He's so sick (viewer discretion advised)

[kareru]

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn154/katanimation/2whf7tv.gif

i know you guys don't like it, but i love deathmatch wrestling
anyway wrestling's fake....right?

[Executioner]

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[DrA]

He probably was doing him a favor and giving him some sort of antibiotic to help with the bleeding and potential infections.

[kareru]

He probably was doing him a favor and giving him some sort of antibiotic to help with the bleeding and potential infections.


i dont think he worries about infections, thumbtack jack eats people FACT

[Juan]

I'd rather watch John Cena vs Batista in a 2 hour Iron Man match.

[The Pope]

according to kurt angle "It's real it's DAMN REAL!"

[Mr. JL]

That is sick.

[thecc]

It makes me sad that this already has more responses than the DGUSA thread.

[Juan]

It makes me sad that this already has more responses than the DGUSA thread.

I'm not too familiar with DG, so I'm waiting for a torrent to pop up somewhere.

[thecc]

Check the DG thread. ;)

[KayfabeMan]

Ridiculous.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm sure it's worth it when he gets paid his $20 and the 40 people in the audience are cheering.

[Dave Youell]

Why?

Seriously why?

At what point do you think, 'I know what a cool spot would be, I'll stick a hyperdermic needle through your face!'

[kareru]

Why?

Seriously why?

At what point do you think, 'I know what a cool spot would be, I'll stick a hyperdermic needle through your face!'

of course what you didnt see was that he stuck another needle through the other side of his face and then gave him a jaw breaker

[Hanso Amore]

DO these white trash idiots think they are professionals?

Fucking Yard Tards

[Chavo Classic]

of course what you didnt see was that he stuck another needle through the other side of his face and then gave him a jaw breaker

WTF? For real?

[kareru]

WTF? For real?

for real
it also has the finish on this vid, turn your speakers up and say ' ooooooohhhh fuck'

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[Anybody Thrilla]

That shit is uncomfortable to watch.

[Cool King]

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn154/katanimation/2whf7tv.gif

i know you guys don't like it, but i love deathmatch wrestling
anyway wrestling's fake....right?

I hate it when people use these assholes to prove to people that wrestling isn't fake.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

That shit is uncomfortable to watch.

Uncomfortable, and fucking stupid. I live in fear that the idiots who support this shit are breeding.

[kareru]

Uncomfortable, and fucking stupid. I live in fear that the idiots who support this shit are breeding.

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[Chavo Classic]

When wrestling stops being a sport, and becomes a freak show. I was surprised this freaked me out but it did.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Yes, different strokes... Some people like wrestling, and other people like watching idiots mutilate themselves under the guise of wrestling.

[kareru]

Yes, different strokes... Some people like wrestling, and other people like watching idiots mutilate themselves under the guise of wrestling.

they do pull off some wrestling moves, actually in that TOD they had a great scientific /high flier match, ok so they did have thumbtacks taped to their boots, but it was still a great hybrid match

[Chavo Classic]

Are we going to have another Sadistic here?

Dude, as soon as that needle goes through Jack's cheek, it's not wrestling anymore - it's a freak show with a few wrestling moves thrown in.

[kareru]

Are we going to have another Sadistic here?

Dude, as soon as that needle goes through Jack's cheek, it's not wrestling anymore - it's a freak show with a few wrestling moves thrown in.

still, its more wrestling moves than a john cena match

[Gertner]

Did they bring out the guy with the shrunken head after this? Or the woman who bites off the heads of chickens? I love hardcore wrestling as much as anybody, but this is just stupid.

[Xero]

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[kareru]

Did they bring out the guy with the shrunken head after this? Or the woman who bites off the heads of chickens? I love hardcore wrestling as much as anybody, but this is just stupid.

that was the second time i've ever winced during a deathmatch, the first one being a few mins earlier with the brain damage vs moxley match

'nah, he's not going to use that is he, moxley is going to kick him and he's going to drop th- OOOOOHHH SHIT AAAAAH FUUUUCK'

scrub to 3:50, its a loud video you have been warned

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[Chavo Classic]

still, its more wrestling moves than a john cena match

Firstly, show me the match where Cena uses a staple-gun against HHH's forehead. Secondly, these guys might use a wider variety of moves in a match than John Cena but probably not John Cena and his opponent.

There's no comparison here. We might as well set up a 'garbage wrestling' forum along side the wrestling and MMA forums because there's very little shared by the three, other than bare chests and physical contact.

[Xero]

lol, wait, Kareru is a garbage wrestling supporter?

GET HIIIIIIM!

[Anybody Thrilla]

Moxley was the HWA champion when I went to a couple shows. What's he doing there?

[kareru]

Firstly, show me the match where Cena uses a staple-gun against HHH's forehead. Secondly, these guys might use a wider variety of moves in a match than John Cena but probably not John Cena and his opponent.

There's no comparison here. We might as well set up a 'garbage wrestling' forum along side the wrestling and MMA forums because there's very little shared by the three, other than bare chests and physical contact.

staple gun? that would be cool actually

anyways they 'blade' all the time (well used to)

id rather take a staple gun over cutting my head with a razor anyday

[Anybody Thrilla]

I wouldn't 'blade' they way Moxley did there in that video. Hardly seems safe.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think I saw one powerbomb, and the rest was just weapon shots. I'd much rather see a Cena match.

[kareru]

I'd much rather see a Cena match.

i know you dont mean that, no-one wants to see a cena match not even john cena

[Chavo Classic]

I saw a suplex onto a barbwire board, and strangely no pin attempt. That's exactly what critics mean when there's no psychology in garbage matches - it's just a series of stunts or spots.

[Xero]

i know you dont mean that, no-one wants to see a cena match not even john cena

Sorry, I'd rather see a Cena match than a match comprised of nothing but gore spots that have no real meaning to the match other than "this is a cool spot, we'll put it somewhere random in the match and get a pop".

Garbage wrestling is the lowest form of wrestling. And in an industry as dirty and low as the wrestling industry, that's pretty fucking terrible.

[Xero]

For the record, I was okay with this guy until this thread. People can have different opinions, but I do not respect fans who enjoy garbage wrestling. And that's a fact, not an opinion.

[Chavo Classic]

Sometimes I wish I was a drunk redneck with a low IQ so I could go enjoy some of these shows - everyone looks like they're having a ball. They probably also shoot squirrels at night and are entertained by burning things.

[Xero]

Also, the "wrestling's fake, right" line is really pissing me off here. This isn't wrestling. If anything, it's more akin to "entertainment", the thing most deathmatch mutants will bury until the end of time.

[kareru]

blame vince for going PG

[Xero]

blame vince for going PG

Vince never did retarded shit like this. That is not relevant to this conversation at all.

[FourFifty]

i know you dont mean that, no-one wants to see a cena match not even john cena

John Cena > Any yard tard.

Hate to take Cena's side, but it's kinda like saying I'd rather play video games instead of getting my balls chopped off.

[FourFifty]

blame vince for going PG



..................What does that have to do with a bunch of doped up untrained jackasses with no respect for the industry or their bodies?

[FourFifty]

Also, the "wrestling's fake, right" line is really pissing me off here. This isn't wrestling. If anything, it's more akin to "entertainment", the thing most deathmatch mutants will bury until the end of time.

No, Xero. It's not even entertainment. It's mindless garbage that only a niche demographic cares about.

[Chavo Classic]

blame vince for going PG

FAIL! CZW and other garbage wrestling has been in existence since the turn of the decade, and even longer than that in Japan.

[Xero]

Am I the only one waiting for him to bring up ECW?

I'm just so looking forward to that train wreck of a comment.

[kareru]

..................What does that have to do with a bunch of doped up untrained jackasses with no respect for the industry or their bodies?

im rebelling, i wouldn't even like deathmatch wrestling if it wasnt for wwe going all PG

[Xero]

No, Xero. It's not even entertainment. It's mindless garbage that only a niche demographic cares about.

Good point. But it's entertainment to people with the IQ of a jar of dirt.

[Xero]

im rebelling, i wouldn't even like deathmatch wrestling if it wasnt for wwe going all PG

So watch Ring of Honor.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Or you can watch TN--....

Yeah, watch Ring of Honor.

[kareru]

So watch Ring of Honor.

i'do, i love ROH in fact i think its the best wrestling promotion today

[Xero]

So why are you "rebelling" by watching this shit? It almost sounds like you don't like it.

And to "rebel", I would have to assume you actually support the promotions and buy DVDs and whatnot instead of pirating it, right?

[Chavo Classic]

i'do, i love ROH in fact i think its the best wrestling promotion today

There is hope yet for this young man. :D

[FourFifty]

im rebelling, i wouldn't even like deathmatch wrestling if it wasnt for wwe going all PG

So go watch some old school WCCW or AWA. Watch some WRESTLING, not this deathmatch, yard tard crap. Watch some old ECW, or follow Japan. Watch RoH, or MMA. Or hey, stop watching wrestling.

Don't watch this crap.

[Gertner]

Big Japan and FMW were doing this a LONG time ago. So your excuse for Vince going PG is kinda irrelevant.

[kareru]

So why are you "rebelling" by watching this shit? It almost sounds like you don't like it.

And to "rebel", I would have to assume you actually support the promotions and buy DVDs and whatnot instead of pirating it, right?

i do like it, but i wouldn't want to watch it all the time

and do i buy the dvd's?
of course i do, i love smartmarkvideo.com

[Hanso Amore]

i'do, i love ROH in fact i think its the best wrestling promotion today

I hate you

[Xero]

i do like it, but i wouldn't want to watch it all the time

and do i buy the dvd's?
of course i do, i love smartmarkvideo.com

Just making sure.

And just by liking it you've lost all respect as a fan from me. Even the ROH comment, which I honestly believe is just a way for you to save face, won't help you now.

[kareru]

I hate you

you know im right

[kareru]

Just making sure.

And just by liking it you've lost all respect as a fan from me. Even the ROH comment, which I honestly believe is just a way for you to save face, won't help you now.

what so i cant like all aspects of the wrestling world?
scientific wrestling
high flying lucha libre
hardcore wrestling

[Anybody Thrilla]

I love how Xero says there's no 'helping' him like there will be dire consequences for anyone who doesn't get Xero's approval as a wrestling fan.

[Xero]

There's a difference between hardcore and garbage as far as I'm concerned.

Garbage has no psychology and is nothing but random spots strung together. Hardcore wrestling takes the aspects of garbage but uses them to tell a story in the match and adds to everything, instead of being the sole provider of action.

Barring something like a New Jack match, watch some ECW. Yeah, there's weapons and ridiculous spots, but they actually mean something. That's what I'm talking about, not this bullshit.

[Xero]

I love how Xero says there's no 'helping' him like there will be dire consequences for anyone who doesn't get Xero's approval as a wrestling fan.

Well, this is the "Xero is right, don't ask why" forum.

[Chavo Classic]

Well, this is the "Xero is right, don't ask why" forum.

TPWW is not a democracy!!!!

[kareru]

There's a difference between hardcore and garbage as far as I'm concerned.

Garbage has no psychology and is nothing but random spots strung together. Hardcore wrestling takes the aspects of garbage but uses them to tell a story in the match and adds to everything, instead of being the sole provider of action.

Barring something like a New Jack match, watch some ECW. Yeah, there's weapons and ridiculous spots, but they actually mean something. That's what I'm talking about, not this bullshit.

well it IS the tournament of death, i dont think anyone expects to see chain wrestling (although there is)

[Xero]

That's sort of not the point. The point is that this is not wrestling. It's yard tards blading themselves and stiffing each other for no reason other than they think it's cool - the fans and the workers.

[kareru]

That's sort of not the point. The point is that this is not wrestling. It's yard tards blading themselves and stiffing each other for no reason other than they think it's cool - the fans and the workers.

you can use that analogy for anything

a wwe main event is not wrestling its just meat heads boxing and using pop moves for no reason other than a mark think it's cool

[Xero]

Even in a Cena match, there's psychology, buddy.

[thedamndest]

My father knew some POWs that had this happen to them in Vietnam. They didn't call it entertainment though.

[owenbrown]

This is why I say FUCK CZW and I would rather watch a Cena vs. Batista vs. Great Khali vs. Big Show Ultimate Submission Fatal Four Way match than CZW

[Juan]

I'd rather watch John Cena vs Batista in a 2 hour Iron Man match.

[Chavo Classic]

you can use that analogy for anything

a wwe main event is not wrestling its just meat heads boxing and using pop moves for no reason other than a mark think it's cool

No, by defintion, the WWE is wrestling. Just because it's a poorly executed and booked wrestling match doesn't mean it's not wrestling.

For example, your local sports team are playing particularly bad and losing games due to bad strategy, team management and squad selection, it doesn't mean they're not playing the sport, it just means they're bad at it.

