View Full Version : I like where they are going with Matt Hardy
Favre4Ever
06-06-2010, 01:24 PM
LOL orbital bone
Kane Knight
06-06-2010, 03:31 PM
1.to utter a succession of small, tremulous sounds, as a bird.
2.to talk lightly and rapidly, esp. of trivial matters; chatter.
3.to titter; giggle.
4.to tremble with excitement or the like; be in a flutter.
The Jayman
06-06-2010, 04:20 PM
is this Matt Hardy v2?
Kane Knight
06-06-2010, 05:13 PM
is this Matt Hardy v2?
Technically, it's Matt Hardy XTML.
Nicky Fives
06-06-2010, 05:38 PM
I couldn't care less about this piece of shit.....
BillyBonez
06-06-2010, 07:42 PM
Fat hardy should loose some weight and join his brother in TNA because he done everything in WWE and never gets over. In TNA they would be mega over and can feud with the Motor City Guns which would be CLASSIC.Also we can get NWO vs Hardyz which is a dream match!
Kane Knight
06-06-2010, 09:19 PM
LOL. NWO v Hardy Boyz a dream match?
Anybody Thrilla
06-06-2010, 09:25 PM
That's not wise, Mr. Bonez.
he was at the smackdown world tour tonight
Exyle
06-07-2010, 01:46 AM
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Creepy / suicide note feel to this.
TheAdamEvansFan
06-07-2010, 09:32 AM
Matt Hardy was at it again on Twitter last night/this morning. Some of his more entertaining statements:
TURN ON SMACKDOWN NOW!! DON’T MISS IT.. Matthew Moore Hardy is about to be reborn in the WWE.
In response to someone asking if he was trying to get fired to go to TNA: I’ve been underutilized.. I don’t “need” the WWE, I have nothing to lose
In response to someone saying he had been ignored for too long: But I WILL NOT be ignored anymore-bet on it!
In response to someone asking if he prefers fans that “play along”: Deal is-there’s more reality than not on the stuff I’m saying & doing now on TV. Something has to change-either the WWE or me.
In response to a tweet saying “STFU you suck and your only claim to fame is being carried through the tag division by your junkie brother”: U would love to have my life-but u never will. U obviously care enough to read all my tweets but I’ll stop that-BLOCKED! HAHA!
In response to a suggestion that WWE using Drew McIntyre to get rid of him: Maybe so-but I’ve got a Twist Of Fate for VKM!
And to finish: It’s all of your support that keeps me ticking.. Thanks much. SD is in St. Louis tomorrow-let’s see what plane tickets are going 4 tonight.
Note from Ryan Clark: This guy acts like he’s 10 years old. Enough said.
*Nobody cares what Ryan Clark has to say
I've been reading articles on this site for over 10 years.
Ryan Clark is pissing me off with his swearing, and objective/biased reporting.
What happened to actually legit reporting of issues in the wrestling business without plugging in your personal objections.
STFU Ryan Clark! YOUR SO VAIN YOU PROLLY THINK THIS POST IS ABOUT YOUUU
Blakeamus
06-07-2010, 07:29 PM
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Creepy / suicide note feel to this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt he rip off Jimmy Jacobs vid (for EVOLVE) with the beginning of that video?
tjmidnight420
06-08-2010, 12:27 AM
I've been reading articles on this site for over 10 years.
Ryan Clark is pissing me off with his swearing, and objective/biased reporting.
What happened to actually legit reporting of issues in the wrestling business without plugging in your personal objections.
STFU Ryan Clark! YOUR SO VAIN YOU PROLLY THINK THIS POST IS ABOUT YOUUU
Why are you bitching about yourself moron?
BillyBonez
06-10-2010, 02:39 PM
LOL. NWO v Hardy Boyz a dream match?
2 of the greatest tag teams of all the time? I say YES PLEASE. But I see what u gettin at, yeah, so NWO isnt in they prime, but who cares, its still worth it just for the names
Afterlife
09-18-2010, 01:40 AM
Fuck it.
When Matt went crazy-jealous heel over Jeff's success, I was pumped. He started wearing new attire -- tights, even -- and drastically shifted his appearance. He was whining and bitching and it was fantastic. I thought, "this is it! He's finally on a new track, and he could really get somewhere!"
But he didn't. His brother was leaving, so WWE turned him face...for basically no reason. Now the new attire is gone, the new attitude is gone, the hair is longer and scragglier and his weight is a fucking joke. All interest he had created and all support he had garnered from me...is gone.
I no longer care if he ever gets to the main event. I don't even want him to reach any new heights. Fuck him. He's nothing but fucking talk, and any hope I had for him has slowly but certainly morphed into resentment. That's right: I resent Matt Hardy. He's not putting in any real effort, he's pandering to the fans he has left, and he's taking up a spot that could go to someone else. And I don't even care who, it's just a spot that ANYone who is actually willing to put forth effort could use.
