UFC 100 Discussion, thoughts, spoilers

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I know there are several other threads in regards to 100, but those have been more general speculation threads, I figured I'd start up the official spoilers thread.

Who all is ordering the show?

Also, interesting note - Lashley is in Vegas and going to be in attendance according to his twitter. Speculate away.

[Savio]

Lashley with a run-in

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Not a spoiler, but something funny from the prelims.

Tom Lawlor is coming to the cage with "Who Let the Dogs out?" playing. Seth Petruzelli is on a chain, bone in mouth, walking on all fours.

[Danny Electric]

So I just got 4 hours of sleep and am ready to watch this :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

AND HERE WE GO!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Just finished reading the final results for the prelims, and a fucking stunning finish to one of them. I won't post it until after the show in the event they show it.

[Y2Ant]

I like how we get this for free on the racing channel, god bless setanta for going bust.

[Danny Electric]

Lol, don't know what people were complaining about.
The stream is perfect, probably jinxed it now though.

[St. Jimmy]

FREE Online stream anyone?

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Try Channelsurfing.net

Anyway, Akiyama/Belcher up first.

[Danny Electric]

Best entrance music ever :)

[Y2Ant]

rofl @ akiyama's entrance theme

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Also, Sopcast is supposedly running well right now as well.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Time to say goodbye lol

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Akiyama in the UFC is a pretty big deal, I've got him picked but Belcher could be the spoiler here.

[Danny Electric]

Let's get it on!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Akiyama got hit in the jiblets!... nasty like

[Danny Electric]

That's got to hurt.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Belcher will probably be a little bit hesitant to throw that kick now.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

ooor maybe not.

[Danny Electric]

Some great kicks

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I was a little worried about Belcher's size going into this, but still gotta have faith in Akiyama.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Sick left kick right punch combo

[Danny Electric]

Good first round.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Good god Belcher turns his hip over well for his leg kicks. They are fucking nasty.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Wow, they are gassed...

[Danny Electric]

Wearing my GSP tee :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

If Akiyama doesn't do something this round Belcher is going to spoil his debut and at the very least win a decision. I've got him winning the first and second round so far I think...

[Danny Electric]

Good opening fight so far, gonna try and not pass out before the wnd :)

[Savio]

Jon Jones won :cool:

[Danny Electric]

Superman punch :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Wow, are you serious?!

I wanted Akiyama to win but What... The... Fuck was that?

And how do you give Akiyama every round?

Bullshit, feel bad for Belcher there.

[Danny Electric]

I saw that the other way

[Y2Ant]

:o

[Tb1]

Stream anyone?

[Danny Electric]

Come on Bisping!

[Savio]

Hoping mir gets destroyed

[Danny Electric]

Blur :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

To me, Belcher had that 2 rounds to 1. The second round being the only one I gave to Akiyama.

Anyway, Let's go HENDOOOOOOO! Destroy that cunt.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I want those Clinch Gear trunks.. :o

[Danny Electric]

Beat the old man ;)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Beat the old man ;)

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Nice footwork there from the cunt... erm, Bisping.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

He's still gonna get fucked up though...

[HeartBreakMan2k]

USA! USA! USA!

[Danny Electric]

Lol :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

WHOOOOOO! HENDO! Great first round. Sucks not fighting cans eh Bisping?

[Danny Electric]

Henderson is fighting a good fight.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Bisping is fighting a hell of a 2nd round though...

[HeartBreakMan2k]

GOOOD FUCKIN NIGHT!!!

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Disgusting knockout!

WHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! HOLLYWOOD HENDO!

[Savio]

USA USA USA

lol

[HeartBreakMan2k]

In case anyone hasn't noticed; I hate Bisping and adore Henderson.

[Danny Electric]

:(
Bisping can never do it in the big fights :(

[RoXer]

Wow

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Haha, Hendo's a dick. :cool:

[HeartBreakMan2k]

"And that one... that one was just to shut him up a little bit"

[Danny Electric]

Fucking asshole

[Danny Electric]

I hope he gets herpes tonight

[Savio]

hey DE...hey be nice

[Danny Electric]

:) Just as HBK said, what a dick :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

:) Just as HBK said, what a dick :)

I liked it though. Bisping's been nothing but a dick, he deserved to get his block knocked off. :y:

HBM approves of Dan Henderson's actions.

[Danny Electric]

COME ON GSPPPPPPPPP :)

[Danny Electric]

I liked it though. Bisping's been nothing but a dick, he deserved to get his block knocked off. :y:

HBM approves of Dan Henderson's actions.

That's how Bisping is, don't mean you have to throw down on a guy you know is kocked out.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That's how Bisping is, don't mean you have to throw down on a guy you know is kocked out.

UFC says to throw until the ref stops you. That's how you finish a fight. The second you don't throw until the ref stops the fight is the day you lose a match.

[Danny Electric]

Shh I'm upset ;)

[Danny Electric]

If it was the other way round I would have agreed :P

[HeartBreakMan2k]

And it's also why you don't be a cunt and talk shit when you're facing a legend.

[Danny Electric]

Fair enough.

[Danny Electric]

GSP GSP GSP GSP

Wore this tee to work today too :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I am supporting GSP here though, so we can get along again now though. That being said, I wouldn't be shocked if Thiago pulls an upset.

Kinda suprised Calvin Kline hasn't tried to make GSP some shorts as a sponsorship tbh.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That was a slightly man crush level comment :o

[HeartBreakMan2k]

lol, from Rogan's twitter

Dan Henderson = HOLY FUCK

[Danny Electric]

I know exactly what you mean (man crush), Thiago looked great against Matt Hughes, albeit an ageing Matt Hughes.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Good grief GSP's wrestling is nasty.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

lol

OLAY!

[Danny Electric]

Come on GSP

[Danny Electric]

Just too good in that round

[Danny Electric]

Bisping lost in front of Statham :(

[Danny Electric]

Dominating from GSP

[HeartBreakMan2k]

His shoots are so good... they are beyond text book the way he lifts.

[Danny Electric]

I see this going the distance though

[Danny Electric]

Screw that :)

[Danny Electric]

Daniel son :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Good grief, it's time for GSP/Silva if this goes the way it's been going...

[Danny Electric]

Great counter

[HeartBreakMan2k]

GSP just said he pulled his groin....

[Danny Electric]

Got to hurt , just forget the groin lol

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Maybe the injury doesn't matter.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yup, time for Anderson/GSP

[Danny Electric]

I agree.

[Danny Electric]

It looks like it hurts :)

[Danny Electric]

Always comes across as a really decent guy.

[Danny Electric]

Eli Roth with a baseball bat :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

This fight makes me very nervous. I love Lesnar but Frank is fucking talented on the ground. Disgustingly talented. Hopefully he doesn't realize that potential tonight...

[Danny Electric]

Frank Mir comes across as a bit of a cock.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

That's because he is a cock.

[Danny Electric]

Like I really want to see him get knocked out.

[Rob]

GSP is fucking awesome. Who can beat this man?

Bisping's KO was fucking sick. There is no excuses for Dan Henderson saying he knew he was out and still launched to attack him though. People get seriously hurt with actions like that.

I'm 1-2 in picks so far and it should be 0-3. Akiyama is blowing one of the judges obviously.

[Danny Electric]

But I was reading about him in an interview on MSN the other day and he came across as a decent guy in that so I don't know.

[Danny Electric]

GSP is fucking awesome. Who can beat this man?

Bisping's KO was fucking sick. There is no excuses for Dan Henderson saying he knew he was out and still launched to attack him though. People get seriously hurt with actions like that.

I'm 1-2 in picks so far and it should be 0-3. Akiyama is blowing one of the judges obviously.


I said that too but got told lol
You watching it on Sky, the stream has been really good.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I was about to get pissed when I saw Yamisake out there... then I saw Herb in the ring and I'm now breathing again.

[Rob]

Tom Lawlor is the man by the way. He cut a promo saying he wants to fight Mir or Lesnar and then said he'll drop to 170lbs for GSP. A great man! :D

[Savio]

Really metallica allowed them to use this?

[Rob]

I said that too but got told lol
You watching it on Sky, the stream has been really good.

Yeah I'm on Sky.

People who say anyone deserves to be pounded on when a guy is out needs to be put in the same position. If Hendo lied and said he never knew then okay but he admitted he knew he was out. Very low class.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

WHoooo, let's go Lesnar. Can't wait. Goosebumps. Steam of consciousness post rule yeah!

[Rob]

Really metallica allowed them to use this?

They aren't promoting it or using it to sell a DVD so Metallica can't do fuck all.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Really metallica allowed them to use this?

Second, maybe third time he's come out to them.

[Savio]

do they have to dub it on the DVDs?

[Danny Electric]

Come on Lesnar, make up for Bisping losing :)
I think he has to knock him out pretty early though

[Rob]

do they have to dub it on the DVDs?

No entrances on DVD's.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

do they have to dub it on the DVDs?

DVD's don't ever really show entrances.

[Danny Electric]

Yeah I'm on Sky.

People who say anyone deserves to be pounded on when a guy is out needs to be put in the same position. If Hendo lied and said he never knew then okay but he admitted he knew he was out. Very low class.


I agree, came across in a really bad light to me and he's a guy who I've always had respect for.

[Danny Electric]

Good first round for Brock

[Danny Electric]

That knee :)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Was looking forward to the enterance music choices but they were both pretty lackluster.

Did they not tap gloves before the fight? It was hard, kinda got a dodgy picture here

[Rob]

So who was wrong about Frank Mir?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Flying knee, wow did that connect?

[Danny Electric]

yesssssssssssssssssssss

[Rob]

Brock Lesnar is the fucking man!!!! He wants to go again!!! :D :D :D

[Savio]

woot!

[Rob]

I love Lesnar. This guy is money! :D

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow knocked the fuck out

[HeartBreakMan2k]

WHHOOOOOO

"Talk all the shit you want now"

[Savio]

lol

[Juan]

Fucking nice

[Danny Electric]

That guy is fucking ready to go.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Flipping off all the fans hahaha fucking sick

[Rob]

The greatest promo in UFC history!!!!

[Rob]

Mir looks like he was hit by a truck.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

ROFL

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I'm gonna drink a Coors Light haha

[Danny Electric]

Why is the Fitch fight now?

[CSL]

FUCKING AV ITTTTTTTTT

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

HAHAHA he's married to fucking Sable? Are you kidding me?

[Savio]

Now the real main event

[G]

CAUSE BUD LIGHT WONT PAY ME NOTHIN :rofl:

[Rob]

HAHAHA he's married to fucking Sable? Are you kidding me?

You just figured that out?

I loved her giving the fans the finger on the way out too :D

[UmbrellaCorporation]

ROFL, Lesnar is the man.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Brock is the heel that Tito tried to be (and came damn close) and the UFC needs.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The stream I was just watching just got shut down too, great timing

[HeartBreakMan2k]

You cannot at all blame Brock Lesnar, he gets ZERO respect so why bother giving any?

[Danny Electric]

Ive got work in 4 hours :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Ive got work in 4 hours :)

Me too! :)!




:(:nono::'(

[CSL]

HERE COMES THE PAIN

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You just figured that out?Figured someone was gonna say that

I don't really follow UFC

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

"Big names" on Twitter are blowing up about Lesnar's speech, it's definitely a good thing for UFC.

[YOUR Hero]

I hate Brock.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

"Big names" on Twitter are blowing up about Lesnar's speech, it's definitely a good thing for UFC.

I hate Brock.

Unless you are old school

[Danny Electric]

Brock hates you , seems like it :)

[HeartBreakMan2k]

LOL, from Carwin's twitter.

He won't be able to lay on Cain or me.

Shane's crazy lol

[Rob]

Figured someone was gonna say that

I don't really follow UFC

He was with her when he was in WWE.

[Rob]

LOL, from Carwin's twitter.

He won't be able to lay on Cain or me.

Shane's crazy lol

Indeed he is.

[Rob]

Why is the Fitch fight now?

They changed the order at the risk of the two main events going 5 rounds. They have done this before. I remember Kenny Florian fighting last once because of the same thing.

[Danny Electric]

Thanks

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He was with her when he was in WWE.

Didn't follow WWE then either lol stopped watching by the time he came around

[Rob]

I'm going to bed.

[Danny Electric]

Same

[muffalufagus]

BROCK FUCKING LESNAR! UFC's #1 heel. I'm an even bigger fan now than I was before. Why give respect when you don't get it? I don't see anyone stopping Brock any time soon.

[Nark Order]

The whole night was just pretty perfect all around for me. Lesnar dominating, Henderson blowing Bisping's head off, and an impressive 5 round domination from GSP.

LOL @ Lesnar still talking smack to Mir after he destroyed him. Maybe Mir shouldn't open his mouth so much.

[muffalufagus]

I'm surprised that Bisping's jaw isn't broken. That was one of the sickest KO's I've ever seen.

UFC Heavyweight Rule #1: Don't piss off Brock Lesnar.

[Terra Ryzin]

i haaaaate lesner...and not cause of the little promo and flipping the fans off. his fights are boring as hell and without his size he just sucks..big dumb ogar

and not cause im a mir and herring mark :shifty:

[Nark Order]

And before I get a bunch of "That's just how MMA is, all guys talk shit" I would like to say I agree but there's always a chance that the guy you're talking smack to is going to take it more seriously than he should. People may think twice now about all of the mouth running they do on Lesnar. I still doubt it though.

Brock is awesome.

-edit- Also, speaking of talking smack... Bisping may also think twice next time as well. I'd like to see some Rashad-esque knock out photos of Bisping here.

[Terra Ryzin]

also anyone know what sites have the prelims up? the site i usualy go to dosent have them..has all the others though for anyone who didnt see it

http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/

aslo hendo is tha MAN!!!! always been a huge hendo fan and the fight went 100% as i though it would

[muffalufagus]

i haaaaate lesner...and not cause of the little promo and flipping the fans off. his fights are boring as hell and without his size he just sucks..big dumb ogar

and not cause im a mir and herring mark :shifty:

I like both guys as well, but I like Lesnar more. I don't think his two fights with Mir were boring at all. He's only going to get better too.

[Nark Order]

LOL @ all of the "All he fucking did was lay on Mir the entire time" posts on Sherdog right now. Yes, I'm sure that's why Mir's face looked like Hamburger at the end of the fight.

[Hanso Amore]

Few times in history has one man dominated another, tonight is one

[muffalufagus]

LOL @ all of the "All he fucking did was lay on Mir the entire time" posts on Sherdog right now. Yes, I'm sure that's why Mir's face looked like Hamburger at the end of the fight.

People are going to continue to hate on Lesnar no matter what. I guess these long time MMA fans or MMA fans in general can't stomach the fact that a former pro wrestler is on top of the sport in the heavyweight division.

[Terra Ryzin]

I like both guys as well, but I like Lesnar more. I don't think his two fights with Mir were boring at all. He's only going to get better too.

cause all the excitment was mir trying to get the big goon of him and mirs stand up looked real good..i know its the game, some fighers have more skill..some have size..some just heart..thats what makes the so sport great.

[Nark Order]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2450/3666573131_6219a77667_o.jpg

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Brock cut an awesome promo lol

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kinda wish I still had my old marketing job at Anheuser-Busch just to see their reaction to Lesnar's promo and his dig at Bud Light lol

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Very impressed with the stream. Only went down for about 5 seconds between fights, and excellent picture quality.

Mir's little sister must have some devastating ground and pound, by the way. ;)

[Gonzo]

Never been a huge UFC fan but I watched UFC 100 tonight with some buddies and it was awesome.

Great bouts all around, agreed with the decisions, the knockouts were awesome.

Definitely something I could get into on a regular basis.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Sexyama decision was alright, personally I'd have called it a draw... the only reason people were "confused" is because as much as I love Joe Rogan he is biased against Japanese fighters, he ignored most of Sexyama's offense and if you guys watched that fight with the sound down you'd prolly see it a little different. Also, I'd give the first round to him because he came back in a big way. Also the knockdown was because he was in a position to be knocked down, as rogan pointed out... he wasn't rocked or hurt, he just fell because of the position of his body. Third round as well, he did well to rally late in the round and land some big shots.

On another note I hope someone can get a gif of that close up of brock after he won, when he looks into the camera and totally goes hilarious monster heel into it.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I still can't believe Lesnar's post fight speech, unreal

[muffalufagus]

I still can't believe Lesnar's post fight speech, unreal

I honestly think if he fought anyone else, the speech wouldn't have nearly been as over the top as it was. I think he was still raged about Mir's comments and was just shooting from the hip. I enjoyed it though. It's got people talking, and it's pissing people off. You have two sets of people with Lesnar right now... People who want him to destroy, and people who want to see him destroyed. He's such a huge draw.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I bet Sable got her asshole ripped in half tonight.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Flipping off the fans, the dig at Bud Light, not even talking about the fight when Joe Rogan was trying to ask him questions. Fucking great

Was like a Tyson interview in that it was pretty memorable but obviously very different in content lol

[Nark Order]

LOL, Sherdog is just going absolutely apeshit.

[Volare]

I'm reading on Sherdog right now, absolute Lesnar bashing. Looks like he's doing his job, helping put asses in seats because everyone wants to see him get beat.

[Volare]

Oh, BTW I was drinking Coors last night too.

[Rob]

The Sexyama decision was alright, personally I'd have called it a draw... the only reason people were "confused" is because as much as I love Joe Rogan he is biased against Japanese fighters, he ignored most of Sexyama's offense and if you guys watched that fight with the sound down you'd prolly see it a little different. Also, I'd give the first round to him because he came back in a big way. Also the knockdown was because he was in a position to be knocked down, as rogan pointed out... he wasn't rocked or hurt, he just fell because of the position of his body. Third round as well, he did well to rally late in the round and land some big shots.

On another note I hope someone can get a gif of that close up of brock after he won, when he looks into the camera and totally goes hilarious monster heel into it.

When you get knocked down, you get knocked down. It counts the same regardless of how flash it is. There is NO WAY Belcher lost that fight. Even Akiyama knew it. Look at his own reaction. He got absolutely dominated.

[Savio]

jones def O'brian by spinning back elbow suplex! :lol:

[Rob]

I can't bare any Sherdog posts.

[Gonzo]

When you get knocked down, you get knocked down. It counts the same regardless of how flash it is. There is NO WAY Belcher lost that fight. Even Akiyama knew it. Look at his own reaction. He got absolutely dominated.

I don't really think Belcher dominated him.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Sexyama deserves auto win for the entrance.

And Belcher's an arrogant trailer trash dick anyway.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

When you get knocked down, you get knocked down. It counts the same regardless of how flash it is. There is NO WAY Belcher lost that fight. Even Akiyama knew it. Look at his own reaction. He got absolutely dominated.

He didn't get absolutely dominated. Calm down Rob :p

There's arguments to say Belcher won the fight but it was not "absolute domination".

[Mr. Monday Morning]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2340/1247367977823.gif

BOOM Headshot

[Rob]

He didn't get absolutely dominated. Calm down Rob :p

There's arguments to say Belcher won the fight but it was not "absolute domination".

It was very clear Belcher won two rounds. One was debatable but if it was gonna be 30-27, it was for the wrong man. Like I said, Akiyama'a own reaction said everything.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

If it was very clear he won two rounds he would've gotten the decision even excluding the 30-27.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It was very clear Belcher won two rounds. One was debatable but if it was gonna be 30-27, it was for the wrong man. Like I said, Akiyama'a own reaction said everything.

Everyone I was in the room with felt Akiyama won the fight. Sherdog judges in the play by play (look I realize they're douchebags but still) felt Akiyama won the fight. Also in the Observer report I believe Bryan Alvarez said some thought Akiyama was winning some felt Belcher was winning. Akiyama was probably relieved to get the decision given how fucking tired he was which is why he probably reacter the way he did. But he landed many effective strikes during the fight and in the first round stole it after he got knocked down because he controlled most of the round before and after that. It was a flash knockdown.

Belcher also could have won the fight as well. He however DID NOT dominate Akiyama. Akiyama had him hurt and was controlling him at different points in the fight. Belcher also had Akiyama hurt and was controlling him, but was doing his best damage after an eyepoke, and I'm also pretty sure he kicked him in the balls on purpose lol.

In my opinion it shoulda been a draw, and in no way was 30-27 Akiyama or Belcher. It's easy to think Akiyama got dominated because all Rogan did was focus on Belcher's offence.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If it was very clear he won two rounds he would've gotten the decision even excluding the 30-27.

Your post= shorter yet better than mine.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Akiyama-Belcher.html

Those are the stats. Seems pretty close to me, definitely not "total domination" Robert :p

[Sixx]

That's how Bisping is, don't mean you have to throw down on a guy you know is kocked out.

Hah, cocked out.

[Rob]

If it was very clear he won two rounds he would've gotten the decision even excluding the 30-27.

How do you figure that then? Two judges gave Akiyama the 3rd round where the stats show he was beaten in every department there.

The 30-27 judge clearly just came up with his/her own way of scoring fights since knockdowns and causing damage obviously mean nothing.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

How do you figure that then? Two judges gave Akiyama the 3rd round where the stats show he was beaten in every department there.

The 30-27 judge clearly just came up with his/her own way of scoring fights since knockdowns and causing damage obviously mean nothing.

Akiyama was getting beaten in the third round and rallied late. I don't know if it was worth a win in the round, but maybe to the judges it was :S

Either way it was a difficult fight to score, lots of people will be upset with the results either way.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

How do you figure that then? Two judges gave Akiyama the 3rd round where the stats show he was beaten in every department there.


Unless I'm missing something you have no way of knowing who gave who which round. In which case you're speculating.

[Rob]

I just read the scoring. I thought it was here but it was on the F4W boards. I'll copy and paste it.

[Stickman]

lol...Sherdog.

[Rob]

Okay now I can't get on that board. I'll C&P it the second I can.

[Nark Order]

According to Yahoo, both Brock and Dan Henderson got a "stern talking to". Yeah, OK. Frank Mir talks 8 months worth the jive on Brock and that's alright. Brock does it after the fight and he's the biggest asshole in UFC history. To his face no less, and not behind his back.

Also, the Hendo thing is even more fucking ridiculous. You are told to fight until the ref pulls you off. White should be reprimanding the referee for not being in the right place and not Hendo who was following the rules that were laid out for him.

[Nark Order]

And I guarentee the only thing Dana was mad at was the Bud/Coors light debacle. Everything he I think he just feels he has to cooment on because he's getting pressure.

[McLegend]

Yeah, but Henderson said he knew he was out, and he still went at him like that.

No way anyone in the UFC liked that.

[Nark Order]

Listen, I'll say it again. You are told to fight until the ref pulls you off. It's that black and white. Maybe Mario Yamasaki won't be so far away next time.

[Rob]

If Brock did was Henderson did, the sport would be in uproar because it's the former pro wrestler.