These garbage wrestling guys are playing a completely different game. Bringing enough weapons to give a bloodthirsty 14 year old kid erections then substituting the rules of the game and tactics with their own means it's a different game altogether.

[mike adamle]

I still think kareru is kane86.

[Triple Naitch]

That's not wrestling. That's staged acts of violence.

[Testicle]

I'd rather watch John Cena vs Batista in a 2 hour Iron Man match.

[Testicle]

Pro wrestling is an art.

What you posted is not art.

Therefore...

What you posted =/= wrestling

[Chavo Classic]

Pro wrestling is an art.

Alright, calm down. Lets not get preachy over wrestling. It's not an art, it's a form of entertainment.

[St. Jimmy]

They should do this in MMA. God MMA is amazing.

[Rammsteinmad]

Okay in all fairness Kareru is entitled to his opinion and if he enjoys watching this kinda stuff then fair play to him for coming on here and saying it.

But my personal opinion: that was some of the most pathetic stuff I've ever seen. Especially the second video.

[Seth82]

Oh my gosh I think I am gonna be sick after watching that clip

That is one of the most disgusting things ever

Shit for all the blame the old ECW used to get it was never ever near as bad as that horrible clip he posted

That isn't wrestling to me when you gotta use fucking needles and cinder blocks

ECW was tame compared to that shit

[kareru]

one might argue that pro wrestling isn't wrestling because it isn't Olympic wrestling

[USAUSA1]

To each it's own, I actually like the video. It was a legit holy shit moment. Would it of made it better if it was done in a WWE ring? Stop complaining

[Juan]

To each it's own, I actually like the video. It was a legit holy shit moment. Would it of made it better if it was done in a WWE ring? Stop complaining

You serious? You've got to be kidding me.

[mike adamle]

Doing something like this would be comparable to the Katie Vick stuff, right?

[Chavo Classic]

Doing something like this would be comparable to the Katie Vick stuff, right?

Just not the same. Katie Vick was tongue in cheek, the garbage wrestling is malicious.

[thedamndest]

I don't think doing that in any ring would be entertaining. To the defenders: how is this any better than watching a video of something like a guy getting his leg caught in a bear trap? What does it add to the match? This is a legitimate question. I'm looking to figure out what you get out of watching a "match" like this. I don't want to hear something like "blame Vince for going PG" because as has been said, there is other wrestling out there. I'm don't want to hear "to each his own" either. What is the draw in watching this type of event?

[kareru]

sadism, you wouldn't understand

art through violence

[thedamndest]

I'm trying to understand. That's why I would like you to explain it to me.

[Cool King]

sadism, you wouldn't understand

art through violence

Art through violence?

I saw a video once of a match from CZW or something where a guy stabbed another guy in the bicep/arm with a pair of scissors. He then proceeded to dig the scissors in deeper and deeper. I'm sure everyone has seen that video.

So tell me, where's the art in that?

I honestly do want to know. I'm a bit curious.

[kareru]

I'm trying to understand. That's why I would like you to explain it to me.

you know many cultures use pain as a way to get closer to the gods, youve seen the guys in Indonesia with railway spikes sticking out of there cheeks

[Dave Youell]

Art through violence?

I consider wrestling to be an art form yes.

But that wasn't wrestling, or art. It was just fucking dumb

[thedamndest]

Those guys don't look Indonesian.

What gods require you to smash lighting over your head?

[kareru]

Art through violence?

I saw a video once of a match from CZW or something where a guy stabbed another guy in the bicep/arm with a pair of scissors. He then proceeded to dig the scissors in deeper and deeper. I'm sure everyone has seen that video.

So tell me, where's the art in that?

I honestly do want to know. I'm a bit curious.

would you let a guy do that to you?

im preempting you answer as no

that guy is, and he doesn't care, its quite an amazing display of pain threshold

[Dave Youell]

you know many cultures use pain as a way to get closer to the gods, youve seen the guys in Indonesia with railway spikes sticking out of there cheeks

I have a feeling that the guys in this match were not part of Indonesian culture

[Dave Youell]

would you let a guy do that to you?

im preempting you answer as no

that guy is, and he doesn't care, its quite an amazing display of pain threshold

Which isn't art?

[kareru]

Which isn't art?

how so?

why do you think that it isnt?

[thedamndest]

So is it art or is it an attempt to be closer to the gods through pain?

[Seth82]

Christ the even scarier thing is there's actually a niche group of people who enjoy that kinda crap

Something's wrong with your brain if you can sit back and watch 2 or 3 hrs of that and actually enjoy it

Hell ECW was somewhat hardcore but even they didn't go that far

[Cool King]

would you let a guy do that to you?

im preempting you answer as no

that guy is, and he doesn't care, its quite an amazing display of pain threshold

You're right. I wouldn't let a guy do that to me. Mostly because I'm not an idiot.

And in the video I was talking about, the guy was screaming bloody murder and I don't blame him. His pain threshold was quite low. Just like anyone who would have had scissors rammed into there skin and muscles with some force.

[kareru]

So is it art or is it an attempt to be closer to the gods through pain?

bit of sadistic art

[kareru]

You're right. I wouldn't let a guy do that to me. Mostly because I'm not an idiot.

And in the video I was talking about, the guy was screaming bloody murder and I don't blame him. His pain threshold was quite low. Just like anyone who would have had scissors rammed into there skin and muscles with some force.

*punch*
sell it

*kick*
sell it

[thedamndest]

The problem with the word "art" is that you can really call anything art and nobody can tell you you're wrong.

[kareru]

The problem with the word "art" is that you can really call anything art and nobody can tell you you're wrong.

you have a point there

[Dave Youell]

*punch*
sell it

*kick*
sell it

So your saying he was selling an open wound to the arm?

Can I please have your description of what you consider to be art?

[kareru]

So your saying he was selling an open wound to the arm?

Can I please have your description of what you consider to be art?

im saying he was selling more than it hurt.

[Dave Youell]

Definition
art
noun
1 [U] the making of objects, images, music, etc. that are beautiful or that express feelings:
Can television and pop music really be considered art?
I enjoyed the ballet, but it wasn't really great art.

2 [U] the activity of painting, drawing and making sculpture:
Art and English were my best subjects at school.
an art teacher

3 [U] paintings, drawings and sculptures:
The gallery has an excellent collection of modern art.
an exhibition of Native American art
Peggy Guggenheim was one of the twentieth century's great art collectors.
The Frick is an art gallery in New York.