When I first started watching WWF, I hated Rock and Austin. But they grew on me, and now I rather enjoy both of them. I've had that happen a few times, now. But never, never have I had someone completely ruin themselves for me. And now I simply must say, after watching Matt Hardy complain about life on a vlog -- and then seeing Paul London make fun of said vlog -- I've turned on Matt Hardy.
So, yeah. Fuck him.
Mr. Nerfect
09-18-2010, 01:49 AM
I've soured a lot on Hardy, too. I've tried to cut the guy a lot of slack, because he is talented, but the dude surely has some power in his hands to really re-invent himself properly. I'm sure the WWE loves him working as a face in his crazy pants -- but if he went back to tights and cut his hair, that alone would change so much about him. He's reminding me of bitter Hardcore Holly now, and I don't like it.
Afterlife
09-18-2010, 01:53 AM
Very good comparison. I used to be o.k. with Holly, as well, but the worse he got, the more disgusted I became.
I've tried so hard to support Matt, but I'm burned out. I can barely stand to watch the guy anymore.
Mr. Nerfect
09-18-2010, 01:57 AM
Hardcore Holly was never untalented, and he did have a good connection to crowds. He was just a dick. Matt is turning out to be a dick like that, and the world's biggest mark for himself. Yes, the WWE has dropped the ball in the past with him, but when you have guys working their asses off to really improve their game and earn their pushes (the Nexus guys, Sheamus, The Miz, Kofi Kingston, Drew McIntyre and even guys in smaller roles like Zack Ryder and Primo), for a guy to stand around getting fatter and dirtier and want a push -- it makes no sense to me.
Not that appearances should be the end-all of wrestling, but if Matt took a little more pride in himself (well, he seems pretty proud of himself, actually -- if he were a little more vigilant in his presentation), he'd be relevant again. It's a fucking shame the guy can't seem to get over himself. The guy can't even get a proper go on SmackDown!, where the head booker fucking loves him.
Always prefered Jeff, tbh.
Mr. Nerfect
09-18-2010, 02:19 AM
Don't really like Jeff, either. Always preferred Matt as the talent, but Jeff has definitely been the bigger success (although I think that option was there for Matt, once upon a time).
Fignuts
09-18-2010, 02:37 AM
IT'S MATT FUCKING HARDY! WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ANYMORE?
FUCK
teamXtremist
09-18-2010, 02:54 AM
matt has had shots to get over but never pushes past midcard and now jesus your a professional atleast be in shape and take pride in your appearance the guy looks like he forgot what a work out was .
its pretty obvious he just wants to be fired now so he can run to tna for any last gasp of a world championship
jskinnyg
09-18-2010, 03:38 AM
I've soured a lot on Hardy, too. I've tried to cut the guy a lot of slack, because he is talented, but the dude surely has some power in his hands to really re-invent himself properly. I'm sure the WWE loves him working as a face in his crazy pants -- but if he went back to tights and cut his hair, that alone would change so much about him. He's reminding me of bitter Hardcore Holly now, and I don't like it.
Yup Noid...
Waylander
09-18-2010, 04:09 AM
I've resented Matt for a long time because despite all the hype, most his own creation I might add, he's as boring as hell and I just don't care. Now, to add fuel to the fire, he's whining like a child because he's not getting the applause he thinks he deserves for the work he hasn't done properly.
Domino
09-18-2010, 04:10 AM
I was gonna start a thread about it, but I figured we had enough about Matt. Either way, this is retarded and he needs to get the boot.
Wishbone
09-18-2010, 04:12 AM
I really hate to say it and I mean REALLY HATE TO SAY IT but I have to agree here Matt has become a comlete and total dick and has no chance of ever making it to the top now. His heel run was his last chance and althow WWE droped the ball there I just have to believe that if Matt cleaned up and got in shape mabe just mabe WWE would give him another shot but alas he is now bound to go to TNA and probably coast on what little popularity he has left for a few years before fading into obscurity and not being seen again until WWE brings 'The Hardy Boyz' in to be inducted into the HOF years down the line.
whiteyford
09-18-2010, 04:37 AM
Hes a whiny bitch, let him go to tna and be done with him.
AJHayes
09-18-2010, 09:54 AM
I've stood behind Matt as the one who was the base of the team, the more technically sound one, and ultimately, the one who would have a longer career.
But, now his ring work is the drizzling shit and he's a whiney bitch (as previously stated). He would do far better for himself if he would shut the fuck up and quit working his fans. I'm. Not resentful or mad, just really disappointed. He's had hot angles HANDED to him and in one way or another has shit the bed with all of them.
whiteyford
09-18-2010, 11:01 AM
I've stood behind Matt as the one who was the base of the team, the more technically sound one, and ultimately, the one who would have a longer career.
Same here, always figured Jeff would burn out quicker and Matt would be the Hardy who would accomplish something in the long term. I actually thought he was quite clever using twitter and myspace etc before all the other talent caught up, working his angles into it too, but now it just comes across as bitching. Let TNA have the Hardy Boyz reunion, and the inevitible tlc feud with team 3D.
Matt isn't completely to blame here, guys.
You ever have a job that you were really good at, but for one reason or another, the upper management or your teammatees (or both) never recognize you for your work ethic and continually treat you like shit, despite the fact that you constantly deliver a sound product on a consistent basis?
It makes you sick. It makes you apathetic and it makes you not give a fuck.
Matt has had chances, but so has the WWE to capitalize on Matt, and they haven't done that. Edge/Hardy at Summerslam is a perfect perfect perfect example of Vince McMahon being more interested in showing how much larger his cock is than Matt's than he is interested in making a new star in Matt Hardy. A fucking turnbuckle spot that leads to a bleed-out match call? During one of the biggest, most talked about and realistically interest driven matches all year and they book the returning good guy, who is hot as hell and mad as fuck about his girlfriend getting stolen from him, to fucking lose due to bleed out in about 5 minutes flat. FUCK THAT.
They had a great thing with Matt Hardy V.1 and what happened to that? Where did that go? What did they do with one of the hottest properties on Smackdown? They let it fucking die. MH V.1 could've been a US Champion at the very, very least.
Matt versus Jeff at Mania was the best they've booked him in a long time. But because Jeff leaves, what the fuck do they do? They ignore the brother, who is not only getting hot again as a heel, but who could realistically step up and fill missing gaps in Smackdown's upper card and main event. A heel Matt Hardy in the main event on the Smackdown roster made perfect sense. And what the fuck do they do? They turn him face and do absolutely nothing with him.
Fuck that. Let him go, let him get back in shape and go to TNA where he might actually get some storylines that don't get pulled out from under him at the worst possible moment.
bigslimjj
09-18-2010, 11:29 AM
IT'S MATT FUCKING HARDY! WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ANYMORE?
FUCK
Majunior
09-18-2010, 01:01 PM
Fox is dead on.
I blame WWE far more than Matt. Not saying Matt isn't partly responsible, but damn if the E hasn't pulled it out from under him... every single time. Matt Hardy should be handling things better, but if he's a bit fed up and apathetic, I don't condone it... but I can understand.
AJHayes summed up my view on Hardy himself -- "I've stood behind Matt as the one who was the base of the team, the more technically sound one, and ultimately, the one who would have a longer career."
And yet Vince yanks the rug every time, for how long now? How long does Charlie Brown try to kick the football before he finally tells Lucy he doesn't give a shit anymore?
Destro 2.0
09-18-2010, 01:09 PM
Fuck it.
When Matt went crazy-jealous heel over Jeff's success, I was pumped. He started wearing new attire -- tights, even -- and drastically shifted his appearance. He was whining and bitching and it was fantastic. I thought, "this is it! He's finally on a new track, and he could really get somewhere!"
But he didn't. His brother was leaving, so WWE turned him face...for basically no reason. Now the new attire is gone, the new attitude is gone, the hair is longer and scragglier and his weight is a fucking joke. All interest he had created and all support he had garnered from me...is gone.
I no longer care if he ever gets to the main event. I don't even want him to reach any new heights. Fuck him. He's nothing but fucking talk, and any hope I had for him has slowly but certainly morphed into resentment. That's right: I resent Matt Hardy. He's not putting in any real effort, he's pandering to the fans he has left, and he's taking up a spot that could go to someone else. And I don't even care who, it's just a spot that ANYone who is actually willing to put forth effort could use.
When I first started watching WWF, I hated Rock and Austin. But they grew on me, and now I rather enjoy both of them. I've had that happen a few times, now. But never, never have I had someone completely ruin themselves for me. And now I simply must say, after watching Matt Hardy complain about life on a vlog -- and then seeing Paul London make fun of said vlog -- I've turned on Matt Hardy.
So, yeah. Fuck him.
I agree with everything you have just said. He is just all talk and just playing his idiot fans. I loved his heel turn just as much as the next guy but after Jeff Left and he turned back. I could give a fuck less whatever has to say or do. Because he has just become so fucking terrible.
DInsaneOne
09-18-2010, 06:12 PM
matt hardy has lost it...he is talented and got some pretty unfair breaks. But lets face it in WWE there are few top spots, and it was just simply a combination of him not caring anymore and persons not favoring him backstage.
i would place carlito and matt hardy in the same category right now...talented but not used right, and just didnt care to be in wwe anymore.
