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Juan
12-15-2008, 05:58 AM
WE DID IT! A legit tag team becomes legit singles World Champions!

First and foremost, I want to congratulate my brother Jeff-I am SO proud of him for never giving up of never being detoured. Tonight history was made. Jeff and myself, as the Hardy Boyz, are one of the greatest, most legendary tag teams in the professional wrestling business. That can not be denied, regardless of how smart of a fan or critic you are. We broke barriers in Ladder Matches, Tables Matches, TLC Matches, and several other areas. We semi-main evented Wrestlemania, we did everything you could do as a tag team. At the risk of sounding overconfident, for the record, we have sold more merchandise than any tag team in the history of the business. That is a fact. We have the greatest fans in the world-they've made all these things happen.

When a great tag team splits, one member usually goes on to be great while the other one struggles. That's not the case with us, nor ever will be. We are the first ever true blood brothers to go on to have extremely successful singles careers and both become World Heavyweight Champions. That has never been done in the WWE. Thanks again to all of our supporters and the people who have stuck with us through thick and thin. And I can promise you this-we're just getting started on our singles success journey. Look at my default picture-a picture say a thousands words-this one is no different.

Jeff and I LOVE our diehard supporters, because without them, we would have never made it this far. And there's NO ONE, regardless of how smart or sarcastic they are, that can put a dent in this amazing feat we've achieved. We've came quite a long ways from kids playing wrestlers on a trampoline and wrestling in the Southern Pines National Guard Armory for a couple bucks. We exemplify a living, breathing dream that people can believe in. No one can take away what two little country boys from rural Cameron, North Carolina have accomplished.

We wanna thank our Dad on Earth and our Mother in Heaven, I know she's looking down on us with a smile on her face and pride in her soul. We wanna thank everyone who has believed and supported us, you're more important to us than you could ever imagine. We wanna thank the critics and non-believers for driving us, hope you enjoy those negative words as you swallow them. We don't care about star ratings, match reviews, or what people out of our circle think about our "pushes" and careers (That's not a blanket statement directed towards everyone, some peeps "get" what we're doing actually).. We most importantly care about satisfying our casual fans, giving back to the kids that are wrestling fans (which at one time was us), and being examples of success that people can be motivated by.

I love my brother more than you'll ever know-and I have NEVER been more proud of him than I am right now. God bless you all, I can't say thank you enough. Dreams do come true-Matt and Jeff Hardy are proof of that.

Matt Hardy
ECW World Heavyweight Champion

Jeff Hardy
WWE World Champion

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#BROKEN Hasney
12-15-2008, 05:59 AM
And there's NO ONE, regardless of how smart or sarcastic they are, that can put a dent in this amazing feat we've achieved.

Matt Hardy
ECW World Heavyweight Champion

DrA
12-15-2008, 06:23 AM
He is a pathetic fucking liar. Matt Hardy is not a world champion. Matt Hardy needs to get over himself.

#BROKEN Hasney
12-15-2008, 06:24 AM
I think I got to him. He said smart or sarcastic, but I used razor-sharp wit that probably cut him to the bone.

RP
12-15-2008, 08:14 AM
I get the feeling Matt and Jeff Hardy secretly fuck eachother

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 09:09 AM
APA is a legit tag team that has both been legit world champions.

The Mackem
12-15-2008, 09:16 AM
Yeah but one was before, one was after.

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 09:32 AM
What is your point?

Splaya
12-15-2008, 09:35 AM
WE DID IT! A legit tag team becomes legit singles World Champions!


When a great tag team splits, one member usually goes on to be great while the other one struggles.


Since when is having the ECW title so great.






Too late :shifty:?

The Mackem
12-15-2008, 09:44 AM
What is your point?

That Matt Hardy's point was that normally tag teams split up and one does well possibly culminating in a world title win and the other does badly. By identifying APA, you have proven his point as Bradshaw went onto bigger and better things claiming a world title whereas Ron Simmons didn't.

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 09:58 AM
That Matt Hardy's point was that normally tag teams split up and one does well possibly culminating in a world title win and the other does badly. By identifying APA, you have proven his point as Bradshaw went onto bigger and better things claiming a world title whereas Ron Simmons didn't.

DAMN

The Mackem
12-15-2008, 10:01 AM
Yeah but not a world title.

Jeritron
12-15-2008, 10:12 AM
Let the guy be excited for christ sakes. It's true that tag teams never achieve that, and it is true that the Hardys were a massive draw and sold a boatload of merchandise.
APA is a different example. For the most part, tag teams go the way of the Rockers or The Hart Foundation when they break up into singles careers.
Both Matt and Jeff have been successful on their own merit.
Ron Simmons was successful beforehand, and wound up in APA when there was nothing left for him. JBL won the WWE title, no denying that, but it wasn't really on his own merit.

I think the best argument against what he's saying is Edge and Christian. Since Matt won the ECW belt and Christian won the TNA(NWA) belt, I'd say they're about even with the Hardys.
That's fitting though, since what they accomplished as tag teams they did together.
My only hope is that Matt and Christian capture the WWE or World Heavyweight belt(s) at some point.
Still don't see the harm in a guy being excited for both himself and his brother, when everyone thought he'd go the way of Marty Jannetty and his brother would go the way of River Phoenix.

KingofOldSchool
12-15-2008, 11:07 AM
Oh shut the fuck up.

The ECW World Title is just as legit as all of the other titles being handed out nowadays.

Dorkchop
12-15-2008, 12:08 PM
Matt also mentioned him and Jeff holding world titles at the same time.

Kane Knight
12-15-2008, 01:00 PM
I love the "no detours" thing. Because losing your job, losing your push, getting handed the world and blowing it certainly wouldn't count as a detour.

But KooSH is right. The ECW is no less valid than The HHH and John Cena championships.

BobBitchen
12-15-2008, 01:16 PM
A dream come true-two blood brothers, two World Champs! A first ever in the WWE!



fROM HIS PHOTO SECTION AT MY SPACE

thedamndest
12-15-2008, 01:18 PM
I wonder if they buy those pants in bulk or what.