4 [C] an activity through which people express particular ideas:
Drama is an art that is traditionally performed in a theatre.
Do you regard film as entertainment or as an art?
She is doing a course in the performing arts.

5 [C] a skill or special ability:
the art of conversation
Getting him to go out is quite an art

--

I checked.

Nowhere does it say, putting needles into your face and then getting hit in the head with a breeze block is considered art.

And that's the Oxford Dictionary

And don't give me any of that interpretation shit over point 1

[Juan]

im saying he was selling more than it hurt.

Forgive me if I don't take your word for it.

[mike adamle]

You guys take this too seriously if you consider wrestling a form of art. It's entertainment, not art.

[Cool King]

This is the video I was talking about.

It's the first clip you see.

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I don't think he was selling that. I think that was all genuine. I don't think you can sell a scissor stab and twist to the arm.

[Dave Youell]

kareru would be selling it though, cos he's extreme

[kareru]

Definition
art
noun
1 [U] the making of objects, images, music, etc. that are beautiful or that express feelings:
Can television and pop music really be considered art?
I enjoyed the ballet, but it wasn't really great art.

2 [U] the activity of painting, drawing and making sculpture:
Art and English were my best subjects at school.
an art teacher

3 [U] paintings, drawings and sculptures:
The gallery has an excellent collection of modern art.
an exhibition of Native American art
Peggy Guggenheim was one of the twentieth century's great art collectors.
The Frick is an art gallery in New York.

4 [C] an activity through which people express particular ideas:
Drama is an art that is traditionally performed in a theatre.
Do you regard film as entertainment or as an art?
She is doing a course in the performing arts.

5 [C] a skill or special ability:
the art of conversation
Getting him to go out is quite an art

--

I checked.

Nowhere does it say, putting needles into your face and then getting hit in the head with a breeze block is considered art.

And that's the Oxford Dictionary

And don't give me any of that interpretation shit over point 1



and what art school did you go to? not a very good one if one at all i take it

[Inadequacy]

At least it's nice that everyone's talking about something.

Although I do agree this stuff is pretty stupid.

[Seth82]

That last clip with the scissors is downright disgusting

Why the fuck does anyone find that entertaining

Christ why were at it why don't we just shoot and kill a guy in the middle of the ring

I better be careful I might give some scumbag promoter an idea


And anyone who mutilates their body like that needs their head examined

[kareru]

mad man pondo, i actually believe that he likes it

[mike adamle]

None of these garbage wrestlers could withstand the pain in one Khali Chop.

[Inadequacy]

Johnny "Bloodsquirt" McGuirk vs. Joey the "low self esteem high pain threshold wonder man" KinKaid in the first ever "Revolver on a pole match"

[Dave Youell]

and what art school did you go to? not a very good one if one at all i take it

I went to no art school

I did however get a description of a word based from Cambridge University, which most probably also teaches art.

[kareru]

Johnny "Bloodsquirt" McGuirk vs. Joey the "low self esteem high pain threshold wonder man" KinKaid in the first ever "Revolver on a pole match"

if russo booked hardcore wrestling

[mike adamle]

Johnny "Bloodsquirt" McGuirk vs. Joey the "low self esteem high pain threshold wonder man" KinKaid in the first ever "Revolver on a pole match"

That could be an Adamle original.

[Inadequacy]

I'd actually love for someone to wrestle under the name of "Bloodsquirt" McGuirk.

It would certainly put this ass in seats.

[Anybody Thrilla]

John McGuirk is a youth soccer coach.

[kareru]

John McGuirk is a youth soccer coach.

an extreme one?

[Inadequacy]

Does he have a high pain threshold he'd like to show off in the name of art?

[Testicle]

Art through violence?

I consider wrestling to be an art form yes.

But that wasn't wrestling, or art. It was just fucking dumb

[Testicle]

*punch*
sell it

*kick*
sell it

What is there to sell when you get a pair of scissors in your arm?

[Testicle]

I want to hear Destor on this.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

If it's art through violence, would this be something done by Jackson Pollack?


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[Rammsteinmad]

I like how the video says "Wrestlings fake?", yet when the guy is being sliced open with scissors he takes it like a bitch. Didn't he think to fight back with his spare hand?

Anyways, they're all fucking idiots for doing this to their bodies. Fair play to them if they enjoy it (God forbid), just don't expect sympathy when things go wrong.

[Rammsteinmad]

Also, going back to the second video posted when the guy used that auto-knife thingy, I love how he cuts his opponent twice, then loses via a rollup. You'd have thought if you're man enough to do that to someone, you should at least let them do it back to you.... in the name of art. :shifty:

[Xero]

I stopped caring about this thread when he related wrestling to religion and sadism.

Speaking of which, I need to get on that religion thing...

[muffalufagus]

Also, going back to the second video posted when the guy used that auto-knife thingy, I love how he cuts his opponent twice, then loses via a rollup. You'd have thought if you're man enough to do that to someone, you should at least let them do it back to you.... in the name of art. :shifty:

I couldn't agree more.

[thecc]

It makes me sad that this already has more responses than the DGUSA thread.I even added matches.

[FourFifty]

To each it's own, I actually like the video. It was a legit holy shit moment. Would it of made it better if it was done in a WWE ring? Stop complaining

...........fuckin' idiot.

[kareru]

and just when you think its gone too far

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although his promo after this match is the funniest i have ever seen

[Seth82]

Oh My Gosh

I think I just might throw up

He drank his own fucking blood

How the fuck can people sit and watch that shit for 2 hrs let alone buy a fucking ticket for that

You all must be sick in the head


That song they put the clip to was atrocious

[kareru]

Oh My Gosh

I think I just might throw up

He drank his own fucking blood

How the fuck can people sit and watch that shit for 2 hrs let alone buy a fucking ticket for that

You all must be sick in the head


That song they put the clip to was atrocious


more than that he wrestles death matches IN HIS PANTS

[Testicle]

Kareru, so just the fact that he can endure pain is apealling enough for you to watch that?

If that is the case, maybe wrestling isn't for you?

[Seth82]

The thing is tho I can handle watching old FMW footage but this well this stuff is more violent at times it seems

I just think you are setting yourself up for all kinds of problems as you get older if you partake in that kinda crap every week

[Seth82]

ECW was violent at times but never that bad and at least the violence told a story

all I see on those clips is someone mutilating another wrestler with a fucking pair of scissors

[kareru]

Kareru, so just the fact that he can endure pain is apealling enough for you to watch that?

If that is the case, maybe wrestling isn't for you?

and what is?

[kareru]

ECW was violent at times but never that bad and at least the violence told a story

all I see on those clips is someone mutilating another wrestler with a fucking pair of scissors

what are you on about it tells a story

[Seth82]

what are you on about it tells a story

I mean CZW all I see is people slicing and dicing each other and self mutilation

ECW told a story with the violence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBypqkqMLE

Check out the YT clip

[thedamndest]

What is the story of cutting someone with scissors?

[Vastardikai]

You know, John Zandig, Ian Rotten, and all the other promoters of Death matches are really sick bastards.

The Taipei Death Match was only done once in ECW, after the results of it, I think most know why.

ECW, while known for its brutality, also had damned good wrestlers like Raven, Terry Funk, Taz, Malenko, Eddie, some guy I made up, Jericho, etc.

I'm sorry, but most of these Deathmatch guys are gonna be, at best, fucked up beyond all repair by the time they're 30 (A line Flair said to Foley, but more apt in this case.)

I mean, their ICON is working at a Blockbuster video, because he's too fucked up to get a real job after this stupid shit.

[kareru]

there is also a moral

don't play with scissors

[kareru]

You know, John Zandig, Ian Rotten, and all the other promoters of Death matches are really sick bastards.

The Taipei Death Match was only done once in ECW, after the results of it, I think most know why.

ECW, while known for its brutality, also had damned good wrestlers like Raven, Terry Funk, Taz, Malenko, Eddie, some guy I made up, Jericho, etc.

I'm sorry, but most of these Deathmatch guys are gonna be, at best, fucked up beyond all repair by the time they're 30 (A line Flair said to Foley, but more apt in this case.)

I mean, their ICON is working at a Blockbuster video, because he's too fucked up to get a real job after this stupid shit.


some of these death match wrestlers are really good wrestlers too, ok granted that most of them dont know a dragon screw leg whip from a Philips head screw driver, but still they do

[Dave Youell]

some of these death match wrestlers are really good wrestlers too, ok granted that most of them dont know a dragon screw leg whip from a Philips head screw driver, but still they do

That sentance made no sense, either they do know the difference or they don't

And I dissagree with the 'They are good wrestlers' theory.

PLEASE give me some examples?

I am aware of people who have wrestled in these garbage feds, who I think have talent, but they don't do the ultra violent stuff.

The only man I find mildly amusing is Necro Butcher, that's mostly because of his performance in The Wrestler though.

[thecc]

Drake Younger is pretty good. I really wish he would take the necro route and go away from death matches.

[Vastardikai]

some of these death match wrestlers are really good wrestlers too, ok granted that most of them dont know a dragon screw leg whip from a Philips head screw driver, but still they do

But it's the likes of Zandig and Rotten who exploit the dumbshits who just want to get into the business that pisses me off.

These guys, instead of being taught the basics, are taught "Swinging Lighttubes 101." And the sad thing for them is, they'll be mangled by the time their 30, and no one will give a shit.

Necro is getting away from the death matches for one reasons: He's not that stupid. He realizes the lack of a future in it, and decided he wanted to work.

The ones that cannot work have no business being in the ring. The ones that can shouldn't be retarded enough to do this shit.

Wait until the first guy actually dies in a deathmatch. It almost happened this year. It'll make the Benoit situation coverage look like a one-time viewing of Jesus Christ Superstar.

[Chavo Classic]

Someone is going to get shot.

I don't mean that Zandig is going to pull out a revolver and shoot Sexxxy Eddie or whoever in the head, but if the current trend is to use weedwhackers, syringes and (judging by the video on page 1) a DIY jigaw in "innovative' ways then I can't see the difference between that and one of these guys holding down their opponent and shooting them in their hand or foot. It's the natural progression and will end horribly; just like little kids who start playing rough games, end up in a fight and breaking their mum's vase.

An authority needs to step in and lay down regulations on what these guys can and can't do, not so to indulge their own sense of superiority but to ensure that these guys don't seriously maim each other and more importantly - the audience, as it's not CZW, or Zandig, or Douchebag with a syringe who will suffer, it will be Vince McMahon and the average wrestling fan. The media will jump on the serious injury of a athlete or patron at one of these backyard shows where amateurs are imitating their mainstream heroes and the heat will fall square on the lap of Vince.

Will Pepsi or Snickers want to sponsor a sport where people get shot for entertainment? No-one gets shot in football or basketball! You can say goodbye to your line of kids merchandise too Vince, because the PTC will lobby every authority in the country to ensure that Jimmy isn't wearing a HHH shirt. As for your television contracts?

[Dave Youell]

Someone is going to get shot.

I don't mean that Zandig is going to pull out a revolver and shoot Sexxxy Eddie or whoever in the head, but if the current trend is to use weedwhackers, syringes and (judging by the video on page 1) a DIY jigaw in "innovative' ways then I can't see the difference between that and one of these guys holding down their opponent and shooting them in their hand or foot. It's the natural progression and will end horribly; just like little kids who start playing rough games, end up in a fight and breaking their mum's vase.

An authority needs to step in and lay down regulations on what these guys can and can't do, not so to indulge their own sense of superiority but to ensure that these guys don't seriously maim each other and more importantly - the audience, as it's not CZW, or Zandig, or Douchebag with a syringe who will suffer, it will be Vince McMahon and the average wrestling fan. The media will jump on the serious injury of a athlete or patron at one of these backyard shows where amateurs are imitating their mainstream heroes and the heat will fall square on the lap of Vince.

Will Pepsi or Snickers want to sponsor a sport where people get shot for entertainment? No-one gets shot in football or basketball! You can say goodbye to your line of kids merchandise too Vince, because the PTC will lobby every authority in the country to ensure that Jimmy isn't wearing a HHH shirt. As for your television contracts?


Dude!

Delete your post! I swear that will happen soon, and I'll blame you for putting that idea on the internet!

If memory serves, wasn't there some athletic state commission that was really cracking down on CZW a few years back, they even got a few shows cancelled. Not sure how or why that stopped.

I know they did that show in some guys house recently when that guy had body parts hanging out of himself, how they are still able to operate as a company is mind boggiling, really it is.

[USAUSA1]

...........fuckin' idiot.

Explain???????

Tell me how you view my comments to come to that conclusion.

[Blitz]

you know many cultures use pain as a way to get closer to the gods, youve seen the guys in Indonesia with railway spikes sticking out of there cheeks
Ahahahahahahahahaha yeah I'm sure that's CZW's whole raison d'être.

