is no different. Cena is still out there burying people.

Who'd have thunk, at least in my eyes, that SD is the #1 promotion, based on depth and quality

This isn't the first time that's been true though.

[thedamndest]

Within the last couple years or so, the booking swerves you're supposed to find awesome you see coming a mile away, and the guys you want to have the belt jerk the curtain.

[Jeritron]

Lets be fair here. Just because some of us think Cena sucks doesn't mean him winning the rumble was shitting on the rumble. In fact, it was far more shocking and fresh (exciting) than previous years where the winner was labeled from a mile away and followed a clear path to the win. At best, it was between two guys (one from each brand).
Even though Cena sucks, at least it was a swerve. Taker winning again would have been pointless.

[El Fangel]

You're too easily pleased then dude.

Scratch that, just noticed Cena won.

And I say this every time a new champ is crowned, but I hope this leads to the retirement of the (non spinning) spinner belt.

Your saying a stoner would get rid of something that trippy?

Yeah, this doesn't pay up for Punk's reign, McMahon Death Angle 2, Cena's assed up surprise Rumble win, or the continuing employment of Mark Henry.

You call yourself a wrestling fan, remembering things that happened more then 6 months ago.

[El Fangel]

Lets be fair here. Just because some of us think Cena sucks doesn't mean him winning the rumble was shitting on the rumble. In fact, it was far more shocking and fresh (exciting) than previous years where the winner was labeled from a mile away and followed a clear path to the win. At best, it was between two guys (one from each brand).
Even though Cena sucks, at least it was a swerve. Taker winning again would have been pointless.

I just hated there was two back to back #30 winners.

[Lux]

McMahon death angle 2 was hilarious espeically after the failed limo one but that was beniot's fault.

[Jeritron]

I may be in the minority, but I thought the limo angle could have been cool. It certainly started off good.

[Lux]

It was gonna go far but sadly had to be cut short.

[Theo Dious]

Lets be fair here. Just because some of us think Cena sucks doesn't mean him winning the rumble was shitting on the rumble. In fact, it was far more shocking and fresh (exciting) than previous years where the winner was labeled from a mile away and followed a clear path to the win. At best, it was between two guys (one from each brand).
Even though Cena sucks, at least it was a swerve. Taker winning again would have been pointless.

Somebody just turning up out of the blue and winning it though, dispassionate of it being Cena, doesn't do it justice for me. There have been a few in recent years that weren't terribly obvious. Taker's definitely wasn't, He Who Must Not Be Named was one of several possibilities but definitely not a foregone conclusion, and Batista wasn't really the only choice that year either. It would have been less obnoxious to me if he had come out in the 10-15 range instead of dead last. When he showed up last his win was a foregone conclusion. Showing up earlier wouldn't have been much less of a giveaway, mind, but it would have helped.

Incidentally, it isnt just Cena's win that constitutes defication here, it's also pissing away the title shot a month later at a lower-tier PPV that was the BIG insult.

[Theo Dious]

Your saying a stoner would get rid of something that trippy?

You're right, they'll probably just put the Hardy Boy symbol in there.

You call yourself a wrestling fan, remembering things that happened more then 6 months ago.

...I'm sorry. :shifty:

[RGWhat316]

Somebody just turning up out of the blue and winning it though, dispassionate of it being Cena, doesn't do it justice for me. There have been a few in recent years that weren't terribly obvious. Taker's definitely wasn't, He Who Must Not Be Named was one of several possibilities but definitely not a foregone conclusion, and Batista wasn't really the only choice that year either. It would have been less obnoxious to me if he had come out in the 10-15 range instead of dead last. When he showed up last his win was a foregone conclusion. Showing up earlier wouldn't have been much less of a giveaway, mind, but it would have helped.

Incidentally, it isnt just Cena's win that constitutes defication here, it's also pissing away the title shot a month later at a lower-tier PPV that was the BIG insult.

Gotta agree with you there, that was crap. Cena showing up out of nowhere to win it, then using his WM title shot at No Way Out??? Even though the triple threat at Mania was good, logically Cena shouldn't have even been in it. He used is shot at NWO and didn't win the title. His own stupidity should have kept him out of the WM title match.

[Lux]

And we see why you are all employed by World Wrestling Entertainment.

[RGWhat316]

Hey man, we all were. And fired 30 seconds later, lol.

[Lux]

With the direction of WWE I'm sure in two years the creative staff will all post on tpww.net :shifty:

[DaVe]

Wow.

I completely forgot the PPV was today... and now I'm pretty angry about it. So I checked the 'highlights' package of the main event on WWE.com and JR's commentary was outstanding.

[Londoner]

I'm glad i stopped watching after the HBK segment.

[Disturbed316]

anyone got a video of the hardy win?

[ClockShot]

I don't know which was worse. Hardy winning, or Orton losing.

Gonna be interesting to see what goes down on RAW tonight.

[Splaya]

I don't know which was worse. Hardy winning, or Orton losing.

Gonna be interesting to see what goes down on RAW tonight.


I get the part about Orton losing...

Not a fan of Hardy?

[RGWhat316]

Yeah I hate that Orton and Jericho both jobbed cleanly.

[RGWhat316]

BTW, has anyone heard from Shadow yet? Is he even alive right now?

[Lux]

Shadow was in Casual early this morning around 2am, he seems to be breathing, I can't tell though.

[ClockShot]

I get the part about Orton losing...

Not a fan of Hardy?

I don't mind Hardy. I just don't get throwing the belt on Edge and having him drop it to Jeff a few weeks after. :?:

[Jeritron]

Probably has to do with HHH. Either they didn't want to job him, HHH didn't want to job (which I actually see as the least likely believe it or not), or they're saving the Hardy over HHH job for a later date i.e Mania. I see the latter as the most likely, but who knows.

[screech]

anyone got a video of the hardy win?

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hA96jM6Hkiw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hA96jM6Hkiw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Destor]

I don't mind Hardy. I just don't get throwing the belt on Edge and having him drop it to Jeff a few weeks after. :?:
It's called a transitional champion.

[Jeritron]

One of my biggest pet peeves of brand extension is when a new champion or big event occurs in the world of Smackdown, and it isn't the lead off of Raw.
I know this is because of the seperate brands, but Raw traditionally captializes off of buzz like this before brand extension and was always great because it adressed the topic while it was hot.
In a better time, todays buzz would be culminated with Jeff Hardy kicking off Raw, and maybe even a big answer to the hotel attack.
Thing would go places while they were still fresh in peoples minds.

Instead, we watch a show by the same promotion that has nothing to do with the PPV's defining moment, and the buzz is lost.
It's practically an afterthought by the time friday rolls around.

[Blue Demon]

Is it just me, or was the crowd dead for that?

[Juan]

Is it just me, or was the crowd dead for that?

It's just you.

[Disturbed316]

:mad: removed :mad: