*Official Wrestlemania 25 Discussion* + Match of the Night

[CSL]

Another top notch VP, the Vince point co-inciding with the start of Trips' music was great

[St. Jimmy]

THIS IS WHAT A FUCKING MAIN EVENT LOOKS LIKE FOLKS.

[Londoner]

HHH isn't winning tonight

[St. Jimmy]

Shane O Mac looks fuckin' slick.

[Stealth-Icon]

I doubt it, it doesn't seem like they'd just have them married again to turn her on him.

Very possible. I just think that something will happen. I don't see this being a "non run in" match.

[Mooияakeя™]

Fuck up on entrance.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Lillian stfu so I can hear voices god damn it.

[Londoner]

ortons theme started quick ffs

[SammyG]

Shit, they met before. TUURNNN.

[thedamndest]

A McMahon turn at this point would be something Russo would have done. "You punted me, so I think I'll be your buddy."

[Mooияakeя™]

Sometimes I wonder if they gonna be building a stable here. dunno who, but someone. Even Trips and Orton some weird way.

[St. Jimmy]

Orton needs some sick pyro.

[CSL]

Lilian Garcia announcing the Mania main event makes me sad

Would it have killed them to have Fink do it?

[Theo Dious]

Awesome entrance by Orton.

[Mooияakeя™]

Odds on first to blade?

[St. Jimmy]

this entrance is so creepy. i love it.

[Theo Dious]

Also, ref bumps all around.

[CSL]

King has a man crush

[Mooияakeя™]

LOVE THE TRON!!!

The white lights flashing on the guitar "DUUUURNNNNNN" FLASHHHHHHHHHH wooooooooooo

[Londoner]

THEY TALK TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Theo Dious]

A McMahon turn at this point would be something Russo would have done. "You punted me, so I think I'll be your buddy."

They could do Shane in a "we were faking" kind of way.

[St. Jimmy]

THEN WHY IS THEIR COAT OF ARMS A SHITTY SPINNY BELT?!

[Stealth-Icon]

Odds on first to blade?

Orton. 7 minute mark of the match

[Loose Cannon]

Let's Go Orton

[St. Jimmy]

They could do Shane in a "we were faking" kind of way.

That's why the Steph turn makes the most sense. No kick to the head, just an RKO and a DDT (and a kiss).

[Theo Dious]

I don't see this not being the night when the full Kliq blessing is bestowed on Orton.

[St. Jimmy]

ARE YOU READY?!

[Mooияakeя™]

The beauty of PPV's. No talking for 10 mins before opponent comes!!

[St. Jimmy]

ITS TIME
TIME TO PLAY THE GAME
HAHAHAHA!

[Theo Dious]

OOOOH Hammer.

[St. Jimmy]

I have goosebumps.

[Londoner]

WEIRD ASS ENTRANCE HHH

[Droford]

lol..what?

[Mooияakeя™]

Orton's Law is in effect y'all

[St. Jimmy]

that was cool!

[Theo Dious]

THAT WAS AWESOME.

[Stealth-Icon]

I think that the wrestlers are getting winded on how long that entrance aisle is to the ring.

[Droford]

I guess when you hear the mirror shatter is different from glass..

[St. Jimmy]

This crowd does suck dick though. Most lackluster crowd for a Mania I have ever heard.

[Theo Dious]

This is not the same Randy Orton we saw five years ago.

[Juan]

Randy wins, Cena gets drafted to Smackdown

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Let's go OrTON

Trips entrance was hot though.

[Innovator]

CMON ORTON

NO ORTOND

[Stealth-Icon]

did she say "San Louis Missouri?

[Theo Dious]

Damn, they only half half a damn hour for this.

[SammyG]

here we go

[Londoner]

So if HHH gets DQ'd or counted he loses the title?

[Londoner]

I think thats what king said anyway

[HeartBreakMan2k]

RKO!

[Theo Dious]

Have you not been paying attention?

[Droford]

rko already?

[Pegasus Crawford]

Wow. RKO out of nowhere

[Theo Dious]

WOAH!

