Michael Cole needs to be fired

[Innovator]

who's with me?

[The Franchise]

me

[The Franchise]

"not this way! not this way!"

[Savio]

He sucks

[Innovator]

Here comes the undefeated Dolph Ziggler!

[Theo Dious]

I don't need him fired, I just want him off TV. Let him go produce something. Quietly.

[Theo Dious]

I want Vince McMahon back as a commentator, god dammit. Nobody could pretend he thought that was a 3-count like Vince. At least he needs to commentate the Rumble.

"There he goes! Shawn Micheals has been elimi-NO! He's still in it!"

[thedamndest]

"ONE! TWO! HE GOT HI-no, I thought for sure he had him there."

[KYR]

How good would it be if we could have Heenan and Monsoon back :'(

[Xero]

Words could not describe, KYR. Words could not describe.

[D Mac]

Replace him with Joey Styles.

[Afterlife]

I see no faults with Mr. Cole. Or, at any rate, no moreso than with King or JR.

[JT]

Replace him with Joey Styles.

Was actually going to say "Find me a man as god as JR and you can fire Michael Cole", but you found someone who at least in between. Joey isn't bad at all, but for some reason he just doesn't fit with the WWE style. Whether he isn't good while being produced or just too set in his ways to change (idk), he just doesn't seem to be what WWE...and therefore we don't get him.

[Sepholio]

Cole is awful. I literally mark out when Lawler corrects him.

That is to say I mark out quite alot.

[Afterlife]

What happens when Lawler fucks up? Do you sit quietly and ignore it?

[Halbowsky]

"WAIT A MINUTE!"

i've been calling for Cole's firing ever since WrestleMania XV when he messed up about Austin winning the title.

And I miss Vince on commentary. "One...two...WE GOT A NEW CHAM...oh no..."
Or what he would say to Lawler after an insult: "How dare you!"

[James Steele]

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[owenbrown]

:lol: :rofl:

[James Steele]

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[Triple Naitch]

Todd Grisham rules. Him and Striker are the future of WWE announcing.

I also marked out on Monday when Melina and Beth were fighting on top of the announce table, then Cole slips out of his chair and uses it as a shield.

[Kane Knight]

What happens when Lawler fucks up? Do you sit quietly and ignore it?

Yes.

[The Franchise]

I hated Joey Styles' commentating, to be honest.

[BigDaddyCool]

lol, the Grish thing is gold.

[RGWhat316]

I don't hate Cole, I just think he doesn't fit in as well on RAW. He was fine on SmackDown and should just return there. Not sure what it is, but he just seems kind of annoying on RAW. And I swear he says the name of the show at least 50 times each broadcast. They should just move JR back to RAW, or even Joey Styles.

[Afterlife]

Yes.

It is pretty convenient, I guess. I know they haven't mentioned on tv that Sim Snuka is Superfly's adopted son, but King saying he can see the resemblence "in the face, but not in the actions" is just retarded. Not being King or JR doesn't make you immune to imperfection.

[Afterlife]

I don't hate Cole, I just think he doesn't fit in as well on RAW. He was fine on SmackDown and should just return there. Not sure what it is, but he just seems kind of annoying on RAW. And I swear he says the name of the show at least 50 times each broadcast. They should just move JR back to RAW, or even Joey Styles.

They will switch back someday. Little doubt should be carried on that.

[XL]

I hate Lawler tbh. It's hypocritical of him to sit there and correct Cole (thus making him look bad) when he's been sat next to JR fucking up for years.

Striker is really impressive - his knowledge of the business is outstanding.

Personally I'd love Heyman back. He some how made JR tolerable.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

It is pretty convenient, I guess. I know they haven't mentioned on tv that Sim Snuka is Superfly's adopted son, but King saying he can see the resemblence "in the face, but not in the actions" is just retarded. Not being King or JR doesn't make you immune to imperfection.

Its pretty obvious why. A group of 2nd generation superstars wouldn't be as cool if it was a group of step children or adopted children. The idea is that they are continuing the greatness of their parents. He was simply covering it and selling the character.

[Juan]

I see no faults with Mr. Cole. Or, at any rate, no moreso than with King or JR.

AL knows wassup.

[Sepholio]

What happens when Lawler fucks up? Do you sit quietly and ignore it?