Jeritron
12-15-2008, 01:23 PM
They bought everything Hot Topic had at the close of the 90s, and they're still in business thanks to them

Jeritron
12-15-2008, 01:28 PM
I really can't believe Jeff is WWE Champion though. I've envisioned it since 2000, but never fully believed it would happen until last year. Once he got suspended before Mania, I thought it would NEVER happen and now I'm shocked it has.

He's really the last guy left that I predicted/rooted for to become world champion that has or will. Dating back to the attitude era, I wanted to see a group of guys win the big one.
Jericho, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Booker T, RVD, Edge and Jeff. Now, they all have. Even Orton and Cena, who I wanted to win the title in 2004 went on to do so.
Even CM Punk has. I guess Matt Hardy is really the only one I want to see become WWE champ now, that hasn't. Christian too.

I always like to see new and interesting champions, but I don't care nearly as much about whether or not Morrison, MVP, Kennedy, or whoever wins the belt as I did with Jeff and Edge, etc.

In a way, it's the end of a childhood wishlist, and as a result an era

Lock Jaw
12-15-2008, 01:38 PM
Poor Matt Hardy, and his thinking the ECW Title is a legit World Title. He was kicking ass and taking names on Smackdown, and a real world title push could very well have been his in time... but then Jeff gets traded there, and Matt is demoted down to ECW.

KingofOldSchool
12-15-2008, 01:50 PM
Poor Matt Hardy, and his thinking the ECW Title is a legit World Title. He was kicking ass and taking names on Smackdown, and a real world title push could very well have been his in time... but then Jeff gets traded there, and Matt is demoted down to ECW.

Then I guess Taz, Raisin, Shane Douglas, Sandman, etc. were never legit World Champs?

Oh wait, they were because it was in the "Real" ECW, not this "fake" ECW stuff Vince McMahon is passing it off as!!!!

thedamndest
12-15-2008, 01:52 PM
I would have thought it would have been the other way around, that Jeff would have been ECW champ and Matt WWE.

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 02:09 PM
BTW, I'm not counting Matt out, in a year or 2 he might have a brief run as a WWE Champ or WHC.

Kane Knight
12-15-2008, 02:20 PM
Then I guess Taz, Raisin, Shane Douglas, Sandman, etc. were never legit World Champs?

Oh wait, they were because it was in the "Real" ECW, not this "fake" ECW stuff Vince McMahon is passing it off as!!!!

Makes Sense. After all, ECW was always a WWE tertiary title not treated as a world title by the owners.

#BROKEN Hasney
12-15-2008, 02:23 PM
Stop being cynical about our cynicism :(.

But it's like all of ECW seems to be on Raw or Smackdown at the same time and whoever the ECW champ is always gets beat by guys who can't get win the big one on the other 2 shows. I wish it wasn't, because Matt Hardy is much better than what they make the ECW title out to be.

GD
12-15-2008, 02:24 PM
I am happy for the Hardy brothers. Wait wasn't the E & C Connection a legit tag team to hold the world titles.

KingofOldSchool
12-15-2008, 02:26 PM
I am happy for the Hardy brothers. Wait wasn't the E & C Connection a legit tag team to hold the world titles.


Not in the WWE.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll
12-15-2008, 02:27 PM
I find Matt Hardy incredibly boring, in and out of the ring.

#BROKEN Hasney
12-15-2008, 02:27 PM
I am happy for the Hardy brothers. Wait wasn't the E & C Connection a legit tag team to hold the world titles.

Yeah, but they're not going to say Christian former TNA champ.

This might be kayfabe from MH anyways, get jealous of the attention Jeff is getting as WWE champion when he won his "big one" first and turn heel on him.

Champion Vs Champion, brother vs brother at Mania could be awesome and raise the ECW title. I hate to say it but I can't see Jeff holding it that long though, and that's not even taking a wellness violation into account.

KingofOldSchool
12-15-2008, 02:29 PM
I'd laugh if Jeff winning the title was just their way of them announcing Jeff's third Wellness Violation, thus getting fired. So that way they can say that they would even fire one of their own World Champions if they went three strikes.

Afterlife
12-15-2008, 02:53 PM
I wonder if they buy those pants in bulk or what.

Matt Hardy makes his own pants. Do with that what you will.

Afterlife
12-15-2008, 02:57 PM
Champion Vs Champion, brother vs brother at Mania could be awesome and raise the ECW title. I hate to say it but I can't see Jeff holding it that long though, and that's not even taking a wellness violation into account.

That's very possible. But, Edge's first title reign was, like...2 weeks. So, time will tell -- especially given Hardy's history.

Shadow
12-15-2008, 03:43 PM
JEFF HARDY! JEFF HARDY! JEFF HARDY!

Destor
12-15-2008, 03:46 PM
So was Matt taking a shot at Edge and Christian? Or more specifically TNA? Weren't they both champs at the same time? Edge the WWE and Christian the NWA?

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 03:56 PM
Come to think of it, if TNA/NWA (which ever one they are using at the time) is considered a legit world championship, the ECW is too.

Xero
12-15-2008, 03:58 PM
Come to think of it, if TNA/NWA (which ever one they are using at the time) is considered a legit world championship, the ECW is too.

TNA title's on par with the ECW title, which is between the IC/US division and the WWE/WH division.

Lock Jaw
12-15-2008, 04:35 PM
I'd say TNA's title is above the ECW Title and the IC/US stuff.

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 04:40 PM
pffffffffffffffffft, besides Kurt Angle, has any real maineventer held the TNA title?

Destor
12-15-2008, 06:52 PM
Sting

BigDaddyCool
12-15-2008, 07:23 PM
Sting hasn't been a real main eventer since WCW collapsed.

JT
12-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Sting hasn't been a real main eventer since WCW collapsed.

In that same logic, you can say Sting hasn't really been a wrestler since WCW collapsed.

JT
12-15-2008, 07:33 PM
Really, I'll be honest...does any World Championship matter. I mean Jeff Hardy won the WWE Championship last night, and I still don't care. It might have something to do with the shitty looking belt encrusted with diamonds, the spinning WWE logo, and the world "Champion" being shortened to "Champ", or maybe something to do with the shitty, overdone wrestling matches. But hey that's me...

EDIT: I know I'm going on a rant here, but you people are arguing that one fake championship means more than another fake championship. I bet if this conversation went from "Does the ECW Championship mean as much as the WWE Championship" to "Does the WWE Championship mean anything", you would realize you are bitching about apples and oranges.

Jeritron
12-15-2008, 07:34 PM
By that logic, you could argue that nobody's been a main eventer since the boom period ended.

thedamndest
12-15-2008, 08:07 PM
World Championships matter to the extent that if you have one or are feuding for one you are probably on tv, and if so good for you, but other than that their prestige has been done away with the fact that there are three of them for one company.

Funky Fly
12-15-2008, 08:18 PM
Where's that McDonalds championship? I bet if I won that I'd get more respect than the ECW champ. No knock against the title itslef, but WWE treats it like the IC Title at best.

Theo Dious
12-16-2008, 12:21 AM
I just want to say, the ECW Title is more credible as a World Title than the TNA Title since it's been bereft of the NWA status. And seriously, ever since the McMahon run and Lashley's stripping, the ECW Title has been a decent belt. Yes, even Henry's run was not entirely without merit.

Rob
12-16-2008, 12:55 AM
Argue all you want but Matt Hardy is a legit world wrestling champion. TNA had the NWA title when it meant nothing and nobody said that their champion wasn't a world champion. Matt Hardy also defends a "world title" across the world. Something that a hell of a lot of other wrestling world champs can't say they have done.

Juan
12-16-2008, 01:30 AM
Argue all you want but Matt Hardy is a legit world wrestling champion. TNA had the NWA title when it meant nothing and nobody said that their champion wasn't a world champion. Matt Hardy also defends a "world title" across the world. Something that a hell of a lot of other wrestling world champs can't say they have done.

Rob knows

Fignuts
12-16-2008, 02:04 AM
I love the "no detours" thing. Because losing your job, losing your push, getting handed the world and blowing it certainly wouldn't count as a detour.

But KooSH is right. The ECW is no less valid than The HHH and John Cena championships.


I think he meant "deterred".

Volare
12-16-2008, 08:59 AM
Sorry for the Jeff Hardy marks, (I know I'm one too.) But who thinks Jeff will lose the belt at the Royal Rumble, or No Way Out.

Right now, I want to say NWO, then he's gonna get pissed about losing, and cut a promo about how he wants the WWE title back and blah blah blah. Then get into the MITB match and win, then cash it in on some random day and we'll see what happens.

Theo Dious
12-16-2008, 11:39 PM
I'd like to think that the whole reason Edge won the title from HHH is so that Jeff can finally beat HHH for the belt at Wrestlemania. I think this run will be short for Jeff, but that it's the dry run to see if he can take the weight on his shoulders before they hand it over to him on the big stage.

Theo Dious
12-16-2008, 11:40 PM
Argue all you want but Matt Hardy is a legit world wrestling champion. TNA had the NWA title when it meant nothing and nobody said that their champion wasn't a world champion. Matt Hardy also defends a "world title" across the world. Something that a hell of a lot of other wrestling world champs can't say they have done.

Seriously... the TNA title has left the USA like, what, one time?

BigDaddyCool
12-17-2008, 11:54 AM
Seriously... the TNA title has left Florida like, what, 3 time?

BigDaddyCool
12-17-2008, 12:00 PM
Follow up question, for a title to be a world title, which is more important, to be defended across the world, or for the competitors holding and or challenging for the belt to be of multiple nationalities? I.E. If just say Americans fought for the title in its history, but it was done all across the world, or if people of any nationality fought for the title, but it was soley done in America, which would more of a world championship?

Lock Jaw
12-17-2008, 12:05 PM
A World Title has nothing to do with actually being "world". It is the company's top titles. In WWE, this is the WWE AND the World Title. While the ECW Title, despite being called a "world title" is not treated as such. So within the confines of its own company, it is not as legit.

Rob
12-17-2008, 06:11 PM
Follow up question, for a title to be a world title, which is more important, to be defended across the world, or for the competitors holding and or challenging for the belt to be of multiple nationalities? I.E. If just say Americans fought for the title in its history, but it was done all across the world, or if people of any nationality fought for the title, but it was soley done in America, which would more of a world championship?

For me, a world title has to be a real title. I don't really give a shit about a wrestling prop but for argument sake, I'm more impressed when it's defended in more places than Nashville and Orlando. I'm also more impressed when it's not a glorified indy title defended infront of 600 members of the trench coat mafia who hate everything remotely popular outside of their jerk circle.

What Would Kevin Do?
12-17-2008, 06:48 PM
I'd have to say both are important, but I'd say that defending it against wrestler's of other countries is more important. A world title defended only against people from America, but defended around the world is still rather exclusive. Likewise, if you defend it against peeps from other countries, but your belt has no exposure outside of America, same thing.

Ultimately, most "World Titles" are simply the highest title of a company/brand. On that note, TNA's is a joke.

Jeritron
12-17-2008, 07:43 PM
A world title is a title with granted world title status. It's not up for debate among fans. The ECW World Title is a title because the WWE and the industry consider it to be so, it is called such, and is defended among the world. It's the highest ranking title in it's "promotion" since there are brands.

We can choose to acknowledge this in our own worlds or not, but it's a world title. It's as much of a world title as the original ECW title was. I'm not saying I like it more, but it is.
It's also as much of a world title as TNA or ROH. Same views apply.

St. Jimmy
12-17-2008, 07:45 PM
http://www.midwestwrestling.com/Images%2015/2007_0730McDonalds0023_A.jpg

What Would Kevin Do?
12-17-2008, 10:12 PM
A world title is a title with granted world title status. It's not up for debate among fans. The ECW World Title is a title because the WWE and the industry consider it to be so, it is called such, and is defended among the world. It's the highest ranking title in it's "promotion" since there are brands.

We can choose to acknowledge this in our own worlds or not, but it's a world title. It's as much of a world title as the original ECW title was. I'm not saying I like it more, but it is.
It's also as much of a world title as TNA or ROH. Same views apply.

Psh, how do you expect to be taken seriously when you compare the TNA title to... anything.

XL
12-17-2008, 11:51 PM
Well the original ECW Title wasn't considered a "World Title" until Shane Douglas won the NWA Title (and subsequently threw it down declaring the ECW Title as a World Title).

Therefore, if you consider the old ECW Title as a "World" belt you surely must have to extend the same courtesy to the NWA Title when TNA used it (and thus the TNA World Championship as it stands now).

Personally, I don't consider the ECW Title in it's current form to be a "World Title" and I don't think many others around here did until Matt Hardy mentioned it as such.

Juan
12-18-2008, 12:44 AM
WWE recognizes all the guys in the original ECW to be former champions, so to me, as shitty as it's been booked at times, the current ECW title has always been a world title.

Theo Dious
12-18-2008, 01:17 AM
Incidentally I think we should consider that "World" status stopped being an official and governable status for a title when wrestling stopped being a sport and became sports entertainment. When it was a sport, "World" status was subject to sporting review boards, now it's subject to creative teams.

KingofOldSchool
12-18-2008, 01:28 AM
For me, a world title has to be a real title. I don't really give a shit about a wrestling prop but for argument sake, I'm more impressed when it's defended in more places than Nashville and Orlando. I'm also more impressed when it's not a glorified indy title defended infront of 600 members of the trench coat mafia who hate everything remotely popular outside of their jerk circle.

Exactly.

And that's why the ECW Title is more legit than TNA and ROH title's.

Kane Knight
12-18-2008, 09:11 AM
Exactly.

And that's why the ECW Title is more legit than TNA and ROH title's.

That's like saying "And that's why John Wayne Gacy was a better man than Osama Bin Laden."

Jeritron
12-18-2008, 08:20 PM
Not really

Kane Knight
12-18-2008, 08:49 PM
Well, I certainly find your rebuttal to be reasoned and logical...

Jeritron
12-18-2008, 09:11 PM
Just don't have the energy to get into it, but its not really comprable

Juan
12-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Well, I certainly find your rebuttal to be reasoned and logical...

About as logical and reasonable as your initial comparison.

Jeritron
12-18-2008, 09:21 PM
It's fallacy

Fox
12-18-2008, 10:08 PM
The ECW Championship is on par with the Intercontinental and United States Championships. I don't give a damn if they do occasionally refer to it as a World Title, it's not anywhere near the prestige or respect of the World Heavyweight or WWE Championship belts.

According to the logic of some here, it's a World Title because the WWE said it's a World Title. Since when did that mean anything?

Look at the level of talent that goes after the ECW Title: Mark Henry, Kane, Finlay, Matt Hardy... it's a freakin' mid-card title, no matter what they say.

Matt can delude himself and say that he and his brother are both World Champions, and to some extent it's true, but he knows, we know, and everyone else knows that Matt Hardy's championship status is not on par with that of John Cena or Jeff Hardy, atm.

Nark Order
04-12-2009, 11:43 PM
Do you think his recent push complete with wins over his brother and new ring attire is actually going to go somewhere? Honestly, he is looking pretty legit now. I know he's been hitting the gym to try to complete his new image and I hope he gets a bit more cut. He's one of those guys that has always been solid in the ring and can hold his own on the mic (granted he still needs a bit more work on the stick). He isn't afraid to go for the big spots but doesn't need to rely on them to have a good match. Is it possible that he'll ever get a main event push or do you see him staying under the glass ceiling forever?

Xero
04-12-2009, 11:46 PM
He'll always be second to Jeff. Upper carder for sure, even fill-in main event feuds for down times, but I never see him getting much more than a token title run.

sulzerdrone
04-12-2009, 11:47 PM
Upper mid-card 4 life!

Nark Order
04-12-2009, 11:49 PM
Yeah, I tend to agree but I still don't exactly know why. He is a better mic worker than his brother and is overall better in the ring. Jeff has charisma in a different way and has the "everyman" look going for him but I'll never understand why fans attach to him so much in comparison to Matt. More spots?

sulzerdrone
04-12-2009, 11:55 PM
As far as I'm concerned, They're both good, but lack that untangible "it" factor. Above average, but just.

Xero
04-12-2009, 11:56 PM
Jeff has "It". Matt doesn't.

Mr. Nerfect
04-13-2009, 12:04 AM
To me, it seems that the WWE seems to sway back and forth on which Hardy brother they really want to push. It looks like one gets themselves into such a good position, and the other is so far behind that there's no way they can catch up, and then boom -- suddenly the other one is moving up and the other is staying stoic.

I'm not going to say that Matt Hardy has "it." Hardy is the better of the two, though, no doubt in my mind. Matt can cut a better promo, can play a better character, and is a better worker and more reliable talent overall. Matt Hardy has all the tools to be a World Champion in the WWE -- at least on paper.

I'm sort of hoping that we get the World Heavyweight Title match of Edge vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Christian vs. Matt Hardy at WrestleMania 26.

Jeritron
04-13-2009, 12:06 AM
Raw.

Jeritron
04-13-2009, 12:07 AM
Even though the fued might blow-off for a while, I don't think it's over. I think they'll continue to have altercations occasionally, and eventually the "unfinished business" will come to a head.
I think having Matt align himself with Edge somewhere down the line is where it should go.

Xero
04-13-2009, 12:07 AM
You know, once Jeff goes over in this feud Matt will be back down to where he was before, anyway.

thedamndest
04-13-2009, 12:11 AM
So far Matt has shown that he is capable of being a face or a heel to Jeff's face. He still has a way to go in finding what kind of a heel he is going to be and establishing himself outside of "I'm angry because I hate Jeff Hardy" but I think he's got potential. They booed him as Matt Hardy Version One, so there's no reason that, provided he steps up his mic skills and go over credible faces, he won't continue his momentum. He's got some time in the company, and because he started so young, he has that cross-over appeal to new fans and fans who have been watching since the Attitude Era.