[St. Jimmy]

HOLY FUCK RKO

[HeartBreakMan2k]

So if HHH gets DQ'd or counted he loses the title?

Yeah, stimp added by Vickie.

[Theo Dious]

JESUS CHRIST!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Pedigree!?!

[SammyG]

RKO thirty seconds into the match basically.

[Droford]

Pedigree too? what the hell?

[Londoner]

HHH up already...

[UmbrellaCorporation]

lol @ the ref talking to Trips like a 5 year old

[St. Jimmy]

WHAT!

[Pegasus Crawford]

Rather early finishers by both guys.

[thedamndest]

lol pedigree out of nothing.

[St. Jimmy]

wow. this is gonna be fucking amazing.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'm trying to figure if that actually is going to hurt the flow and finish of the match...

[jaycool2k]

whoop....a backwards match....

[SammyG]

wtf pedigree

[Londoner]

Yeah, stimp added by Vickie.

must've missed that

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Very cool start though.

[thedamndest]

Unnecessary big match finishers.

[Theo Dious]

Is somebody speaking Spanish?!

[Pegasus Crawford]

And the Spanish announce table is still intact!

[CSL]

Steve Armstrong is in the main event of WrestleMania

Wonder how Road Dogg feels about that

[Stealth-Icon]

Hey, was HHH doing his Hogan pump up impersonation?

[Theo Dious]

Unnecessary big match finishers.

I can see that with something built up as intense as this has been they needed something to drop the pace.

[Blue Demon]

is there a stream again...I had to leave for a while and non are working :-\

[Not Booked]

Damn, they only half half a damn hour for this.

30mins = clean finish?

[Droford]

lol @ "WAIT!"

[SammyG]

wooo water

[Not Booked]

is there a stream again...I had to leave for a while and non are working :-\

http://www.justin.tv/xev0xkill2

[Blue Demon]

http://www.justin.tv/xev0xkill2

:y:

[Theo Dious]

30mins = clean finish?

I seem to remember HHH/Batista being fairly short... also fairly boring...

[CSL]

This is just gonna build and build, should be good stuff

[Stealth-Icon]

uh oh....last time someone reposted the stream it died. I hope not again.

[Theo Dious]

Wouldnt you think Orton would just have Legacy come out and start stomping the hell out of him so HHH gets DQed?

[Droford]

does Ortons busted lip count as blade job?

[Theo Dious]

uh oh....last time someone reposted the stream it dyed. I hope not again.

SILENCE!!!


...and learn to spell.

[thedamndest]

I can see that with something built up as intense as this has been they needed something to drop the pace.

But why drop the pace when everyone has been salivating for them to tear each others' faces off as soon as the bell rings?

[Droford]

Wouldnt you think Orton would just have Legacy come out and start stomping the hell out of him so HHH gets DQed?

Shane or Steph, only to have them turn on HHH and side with Orton after.

[LuigiD]

Besides for the HBK/Taker match and a few highlights from the other matches..does anyone feel like this is probably one of the worst Wrestlemania's?

[Theo Dious]

But why drop the pace when everyone has been salivating for them to tear each others' faces off as soon as the bell rings?

They can't work that hard for a whole match!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Smart for them to slow build this. Very smart.

[Theo Dious]

Besides for the HBK/Taker match and a few highlights from the other matches..does anyone feel like this is probably one of the worst Wrestlemania's?

Good Lord no.

[CSL]

But why drop the pace when everyone has been salivating for them to tear each others' faces off as soon as the bell rings?

They can't exactly tear each others faces off for 30 minutes though

[Londoner]

really hate how cole always goes 'oooh' after everymove

[HeartBreakMan2k]

They can't work that hard for a whole match!

Because I honestly don't think they can work a pace that overshadows what Shawn and Taker did, plus the crowd is hot off of Austin. So you have to drop them down to build them up.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Besides for the HBK/Taker match and a few highlights from the other matches..does anyone feel like this is probably one of the worst Wrestlemania's?