Schlomey
09-18-2010, 06:16 PM
If I had to put one word out there to place Matt Hardy it would be "EGO"
The videos. The way he treats his fans. The cryptic bullshit to keep people checking his pages. He is LOVING seeing 10 threads a day created in dedication to him.
In his mind I guess there is no such thing as bad press.
He is just so full of himself that he is blinded by the fact that he has become outdated and useless and isn't willing to WORK to fix it. Undertaker must really dislike this guy because he is EVERYTHING that he isn't.
Mr. Nerfect
09-18-2010, 10:08 PM
Matt isn't completely to blame here, guys.
You ever have a job that you were really good at, but for one reason or another, the upper management or your teammatees (or both) never recognize you for your work ethic and continually treat you like shit, despite the fact that you constantly deliver a sound product on a consistent basis?
It makes you sick. It makes you apathetic and it makes you not give a fuck.
Matt has had chances, but so has the WWE to capitalize on Matt, and they haven't done that. Edge/Hardy at Summerslam is a perfect perfect perfect example of Vince McMahon being more interested in showing how much larger his cock is than Matt's than he is interested in making a new star in Matt Hardy. A fucking turnbuckle spot that leads to a bleed-out match call? During one of the biggest, most talked about and realistically interest driven matches all year and they book the returning good guy, who is hot as hell and mad as fuck about his girlfriend getting stolen from him, to fucking lose due to bleed out in about 5 minutes flat. FUCK THAT.
They had a great thing with Matt Hardy V.1 and what happened to that? Where did that go? What did they do with one of the hottest properties on Smackdown? They let it fucking die. MH V.1 could've been a US Champion at the very, very least.
Matt versus Jeff at Mania was the best they've booked him in a long time. But because Jeff leaves, what the fuck do they do? They ignore the brother, who is not only getting hot again as a heel, but who could realistically step up and fill missing gaps in Smackdown's upper card and main event. A heel Matt Hardy in the main event on the Smackdown roster made perfect sense. And what the fuck do they do? They turn him face and do absolutely nothing with him.
Fuck that. Let him go, let him get back in shape and go to TNA where he might actually get some storylines that don't get pulled out from under him at the worst possible moment.
Look, no one has been there defending Matt Hardy in the past as much as me. I am a huge mark for the guy as a performer.
In 2005, the guy was fucking money. Vince absolutely fucked up in this year, not only with Matt Hardy, but with Christian, as well. This year was, as you said, about Vince proving he was the boss and what he said go. People want to really flock behind these guys? He'll take one of them and their heat, and job them out; he'll drive the other one to TNA. Yeah, that was fucked.
The WWE have dropped the ball with Matt Hardy. The times have changed and guys like Hardy, Christian, MVP, etc. are sort of being passed over for younger and fresher talent, this is true. The tragedy is that these guys never got their shot when they should have, due to politics or whatever. But to be fair, look at Christian -- the guy is being used in a feud with Alberto Del Rio when Hardy can barely serve as credible fodder for the guy. MVP, despite being stale from the critical perspective, seems to be someone the WWE are really trying to position as a fan-favourite to shove down our throats. Let's just see what the WWE does with him when his new theme song comes out.
Some guys in this business just cannot be ignored right now. That's why The Miz and Kofi Kingston are going up. Matt Hardy is trying to grip to something that he was, instead of making the guy he is someone to grip on to.
Damian Rey
09-18-2010, 11:16 PM
I'm not getting why everyone is getting on Matt for "being a mark for himself". Honestly, who the fuck isn't these days? Who hasn't been? Triple H, HBK, Austin, Lesnar, Hall, Nash, Flair, Hogan, Orton, etc.
Most everyone who's had a high level of success in the wrestling business, which Matt has most certainly had, becomes a mark for themselves.
Back to the topic, I think Matt's time in WWE has come to an end. They're not going to push him any further than they already have. While going about it the way he does is a bit ridiculous, how can ypu blame a guy whose been shafted three different times from truly elevating themselves? Fox got it right. Matt feels underutilized, underappreciated and probably unmotivated. That's not entirely his fault.
Hanso Amore
09-18-2010, 11:39 PM
Matt Hardy has rode his brother getting speared off the rings at TLC2 to fame
and it finally died out
Damian Rey
09-18-2010, 11:46 PM
Matt Hardy has rode his brother getting speared off the rings at TLC2 to fame
and it finally died out
That is not entirely true. Matt got himself over as Matt Hardy V1. Jeff also had nothing to do with Matt promoting himself after his initial release and eventual return feud with Edge.
I think that reasoning is a cheap cop out as to how Matt Hardy achieved the success that he did.