Henderson has absolutely no excuses for what he did. He only made himself look a cunt anyway because if he just lied and said he didn't know Bisping was out cold, nobody would have argued. When you admited you beat on men who are out cold, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Nark Order]

Bisping fan much?

[McLegend]

Listen, I'll say it again. You are told to fight until the ref pulls you off. It's that black and white. Maybe Mario Yamasaki won't be so far away next time.

Mario Yamasaki actually moved pretty fast if you see the replay.

[CSL]

If Bisping did it to Henderson, America might have declared World War III by now

[Loose Cannon]

OMG, just wacthed the Brock fight and I just became the biggest Lesnar fan.

Middle fingers right to the crowd :love:

edit, dam reading this thread now and it looks like he gave a great speech at the end, but my download cut it off.

Seriously though, it was a slow fight, but that's Brock's game. Most people, including me, love the stand up fast paced swing fest, but this was a methological attack by Brock. Mir can go fuck himself now

[Nark Order]

Well, maybe the rules need to be changed then. It was within the rules and tons of fighters would've done the same thing.

Remember when Matt Brown showed mercy against Pete Sell? Brown knew Sell was out and told the ref to stop the fight but the ref told him to keep hitting the guy. You never know. You go until you're told to stop.

[Loose Cannon]

I haven't seen anything else yet

[Loose Cannon]

lol, reading this thread. glad you'll liked the Brock antics as well.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If Brock did was Henderson did, the sport would be in uproar because it's the former pro wrestler.

Henderson has absolutely no excuses for what he did. He only made himself look a cunt anyway because if he just lied and said he didn't know Bisping was out cold, nobody would have argued. When you admited you beat on men who are out cold, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Heat of the moment, and you can fight til the ref stops you. At least he didn't pussyfoot around it in the interview, he was straight up.

[Rob]

Bisping fan much?

Yeah of course. I mean, I would think it would have been fine if was someone else obviously. Fucking idiot.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

OMG, just wacthed the Brock fight and I just became the biggest Lesnar fan.

Middle fingers right to the crowd :love:

edit, dam reading this thread now and it looks like he gave a great speech at the end, but my download cut it off.

Seriously though, it was a slow fight, but that's Brock's game. Most people, including me, love the stand up fast paced swing fest, but this was a methological attack by Brock. Mir can go fuck himself now

He's so strong and monstrous that every punch he lands means something. The slow/ploddingness is entertaining because of the damage he does.

[Nark Order]

Rob. Bisping had no business even fighitng Hendo. Bisping talked a bunch of ridiculousness and Hendo kept quiet. In the fight Hendo wanted to shut him up and he did. It's that simple. If the ref didn't want the extra hit then he should've stopped it before it happened. It's really that simple. I don't know what you're going on about here. The ref is to blame for being out of position. You are allowed to fight until the ref steps in.

[Reavant]

Yeah, but Henderson said he knew he was out, and he still went at him like that.

No way anyone in the UFC liked that.

If Brock did was Henderson did, the sport would be in uproar because it's the former pro wrestler.

Henderson has absolutely no excuses for what he did. He only made himself look a cunt anyway because if he just lied and said he didn't know Bisping was out cold, nobody would have argued. When you admited you beat on men who are out cold, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Im assuming you guys are all going off of what henderson said right after he won with joe rogan... which he said that last one was to shut him up a little...

I on the other hand listened to what was said in the interviews where he said it was a reaction to follow him to the ground and blast him and while he was dropping he knew he was out, but once your flying in the air with a fist to the face, you cant stop yourself. But hes honest and he said that it still felt good, because he had to listen to the real cunt talk shit for however many months.

Also Henderson never once hit bisbing once the ref pushed him off. I like how you guys are all pissed because the fighter you liked got beat, but not one person talked shit when rampage KOed silva and followed him to the ground where he immediately was grabbed by the reff but continued to hit silva THREE MORE TIMES in the face.

[Nark Order]

I like how you guys are all pissed because the fighter you liked got beat, but not one person talked shit when rampage KOed silva and followed him to the ground where he immediately was grabbed by the reff but continued to hit silva THREE MORE TIMES in the face.

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices the double standard here.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

But guys... I mean really... pommies being whingers? Any surprise? :p

JOKING

[Nark Order]

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[Nark Order]

Now all we need is some Rashad-esque knock out photo edits to really throw the shame on. I'm sure those wouldn't be quite as well recieved on here though as the Rashad ones were. It's not funny if it's Bisping.

[Volare]

Falcon Punch!

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[Nark Order]

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[Fox]

They aren't promoting it or using it to sell a DVD so Metallica can't do fuck all.

Wrong. They have to get permission for every song they use. It's called copyright and usage law, and if they are using music created by someone else for an event that is garnering them money (especially one on PPV), then they are legally obligated to get permission.