Absolutely not.

[mike adamle]

boring main event

[Droford]

Besides for the HBK/Taker match and a few highlights from the other matches..does anyone feel like this is probably one of the worst Wrestlemania's?

IVe enjoyed everything but the Divas and the IC title match which was too short to even bother worrying about, and the Kid Rock crap. But for the most part its been a solid show I think.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

really hate how cole always goes 'oooh' after everymove

Agreed.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Wouldnt you think Orton would just have Legacy come out and start stomping the hell out of him so HHH gets DQed?

See I thought of this, but at the same time - I really think with all the build up they've done to make Orton, after Trips has gotten the better of Legacy so much, RKO has to go over relatively clean.

[mike adamle]

yeah, i agree with whoever said this was a bad mania, the mitb wasn't too bad, hardys were a major let down, not having the tag match was a let down, and so far this main event is a let down

[KaliKot]

yawn

we want Christian!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

They can't exactly tear each others faces off for 30 minutes though

:y:

[CSL]

boring main event

Yeah. I mean, how dare they build it up and try and tell a story in the main event of the biggest show of the year

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That variation of the snake eyes was sick.

[thedamndest]

They can't exactly tear each others faces off for 30 minutes though

Right, but at least get some good heavy brawling in for five minutes and then hit the finisher spot and slow it down.

[KaliKot]

Prove it. Drop trou.

yeah, i agree with whoever said this was a bad mania, the mitb wasn't too bad, hardys were a major let down, not having the tag match was a let down, and so far this main event is a let down

Hardys was pretty good, could have been better though

[Innovator]

Good ol spinebuster

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I do agree that I wish we saw Colon/Miz-Morrison. Although I'm sure we've seen that match quite a few times already. Plus I woulda been pissed to actually watch The In Crowd lose.

[Johnny Vegas]

This match started just like the UT/HBK match...slowly going at first but will pick up later

[Londoner]

decent match so far

[SammyG]

this is kinda lame.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Hardys was pretty good, could have been better though

Hardys were good, they just don't seem to have the chemistry against each other to build an epic one on one.

Awesome dropkick by Orton btw.

Anyway, it's very odd that Matt and Jeff can't compete with each other very well considering how well they play off one another in tag team scenarios.

[Pegasus Crawford]

Wow. 15 minutes left in the program.

[CSL]

That dropkick spot was perfect

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Good ol spinebuster

Still not as good as Double A's.

Also lmao off at Orton trying to tug his leg free with his hands when Trips grabbed it.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Orton has some of the best facial reactions in the business by the way.

[Theo Dious]

Cant believe there hasnt been a ref bump yet.

[Pegasus Crawford]

Here comes the announcer table spot

[Londoner]

bye bye spanish table?

[Nervous Ferret]

Someone give me the results thus far PLZ ? :(

[Droford]

HHH cant hit Orton with a monitor but he can pedigree him through a table?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

The Spanish announce table is still in tact!

[Londoner]

not quite

[Theo Dious]

How is a Pedigree through an announce table not a DQ? I know it never is usually, but seriously here.

[Stealth-Icon]

It didn't break....ouch

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Orton's sitting there thinking "fuck, we were supposed to break this thing"


RKO DDT ON THE CONCRETE!!!

[Innovator]

SICK DDT

[CSL]

Right, but at least get some good heavy brawling in for five minutes and then hit the finisher spot and slow it down.

You have a point, going for a Bret/Austin/WM 13 would have been better

And sucks for Trips that that table didn't break

[HeartBreakMan2k]

*marks out*

[Theo Dious]

DAMN!

[Not Booked]

Besides for the HBK/Taker match and a few highlights from the other matches..does anyone feel like this is probably one of the worst Wrestlemania's?

MITB was good minus the rushed ending with the forced punk win. Taker/HBK exceeded expectations. Austin had a great send-off. The rest was throw-away.

Imo No Way Out was a far far better PPV with great finishes all round.

[St. Jimmy]

sick ddt

[CSL]

Fucking love that DDT

It's almost not possible for it to not look devastating

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That was 10, bullshit. Randy was robbed.