I don't see a main event push happening soon, but there also isn't any need for one. Just keep building him and he can get there in time. There will be a lot of vacancies happening soon. Matt might not be one of the first guys that springs to mind to fill them, but he can be with the right booking.

Mr. Nerfect
04-13-2009, 12:11 AM
Nah, I think the heel turn and slight make-over has moved Matt Hardy up to filler main event heel status for at least a while. I don't think we'll see US Champ Matt Hardy or ECW Champ Matt Hardy anytime soon.

Matthew is one of the names I hear often thrown out as a potential winner of this year's King of the Ring tournament, if they do it. Truthfully, he might be the one to get the most out of it. It can serve as an achievement that keeps Matt's head above water, even when his booking doesn't.

Nark Order
04-13-2009, 12:26 AM
Well, I think if they did it right, Matt's "Black Cloud" gimmick could do for Matt what the "Rated R Superstar" gimmick did for Edge. They'd have to build him to be a legitimate buzzkill though. I could just see it "Cena had the match won and then the Black Cloud came looming overhead!". Cena is probably a bad example as Matt won't be going over him anytime soon but I could see it working well. A face is gaining momentum and then the Black Cloud comes in as the buzzkill.

mike adamle
04-13-2009, 12:27 AM
i think if he wants a world title he needs to change his look. his wrestling isn't bad at all, his mic work is at very least par, but he just looks like shit, no homo, to be honest. not samoa joe bad, but he's packing on the pounds lately, and that's not gonna get him a title

Xero
04-13-2009, 12:29 AM
"Cena had the match won and then the Black Cloud came looming overhead!".

LOL, I read that in my head to the voice that does the "This Day in WWE History"/WrestleMania Flashback segments. That would be an epic video package, especially if it was done in the Attitude Era style.

Juan
04-13-2009, 12:29 AM
Draft Matt to Raw. Book Matt vs. HBM

Nark Order
04-13-2009, 12:31 AM
Draft Matt to Raw. Book Matt vs. HBM

Mr. Nerfect
04-13-2009, 12:31 AM
Matt would probably look more threatening if he cut his hair. A guy's hair can be very important to him when it gets to a certain length, but Hardy seems so devoted to playing this character. I almost expect Matt Hardy to show up with a crew-cut soon. I mean, why switch to proper wrestling tights? He's getting more serious, and wants to be able to move more freely in the ring. Why keep long hair when it can dangle in front of face, impairing vision, and can be pulled by an opponent, giving them an advantage over you?

At first I didn't think Matt would change too much about his appearance. I mean, he basically just said "I don't like Jeff." There's no reason for that to change him. But he seems to be tying turning on his fan favourite brother with getting a more focused career going for himself. Bring on the haircut.

Mr. Nerfect
04-13-2009, 12:32 AM
I'd just like to say that back in 2003, even when Australia didn't get SmackDown!, I was so ready for the prospect of a "Thuganomics vs. Mattitude" feud. That is all.

Nark Order
04-13-2009, 12:46 AM
LOL, I read that in my head to the voice that does the "This Day in WWE History"/WrestleMania Flashback segments. That would be an epic video package, especially if it was done in the Attitude Era style.

LOL, now I can't stop thinking about it being done in the voice.

Jeritron
04-13-2009, 01:10 AM
You know, once Jeff goes over in this feud Matt will be back down to where he was before, anyway.

Really, because all signs point to the fued having it's blow-off, at least for the forseeable future, last week when Matt won for the second time.

Mr. Nerfect
04-13-2009, 01:28 AM
I think one of the Hardys will end up on RAW. Giving how much merchandise he moves, I think it could be Jeff Hardy. They could keep the feud going on Superstars, which can feature interpromotional matches, or something.

Shadow
04-13-2009, 01:38 AM
Matt Hardy beats John Cena for the WHC at Mania 27.

Mr. Nerfect
04-13-2009, 01:42 AM
Matt Hardy beats Edge, Christian and Jeff Hardy to walk out of WrestleMania 26 World Heavyweight Champion (not the main event).

RP
04-13-2009, 02:35 AM
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Nark Order
04-13-2009, 10:38 AM
I also wouldn't mind seeing the Twist of Hate again

Innovator
04-13-2009, 10:40 AM
I think he needs to get rid of the long hair, and the theme music, new theme for a more serious Matt

Nicky Fives
04-13-2009, 11:12 AM
i think if he wants a world title he needs to change his look. his wrestling isn't bad at all, his mic work is at very least par, but he just looks like shit, no homo, to be honest. not samoa joe bad, but he's packing on the pounds lately, and that's not gonna get him a title

you have a dumb name, but hit the nail right on the head

Rammsteinmad
04-13-2009, 01:12 PM
I'd love to see him get a legit main event push, but it'll never happen. :(

thedamndest
04-13-2009, 01:12 PM
I don't think his name is that bad, nick55555555555555555555555555555555555.

mike adamle
04-13-2009, 02:48 PM
namecalling hurts my feelings

GD
04-13-2009, 02:51 PM
Matt Hardy is going to overcome all the odds and make his way to the main event.

The Optimist
04-13-2009, 03:40 PM
Twist of Hate? Genius.

Nark Order
04-13-2009, 06:59 PM
Twist of Hate? Genius.

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Xero
04-13-2009, 10:33 PM
Really, because all signs point to the fued having it's blow-off, at least for the forseeable future, last week when Matt won for the second time.

LOL, yeah, the feud's over. Okay.

