View Full Version : Is he worth keeping around? (Paul Birchill)
Rollermacka
01-27-2009, 03:43 PM
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So Big Lance got a mixed reaction from the last one but what do you guys think about Paul Burchill? I do miss both there gimmicks in that vid, when Paul thought he was a pirate and Mr. Kennedy use to pop out at random times back stage and scream his name. I like Paul Burchill as far as his wrestling style goes. Kinda reminds me of that old school Vaderish rough neck hit you with my fists, knees, head, boots, or anything else I can style. They dropped the inscest inuendos and they might make a feud with DJ Gabriel which could help put him on a non jobber path. I would say maybe call up Drew McIntyre and/or his tag team partner (another kinda big brittish rough neck style wrestler) let them all align with Reagal and see if another blue bloods stable could get going. I would say yea, he's worth keeping around.
thedamndest
01-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Send him to ECW. I don't even know what brand he's on right now.
Hanso Amore
01-27-2009, 03:44 PM
NO
They have rehashed the Blue Blood English group way too many fucking times in the last few years.
Jeritron
01-27-2009, 03:44 PM
He is on ECW. I say no, and Noid's heart breaks.
Hanso Amore
01-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Send him to ECW. I don't even know what brand he's on right now.
ECW
thedamndest
01-27-2009, 03:45 PM
If he's already on ECW and he isn't champion by now he needs to go.
Hanso Amore
01-27-2009, 03:54 PM
HE needs to take his busted ass, 1 Attire having sister with him.
Altough she is the only chick in ECW me thinks.
Hanso Amore
01-27-2009, 03:54 PM
There are not enough non-blonde white chicks too.
Jeritron
01-27-2009, 03:58 PM
If he can't cut it on ECW, he needs to get the fuck out. Sorry.
BigDaddyCool
01-27-2009, 04:00 PM
Well, no they don't need him other than to fill out the roster.
Jeritron
01-27-2009, 04:03 PM
They need him to be thrown on his ass for pre-ppv battle royales
Yeah, I'd like to see him stick around. He's been given (very small) chances and not really done anything with them. I think he showed he has a bit of charisma with his pirate schtick, he looks good, the one glove 'Ripper' thing is pretty cool but they should use the half mask gimmick from OVW too. I mean, he's a 6'4/6'5, 250lb man that can do a standing shooting star press, corkscrews etc but I'm guessing he isn't allowed to use this stuff. Seeing somebody his size doing stuff like that could help get him over a lot but that's gonna happen with Vince. I think he may be one of WWE's future endeavour guys that would actually be better off getting picked up by TNA after 90 days
Kane Knight
01-27-2009, 05:33 PM
The worth of keeping someone around is really kind of a two-pronged issue. On the one hand, Burchill's pretty damn good. He's charismatic, he's entertaining, and he's good in the ring. On that front, yes.
On the other hand, there's little point in keeping around anyone they're not really going to use. I haven't seen him recently, but if he's being used like he's been used in the past, he might as well be replaced by any generic nobody who they can scrounge up. On that front, it's more a question of "what's the point?"
On the one hand, if he's kept aound long enough, he might end up getting somewhere out of sheer longevity. On the other, he could remain nobody and retire broken. Somewhere in between, he could be a Val Venis, who spends years as a well-liked performer with no serious chance of upward mobility--And that's fine, too.
I think the only value he has to WWE is keeping him from the opposition. Unless, of course, things have changed radically recently.
St. Jimmy
01-27-2009, 06:38 PM
No.
FourFifty
01-27-2009, 06:48 PM
I've always liked the guy. He's a great talent who isn't being used like he should.
Lock Jaw
01-27-2009, 06:54 PM
No.
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Chavo Classic
01-27-2009, 07:46 PM
I was ready to launch into rant over why Burchill should be kept on until KK mentioned this
....he could be a Val Venis, who spends years as a well-liked performer with no serious chance of upward mobility.
Which is a dam shame, as both Burchill and Venis are fine performers with plenty of character. If the WWE can't find something for a guy as big as Burchill with the arsenal of moves that he has and the personality to actually get a Pirates of the Caribbean rip-off character over, then they probably don't deserve him.
Let him go to TNA, and resurrect his career. Matt Morgan always needs opponents/tag partners.
No.
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Anybody Thrilla
01-27-2009, 08:25 PM
I've enjoyed his matches with DJ Gabriel. Let's see how that goes first.
Jeritron
01-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Fire this guy and close this thread
I like Burchill. However, WWE has given me very little reason to do so.
They could make him a legitimate threat/force to be reckoned with on ECW. He could mix it up pretty well with a guy like Bourne. How they can't use a guy that has charisma, technical ability and build as well as the aerial moves is beyond me. Seems he's destined to be the new Charlie Haas - a decent talent that "the writers don't have anything for".
I'd keep him around, but they have to do something with him.
Anybody Thrilla
01-27-2009, 08:36 PM
Even if they DON'T use Burchill for anything amazing, I'd rather have someone like him around as a jobber than someone like Gene Snitsky, ya know?
Even if they DON'T use Burchill for anything amazing, I'd rather have someone like him around as a jobber than someone like Gene Snitsky, ya know?
Word :y:
Jeritron
01-27-2009, 08:41 PM
It's really a comprimise. Do I wish they get rid of Burchill so I don't have to hear about him winning the title in Noid posts? Or do I hope he stays so that I don't have to hear about some new jobber crush winning the royal rumble and unifying the titles at wrestlemania?
It's a catch22
Jeritron
01-27-2009, 08:41 PM
sorry noid
Nark Order
01-27-2009, 09:19 PM
*patiently awaiting Noid's assgasm*
*patiently awaiting Noid's assgasm*
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thedamndest
01-27-2009, 09:29 PM
Paul Burchill is on the Million and Two Years Plan.