[Theo Dious]

One thing tonight has taught me is that I still have the capacity to turn into a drooling mark if the match is good enough.

[KaliKot]

HEY THAT WAS CLEARLY A COUNTOUT

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Taker timed his roll in much better, and i think he was half concussed.

[Theo Dious]

That was 10, bullshit. Randy was robbed.

IT'S WRESTLEMANIA 3 ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

[thedamndest]

They should have talked to Taker and HBK and asked if they also had a count out spot.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

One thing tonight has taught me is that I still have the capacity to turn into a drooling mark if the match is good enough.

Definitely

[Pegasus Crawford]

Obligatory ref bump

[Londoner]

One thing tonight has taught me is that I still have the capacity to turn into a drooling mark if the match is good enough.

same ere

fuck this'move with the times'bullshit

[Theo Dious]

There it is.

[Droford]

theres ya ref bumpage

[HeartBreakMan2k]

RING THE DAMN BELL! TRIPLE H ASSAULTED THE REF! RING THE DAMN BELL!!!!

[KaliKot]

REEEEF BUMMMMMP!!!

[thedamndest]

They should have talked to Taker and HBK and asked if they also had a ref bump.

[Not Booked]

Is it just me, or is HHH not nearly as over as Vince and Steph seem to think he is?

[Stealth-Icon]

theres the ref bump

[HeartBreakMan2k]

o noes... I think Orton is gonna lose now.. :(

[Theo Dious]

Here comes a McMahon.

[Theo Dious]

WOW

[KaliKot]

And it was clear from the beginning that that ref wouldnt last when he was talking to HHH like a pussy

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Trips blew out his quad again?

[Theo Dious]

Or Legacy, or someone.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Or not, also Hunters punt is not nearly as cool looking as Randy's.

[SammyG]

epic punt

[CSL]

Trips punt, awesome

[Londoner]

shut the fuck up JR

[Droford]

I thought someone was coming for a second there..

[BobBitchen]

What happened to the Bella on a pole lumber jack match for the tag team titles?

[Theo Dious]

"Wherewithitall?" FUCKING RETARD

[KYR]

Someone give me the results thus far PLZ ? :(

Carlito & Colon def Miz & Morrison
"Santina" Marella won the Diva Battle Royal
Rey Mysterio def JBL
U'Taker def HBK
Matt def Jeff
Jericho def Legends
CM Punk won MITB
Cena def Edge & Big Show

[HeartBreakMan2k]

THERE ARMSTRONG CURSE LIVES! Scott hurt his arm without even wrestling!

[Pegasus Crawford]

And it's over

[KaliKot]

WTF that was just FLAT

[Londoner]

meh

[Droford]

Wow, now that was..LAME

[Theo Dious]

...wait... that... was... wrong.

[Innovator]

Wow. He got Ortond.

[Stealth-Icon]

The game wins

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Weak finish....

[Theo Dious]

...way to piss all over 3 months of solid buildup.

[IC Champion]

That was one of the worst Mania main events I've ever seen.

[Johnny Vegas]

Yea...i tried to stay positive in the thread...that was 3* at best...

[CSL]

I almost thought there was gonna be a DQ there

Anti-climatic or what though

[HeartBreakMan2k]

New Wrestlemania rule. No one is to ever follow HBM ever again.

[Theo Dious]

I mean, K4L and all... but still... there could have been a far better ending for that.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

UUmm, what?

Punk... please?

[KaliKot]

BULLLL SHITTT

[Theo Dious]

New Wrestlemania rule. No one is to ever follow HBM ever again.

Seconded.

[thedamndest]

Cena is on Raw and has now evened out the championship situation. HHH wins.

[IC Champion]

...way to piss all over 3 months of solid buildup.

LOL

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Guess ya gotta "send 'em home happy"...

[Londoner]

weakest WM ever despite the hbk/taker match/hardys

[St. Jimmy]

Uh... okay...

[SammyG]

That coulda been way better. Good, but coulda been better.