GD
07-07-2009, 02:30 PM
July 6, 2009 - Monday

Well, since the news is out.. Let me buzz you all on something.. (P.S. update 7/7)
Well guys and gals, since the news has been leaked all over the 'net, I figured I should go ahead and address it truthfully. Yes, the rumors are true, I had some major surgery a couple of day ago. The triple threat match against MVP and Kofi in Green Bay was the straw that broke the camel's back. In a few days, I'm gonna blog on my WWE Universe page and fill everyone in on everything.
But here's a little taste of how tough and annoying the last 2 years of my life has been. For two years, I've been working with a slight abdominal tear, a genetic defect that I was actually born with. Even though we torture ourselves every night in that ring for each of your guy's entertainment.. But don't get me wrong, we love it and chose to do it. The tear hasn't been anything that has really over-affected me performance-wise.. Until.. My appendectomy. From when I returned in April 2008, my abdominal tear became gradually worse. I was having a U.S. Title run I was very proud of.. So I sucked it up! I became the ECW Champion, and was having one of the best runs of my career, and the abdominal injury really started bothering me.. So I sucked it up! I wanted to get it fixed before it got really bad.. BUT.. I had an issue with Jeff on TV which would ultimately lead us to wrestling one another at THE show of all shows, Wrestlemania. So I sucked it up and got through it! Basically, in a nutshell, my intestines were slowly tearing through my abdomen.. Which affected my training greatly, my in-ring work, and my physical appearance. My intestines were slowly swelling because they were all outta wack and protruding through my abdominal wall. But I sucked it up and gave everything I had. I haven't been able to do a sit-up in two years. And as I totally expected, The lil "wanna be cool guys" that feel like bad-asses behind a keyboard LOVED to make comments about my weight gain because I was being lazy. Little did they know, or yet probably even care, that I've stayed constantly frustrated that I was dealing with these serious complications. Honestly, I only care about the personal friends and family that I have, that know my true deal.. It's only their opinions I take serious and to heart. Anybody who writes about me, whether good or bad, but especially bad.. I couldn't care less. I just say thanks for keeping me in the news.
The night in Green Bay, when Kofi gave me a cross body from the top rope, my intestines exploded out through my abdominal wall.. And not just in one spot, but in two spots. I had to have it fixed, or face major health problems.. Problems that could have killed me. So as always, I do what's good for me, my career, friends, and loved ones. Hateful, ignorant comments made on the world wide web certainly doesn't bothered me-but sometimes give me a good laugh.. And my world is a world those people will never experience.
I can actually get into the shape I wanna be in now.. Very excited about that. It's sushi time peeps, I'll be back soon to blog for guys again. Be well, and until then..

P.S.-"Anybody who writes about me, whether good or bad, but especially bad.. I couldn't care less. I just say thanks for keeping me in the news." Guys and gals, this quote is directed toward internet writers, haters, and bogus pro wrestling journalism-no one loves & respects their TRUE casual fans more than I do! Anyone who has met me over the course of the last 15 years knows that. So basically, when a "keyboarder" looks to be "witty" by making a joke surrounding myself of Jeff, I'm indifferent towards it. Same goes for any supposed "pro wrestling expert" who compliments me.. It's nice to hear, but it's not anything I take too seriously. I'm all about making my true fans happy, along with my peers and superiors at work-because they're the people that keep me in business. And I will always be gracious towards them because of that.

Quote of the day - "Everyone's gathered to idolize me" - King Of Leon, The Bucket

Matt

That's really some heavy shit right there. I hope he gets back soon. :(

Dorkchop
07-07-2009, 02:35 PM
That must have sucked to work through.

#BROKEN Hasney
07-07-2009, 02:37 PM
That lack of paragraphing was painful to read through.

So I sucked it up!

GD
07-07-2009, 02:39 PM
It's actually amazing to see how Matt rose from his mid carder "losing" jobber status when he was back on Smackdown for a while.

Afterlife
07-07-2009, 02:55 PM
New respect for Matt. Hope he comes back in top form.

GD
07-07-2009, 02:57 PM
Always been more of a Matt fan than Jeff. I'm seriously hoping to see him win the WWE Championship or the World Heavyweight title in the future.

RGWhat316
07-07-2009, 03:13 PM
Damn, that has to be painful what hes been going through. I wish him a speedy recovery and hope he can get back to 100%.

St. Jimmy
07-07-2009, 03:44 PM
tl;dr.

Nicky Fives
07-07-2009, 04:25 PM
sucks for him..... hope he recovers... but I'm not a fan.... but I'll suck it up and wish him the best....

DaBrasko
07-07-2009, 04:28 PM
But could he suck it up with a broke frick'n neck??

GD
07-07-2009, 04:57 PM
"Kofi, you bastard, I'm gonna make your life miserable!"

Xero
07-07-2009, 05:02 PM
Come see me in Ring of Honor! ROH!

James Steele
07-07-2009, 05:09 PM
But could he suck it up with a broken freakin' neck??

Fixed.

Dave Youell
07-07-2009, 06:12 PM
Well that explains the weight gain, got to respect all that.

Theo Dious
07-07-2009, 08:06 PM
Maybe this is also a bit of insight as to why Matt/Jeff at WM wasn't too thrilling. I hope they can go at it again someday when they're both closer to top form.

Afterlife
07-07-2009, 08:39 PM
It also explains why Matt gets up off the floor like a bow-legged old man.

Juan
07-07-2009, 08:39 PM
Well, he is bow-legged.

Mr. Nerfect
07-07-2009, 08:39 PM
I'm a big Matt Hardy fan. Over the past few years, we've seen Matthew Moore grow into a genuine ring general -- so here's hoping that when he body recovers, it can match his mental growth as a worker, and we can see a better-than-ever Hardy.

The time away will do Matt good, because I already feel his heel character is pretty stale. It got lost in the shuffle on RAW in a big way, and while he should have been used as a main event character there (he beat a man who was just WWE Champion at WrestleMania), the grip guys like Triple H, Randy Orton and Batista have on the show made that difficult. The man has already been US Champion, and was just the ECW Champion -- there's no reason for him to be challenging for the US Title again.

A return to SmackDown!, with Michael Hayes handling his direction, will be the best Hardy has been used in a while. Well, I think the most love will go into Matt's direction, and with his strong mind for the business, he'll be a highly entertaining part of SmackDown!.