Mr. Nerfect
09-19-2010, 02:04 AM
No one truthfully believes that, Damian. Nor does anyone blame Matt Hardy (entirely) for his past pushes being dropped. But the guy is still doing his "V1" handsign. That gimmick ended how many years ago? When is Matt Hardy going to do something...anything, which says "Hey, I am Matt Hardy, and I am aware this year is 2010 and I need to do something."
Kurt Angle continues to have great matches. Triple H is working with creative. John Cena has been willing to put over guys like Sheamus and Nexus, which is something so many other guys wouldn't do. Randy Orton has been on fire lately. The Miz has moved merchandise and has been turning out constantly improved work. Kofi Kingston has a great match with anybody he works with.
Matt Hardy is not a talentless hack, and if he got himself back on track, stopped speaking out about the company and put the sort of effort in that demanded attention rather than cried about not getting it -- Hardy could be amazing. Right now, he's an enhancement guy that's hard to get behind because his only perpetuating feature is his heat from years back.
Afterlife
09-19-2010, 07:04 AM
That, and he looks like a fucking mess.
Kane Knight
09-19-2010, 10:23 AM
I'm amazed Matt Hardy can garner this much discussion.
Innovator
09-19-2010, 10:41 AM
I'm with Fignuts
Volare
09-19-2010, 11:01 AM
I'm amazed Matt Hardy can garner this much discussion.
Joe Kerr
09-19-2010, 11:15 AM
by the title I thought this was a Coors light commercial.
Volare
09-19-2010, 12:36 PM
That could be a future endeavor for him!
Destro 2.0
09-19-2010, 12:45 PM
IF he really wants out why don't he just slash Edge's tires again?
IF he really wants out why don't he just slash Edge's tires again?
Again?
Gertner
09-19-2010, 12:51 PM
Omgz workrate!
Destro 2.0
09-19-2010, 12:52 PM
Again?
Its just rumor I recall hearing him talk about it in a shoot that was one of the things why they got rid of him.
Damian Rey
09-19-2010, 08:13 PM
No one truthfully believes that, Damian. Nor does anyone blame Matt Hardy (entirely) for his past pushes being dropped. But the guy is still doing his "V1" handsign. That gimmick ended how many years ago? When is Matt Hardy going to do something...anything, which says "Hey, I am Matt Hardy, and I am aware this year is 2010 and I need to do something."
Kurt Angle continues to have great matches. Triple H is working with creative. John Cena has been willing to put over guys like Sheamus and Nexus, which is something so many other guys wouldn't do. Randy Orton has been on fire lately. The Miz has moved merchandise and has been turning out constantly improved work. Kofi Kingston has a great match with anybody he works with.
Matt Hardy is not a talentless hack, and if he got himself back on track, stopped speaking out about the company and put the sort of effort in that demanded attention rather than cried about not getting it -- Hardy could be amazing. Right now, he's an enhancement guy that's hard to get behind because his only perpetuating feature is his heat from years back.
Well to counter that, John Cena, Randy Orton and Triple H are doing the same mannerisms that got them over in the first place.
Also...it's not as if Matt has creative control with his character's direction. I'd feel safe saying he's not happy with his gimmick. The guys you've mentioned have also been in and stayed in the good graces of WWE. Matt, for whatever reasons,bhas never been seen to bne taken seriously enough to be elevated or to be in a position to be elevated like Kolfi is right now.
I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy. I agree that he is out of shape, phones in his matches, and has a "don't give a fuck" demeanor. Not to mention not doing himself any favors by constantly throwing bitch fits on the internet. But that doesnlt mean he is not justified in feeling the way he does.
Its just rumor I recall hearing him talk about it in a shoot that was one of the things why they got rid of him.
He's a bitch, then. A real men would slash his artery.
Mr. Nerfect
09-20-2010, 08:30 AM
Well to counter that, John Cena, Randy Orton and Triple H are doing the same mannerisms that got them over in the first place.
Also...it's not as if Matt has creative control with his character's direction. I'd feel safe saying he's not happy with his gimmick. The guys you've mentioned have also been in and stayed in the good graces of WWE. Matt, for whatever reasons,bhas never been seen to bne taken seriously enough to be elevated or to be in a position to be elevated like Kolfi is right now.
I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy. I agree that he is out of shape, phones in his matches, and has a "don't give a fuck" demeanor. Not to mention not doing himself any favors by constantly throwing bitch fits on the internet. But that doesnlt mean he is not justified in feeling the way he does.
The difference between John Cena, Randy Orton and Triple H and Matt Hardy, is that they are John Cena, Randy Orton and Triple H, and he is Matt Hardy. You do raise valid points, and I can understand and appreciate that Matt Hardy has the right to be unhappy. Let's compare his situation to one that Carlito found himself in:
I love Carlito's ring work. I don't think the guy was a subpar performer, or "lazy" as many labelled him. I understand that he got annoyed at the way he was told to portray his character as being "more like The Rock," and understand that the guy was more comfortable as a heel. On the flip-side, you have to play the role you are given sometimes. I can understand he didn't want to waste the prime years of his career on WWE Superstars.