[Dave Youell]

Explain???????

Tell me how you view my comments to come to that conclusion.

It's his opinion that you are an idiot, you have no right to question his opinion

(based on your post count)

[NoRoolz]

How is that shit even legal?

I'm not even gonna say 'Everyone has a right to their opinion', cos it's NOT alrigt to like this shit at all. It's mutilation, self-harm, and just fuckin' sick, probably enjoyed by the same people who watched the Iraqi head-chopping off and think animal torture is funny. If you just love gore and stuff that makes you wince (which is kinda weird anyway) go and watch Saw or something.

Also, this has fuck all to do with wrestling and is one step down from a boff movie.

[thecc]

Dude!

Delete your post! I swear that will happen soon, and I'll blame you for putting that idea on the internet!

If memory serves, wasn't there some athletic state commission that was really cracking down on CZW a few years back, they even got a few shows cancelled. Not sure how or why that stopped.

I know they did that show in some guys house recently when that guy had body parts hanging out of himself, how they are still able to operate as a company is mind boggiling, really it is.The PA state athletic commission is pretty strict. In the arena they can't use lighttubes and all the glass they ise is the same shit as that stunt glass used for movies. To be honest it's much better that way and I really hate when they even leave the arena for tournament of death.

[kareru]

That sentance made no sense, either they do know the difference or they don't

And I dissagree with the 'They are good wrestlers' theory.

PLEASE give me some examples?

I am aware of people who have wrestled in these garbage feds, who I think have talent, but they don't do the ultra violent stuff.

The only man I find mildly amusing is Necro Butcher, that's mostly because of his performance in The Wrestler though.

what part of it didn't make sense?
some of them are great wrestlers and are trained very very well
and some of them arn't

[Xero]

Your wording.

GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS!

[USAUSA1]

Was it entertaining? No

Was it stupid? yes

Was it a HOLY crap/WTF moment? YES,it actually live up to the subject title unlike 90% of most wrestling posts.

Would it make it better if it was in a WWE ring? You answer this question

[Lock Jaw]

Why would it make it better?

[Xero]

Actually, it would make it worse, because I would lose even more respect for the WWE.

[thedamndest]

I'm not sure what the point of it being in a WWE ring would be and how that would make it better or worse. It's a terrible spot (if we can even call it that) and it shouldn't be done in front of 5 people or 50,000 people.

[Lock Jaw]

50,003?

[NoRoolz]

[QUOTE=USAUSA1;2651485]Was it entertaining? No

Was it stupid? Yes

Was it a HOLY crap/WTF moment? Yes, but so would eating a kitten or volleying a baby. Whilst it's not quite on the same level, it's still a 'WTF' moment for the wrong reasons.

Would it make it better if it was in a WWE ring? No, not at all. I understand what you're trying to say, but I think needle jaw-breakers, cinder blocks and scissor stabs would have the same effect in any ring. If anything it'd be worse in a WWE ring.

QUOTE]

[NoRoolz]

Dunno why the quote thing went like that but cba fixing it.

[kareru]

i'd love to see it in a wwe ring
watch all the kiddies at ringside crying
and watching all the marks puking up

admit it, it would be quite funny

[Inadequacy]

Was it entertaining? No

Was it stupid? yes

Was it a HOLY crap/WTF moment? YES,it actually live up to the subject title unlike 90% of most wrestling posts.

Would it make it better if it was in a WWE ring? You answer this question

It's not that we don't like it because it's not WWE, we don't like it because it's disgusting.

[Dave Youell]

i'd love to see it in a wwe ring
watch all the kiddies at ringside crying
and watching all the marks puking up

admit it, it would be quite funny

Can I ask a question.

What attracts you to this shit? Seriously, what part of any of these snuff video's makes you mark out and want to see more?

[TheHaunted]

I really hate deathmatches and all that crap..
It's not fun to watch.

[mike adamle]

Your wording.

GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS!

My thoughts exactly.

[Dave Youell]

In an ironic twist, here's Maffew's latest botchmania, from 4 minutes on, it's dedicated to CZW, 6 mins of botches, from 1 single show:

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[Vastardikai]

You know, watching Botchamania, I realized that the stupid, retarded, pointless, unneccessary weapon shots are the SAFEST things these guys are doing to each other.

[USAUSA1]

I really could care less either way, am not a wrestler and I don't take wrestling seriously.

Deathmatches can be extremely fun when done right, Big Japan in recent years put on some great deathmatches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfixXEC-6wo Sasaki (c) vs Miyamoto Scaffolding Death Match is still one of the best top 20 matches I've seen this decade.

[kareru]

its actually safer that actual wrestling i mean it takes a matter of days for a scar to heal, but a broken bone or torn muscle takes months maybe years if it heals at all.

now who is the sadist eh?


pain is temporary
wounds heal
chicks dig scars

[AJHayes]

I truly hope you never breed Kareru.

[kareru]

I truly hope you never breed Kareru.

because the human race would die out because my offspring will be so powerful

[Chavo Classic]

its actually safer that actual wrestling i mean it takes a matter of days for a scar to heal, but a broken bone or torn muscle takes months maybe years if it heals at all.

now who is the sadist eh?


pain is temporary
wounds heal
chicks dig scars

I think you missed the point. Weapon shots are safer with these guys because they're creating very dangerous moves and executing them with very little skill or care.

I have no problem with your opinion. You can like this form of entertainment all you want, but I'm still curious why you like it.

[kareru]

I think you missed the point. Weapon shots are safer with these guys because they're creating very dangerous moves and executing them with very little skill or care.

I have no problem with your opinion. You can like this form of entertainment all you want, but I'm still curious why you like it.

please, most of them have better wrestling training than many of the wwe 'superstars'

its the same reason people like jackass, morbid fascination

[AJHayes]

I think that a show like this is like watching a retard try to hump a doorknob.

[Chavo Classic]

please, most of them have better wrestling training than many of the wwe 'superstars'

I'm not saying they aren't trained, but to suggest that they are better trained than WWE talent is just ignorant. Just because Cena or Batista don't chain wrestle on tv doesn't mean they can't. The best example of this is Burchill. The guy is super-talented, is technical and can fly - but because he doesn't when he's on ECW people assume that he's hopeless.

Take a look at OVW if you need an example of how anyone who has been nurtured by the WWE is more than competent in their field. It's clearly obvious that these guys are good at what they do, it's one of the reasons they're at the top of the business and wrestling infront 5,000 people and not 50.