Loose Cannon
07-07-2009, 10:18 PM
Come see me in Ring of Honor! ROH!

lol

Fox
07-07-2009, 11:16 PM
(scoff)

My intestines burst out of my abdominal wall three times this morning, and look at me. I'm fine.

[/Angle]

loopydate
07-08-2009, 10:28 AM
Even though I'm apparently not a real fan because I have a keyboard, I still wish Matt all the best, and I'm excited to see what he can come up with when he returns. He's one of the best ring generals in the industry even with his mobility hampered. At 100% - and with a big return push - there's no reason he can't finally reach legit main-event status.

Afterlife
07-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Even though I'm apparently not a real fan because I have a keyboard, I still wish Matt all the best, and I'm excited to see what he can come up with when he returns. He's one of the best ring generals in the industry even with his mobility hampered. At 100% - and with a big return push - there's no reason he can't finally reach legit main-event status.

I thought you didn't have time for teh internetz. :wave:

Jeritron
07-08-2009, 01:42 PM
Well that sucks for him. I can't get over how poorly spoken he is, and how he seems to think and speak like a 15 year old.
I think it's safe to say Matt Hardy isn't very bright, but hey, at least if he's reading this he couldn't care less!

Ol Dirty Dastard
07-08-2009, 01:52 PM
lol props to the guy for the effort but he comes off like a grade a douche.

Testicle
07-08-2009, 02:22 PM
Yea, I agree, he doesn't ever really come off as a nice guy, his blogs usaully end up in some rant about the IWC. Oh well, I still like the guy and want him to return in good shape.

James Steele
07-08-2009, 02:43 PM
Well, I imagine Matt Hardy got fed up with the IWC when they were cheering for his return only to call him a sell-out when he did return.

McLegend
07-08-2009, 02:58 PM
I still believe that entire thing was a work.

Hope he gets better.

loopydate
07-08-2009, 10:50 PM
I thought you didn't have time for teh internetz. :wave:

I don't have much. Mostly I don't have time for teh wrasslin, so I don't tend to post much.

Kane Knight
07-09-2009, 02:36 AM
lol props to the guy for the effort but he comes off like a grade school douche.

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 10:50 AM
Matt Hardy's speech on why he and Jeff are back together. The whole, he is my brother, and I'll stand up for him because he is my brother, even though the assface stole my dream.

I would like to see Matt beat up Jeff after this is all said and done again. Like Matt can team with Jeff, just stick together as a family when someone is attacking them, but other wise they are fighting amoungst themselves. I would enjoy that.

Indifferent Clox
08-20-2009, 10:58 AM
Good Ideas.

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 10:59 AM
Go away, Clox.

Indifferent Clox
08-20-2009, 11:03 AM
Yes , sir. :(

kareru
08-20-2009, 11:08 AM
i like how matt calls jeff, 'jeff hardy'
makes me lol everytime

kareru
08-20-2009, 11:09 AM
during matches i mean

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 11:15 AM
I think he is suppose to, wrestling is like a comic book. There are long running stories, but they make it so you can pick it up from anywhere and know who the characters are, so you constantly have to call each other by full names, even you siblings. I'm certain Owen called Bret, Bret Hart a lot.

#1-norm-fan
08-20-2009, 11:55 AM
I don't think he did actually...

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 11:56 AM
Shut up.

#1-norm-fan
08-20-2009, 12:01 PM
He called him "Hitman" a lot now that I think about it...

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 12:03 PM
Yeah...so anyhow, why aren't people saying I don't know what I'm talking about here?

#1-norm-fan
08-20-2009, 12:16 PM
Shut up.

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 12:23 PM
So do you not like what they did with Hardy?

Pardeep 619
08-20-2009, 01:07 PM
Have to watch what happens this week on Smackdown to see exactly how the whole thing gets played out.

BigDaddyCool
08-20-2009, 02:47 PM
They have a tag team match and win.

Mr. Nerfect
08-20-2009, 04:57 PM
It's good for business to have Matt Hardy as a face when Jeff leaves. There probably won't be much room for a further story between the two, but I don't see the point in having Jeff end his run in the WWE as Matt's enemy.

Lord-Of-Darkness
08-20-2009, 04:59 PM
So they are feuding, but putting aside thier differences to team up for now?
Sounds like Taker/Kane all over again in a sense.

Ah well, wrestling swings in roundabouts doesn't it.

And yes, I do like what they are doing with Matt

Lock Jaw
08-20-2009, 10:30 PM
I don't remember Matt making a speech on the show.

Kami Raki
08-20-2009, 11:30 PM
I'd rather them bring back Matt's "Will not die" character or even Version 1.

DAMN iNATOR
08-21-2009, 09:56 AM
It's good for business to have Matt Hardy as a face when Jeff leaves. There probably won't be much room for a further story between the two, but I don't see the point in having Jeff end his run in the WWE as Matt's enemy.

They could just have it be like Jeff taking some sort of serious "career-ending injury" in Sunday's match due to Jeff Hardy, because Matt wanted a measure of revenge for the tables match injury to his arm...that way, Matt not only becomes a heel, but Punk gets a lengthy title run before passing it off to whatever face guy, who eventually, down the road becomes embroiled in a long, bitter, feud with Matt leading up to WM 26, where Matt could win his first World title. Or something. Just thinking out loud here.

James Steele
08-21-2009, 11:22 AM
:lol: @ Matt headlining WrestleMania

BigDaddyCool
08-21-2009, 11:33 AM
I don't remember Matt making a speech on the show.

That is because it happens tonight. I was there for the taping and I don't bother with spoiler warnings.

Mr. Nerfect
08-21-2009, 12:49 PM
They could just have it be like Jeff taking some sort of serious "career-ending injury" in Sunday's match due to Jeff Hardy, because Matt wanted a measure of revenge for the tables match injury to his arm...that way, Matt not only becomes a heel, but Punk gets a lengthy title run before passing it off to whatever face guy, who eventually, down the road becomes embroiled in a long, bitter, feud with Matt leading up to WM 26, where Matt could win his first World title. Or something. Just thinking out loud here.

