TPWW Power 25...

[BigDaddyCool]

Would we be interested in such a thing? How would we rank, who would we rank? I figures we would only count TNA and WWE as they are on tv with weekly shows. I would keep track of stats, but I would need to figure out the base line and how to assign points.

I'm thinking Every wrestler starts at 0. I would add or subtract points according to wins or losses and holding a title. Obviously who has the most point would be #1 for the week, then fill out the next 24 spots from there.

I'm thinking WWE and WHC gets +5 point, with a point added every week they hold on to the title.

ECW and TNA Champion gets +4 points, with a point added every week they gold on to the title.

IC, US, X Division, Knockouts, Diva, Womens, and any Tag Champion get +3 points, with a point added every week they remain champion.

Winning a match gets +2 points, losing a match gets -2 points. Being on the winning side of a tag match get +1 (if you didn't score the pin or submission), being on the losing side gets -1 point (if you weren't pinned or submitted).

If the win is against a champion (but non title), it is +2 point for the win and then half the value of the title in question (so +3 points for a non title win against a WWE or WHC, +2 points for ECW or TNA, +1.5 for any other.) The champion would get -2 points for losing.

Winning a title would mean +2 points plus the value of the title from above. The former champion would get -2 points for the loss, and lose the value of the title, but retain the point for length of their title run, but lose a point every week until that reach zero or until they regain another title.

Discuss.

[BigDaddyCool]

Oh, and rankings would be updated every Saturday. At the end of every month, post the entire list.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think that sounds like a pretty solid system if you really wouldn't mind keeping it updated. :y:

[BigDaddyCool]

Should be fairly easy...

[BigDaddyCool]

Should ppv wins count for more?

[Triple Naitch]

Sounds good

[Triple Naitch]

Should ppv wins count for more?

I would say so

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, I would just start out fresh, no trying retroactivily look up past wins, just start with say the January 17 - 23 with every at a base of 0, then add the points, so Cena and Hardy will probably automatically be at the top and then over time people will actaully move around.

[BigDaddyCool]

I think instead of a win on ppv counting towards more, maybe a +1 point for appearing on the ppv.

Now what about the royal rumble? I'm thinking we should figure out points for being in that.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Points for the final four? I say something like 3 or more points for the win.

[BigDaddyCool]

Maybe, but I also think for points for lasting x amount of time, points for eliminating the most other wrestlers as well.

[BigDaddyCool]

Maybe +2 points for lasting the longest, +2 points for eliminating the most number of people. +3 points for winning. +2 for entering at #1 or #2 and making it to the final 2. This only counts for the Royal Rumble.

Also I think winning king of the ring, money in the bank, or king of the mountain, should be a +2 on top of any other points for winnning matches.

[Mercury Bullet]

This sounds incredibly complicated, but a good idea nonetheless. I will gladly sit back and watch.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm think any match that has 3 or more wrestlers but only one pin fall should work with the winner get +2 for the win, the person getting pinned (or submitted) get -2 points for the loss, and anyone else in the match gets -1 just like a tag match.

In a match with 3 or more wrestlers with elemitnation style rules, +2 for every elemination a wrestler gets, -2 points for being eleminated. I.E. in a 3 way dance with say Orton, JBL and Jericho. Lets say Orton pins JBL, then Jericho pins Orton. JBL would get -2 points for being eleminated. Orton would get +2 for eleminating JLB but -2 point for getting eleminated for a net total of 0 points, and Jericho gets +2 points for elemanting Orton. Now if Jericho eliminated both, he would get +4 point, while they both get -2 points.

[BigDaddyCool]

This sounds incredibly complicated, but a good idea nonetheless. I will gladly sit back and watch.

Not if I get a spread sheet going.

[Anybody Thrilla]

You're the accountant, figure it out.

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm just trying to discuss the rules and see how everyone feels about it. I would like to see the system in action, then maybe tweat the points.

[Mercury Bullet]

Not if I get a spread sheet going.

:y:

[Dorkchop]

I don't know if adding more points to a match is a great idea, unless it's a battle royal or Rumble. It might give people like Cena and HHH an unfair advantage. I don't know.

I'd suggest you just make your own personal 25, but you'd always have Nash at number one and somehow list Bret Hart at 5000.

[BigDaddyCool]

Bret Hart isn't wrestling so he wouldn't even be on the list.

[Ruien]

I don't know if adding more points to a match is a great idea, unless it's a battle royal or Rumble. It might give people like Cena and HHH an unfair advantage. I don't know.

I'd suggest you just make your own personal 25, but you'd always have Nash at number one and somehow list Bret Hart at 5000.


How is it unfair if they win? I do not believe you are comprehending the idea here.

[BigDaddyCool]

I don't know if adding more points to a match is a great idea, unless it's a battle royal or Rumble. It might give people like Cena and HHH an unfair advantage. I don't know.