I want to support Carlito in his protest about how he was being used. The guy could have done so much more. Right now, I don't feel like sticking up for Hardy. If I am going to appreciate that Matt Hardy feels fed-up that he isn't being used better, then I think Matt Hardy should appreciate that for whatever reason, I don't give a fuck about him like I used to.
Things pro-Hardy I will agree with:
* His shit with Christian, Drew McIntyre and Cody Rhodes was pretty poorly handled -- especially for SmackDown!. That kind of stop-startage and forgetage (new words) is the shit RAW is known for.
* He probably could have been used in a hot feud with CM Punk right after Jeff left the company, but that didn't happen.
* He doesn't have creative control over his character.
But here is what is holding me back from getting behind Hardy:
* Christian has essentially been put in such a similar boat to Matt. He isn't being allowed to talk (which he can do much better than Hardy), and to be honest, over the past few months he's probably had less notable programs than Matt has. Christian is doing far more with far less.
* He's looking like a mess. This might be a small thing to some, but the Hardy charm is wearing thing in Matt's middle age. There have been times when Matt is in tremendous shape, and I understand that he has had health issues and all that -- but the guy has just ended up looking ratty. He could still play the same character with shorter hair, and a better physique. While Hardy may have excuses for appearing to be out of shape, that's like Dixie Carter arguing that the stuff in TNA that gets "Fire Russo!" chants wasn't actually written by Russo. It's just not as believable seeing Matt Hardy beat Drew McIntyre right now (which he has done in the past, so it's not like the guy has been entirely jobbed out, or anything).
* Hardy may not have creative control over his character, but what is he really doing to advance himself? What is he really doing better than anyone else on the SmackDown! roster? If he wants a better spot, shouldn't he be working the mic better than CM Punk? Shouldn't he be working in the ring better than Jack Swagger? Shouldn't he be more consistent than Christian or Kofi Kingston? Shouldn't he be moving more merchandise than Rey Mysterio? Granted, Hardy doesn't need to do all of these things -- but what does he really bring that makes him special? Special in 2010? If he were working as a serviceable mid-carder, it would be fine, and well-deserved, but he needs to turn up the heat if he is going to get the pot boiling.
Swiss Ultimate
09-20-2010, 09:52 AM
IT'S MATT FUCKING HARDY! WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ANYMORE?
FUCK
That's kind of the point of this thread.
Innovator
09-20-2010, 09:54 AM
This thread needs more Jericho
ThatsMyEagerFace
09-20-2010, 04:05 PM
WHY. I wanna know. What's wrong with this crazy dude. He has been posting all these random tweets (see older news) and his Matt Hardy V LOG #67 (i think) was wierd. The Angelic Diablo Stuff was to further a gimmick. Do you guys think this is a gimmmick, or has he just gone round the bend?
Schlomey
09-20-2010, 04:07 PM
why...i wanna know....do we need another MH thread? Are you matt hardy?
Afterlife
09-20-2010, 04:09 PM
At least my Matt Hardy thread was strictly about how I feel.
Destro 2.0
09-20-2010, 04:19 PM
Yeah could we quit with all the Matt Hardy threads Afterlife really summed up how I fell about Matthew myself. I mean how man more threads are going to be made about this fucking Drug Addict.
Lock Jaw
09-20-2010, 04:41 PM
He's doing it so that he can get 500 threads created about him on internet message boards. Trying to overcome Chris Jericho and CM Punk in amount of threads made about them.
Ermaximus
09-20-2010, 04:43 PM
Can we get a mod in here to just turn ALL the Matt hardy threads into 1 giant, MATT HARDY IS A FUCKING MORONIC COCKSUCKER WHO IS JUST BITCHING ABOUT HIS JOBBER ROLE IN WWE SO HE HAS BEEN EATING HIS WAY TO BEING FUTURE ENDEAVORED AND PISSING A FIT VIA TWITTER SO FIRE HIS BITCH ASS AND LET TNA HAVE HIM ALREADY, thread?
bigslimjj
09-20-2010, 04:43 PM
"A lot" would be my first guess.
Perry Saturn
09-20-2010, 04:45 PM
Afterlife was right. His thread was better
Afterlife
09-20-2010, 04:47 PM
Perry knows.
teamXtremist
09-20-2010, 04:53 PM
dude is so bitter and in denial im not sure he knows who he is outside of his i will not die gimmic its like hes in character 24/7
Next Big Thing
09-20-2010, 04:54 PM
You kind of have to cut him a little... not a lot... but a little slack. The love of your life cheats on you with your best friend which becomes a public firestorm and culminates in you getting fired. You're brought back and used to further the gimmick of said best friend and watch him become a top guy. That alone would be enough to put someone a little on edge, no pun intended.