No, I usually laugh when King does it because he tries to cover it up in hillarious ways most the time. He basically knows when he botched something. Cole on the other hand appears completely oblivious to his mistakes.

I do think Cole is awful, but not bad enough to get rid of him. He just doesnt fit on RAW IMO. He was much better on SD. It is really just a combination of things.

[Savio]

Replace him with Joey Styles.
no heyman

[Afterlife]

Its pretty obvious why. A group of 2nd generation superstars wouldn't be as cool if it was a group of step children or adopted children. The idea is that they are continuing the greatness of their parents. He was simply covering it and selling the character.

Or he was talking out his ass. Or repeating something from his headset spoken by someone talking out his ass.

[Kane Knight]

It is pretty convenient, I guess. I know they haven't mentioned on tv that Sim Snuka is Superfly's adopted son, but King saying he can see the resemblence "in the face, but not in the actions" is just retarded. Not being King or JR doesn't make you immune to imperfection.

Well, you are talking about wrestling fans, here. The flaws of the established are okay because it's traditional. As a whole, the wrestling community will even make up excuses to justify the old over the new.

Plus, it doesn't hurt that King makes the other guys look bad. Gaffs are easier to see when someone's pointing them out, so when JR or King says "you're wrong," It is more visible than the new guy.

I know Cole's not really "new" per se, but there's a problem with announcers just as much as with performers, in that they've generated a tiered system that prevents anyone from really stepping up. I doubt King or Ross want to let anyone get good or become established, because that means their replacement is on the way. As long as they're the de facto best in the business, they have job security. Just like as long as Trips and Taker are the considered the de facto top names, they have a spot. Of course, Trips is bad example, because he can justify himself for other reasons, but....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Michael Cole works really well when he's with a good partner, but when he's with a shitty one, it makes you want to see death to the existence of sound.

When he was with Tazz, JBL and Mick Foley, Cole was more than tolerable. At times he has been the best play-by-play commentator on one of the big shows. Or at least part of the best broadcast team. With Jerry Lawler, though, who is just redundant with his current "I'm as much a face as anyone" character, there's just no dynamic.

I'd actually replace Jerry Lawler before I replaced Michael Cole. Have John Bradshaw Layfield go back to the commentary desk, if you need to. Paul Heyman would probably agree to another paycheck, and even if the WWE didn't like using him in creative, I think they really valued him as an on-screen performer. Tazz could also use another promotion for the years he's put into commentary. He and Cole were great together.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Can I just say: I hope Todd Grisham and Matt Striker get to call the entirety of the Royal Rumble Match. As "2008 Announcers of the Year" I think they earn the right to call a match like that. Those two are going to be great for the WWE one day (hell, they are already), so giving them that sort of exposure would be fantastic.

[AKin3D]

Well, you are talking about wrestling fans, here. The flaws of the established are okay because it's traditional. As a whole, the wrestling community will even make up excuses to justify the old over the new.

Plus, it doesn't hurt that King makes the other guys look bad. Gaffs are easier to see when someone's pointing them out, so when JR or King says "you're wrong," It is more visible than the new guy.

I know Cole's not really "new" per se, but there's a problem with announcers just as much as with performers, in that they've generated a tiered system that prevents anyone from really stepping up. I doubt King or Ross want to let anyone get good or become established, because that means their replacement is on the way. As long as they're the de facto best in the business, they have job security. Just like as long as Trips and Taker are the considered the de facto top names, they have a spot. Of course, Trips is bad example, because he can justify himself for other reasons, but....

Well said KK.

Hell when it comes down to it, there aren't that many people out there who could be good to great annoucers. I mean if by some way Mr. Kennedy ended up behind the desk, I would more than likely work out. A lot of people toss out Josh Mathews as a "hopefully one day" type of guy. Other than those two I can't see anyone else "knowen" filling in the annoucing seat. As for Cole he atless has made that crappy announcing style his knowen for style.

And let's face it, Bradshaw isn't going back unless he has no other choice. As we all knew never say never, but I really do not see Heyman EVER annoucing again. Joey seems happy with the job he has, and also never set well with the WWE fans. Oh and Coach is having a ball on ESPNews.

[Xero]

ROCK BOTTOM! ROCK BOTTOM INTO... INTO THE DOG POOP! THE DOG POOP! THE DOG POOP!