I'd suggest you just make your own personal 25, but you'd always have Nash at number one and somehow list Bret Hart at 5000.

Actaully right now, Cena should be winning if we are tracking tv/ppv wins as current champion.

[Dorkchop]

At first I was still thinking more like WWE's stupid power 25 for some reason. I guess it makes sense though. but guys like Cena and HHH (mainly HHH I think) get so many handicapped matches regularly that even if they lost a lot of matches they could still number 1 or two for a while. But then again, guys like Miz and Morrison wrestle or at least appear almost on every show so they could get some high rankings.

It'll be a little tricky to figure out how to really score everything considering this is a fake sport.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yeah, I have a feeling Miz and Morrison who seemingly show up 3 times a week, and get wins, plus have tag team titles (which allows them the build up points as well) are going to shoot to the top.

Also, this kind of system would have put Londrick at the top because WWE simply forgot they were champions and they last a year.

[Afterlife]

The thread title implies a ranking of TPWW posters. I was disappointed.

[BigDaddyCool]

We have rankings, BDC is #1, the rest of you suck.

[BigDaddyCool]

I got the basic spread sheet set up, but does any know a good place to find the result for a show with a million pop ups? WWE.com does say who wins pinned who in a tag match.

[Volchok]

onlineworldofwrestling.com should have what you're looking for with results and all.

[BigDaddyCool]

Ok...I think I might get it going starting with the royal rumble.

[BigDaddyCool]

I watched the rumble, and I only counted who was in the matches, not who was ring side (i.e. HBK gets no points). Also by my count HHH and Bigshow both eliminated 6 people in the Rumble (tiying for the most eleminations), and I believe HHH ended up lasting longer than Rey Mysterio. So HHH will get bonus points for both most and longest, Bigshow will also get bonus points for most, I may split the bonus +2 between Show and HHH. Orton gets +3 for winning the rumble.

Any problems with that?

[Volare]

You wanna count house shows or just TV/PPV?

[BigDaddyCool]

Just tv or ppv, house shows will only count on title changes that WWE reconizes.

[Volare]

Ah ok, so no "There was a title change...wait rematch at the end of the night thing where it changes back" storyline right?

[BigDaddyCool]

Ah ok, so no "There was a title change...wait rematch at the end of the night thing where it changes back" storyline right?

House shows don't count unless WWE says so.

[Volare]

All is good with me then. Go for it.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, sence Beth and Jeff lost their titles and I'm starting everyone at 0, they get no points for holding their titles for this week, cause I'm to lazy to go back and figure up points. So it is going to a little off until this really start rolling.

[Volare]

1 week don't mean crap and you know that man!

[BigDaddyCool]

It is going to be tallied weekly, therefore one week (specially the rumble week) does mean crap.

[Volare]

True, the only thing I meant by that is WWE is known for "lets do this storyline that will last 2 months and next week it isn't even close to happening.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yeah, this is a kayfabe rating, because TPWW has enough smark ratings. Plus I think it would be fun trying to track TNA and WWE as real sports.

[Tornado]

Sounds like a great idea, how about varying the amount of points for a PPV match based on how far up the card said match is?

[BigDaddyCool]

No.

[Heyman]

Heyman's top 10 rankings: (All shows combined...taking injured wrestlers into account)

1) John Cena
1a) Triple H
3) Randy Orton (soon to be '1b')
3a) Undertaker
3b) Shawn Michaels
6) Dave Batista
7) Edge
8) Big Show
9) Chris Jericho
10) John Bradshaw Layfield

Honorable mention: Kane

I believe these rankings are an accurate reflection based on a combination of...

-Backstage power
-Company status
-Overall 'overness' over a lengthy period of time
-Overall legacy within the company.

[BigDaddyCool]

Shouldn't Cena be 1a and HHH be 1b? Also, that would mean orton would be 3a, Taker 3b, and HBK 3c?

[Heyman]

Shouldn't Cena be 1a and HHH be 1b? Also, that would mean orton would be 3a, Taker 3b, and HBK 3c?

Yes and no.

I see what you mean but usually, a '1A' is denoted towards someone that is co#1. There is always a '1' and '1A' (followed by 1B, 1C, etc.).

[BigDaddyCool]

Anyhow, I was hoping for more help on the rating system I purposed.

[BigDaddyCool]

TPWW now has decent results for WWE, I've been trying to get this done, but I've been sick for 3 days.

[Volare]

Dude, sorry to hear about that....DAMMIT DON'T TAP TO THE SICKNESS!

[BigDaddyCool]

Well, I'm going to work on it, and once i can get it rolling, it should be fairly easy.

[Volare]

As long as it isn't the Cena sickness...you shouldn't have to job.