[Volare]

I bet they saw the size of Lesnar, and Dana threatened to sick him on the band so they said "sure."

[Rob]

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices the double standard here.

There isn't a double standard. Some guys are in a zone and whilst it's still wrong, I can understand that.

I can't understand anyone smashing someone they know it KO'd. BJ Penn told the ref Sean Sherk was finished when they fought. Matt Brown had to beg a ref to stop his fight with Pete Sell. Most guys aren't fucking idiots.

[Rob]

Wrong. They have to get permission for every song they use. It's called copyright and usage law, and if they are using music created by someone else for an event that is garnering them money (especially one on PPV), then they are legally obligated to get permission.

The music isn't helping them make money. They already made the money before the song played.

[Nark Order]

You fight until you are stopped. I just don't understand what you aren't getting here. If it's anybody's fault it's the refs for being out of position.

[McLegend]

Im assuming you guys are all going off of what henderson said right after he won with joe rogan... which he said that last one was to shut him up a little...

I on the other hand listened to what was said in the interviews where he said it was a reaction to follow him to the ground and blast him and while he was dropping he knew he was out, but once your flying in the air with a fist to the face, you cant stop yourself. But hes honest and he said that it still felt good, because he had to listen to the real cunt talk shit for however many months.

Also Henderson never once hit bisbing once the ref pushed him off. I like how you guys are all pissed because the fighter you liked got beat, but not one person talked shit when rampage KOed silva and followed him to the ground where he immediately was grabbed by the reff but continued to hit silva THREE MORE TIMES in the face.
No I don't think he should have hit him after wards, because he was def out. However that doesn't get me mad, because I understand the rules of MMA.

It's the fact that he admitted it that he did it for "revenge." Don't say that. UFC has every right to say something to Henderson, because they don't want to give people in the media any more firepower that think MMA fighters are out for blood.

Now I do love Bisping, but me liking him as nothing to do with this. I love Rampage, but I thought he shouldn't hit Silva 3 times after he was knocked out. Also the shot Rashad laid on Chuck when he was out was also pretty vicious.

[Nark Order]

But whether he did it for revenge or not, what he did was within the rules of competition. Nobody seems to be addressing this.

[McLegend]

I said it was acceptable in terms of the rules.

Next time just say I was following the rules. Instead of what he said, and maybe UFC doesn't say anything. They still might though, because it was pretty brutal.

[Reavant]

He never once said he saw him out and went to land an extra shot. You all are hearing what you want to hear. When asked about it he said that last one was to shut him up and when he went on to explain it he said he was following him to the ground like you should in a fight, and whiloe airborne he realized he was out, but its a little too late at that point. Plus the second the ref touched him he was off.

Maybe he should have been a little appologetic, but at the same time bisbing is a doochebag and if I had to fight a guy like that and the fight went down the same way, I probably wouldnt show much remorse either.

The difference between him and rampage was the ref was grabbing rampage when he was hitting silva, but you guys like rampage so no problem.

And did you watch the rashad/Liddell fight? he never hit him after he knocked him out... i stood over him to look and then the ref pushed him away.

[Nark Order]

I don't even know why Bisping fans are angry, tbh. At least now he can go back to winning fights now that he's going to be fed a bunch of cans again.

[McLegend]

He never once said he saw him out and went to land an extra shot. You all are hearing what you want to hear. When asked about it he said that last one was to shut him up and when he went on to explain it he said he was following him to the ground like you should in a fight, and whiloe airborne he realized he was out, but its a little too late at that point. Plus the second the ref touched him he was off.

Maybe he should have been a little appologetic, but at the same time bisbing is a doochebag and if I had to fight a guy like that and the fight went down the same way, I probably wouldnt show much remorse either.

The difference between him and rampage was the ref was grabbing rampage when he was hitting silva, but you guys like rampage so no problem.

And did you watch the rashad/Liddell fight? he never hit him after he knocked him out... i stood over him to look and then the ref pushed him away.

I believe you about the Rashad/Liddell fight. I def can be wrong about that.

There was one Rashad fight where he kicked someone in the head and the guy was out cold, and he hit him 3 times when he was down. It did look like it was a heat of the moment thing to. I thought that was brutal. Also Rashad did look worried after the fight when the guy stayed down for like 5-0 mintues.

Still though don't though if your Henderson don't say it. Most people outside of MMA don't care if Bisping is douchebag. They are just going to look at what happened and what he said and pick it apart.

[Rob]

Reavant you are wrong. He admitted it on the show and at the press conference (after saying it was a joke, he repeated the first part again).

[Vastardikai]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

There isn't a double standard. Some guys are in a zone and whilst it's still wrong, I can understand that.