Then, despite being considered the more talented brother for most of your careers, you have to watch the WWE give your younger brother opportunities to compete with guys you never would have been allowed to even sit next to and he ends up becoming a huge star. You wouldn't necessarily be jealous of him, but you would wish you had the same opportunity.
Then, that same brother, gets busted for having a shit ton of drugs and could face prison time. This also unfolds in the public eye.
Meanwhile, you're stuck in lower card hell despite being with the company for almost 15 years and wrestling is the only thing you've ever done.
Granted, he brought some of it onto himself, but I'd be a little out there too if I had all that shit happen to me.
Nicky Fives
09-20-2010, 04:54 PM
I couldn't care less about Fatt Hardy.....
Next Big Thing
09-20-2010, 04:54 PM
You kind of have to cut him a little... not a lot... but a little slack. The love of your life cheats on you with your best friend which becomes a public firestorm and culminates in you getting fired. You're brought back and used to further the gimmick of said best friend and watch him become a top guy. That alone would be enough to put someone a little on edge, no pun intended.
Then, despite being considered the more talented brother for most of your careers, you have to watch the WWE give your younger brother opportunities to compete with guys you never would have been allowed to even sit next to and he ends up becoming a huge star. You wouldn't necessarily be jealous of him, but you would wish you had the same opportunity.
Then, that same brother, gets busted for having a shit ton of drugs and could face prison time. This also unfolds in the public eye.
Meanwhile, you're stuck in lower card hell despite being with the company for almost 15 years and wrestling is the only thing you've ever done.
Granted, he brought some of it onto himself, but I'd be a little out there too if I had all that shit happen to me.
The Naitch
09-20-2010, 05:02 PM
he needs to garner some attention onto himself. Like Dennis Rodman. Nobody cared that he was this awesome rebounder, until he started cross dressing and acting all crazy
he's gotta make people wanna care about him.
The Naitch
09-20-2010, 05:03 PM
point said, remember when v1ahhh was like the hottest thing in wrestling back in 2003? I wonder why it just randomly fizzled out.
he needs to go heel, and have a v1ahhh type follower (Moore) again
Joe Kerr
09-20-2010, 05:04 PM
Upcoming threads...
Matt Hardy makes a Sandwhich
Favorite Matt Hardy Moment....late 90's early 2000
Matt Hardy the Man ...that ate a man
matt hardy...Will never Die...et
Matt Hardy..one night in Lita...after edge
Lock Jaw
09-20-2010, 05:22 PM
Don't forget a
Top 5 Matt Hardy Depreciation Threads
thread.
The Naitch
09-20-2010, 05:26 PM
http://www.drawingnow.com/file/pic/gallery/41041_view.jpg
LIIIIIIIIITTTTAAAAAAA
MMMAAAAAAAAAAATTTT
Well I for one have been waiting for this very thread. I've held off from expressing my feelings on Matt Hardy in the other FOUR Matt Hardy threads, but now - NOW - I can finally get it off my chest.
Here goes: Meh.
Savio
09-20-2010, 06:52 PM
yeah it might be
Savio
09-20-2010, 06:54 PM
This guy needs to calm down
Gertner
09-20-2010, 07:01 PM
Lol I remember posting this. A couple people neg repped me and bitched that I was full of shit
Londoner
09-20-2010, 07:01 PM
wondered what was going on.
:D
Schlomey
09-20-2010, 07:02 PM
I, for one, enjoyed his ECW Championship run.
Schlomey
09-20-2010, 08:24 PM
what a crazy assumption!
Destro 2.0
09-20-2010, 10:51 PM
9 pages devoted to Matt Hardy are you fucking kidding?
Gertner
09-20-2010, 10:53 PM
I'm not pleased that my Matt Hardy Threads keep getting erased.
Destro 2.0
09-20-2010, 10:54 PM
I'm not pleased that my Matt Hardy Threads keep getting erased.
Then you bet make another one asking why do the mods keep on covering up Matt Hardy and his attempt to sabotage his WWE Career.
There was life in the 'What did Matt Hardy eat today?' thread. Admittedly it probably would have been filled by the muppets that post 8 :rofl: smileys per post but it could have had a chance.
Gertner
09-20-2010, 11:11 PM
I even made a thread replacing his name with "Blatt Blardy" but it was somehow sniffed out.
Volare
09-20-2010, 11:13 PM
Gertner you sly fox!
blake639raw
09-21-2010, 11:33 AM
How would everybody feel about a possible Matt/Lita reunion one day?