[Stealth-Icon]

I am very shocked that we didn't see anyone come in on that match

[St. Jimmy]

HEY GUYS LOOK, EVERY FACE BUT JERICHO WON!

[Not Booked]

ok, fun game.

can anybody remember a less over and more flat Wrestlemania ending, EVER?

[St. Jimmy]

WeakSauce.

[Johnny Vegas]

What is the name of this song playing?

[BobBitchen]

How did I miss the Bella on a pole match. Was it not shown? I watched all 4.5 hours of this.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

That was the most anti-climatic ending of a ppv ever.

[thedamndest]

I called it as soon as Cena won. I am not to be doubted about WWE booking again.

[abec]

What happened to money in the bank and the tag title unification?

wtf son of a bitch i missed them

[Ruien]

HEY GUYS LOOK, EVERY FACE BUT JERICHO WON!

Santino won.

[Stealth-Icon]

What is the name of this song playing?

Shoot to Thrill......ACDC

[BobBitchen]

What is the name of this song playing?

Shoot to thrill
AC/DC

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Gay ending. But overall a solid show.</font>

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I mean, I wanted Randy to win and all. And as said, KFL but that whole match was just... really fucking flat.. no pacing at all it seemed really... And the finish was really... really MEH. Especially after HBM/Taker in general. Then Cena/Show/Edge had a solid finish... that just almost seemed... substandard.

[Innovator]

Orton could have been made tonight....

[Theo Dious]

HEY GUYS LOOK, EVERY FACE BUT JERICHO WON!

Matt Hardy, ass face.

[BobBitchen]

What happened to money in the bank and the tag title unification?

wtf son of a bitch i missed them

Punk won MIB
and
I guess The colans won.

[CSL]

What is the name of this song playing?

If you're on about the one before AC/DC, it's Touched by VAST. It's pretty awesome

[KaliKot]

At least WM20 ended with a great main event. This was just a snorefest

[HeartBreakMan2k]

How did I miss the Bella on a pole match. Was it not shown? I watched all 4.5 hours of this.

Dark match.

[Theo Dious]

The show was very solid, but given the world title endings, they were out of order.

And again, nobody should ever wrestle after HBM. If he isn't on last next year, his match should be broadcast in a totally seperate show the previous night.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Only managed to see bits and pieces of the stream tonight, but whenever I watched, it seemed like everything was dead. Barely any emotion at all in the main event from the announce team, the crowd actually seemed pretty dead, and this was one hell of a way to piss all over everything Orton's done the past three months.

They sure as shit better have a good Raw tomorrow night, because this PPV was very flat outside of the Undertaker/Michaels match.

[Juan]

booooo

[Not Booked]

Matt Hardy, ass face.

It was such a garbage-wrestling extravaganza people have already forgotten that match happened. :p

[BobBitchen]

Dark match.


Thanks.

[Droford]

Im gonna watch HBK/Taker again as soon as I can get it rewound back there.

[Pegasus Crawford]

New Wrestlemania rule. No one is to ever follow HBM ever again.

:y::y::y:

[Stealth-Icon]

HEY GUYS LOOK, EVERY FACE BUT JERICHO WON!

When did Jericho become a face again?

[wwe2222]

that sucked.

[Theo Dious]

Only managed to see bits and pieces of the stream tonight, but whenever I watched, it seemed like everything was dead. Barely any emotion at all in the main event from the announce team, the crowd actually seemed pretty dead, and this was one hell of a way to piss all over everything Orton's done the past three months.

The crowd was ass. The Hardy match was choppy but good, and both title matches were good, just out of place

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Well... I do have work at 5am... i guess they did me a favor..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Alright I'm tuned into the replay without any knowledge of what happened other than the tail end with Triple H winning (of course). So now I'm ready for some ACTION. Woooooooo

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Orton could have been made tonight....

I don't get it....When he was huge the first time around, he won the title, and they boned it by making him HHH's bitch.... This time around, he's even bigger, and when they finally get the chance to pull the trigger... they make him HHH's bitch.