[Kane Knight]

ROCK BOTTOM! ROCK BOTTOM INTO... INTO THE DOG POOP! THE DOG POOP! THE DOG POOP!

TNA's new gimmick match: Six Sides of Doodoo.

[Kane Knight]

I was gonna say Shit, but it's TNA. It's implied.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And I thought my jokes were bad...

[Kane Knight]

And I thought my jokes were bad...

And you were right. :p

[James Steele]

Kane Knight and Noid:

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[Xero]

James Steele:

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[Afterlife]

Steele: That was funny.

Xero: That was...weird.

[Legend Killer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnWKlmZj-vE


Mother fucker won't let me embed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And you were right. :p

Turns out I wasn't as right as I thought.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Steele: That was funny.

Xero: That was...weird.

Without even watching the videos, I can tell that you are right. It's also sad that the guy in Steele's vid is actually more attractive than Kane Knight, because he was probably used for the video because of his inability to stand-out at all.

[Kane Knight]

Turns out I wasn't as right as I thought.

No, you were far more correct than you even knew.

Without even watching the videos, I can tell that you are right. It's also sad that the guy in Steele's vid is actually more attractive than Kane Knight, because he was probably used for the video because of his inability to stand-out at all.

Oh...The irony...

[Mr. Nerfect]

No, you were far more correct than you even knew.

Pfft. Is that what you have lowered yourself to, KK. A variation of "No, you are?"

Oh...The irony...

If we close our eyes really tight, kids, we might be able to see it with our hearts!

[Legend Killer]

Merry-Go, Merry-Go, Merry-Go Round.

LOL

I Like the Penn or Teller too, whichever one they are.

[GD]

His expressions after J.R was drafted to smackdown! were priceless!

[Legend Killer]

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[Legend Killer]

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[Rob]

Michael Cole is doing exactly what Vince McMahon orders him to do. If you think he sucks, blame Vince.

Cole on his own free will announcing is fine.

[GD]

Cole stop posting from Rob's account! :mad: Wait a minute...does this mean the wwe universe is hacking tpww accounts :?:...OMG :eek:!

[Legend Killer]

Cole stop posting from Rob's account! :mad: Wait a minute...does this mean the wwe universe is hacking tpww accounts :?:...OMG :eek:!

That's funny, but that means Michael Cole has more rep than you and I do do put together...:)

[GD]

That is depressing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Michael Cole is doing exactly what Vince McMahon orders him to do. If you think he sucks, blame Vince.

Cole on his own free will announcing is fine.

That is true, to a degree. Some blame needs to be put onto the talent to do their job well, regardless, but commentating is something that has been exposed as having far less freedom than one would think.

See, I'm sure Todd Grisham and Matt Striker get fed lines, and such, as would Tazz, but those three all manage to do so well at what they do. And although Mick Foley could not handle it, he was amazing for the duration he was working SmackDown!.

Michael Cole is obviously going to be handicapped with Vince McMahon in his ear, but other guys have been able to thrive under that pressure. So should he. That being said, I do like Cole, and I wish he would be allowed to portray a smarmy and witty character, like he appears to be able to do in real life. His biased face character gets really annoying.

[BigDaddyCool]

I like Cole, you all can fuck yourselves.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know many people are not a big fan of angles involving announcers and shit like that, but one thing that I think is holding Cole back, is that he has no real relationship with the fans. Hell, the only reason to ignore Jim Ross' slip-ups today is because of what he means to fans. It's not like the guy is still a good commentator.

It's a delicate situation, but if Cole could get chewed out by a heel authority figure on RAW, and then tell them to go screw themselves, he could get the fans on side. I still sort of see the guy in the same sort of pool as generic broadcasting team members, with the only thing setting Cole apart being the length of time Cole has been on one of the big shows.

[James Steele]

Michael Cole has been puked on, raped, wedgied, insulted by fellow announcers about his sexuality, haircut, look, talent, etc.

Michael Cole was doomed ever since WrestleMania XV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Michael Cole needs to Coach it up and fight back. :rant:

[Afterlife]

I totally marked out when he popped Cody in the face.

[AKin3D]

Michael Cole needs to Coach it up and fight back. :rant:

If I'm recalling right. I believe he did and it wasn't received well by the fans and or the wrestlers.

