Better Wrestler #84

[Jeritron]

Ultimo sneaks past the legend killer, and is just one win shy of reaching the BW HoF. Will he be able to edge past his 5th and final opponent?



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Ultimo Dragon

VS


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Edge




3 days.

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[CSL]

Edge. Only level Dragon can compete on is as a worker, other than that, Edge kills him in every other category.

[Juan]

Damn you Geraldtron

[Juan]

I predict the outcome will be 39-5, Edge.

[Nicky Fives]

No chance in hell for Dragon... Edge by a landslide

[Xero]

Edge.

LOL, side note. Someone in the Vault on Sunday was saying Cena and Hogan were better wrestlers than Edge.

[Volare]

Cena Rulz duh! gawd xero u suk at noing thingz!1!!




BTW. I voted Rated R.

[DaveBrawl]

Voted, for Dragon. Not like it's gonna amount to anything though.

[Dorkchop]

Edge. I liked him for a while, then he got injured. it took him a while after he came back from neck surgery to become entertaining in the ring, but for the past two years (give or take a few months) he's been awesome. I think he started to become awesome again shortly before Lita left the company.

[TheHaunted]

Edge,
I've liked him since his Brood days.

[Loose Cannon]

Edge.

LOL, side note. Someone in the Vault on Sunday was saying Cena and Hogan were better wrestlers than Edge.

I was going to make a thread about this and I still may because I do like it, but....

I was reading Bret's book this weekend and he said the way he rated wrestlers when he was in his young WWE days was on a 3 category scale. Each category was rated on a 1-10 scale.

I will have to check again, but I think his categories were

Talking
Look
Workrate

And if your score was in the high 20's, you are a good wrestler. He acutally rated himself in the low 20's (good workrate, low for talking, middle for look)


I like this a lot.

[Lock Jaw]

Ed.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Adam Copeland easily. Especially considering he's been able to remain consistently entertaining while everything else has gone to shit around him.

[Rammsteinmad]

Ha ha! Edge all the way! Edge is awesome, no way he's jobbing to Ultimo Dragon! I'm now hoping Edge can make it to the BW HoF!

[TSI]

edge wins this one with no problems. when mr. copeland retires hes gonna be known as one of the best of all time, he's that good

[Testicle]

Edge is by far my choice, although Ultimo did wonders for cruiserwieght wrestling in the states and Japan, I have to go with the 9-time world champion. Edge has been main-eventing for 4 years now and his work has been at an elite level, by far IMO the WWEs best heel over that time span.

[USAUSA1]

Interesting, Dragon definitely had more influence and Edge is a WWE product and nothing more. I like wrestlers diverse, a person that travel the world(as in working for multiple organizations and learning different styles). I give this to Dragon

[Xero]

lol this is a slaughter. I didn't think it would be THIS terrible.

[Juan]

I'm not voting in this one. I love both guys and I don't want to vote against either one of them.

[Mantas]

I'll vote for the Dragon since its a total blow out.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Edge is good.

[James Steele]

Edge is the best heel since 2000 Triple H.

[The Gold Standard]

I love Edge, I don't know of many guys who would beat him.

[Destor]

Outragous. Ultimo ftw.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Edge. Only level Dragon can compete on is as a worker, other than that, Edge kills him in every other category.

This is why Pillman should have won. Pillman is better than Ultimo in every catgory. He's also better than Edge in every category.

[FourFifty]

Edge, in every way, shape, and form.

[Xero]

Even form of a dragon?

[Stealth-Icon]

Rated R Superstar

[RatedGSuperstar]

Ultimo's impressive in the ring, but Edge is the total package.

[Fabien Barthez]

This is why Pillman should have won. Pillman is better than Ultimo in every catgory. He's also better than Edge in every category.

Well, no.

He was a great worker pre WWE, and a great talker post WCW. Edge has done both in the same show. for years.

Ultimo is obviously better in the ring, but for me... talking is a big part of it, as are storylines. That is just because I am mostly exposed to US style wrestling. As a result, I have the thinking that a great match will have you watching for as long as it goes, but a great fued or storyline can have you gripped to the show for weeks and months.

Therefore, I give this to Edge, because I think he is great, and when its all said and done, with the above justification, Edge has entertained me for hours more than Dragon.

[The Optimist]

I'm so sorry Ultimo.

[USAUSA1]

Damn, Edge won. He wouldn't hold a candle to Kevin Nash though. NEXT POLL

[The Mackem]

Did this stop because Ultimo Dragon lost? Damn you Funky Fly :mad: