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Old 12-30-2008, 11:34 PM   #1
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I don't need him fired, I just want him off TV. Let him go produce something. Quietly.
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:02 AM   #7
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:17 AM   #11
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I see no faults with Mr. Cole. Or, at any rate, no moreso than with King or JR.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:06 AM   #13
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Replace him with Joey Styles.
Was actually going to say "Find me a man as god as JR and you can fire Michael Cole", but you found someone who at least in between. Joey isn't bad at all, but for some reason he just doesn't fit with the WWE style. Whether he isn't good while being produced or just too set in his ways to change (idk), he just doesn't seem to be what WWE...and therefore we don't get him.
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Old 12-31-2008, 05:00 AM   #14
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Cole is awful. I literally mark out when Lawler corrects him.

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Old 12-31-2008, 06:45 AM   #15
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What happens when Lawler fucks up? Do you sit quietly and ignore it?
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:13 AM   #16
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i've been calling for Cole's firing ever since WrestleMania XV when he messed up about Austin winning the title.

And I miss Vince on commentary. "One...two...WE GOT A NEW CHAM...oh no..."
Or what he would say to Lawler after an insult: "How dare you!"
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Todd Grisham rules. Him and Striker are the future of WWE announcing.

I also marked out on Monday when Melina and Beth were fighting on top of the announce table, then Cole slips out of his chair and uses it as a shield.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:56 AM   #21
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I don't hate Cole, I just think he doesn't fit in as well on RAW. He was fine on SmackDown and should just return there. Not sure what it is, but he just seems kind of annoying on RAW. And I swear he says the name of the show at least 50 times each broadcast. They should just move JR back to RAW, or even Joey Styles.
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Old 01-01-2009, 05:30 AM   #25
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It is pretty convenient, I guess. I know they haven't mentioned on tv that Sim Snuka is Superfly's adopted son, but King saying he can see the resemblence "in the face, but not in the actions" is just retarded. Not being King or JR doesn't make you immune to imperfection.
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I don't hate Cole, I just think he doesn't fit in as well on RAW. He was fine on SmackDown and should just return there. Not sure what it is, but he just seems kind of annoying on RAW. And I swear he says the name of the show at least 50 times each broadcast. They should just move JR back to RAW, or even Joey Styles.
They will switch back someday. Little doubt should be carried on that.
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I hate Lawler tbh. It's hypocritical of him to sit there and correct Cole (thus making him look bad) when he's been sat next to JR fucking up for years.

Striker is really impressive - his knowledge of the business is outstanding.

Personally I'd love Heyman back. He some how made JR tolerable.
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It is pretty convenient, I guess. I know they haven't mentioned on tv that Sim Snuka is Superfly's adopted son, but King saying he can see the resemblence "in the face, but not in the actions" is just retarded. Not being King or JR doesn't make you immune to imperfection.
Its pretty obvious why. A group of 2nd generation superstars wouldn't be as cool if it was a group of step children or adopted children. The idea is that they are continuing the greatness of their parents. He was simply covering it and selling the character.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:00 PM   #29
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Old 01-01-2009, 06:10 PM   #30
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What happens when Lawler fucks up? Do you sit quietly and ignore it?
No, I usually laugh when King does it because he tries to cover it up in hillarious ways most the time. He basically knows when he botched something. Cole on the other hand appears completely oblivious to his mistakes.

I do think Cole is awful, but not bad enough to get rid of him. He just doesnt fit on RAW IMO. He was much better on SD. It is really just a combination of things.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:38 PM   #32
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Its pretty obvious why. A group of 2nd generation superstars wouldn't be as cool if it was a group of step children or adopted children. The idea is that they are continuing the greatness of their parents. He was simply covering it and selling the character.
Or he was talking out his ass. Or repeating something from his headset spoken by someone talking out his ass.
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:20 AM   #33
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It is pretty convenient, I guess. I know they haven't mentioned on tv that Sim Snuka is Superfly's adopted son, but King saying he can see the resemblence "in the face, but not in the actions" is just retarded. Not being King or JR doesn't make you immune to imperfection.
Well, you are talking about wrestling fans, here. The flaws of the established are okay because it's traditional. As a whole, the wrestling community will even make up excuses to justify the old over the new.

Plus, it doesn't hurt that King makes the other guys look bad. Gaffs are easier to see when someone's pointing them out, so when JR or King says "you're wrong," It is more visible than the new guy.

I know Cole's not really "new" per se, but there's a problem with announcers just as much as with performers, in that they've generated a tiered system that prevents anyone from really stepping up. I doubt King or Ross want to let anyone get good or become established, because that means their replacement is on the way. As long as they're the de facto best in the business, they have job security. Just like as long as Trips and Taker are the considered the de facto top names, they have a spot. Of course, Trips is bad example, because he can justify himself for other reasons, but....
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:23 AM   #34
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Michael Cole works really well when he's with a good partner, but when he's with a shitty one, it makes you want to see death to the existence of sound.

When he was with Tazz, JBL and Mick Foley, Cole was more than tolerable. At times he has been the best play-by-play commentator on one of the big shows. Or at least part of the best broadcast team. With Jerry Lawler, though, who is just redundant with his current "I'm as much a face as anyone" character, there's just no dynamic.

I'd actually replace Jerry Lawler before I replaced Michael Cole. Have John Bradshaw Layfield go back to the commentary desk, if you need to. Paul Heyman would probably agree to another paycheck, and even if the WWE didn't like using him in creative, I think they really valued him as an on-screen performer. Tazz could also use another promotion for the years he's put into commentary. He and Cole were great together.
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Can I just say: I hope Todd Grisham and Matt Striker get to call the entirety of the Royal Rumble Match. As "2008 Announcers of the Year" I think they earn the right to call a match like that. Those two are going to be great for the WWE one day (hell, they are already), so giving them that sort of exposure would be fantastic.
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Well, you are talking about wrestling fans, here. The flaws of the established are okay because it's traditional. As a whole, the wrestling community will even make up excuses to justify the old over the new.

Plus, it doesn't hurt that King makes the other guys look bad. Gaffs are easier to see when someone's pointing them out, so when JR or King says "you're wrong," It is more visible than the new guy.

I know Cole's not really "new" per se, but there's a problem with announcers just as much as with performers, in that they've generated a tiered system that prevents anyone from really stepping up. I doubt King or Ross want to let anyone get good or become established, because that means their replacement is on the way. As long as they're the de facto best in the business, they have job security. Just like as long as Trips and Taker are the considered the de facto top names, they have a spot. Of course, Trips is bad example, because he can justify himself for other reasons, but....
Well said KK.

Hell when it comes down to it, there aren't that many people out there who could be good to great annoucers. I mean if by some way Mr. Kennedy ended up behind the desk, I would more than likely work out. A lot of people toss out Josh Mathews as a "hopefully one day" type of guy. Other than those two I can't see anyone else "knowen" filling in the annoucing seat. As for Cole he atless has made that crappy announcing style his knowen for style.

And let's face it, Bradshaw isn't going back unless he has no other choice. As we all knew never say never, but I really do not see Heyman EVER annoucing again. Joey seems happy with the job he has, and also never set well with the WWE fans. Oh and Coach is having a ball on ESPNews.
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:50 AM   #39
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