[Afterlife]

If you're going to say something, say it. Don't be uselessly coy.

[KingofOldSchool]

Vintage Michael Cole!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Joey Styles should carry Michael Cole to the World Tag Team Championship.

[Lock Jaw]

I like how Michael Cole always corrects Lawler when Lawler calls Mike Knox "Mike Knox". Its "MONSTROUS Mike Knox".

[Fox]

I heard michael cole can skin a manatee with his bare hands. he's hardcore like that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like how Michael Cole always corrects Lawler when Lawler calls Mike Knox "Mike Knox". Its "MONSTROUS Mike Knox".

You're fucking joking? Does he actually do that? Awesome.

Although this thread is about the sucktitude (or lack thereof) of Michael Cole, I'm going to try and bring a general question into the mix:

With the new WWE Superstars show coming in April being revealed to be something closer to Heat or Velocity than an Afterburn or Confidential type show, who do you think the commentators for it should be?

Now is the time to use Josh Mathews, I think. Just have to think of a partner for him. He works with Dusty Rhodes in FCW, and I have been told they are entertaining, but would that take too much away from Rhodes' duties in FCW? Maybe Joey Styles and Josh Mathews as guys who have done both play-by-play and color forming one two-headed beast of announcing greatness?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

http://i39.tinypic.com/k4fara.jpg

[James Steele]

I am using that next Monday.

[Afterlife]

You're fucking joking? Does he actually do that? Awesome.

Although this thread is about the sucktitude (or lack thereof) of Michael Cole, I'm going to try and bring a general question into the mix:

With the new WWE Superstars show coming in April being revealed to be something closer to Heat or Velocity than an Afterburn or Confidential type show, who do you think the commentators for it should be?

Now is the time to use Josh Mathews, I think. Just have to think of a partner for him. He works with Dusty Rhodes in FCW, and I have been told they are entertaining, but would that take too much away from Rhodes' duties in FCW? Maybe Joey Styles and Josh Mathews as guys who have done both play-by-play and color forming one two-headed beast of announcing greatness?

I was gonna say, Styles and Mathews would be great.

[Legend Killer]

http://i39.tinypic.com/k4fara.jpg

Since when does Michael Cole say FREE?:wtf:

[Lock Jaw]

I wish Michael Cole Bingo was a real game.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was gonna say, Styles and Mathews would be great.

That's probably who I'd go with. :y:

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Since when does Michael Cole say FREE?:wtf:

Do you notice any quote marks around FREE? :wtf:

[BigDaddyCool]

I wish Michael Cole Bingo was a real game.

Us it as a drinking game.

[Xero]

Do you notice any quote marks around FREE? :wtf:

On a JR board that would be "BAHGAWD".

[Haze]

On a JR board that would be "BAHGAWD".

You could fill two or three boards with JR phrases.

[Skippord]

I want to murder him to death everytime I hear the words controlled frenzy

[Mr. Nerfect]

Josh Mathews used to call Paul London & Brian Kendrick's wrestling style "controlled chaos."

[Swiss Ultimate]

DTTS

[Innovator]

Yikes.

[voncouch]

I think Cole gets some of the most unnecessary heat in the company, and I feel like most of it is because he's not JR. When they were first trying to push him down our throats and squeezing JR out, there was a lot of backlash and rightfully so. He wasn't very good and didn't know a lot about the product. But he's been with the company for 16 years now and is the best play-by-play man they have. Most everything that could be considered annoying about him can be credited to having Vince screaming in his ear.

Also, this is still probably one of the funniest things I've seen from the WWE in years:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/wrestling/blog/cole.jpg

And it gave me my favorite wrestling gif of all time:

http://prorasslin.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/michael-cole-twilight-zone.gif

[bigslimjj]

I want to murder him to death everytime I hear the words controlled frenzyVINTAGE SKIPPORD!!!!

[Innovator]

This was before his heel run when he fucked up constantly.

[Savio]

I like how JBL mentions Syracuse during every broadcast now because of Michael Cole. :y:

[Razzamajazz]

"ONE! TWO! HE GOT HI-no, I thought for sure he had him there."
4 1/2 years later and still this

[loopydate]

Todd Grisham rules. Him and Striker are the future of WWE announcing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I miss The Grish. :(