I can't understand anyone smashing someone they know it KO'd. BJ Penn told the ref Sean Sherk was finished when they fought. Matt Brown had to beg a ref to stop his fight with Pete Sell. Most guys aren't fucking idiots.

Hendo was clearly still in the zone. He may have known he was k.o.ed but it was pretty clear he was still amped up. It's natural to follow up a knockdown punch with a follow up.

I actually like Bisping... I mean I was going for Hendo, but I like Mike. He got pwnd though, and the last punch was only an exclamation point. Hendo's only mistake was in the interview saying what he said... but I mean fuckit, he was pumped up, he just shutup the loudmouth for the time being.

[Reavant]

Reavant you are wrong. He admitted it on the show and at the press conference (after saying it was a joke, he repeated the first part again).

No Im not. He repeated that it felt good doing it and hasnt backed off that, but he never said he did it to hit an out opponent, he SAID in the press conference and the an interview in the locker room that he followed him down as a reaction... look at the speed from which he hit him to when he jumped on him, not much analyzing time there.

[Nark Order]

lol, Bisping. Must suck fighting fighters who aren't horrible.

[Rob]

Hendo was clearly still in the zone. He may have known he was k.o.ed but it was pretty clear he was still amped up. It's natural to follow up a knockdown punch with a follow up.

I actually like Bisping... I mean I was going for Hendo, but I like Mike. He got pwnd though, and the last punch was only an exclamation point. Hendo's only mistake was in the interview saying what he said... but I mean fuckit, he was pumped up, he just shutup the loudmouth for the time being.

If he said he was pumped up and didn't realise then there is no issue. That's the problem. He said he did know he was out (no matter what Reavant says).

[Reavant]

Go to espn.com and watch the mma live coverage where kenny florian and miguel torres interview him. He never said he knew before he threw the punch.

[Reavant]

Just watched the press conferebnce again on UFC.com and he said it was a "reaction in the moment" but hey your going to hear what you want to hear.

[Reavant]

Dan Henderson at the press conference

"when your in the heat of the moment, the ref hadnt stoped me yet, who knows whats going to happen. If hes going to recover or if theyre going to stop the fight. I really only hit him twice, once on the feet once on the ground. I didnt keep going I didnt go after the ref tried to stop me. It was just a reaction of mine to keep going till I was stopped. It did feel good though"

[Reavant]

Dan Henderson on MMA live

"It was a reaction ya know but in the middle of when I was already in the air when Im seeing my hand about to hit his face I knew that he was out, but its not something you can stop at the time and as soon as the ref stopped me it was done and it felt good to hit him that second time, but at the time i didnt know if he was going to recover right away or not. IUntil the ref stops it, its my job to keep going."

[Vastardikai]

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[Fox]

The music isn't helping them make money. They already made the money before the song played.

I didn't say the music was helping them make money, dude.

Nobody is ordering UFC 100 because Brock Lesnar is coming out to "Enter Sandman." That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying that for UFC to use that music during a live PPV broadcast, they must first purchase the rights to do so, even if only on that one-time basis, regardless of whether or not it will later be used on DVD's or replays (which it probably won't, since that would only up the price for licensing the rights to use from Metallica).

Please don't argue with me on this, Rob. You don't know what you're talking about.

[CSL]

Are you 100% sure about that? I don't know myself, I'm just going by old ECW stuff as I'm having problems imagining Heyman stumping up cash for all the songs they used

[Reavant]

I didn't say the music was helping them make money, dude.

Nobody is ordering UFC 100 because Brock Lesnar is coming out to "Enter Sandman." That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying that for UFC to use that music during a live PPV broadcast, they must first purchase the rights to do so, even if only on that one-time basis, regardless of whether or not it will later be used on DVD's or replays (which it probably won't, since that would only up the price for licensing the rights to use from Metallica).

Please don't argue with me on this, Rob. You don't know what you're talking about.

I think its a little different when it comes to entrance music.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I didn't say the music was helping them make money, dude.

Nobody is ordering UFC 100 because Brock Lesnar is coming out to "Enter Sandman." That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm saying that for UFC to use that music during a live PPV broadcast, they must first purchase the rights to do so, even if only on that one-time basis, regardless of whether or not it will later be used on DVD's or replays (which it probably won't, since that would only up the price for licensing the rights to use from Metallica).

Please don't argue with me on this, Rob. You don't know what you're talking about.

No they don't, for entrance music you do not pay a dime. Hence why ECW was able to afford doing whatever they wanted. Televised or not, entrance music is an accompaniment. No one pays to use it. The only reason WWE doesn't used licensed stuff is they don't want to pay the distribution rights for their video games, dvds, etc.