Yes, some of the guys go onto better things and can make a career out of it. But it's just logical to assume that they aren't as skilled as someone in the WWE who's life, and not just career, is about pro-wrestling.
its the same reason people like jackass, morbid fascination

The two aren't comparable. The only Jackass here is the one trying to draw the parallels.

[kareru]

the reason john cena and batista are main eventers in the wwe is because they have big muscles, a character and basic wrestling knowledge.

its the same reason why the great khali is in the wwe, he is only there because he is really tall and has basic wrestling knowledge

[Chavo Classic]

I cannot argue with you about Khali, and yes, Cena and Batista are at the top of the WWE because of their size and maybe even politics, but have you even watched Cena when he was 'the Prototype' in OVW? I think you should do some research of your own before you make such judgements.

[AJHayes]

You cannot talk to Kareru and expect it to understand it at the level of a normal human.

You have to speak slowly and in small words to a subhuman like it.

[kareru]

You cannot talk to Kareru and expect it to understand it at the level of a normal human.

You have to speak slowly and in small words to a subhuman like it.

quiet you, if i wanted a retards opinion i would pick a smarter one than you

[kareru]

I cannot argue with you about Khali, and yes, Cena and Batista are at the top of the WWE because of their size and maybe even politics, but have you even watched Cena when he was 'the Prototype' in OVW? I think you should do some research of your own before you make such judgements.

you're right i never saw him on ovw, so if he can wrestle then why doesn't he?

[Chavo Classic]

you're right i never saw him on ovw, so if he can wrestle then why doesn't he?

I don't know - that's just the way it is. The WWE has always been more about the entertainment than the wrestling. Cena chain wrestling for twenty minutes with HHH isn't going to win over casual fans (that's what we have ROH for) but a bunch of spots, an Attitude Adjuster and yelling "You can't see me" to the crowd is.

I thought even you could see that.

[Vastardikai]

the reason john cena and batista are main eventers in the wwe is because they have big muscles, a character and basic wrestling knowledge.

its the same reason why the great khali is in the wwe, he is only there because he is really tall and has basic wrestling knowledge

sadly, that "basic wrestling knowledge" is lightyears ahead of these idiots.

[IC Champion]

you're right i never saw him on ovw, so if he can wrestle then why doesn't he?

I have a hard time listening to you bash any WWE talent, even Cena when you blindly defend spotfest wrestling. You obviously know little to nothing about what actual wrestling involves and what makes it entertaining. Shit like this is whats bad for the wrestling business, and personally I think the business would be better with out it at all and it's "wrestling" fans.

It's why CZW has been in business for almost 10 years and still is lucky to draw a crowd of 500 on a good night.

CZW and it's fans are a joke.

[Chavo Classic]

I hate it too man. One of the reasons being that I take the position of defending John Cena and the use of John Cena on television, and no man should be forced to have to do that.

[Inadequacy]

quiet you, if i wanted a retards opinion i would pick a smarter one than you

OH SNAP!

[Chavo Classic]

If he wanted a retard's opinion, wouldn't it be best to pick the opinions of the dumbest one?

Myself, I'm looking for a genius' opinion but I would pick a stupider one than Stephen Hawking

[Inadequacy]

Well good thing Kareru's here, you could pick his brain.

[Chavo Classic]

Well good thing Kareru's here, you could pick his brain.

I wouldn't so much as pick his brain as I would douse it in petrol and strike a match next to it.

[Inadequacy]

And AND, hear me out here, put it on a DVD and send it into Ian Rotten as an audition tape for the IWA.

You could be Chavo "Chainsaw Charlie" Classic the third.

[kareru]

If he wanted a retard's opinion, wouldn't it be best to pick the opinions of the dumbest one?

Myself, I'm looking for a genius' opinion but I would pick a stupider one than Stephen Hawking

if you want a retards opinion you pick a dumb one, not the dumbest one, you at least need a coherent answer

[kareru]

also, do you guys think that czw and deathmatch wrestlers only wrestle deathmatches?

[AJHayes]

You can't call that shit wrestling. So, we should come up with an appropriate name for it. How about shitfest?

And, as far as CZW and Deathmatch guys only doing deathmatches? It depends on the person, if they have some talent, they might be able to put on a wrestling match, but, if they're like most of the CZW roster, they stick to shitfests.

I'm pretty sure that you're Sadistic. :) Welcome back.

[kareru]

You can't call that shit wrestling. So, we should come up with an appropriate name for it. How about shitfest?

And, as far as CZW and Deathmatch guys only doing deathmatches? It depends on the person, if they have some talent, they might be able to put on a wrestling match, but, if they're like most of the CZW roster, they stick to shitfests.

I'm pretty sure that you're Sadistic. :) Welcome back.

im a little bit sadistic

czw have TOD and COD and they are annual events so they dont do death matches ALL the time

they also do

Best of the Best tournament which emphasizes athleticism and many wrestler which are know for deathmatches get to show that they can actually wrestle

[Chavo Classic]

also, do you guys think that czw and deathmatch wrestlers only wrestle deathmatches?

I pray to god that they do.

[kareru]

I pray to god that they do.

well they don't, so there

[Chavo Classic]

Can we put an end to this thread now?

We didn't come to an agreement when we had that other retard, Sadistic, arguing the case of garbage wrestling and we aren't going to this time either. At least Sadistic's whining and moaning was entertaining; Kareru is too far up his own arse with his opinions for anything humourous to come out of this.

[Xero]

This thread is now about the Late Fees Ninja, Nick Mondo.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/sandman3g/Wrestling/mcdonalds.jpg

[kareru]

Kareru makes some good points and has his own opinions so nothing humourous to come out of this.


fix'd

[Chavo Classic]

Thanks for doing the work for me and proving my point.

NEXT THREAD!

[Xero]

Shut the fuck up guys, this thread is about NICK MONDO!

[Chavo Classic]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/129092251_e2ee591691.jpg?v=0

MONDO-SMASH!

[kareru]

Shut the fuck up guys, this thread is about NICK MONDO!

http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/storiadellestipulazioni/deathmatchhistory/Nick%20Mondo.JPG

i'll see if i can find the vid where he gets thrown off a roof

[Chavo Classic]

i'll see if i can find the vid where he gets thrown off a roof

We've all seen it. Sadistic was here with that shit long before you.

You might as well change your name to Sadistic 2 right now

[kareru]

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[Chavo Classic]

What idiot decides to fall from a building in the middle of a match?

PSYCHOLOGY 101!

[Xero]

REAL WRESTLING!11!!!1!!