The Pope
09-21-2010, 11:37 AM
AJ Styles, RVD
The Pope
09-21-2010, 11:37 AM
And Samoa Joe
DAMN iNATOR
09-21-2010, 08:26 PM
"FROM THE 'FRONT FUCKING PAGE'"
– Matt Hardy continues to indicate that he will parting ways with WWE in the near future. He noted to a fan on his YouTube channel that he feels it’s time to move on from the organization. “I have sucked it up for a while and I’ve done pretty much everything I could humanly do,” Hardy wrote. “I think it’s just time to move on.. I would have liked to stay in WWE for my entire career, but looks like it’s just not gonna work out that way. Thanks for your comment pal.”
Good riddance, lard-ass. And I'm pretty sure the only sucking up he's been doing is of his gut to try and decieve the fans when they see him, and to Vince backstage in a last-ditch attempt at a WWE/World title push.
But, a little more seriously...do I think he could jump to TNA when his no-compete clause with WWE is up? Sure. Would he be any more of a star just because he wasn't that much of one in WWE? Time would tell, but as one of the responses to a question on a Magic 8-Ball go: Signs point to no. I just couldn't see TNA management (OK, OK, aside from Russo...) thinking he'd get over as a World Champion with them. Tag and maybe X-Division title guy, yes, world title guy?...not so much.
SlickyTrickyDamon
09-21-2010, 09:06 PM
Matt Hardy needs to attend the Rally to Restore Sanity, and so does everybody who has repeatedly posted about him.
DAMN iNATOR
09-23-2010, 02:39 PM
Matt Hardy needs to attend the Rally to Restore Sanity, and so does everybody who has repeatedly posted about him.
No, he and everyone else TOTALLY need to go to Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear Alive, same day, Lincoln Memorial...it's the only way we'll ever get any more zany MH rants on YouTube.
The Pope
09-23-2010, 02:44 PM
Matt Hardy needs to attend the Rally to Restore Sanity, and so does everybody who has repeatedly posted about him.
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bigslimjj
09-23-2010, 04:23 PM
The hardy boyz reunion will take place soon. Then everybody will mark out when they have a spectacular match with MCMG. I've been wanting him to leave for a while now anyway. If you notice Vince is trying to push out almost all remnants of the attitude era,save kane,Taker,and Trips. Christian is only used to push other people,and Jericho is gone. It's a new day in wwe,and it sucks donkeys.
Destro 2.0
09-23-2010, 04:31 PM
The hardy boyz reunion will take place soon. Then everybody will mark out when they have a spectacular match with MCMG. I've been wanting him to leave for a while now anyway. If you notice Vince is trying to push out almost all remnants of the attitude era,save kane,Taker,and Trips. Christian is only used to push other people,and Jericho is gone. It's a new day in wwe,and it sucks donkeys.
No that match will suck Jeff Hardy's performance in TNA is just plain terrible. I have 2 Matts matches in ROH he sucks in WWE and he still sucks outside of WWE. TNA sucks and its just going to be another reject holding down someone who deserves to be a star.
Ermaximus
09-23-2010, 04:49 PM
Having just read this thread from page 1 to page 9, it makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever. Kind of like Hardy's career.
bigslimjj
09-23-2010, 04:52 PM
No that match will suck Jeff Hardy's performance in TNA is just plain terrible. I have 2 Matts matches in ROH he sucks in WWE and he still sucks outside of WWE. TNA sucks and its just going to be another reject holding down someone who deserves to be a star.I saw some ROH tapes too. I think it's time they repainted that barn they wrestle in.
Destro 2.0
09-23-2010, 04:59 PM
I saw some ROH tapes too. I think it's time they repainted that barn they wrestle in.
Dude you are a fucking idiot you stand behind something that Vince Russo helps make. That proves how much of a fucking idiot you really fucking are.
Nine pages on Matt Hardy.
Jesus Christ, it's working!
Destro 2.0
09-23-2010, 05:03 PM
I saw some ROH tapes too. I think it's time they repainted that barn they wrestle in.
Too bad they are selling out shows and actually making there fans happy. Too bad TNA can't say the same. Except with you because you are a fucking moron who thinks there wrestling is spectacular. Thats why they have had over a dozen Botchamanias devoted to just them. There shows have less wrestling then Monday Night Raw.
The Pope
09-23-2010, 05:19 PM
But you also have to see that RoH sells out shows because they go wrestle at small colleges and stuff..
Destro 2.0
09-23-2010, 05:26 PM
But you also have to see that RoH sells out shows because they go wrestle at small colleges and stuff..
Yeah but selling out shows on the indies isn't such a small feat. Hell TNA has ran shows in High Schools. The only thing that even draws money for TNA is there live shows. Because there Buyrates suck and there TV ratings suck,there video game failed, and I don't even know how the toys or any of that shit sells.
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