[BobBitchen]

HEY GUYS LOOK, EVERY FACE BUT JERICHO WON!

Jerkaho is not a face. But the fake punch from roarke (SICOP) was enough to kick his ass.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I mean.. Orton was... absolutely made when he kicked Vince... and they completely... shit, they didn't even drop the ball... they threw it into the ground...

[wwe2222]

2 Thumbs up to HBK/Undertaker and Ricky Steamboat...Steamboat looked great considering age and the fact he hasnt wrestled in a couple years.

Overall this may have been my least favorite Wrestlemania.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

LOL @ the poll results

Yeah, about right.

[thedamndest]

I don't get it....When he was huge the first time around, he won the title, and they boned it by making him HHH's bitch.... This time around, he's even bigger, and when they finally get the chance to pull the trigger... they make him HHH's bitch.

HHH=new Hogan.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Wooooooooo The Fink!

Also damn this chick singing America the Beautiful is hot.

Good start.

[Pegasus Crawford]

Where's the "Loose Cannon" option on the poll? :lol:

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

LOL @ the ending.

I was this close to considering tuning into more WWE programming until that moment.

Maybe next year.

[Stealth-Icon]

This should be a run away poll

[Innovator]

I demand Steamboat vs. Jericho at Backlash

And for WWE creative to stop pouring dirt on Orton

[KaliKot]

but HHH is still Cena's bitch

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Alright MITB to open. Nice pace setter.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

but HHH is still Cena's bitch

Maybe that's it. Triple H decided he's only willing to put over one of the new guys and it just happened to be Cena...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://www.justin.tv/xev0xkill2

this stream is fantastic

[Exyle]

Glad I didn't actually buy this one. Cheers to free streams.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Mark Henry is 392 lbs? Bullshit

[Johnny Vegas]

I still can't believe Steamboat went at it like that....if it was just Jericho/Steamboat, it would've probably been considered a classic match.

[thedamndest]

How did they miss that stream?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

YESSSSSSSSS FINLAY OLD SCHOOL JACKET

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I have never marked out for Fit Finlay in my life and I just did

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I still can't believe Steamboat went at it like that....if it was just Jericho/Steamboat, it would've probably been considered a classic match.

Can't say it'd be a classic, but it would have been much better than what the actual match was.

[Johnny Vegas]

Can't say it'd be a classic, but it would have been much better than what the actual match was.

For a guy that is probably in his 50s, AND Jericho being in it..i think it would've been 4* at the LEAST. Of course not a HBK/Hart match, but definitely an Old School/New School WM classic.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I think I would love Kofi Kingston if Michael Cole didn't call his matches.

"The controlled frenzy of Kofi Kingston" fuck off Mitchell

[HeartBreakMan2k]

For a guy that is probably in his 50s, AND Jericho being in it..i think it would've been 4* at the LEAST. Of course not a HBK/Hart match, but definitely an Old School/New School WM classic.

DOn't get me wrong, I marked the holy hell out for Ricky. I love him to death, but i just don't know how good of ring shape he's actually in as far as cardio goes.

[Jaded-Dragon]

I don't get it....When he was huge the first time around, he won the title, and they boned it by making him HHH's bitch.... This time around, he's even bigger, and when they finally get the chance to pull the trigger... they make him HHH's bitch.

Could it be that the first time around you had a green Orton that was horrible on the mic and couldn't rest hold his way into a decent match? Could it be that the majority of smarks on this board were constantly cursing Vinnie Mac, asking how he could possibly put the belt on Orton?


And I guess I'm alone in thinking this now but I still think he's boring as all hell. He still sounds like a damn robot on the mic, and no, he does not have the workrate needed to make you forget about that.

Where did all this Orton love come from? Has he ever had a good match where he wasn't completely carried?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Holy shit Shelton

[The Gold Standard]

They built up the match so much and it was very disappointing. The match just didn't do anything for me. It was very boring and made me go home unhappy after a Mania, I don't think I ever felt that way after a Mania