Xerzes
01-28-2009, 03:23 AM
Keep and push, damnit.
Afterlife
01-28-2009, 05:20 AM
Keep and push, damnit.
And then some. How about utilizing the real talent, instead of constantly firing it to hire rookies?
Disturbed316
01-28-2009, 05:48 AM
ROFL We need a pirate in this business
Krimzon7
01-28-2009, 08:54 AM
Burchil could stay, would rather see him drop that bitch katie Lea. He should be mixing it up with Benjamin, and the US title scene, or Punk and the IC title scene. He could be a worthy mid card talent. Too bad that the Ripper sounds too much like the Crippler God Dammit!
Afterlife
01-28-2009, 09:31 AM
But I don't think they've called him "The Ripper" on tv, anyway. And if they have, it was brief and I missed it. And regardless, if that's why they're treating him so poorly, change his nickname -- like they've changed everything else that made him interesting.
BigDaddyCool
01-28-2009, 09:36 AM
They called him the Ripper last night on ECW, and I recall JR call him Ripper when they were both on Raw.
Afterlife
01-28-2009, 11:07 AM
Didn't watch last night; I was uptown, getting a handjob.
BigDaddyCool
01-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Well I've heard him being called ripper before, but the problem is he is not featured very often. They talk him up saying he is tough, and a bad ass, but it is hard to believe when he is always losing.
Afterlife
01-28-2009, 11:19 AM
That's very tru. That's why I'm saying they should treat him better. He could add leaps and bounds to whatever show he's on at the given time.
Anybody Thrilla
01-28-2009, 11:39 AM
The Ripper is a fine nickname. That's the least of his problems right now.
Mr. Nerfect
01-28-2009, 12:23 PM
I like Paul Burchill. Maybe I am naive, but I think the WWE are grooming him. Not for anything *too* big, but they did nothing with him for ages, started releasing guys, and then let him make the cuts and give him another shot on ECW.
The stupid characters the WWE have had him play have been interesting, been somewhat over, and allowed him to work on his personality - something a lot of people would be afraid would hold him back in the WWE. He's not a genius on the mic, or anything, but he's done fairly well for himself, and only gotten better.
He's fixing up his look (the smaller trunks make him look much bigger, which makes him look more threatening, and makes his agility all the more impressive), and he wasn't squashed by The Boogeyman, which is something that Booker T cannot exactly claim.
Plus, Katie Lea is fucking gorgeous. If Burchill means Katie, then I am all for keeping him around.
Mr. Nerfect
01-28-2009, 12:24 PM
If Paul Burchill claims to be related to Jack the Ripper, in the same way that he claimed to be related to Blackbeard, I will be happy.
Nark Order
01-28-2009, 12:25 PM
I think they are grooming him to job another couple hundred times and then wish him well in his future endeavors, Noid. And Yes, you are naive.
BigDaddyCool
01-28-2009, 12:25 PM
Grooming him? Grooming him for what? He has been on WWE tv for going on 4 years and they haven't done shit with him. You aren't naive, you are retarded.
Anybody Thrilla
01-28-2009, 12:33 PM
I thought it was funny that they mentioned that he had been with the company for like four years on ECW last night.
Anybody Thrilla
01-28-2009, 12:34 PM
Paul Birchill is something along the lines of a modern day "Iron" Mike Sharpe. More talented, but just as relevant.
BigDaddyCool
01-28-2009, 12:34 PM
Yeah, he has all the tools to work a match, he just don't know how to connect with a crowd in any meaningful way.
Kane Knight
01-28-2009, 01:14 PM
I disagree that he doesn't know how to connect to a crowd. He seems to do quite well for himself there. Doesn't mean he's going places, or being groomed, but I think he's got some of this down anyway.
Mr. Nerfect
01-28-2009, 01:20 PM
Grooming him? Grooming him for what? He has been on WWE tv for going on 4 years and they haven't done shit with him. You aren't naive, you are retarded.
They keep giving him shit to do that challenges him. They keep giving him the microphone when he is not a natural speaker. They keep giving him a stupid character to play when acting is probably not his strong suit. Just look how much Burchill has actually improved as an all-round performer since coming to the WWE.
Mr. Nerfect
01-28-2009, 01:21 PM
I disagree that he doesn't know how to connect to a crowd. He seems to do quite well for himself there. Doesn't mean he's going places, or being groomed, but I think he's got some of this down anyway.
You're right, but that won't stop people from assuming that he mustn't be over because he's not a high profile act within the company.
Similar people probably thought that Scotty 2 Hotty and Eugene weren't over, either.
Kane Knight
01-28-2009, 01:22 PM
That doesn't sound so much like "grooming" as it does the general WWE mill.
Mr. Nerfect
01-28-2009, 01:28 PM
That doesn't sound so much like "grooming" as it does the general WWE mill.
Really? I mean, who else is in that sort of situation? If a guy can't talk, often the WWE will just stop them cutting promos, or give them a manager. Shelton Benjamin is one guy I would call being groomed for "big things." He's getting tons of promo/video segment time in which he can practice talking. He's also getting to stretch himself in the ring.
Someone like Charlie Haas, until he disappeared, has been playing up on a personality a lot of people didn't think he had. Besides that, I am hard-pressed to think of anybody.
My point was that the WWE are obviously interested enough in Burchill that they are giving him time to talk, learn and grow as an overall performer. Maybe it's just more obvious with him than others. I'm not going to be surprised if Burchill gets another push one day. That is all.
BigDaddyCool
01-28-2009, 01:51 PM
Yeah, they are so interested they put him on ECW and started jobbing him out there. I mean seriously, when was that last time he won a meaningful match?
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