[Chavo Classic]

...and of course, the classic

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/n/nickmondo/07.jpg

[Xero]

How is that not the fucking finish? Honestly?

[Sixx]

http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/storiadellestipulazioni/deathmatchhistory/Nick%20Mondo.JPG

i'll see if i can find the vid where he gets thrown off a roof

Where is he bleeding from?

[Chavo Classic]

Where is he bleeding from?

It's fake blood. What a sell-out

[kareru]

Where is he bleeding from?

his penis it look like, i think he should get it checked by a medical professional

[kareru]

did anyone notice the guy wearing safety goggles ? lol

[Xero]

Did anyone notice the terrible wrestler in that picture? lol

[kareru]

Did anyone notice the terrible wrestler in that picture? lol

the guy in the green lantern t-shirt?

yeah i saw him in fwa years ago, he was pretty dire

[Chavo Classic]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427992/

I've seen a little bit of this documentary/shoot interview. Mondo does come across as a decent guy who just likes doing what he likes, namely 'garbage wrestling'.

What is also evident is how naive he is. I felt bad for him, because it appears that he sacraficed his well-being and health for no reason other than the approval of mindless fans and the idiots who operate CZW.

[The Jayman]

did anyone notice the 2 guys in the back scratching their heads like "what the fuck just happened?"

[Chavo Classic]

did anyone notice the 2 guys in the back scratching their heads like "what the fuck just happened?"

"We drove 300 miles for this!?"

[AJHayes]

Did anyone notice the terrible wrestler in that picture? lol

I don't see a wrestler in that picture.

[Dave Youell]

im a little bit sadistic

czw have TOD and COD and they are annual events so they dont do death matches ALL the time

they also do

Best of the Best tournament which emphasizes athleticism and many wrestler which are know for deathmatches get to show that they can actually wrestle
Now I will agree that the best of the best was a good idea, when they had talented guys on it.

[kareru]

What idiot decides to fall from a building in the middle of a match?

PSYCHOLOGY 101!

actually it was, because it was a 2 out of 3 lightube log cabin match and mondo had already been put through a lightube log cabin and when that happened all of the crowd thought that the match was over but then a ring official got on the mic and said that it was zandig that went through first and the match will continue
*big crowd pop*
commentators were saying how can they continue after a fall like that.

[kareru]

Now I will agree that the best of the best was a good idea, when they had talented guys on it.

they still have a few

Scotty Vortekz
Sabian
Egotistico Fantastico
xOMGx
Ruckus
Drake younger

shame those guys don't get the credit that they deserve

[AJHayes]

actually it was, because it was a 2 out of 3 lightube log cabin match and mondo had already been put through a lightube log cabin and when that happened all of the crowd thought that the match was over but then a ring official got on the mic and said that it was zandig that went through first and the match will continue
*big crowd pop*
commentators were saying how can they continue after a fall like that.

And that makes it ok. :nono:

[kareru]

And that makes it ok. :nono:

makes it ok for what?

[AJHayes]

makes it ok for what?

Try to follow, you fucktard.

The announcers saying "How can they continue after that?" makes it ok for them to completely ignore basic match psychology.

What you did with the quote was real cute too. You are a brutal disappointment to your parents.

[kareru]

Try to follow, you fucktard.

The announcers saying "How can they continue after that?" makes it ok for them to completely ignore basic match psychology.

What you did with the quote was real cute too. You are a brutal disappointment to your parents.

the fans think the match is over
but its not over

simple, even you can understand that

[thecc]

Now I will agree that the best of the best was a good idea, when they had talented guys on it.Yeah, best of the best hasn't been worth shit since 2005.

[thedamndest]

If CZW has guys that can actually wrestle, why don't they try to take steps in becoming more of a legitimate organization by eliminating things like guys jumping off of buildings through light tubes? That will only ever appeal to a niche audience. If they don't eliminate it entirely they could at least try to make themselves respectable by having actual matches, or making people understand that they do. You've said that they do have actual matches every now and again, but every time someone in CZW swings a light tube it only increases furthers their reputation as THAT organazation that nobody really takes seriously.

[Dave Youell]

Yeah, best of the best hasn't been worth shit since 2005.

:y:

[kareru]

If CZW has guys that can actually wrestle, why don't they try to take steps in becoming more of a legitimate organization by eliminating things like guys jumping off of buildings through light tubes? That will only ever appeal to a niche audience. If they don't eliminate it entirely they could at least try to make themselves respectable by having actual matches, or making people understand that they do. You've said that they do have actual matches every now and again, but every time someone in CZW swings a light tube it only increases furthers their reputation as THAT organazation that nobody really takes seriously.

they do have actual matches, the truth is that they only do about 3 death matches per year.

[thedamndest]

When the only clips people are making threads about involve hypodermic needles, scissors, light tubes, and a fall off a building then your company is not headed in the right direction.

[kareru]

When the only clips people are making threads about involve hypodermic needles, scissors, light tubes, and a fall off a building then your company is not headed in the right direction.

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ok, here is a change of pace, the aerial assault match highlights from 2009 total havoc

[IC Champion]

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ok, here is a change of pace, the aerial assault match highlights from 2009 total havoc

That is just a spot fest, not wrestling.

[kareru]

That is just a spot fest, not wrestling.

well it is a highlight video after all,
and if this match happened in the wwe you would think it was the greatest wrestling match ever and don't even try and deny it

[thedamndest]

Why is there a giant box in the one corner?

[kareru]

Why is there a giant box in the one corner?

it's a kicker box special for the aerial assault match so the wrestlers can get a bit more height

[thedamndest]

Why would you assume we would love this match if it happened in a WWE ring?

[Xero]

I guess because he likes it.

[kareru]

Why would you assume we would love this match if it happened in a WWE ring?

bias against any 'deathmatch' wrestlers and the companies that showcase them

[Xero]

Your logic is flawed. If we hated any deathmatch wrestlers we'd automatically hate that match, no matter the promotion.

[kareru]

Your logic is flawed. If we hated any deathmatch wrestlers we'd automatically hate that match, no matter the promotion.

so no matter how good a match is, if its the greatest match in history if all the wrestlers involved are known as death match wrestlers you would automatically hate it?

[Xero]

That is not the greatest match in history.

And I'm using your own logic, buddy.

[kareru]

That is not the greatest match in history.

And I'm using your own logic, buddy.

forget that match, its a hypothetical question

[Xero]

I would not automatically hate it, but they couldn't rely on the deathmatch shit.