I'd rather Matt stay a face right now. Maybe they are planning to turn him heel, but SmackDown! is more hurting for faces than it is heels. Yes, you have The Undertaker and The Great Khali on the wings on the face side, but those guys aren't as dependable on a consistent schedule as your John Morrisons and healthy Matt Hardys are. There is still a lot of money to be made off Hardy merchandise, and I sense the WWE are trying to swing a lot of Jeff supporters to Matt before Jeffrey leaves.

If they turn Matt on Jeff, then they don't even try with Matt as a top face. Plus, I feel it dilutes Punk's win a little. If he single-handedly takes out Jeff Hardy -- can you imagine the fans? They will be rabid. It makes Punk look like a force, and all you need to do is have Matt Hardy come out after the match to check on his brother, and Punk smirk at him. Maybe a backstage meeting between Matt and Punk, where Matt wishes Punk luck, because he's going to need it.

It sets up Punk's next feud beautifully. I think people would buy right into Matt Hardy getting revenge for Jeff, and then you can turn Matt heel if it doesn't work.

St. Jimmy
08-21-2009, 02:42 PM
I would use Matt Hardy at every WWE event. He would be the guy who parks your cars and fetches coffee.

#1-norm-fan
08-21-2009, 03:12 PM
I like what they're doing with Hardy cause it's out of the ordinary. I really dont think they can go wrong whether they keep him face or turn him heel again. A lot of good can come out of either scenario.

Londoner
08-21-2009, 03:24 PM
I'lld rather matt stay face atm, heel matt bores me too much.

Gertner
08-22-2009, 01:42 AM
Somebody has been taking nutrition tips from Tommy Dreamer.

JT
08-22-2009, 01:47 AM
Dreamer has actually been quite in shape as of late, and as for Matt...he's a bit more pudgy but not bad.

Gertner
08-22-2009, 01:48 AM
Dreamer has actually been quite in shape as of late, and as for Matt...he's a bit more pudgy but not bad.

It was pretty noticeable.

Mr. Nerfect
08-22-2009, 02:04 AM
Didn't he just have surgery and start to train again? Plus he injuries were reportedly keeping him from working out as much as he would of liked. Maybe he's also doing that thing where you put on weight before you bulk up?

Funky Fly
08-22-2009, 03:19 AM
Didn't he just have surgery and start to train again? Plus he injuries were reportedly keeping him from working out as much as he would of liked. Maybe he's also doing that thing where you put on weight before you bulk up?

This.

Juan
08-22-2009, 03:24 AM
Didn't he just have surgery and start to train again? Plus he injuries were reportedly keeping him from working out as much as he would of liked. Maybe he's also doing that thing where you put on weight before you bulk up?

Yeah I remember reading something about that...

Londoner
08-22-2009, 03:49 AM
yeah i thought he looked bigger than normal.

Afterlife
08-22-2009, 08:14 AM
Yeah, I'd say he looked bigger, but he seemed to have less of a gut than before.

Anybody Thrilla
08-22-2009, 10:26 AM
I think he looks like, and always has looked like, a giant chode.

Nicky Fives
08-22-2009, 10:52 AM
I think he looks like, and always has looked like, a giant chode.

yup.... he always was a fat piece of garbage....

DarKCentaur
08-22-2009, 12:31 PM
Didn't Matt Hardy have like ab surgery or something? Of course he's gonna look fat after that

CSL
08-22-2009, 01:00 PM
Yeah, pretty sure ab workouts haven't been something Matt's been doing too often recently, given his injury

screech
08-22-2009, 01:10 PM
He needs a damn haircut

Afterlife
08-22-2009, 01:18 PM
He needs a damn haircut

This much I agree with. It's not 1992 anymore.

St. Jimmy
08-23-2009, 06:14 PM
Maybe he's just replacing food with talent. Oh wait, he never had talent.

kareru
08-25-2009, 03:33 PM
dayum mat hardy got faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayut

SaskatchewanChamp
04-23-2010, 01:09 PM
I took a look at the news boards this morning and saw a story about Matt Hardy. In it, as most of you probably know already, Matt makes some interesting tweets. All be it Matt has played games with the IWC a couple of times, I feel this time he is saying what is on his heart. Personally, I don't see Matt sticking around the WWE any longer than he has to, and I don't see why the WWE would keep him around. He hasn't been involved in a storyline with any significance in quite a while and all signs point to that trend continuing. So with all the "spring cleaning" the WWE has done this week, do you feel Matt is on his way out?

DaBrasko
04-23-2010, 01:12 PM
Could explain why they keep working the head injury angle with him.

kareru
04-23-2010, 01:15 PM
i posted this in the other thread....but anyway

WWE released seven wrestlers yesterday, and there could be more. Matt Hardy made the following comments on his Twitter, which considering the releases, are very interesting…

"Good night everyone. To those who support me & are in my corner, I thank you eternally. If you're not.. then you're just just..not. HAHA!"

"Don't take any of this the wrong way.. I am more motivated than ever! I'm at a point in life where nothing bad can happen to me career-wise."

“After 13 title reigns during my WWE career, I’ve more than exceeded what anyone ever expected from me-& I’m optimistic there’s more to come.”

“But I truly feel that I’ll actually have more to offer to the industry with my mind than I could physically with my body in the long run..

“I have alot of projects going on currently.. But I love pro wrestling & it will always be in my blood. Always. It’s given me a great life.”

“You guys give me the motivation to push on with or without the help of the “machine”.. I pride myself on being the “Self-Made Superstar”

It’s no secret that Shannon Moore, Jeff Hardy, and others have been trying to get Matt to leave WWE for TNA for quite some time now. It should also be noted that it’s two completely different atmospheres backstage. Many people in TNA are happy to go to work (likely due to the lesser travel schedule and the fact that Dixie Carter runs things in a ‘mellow’ way) while people within WWE are fed up and have been for a long time now.

Jordan
04-23-2010, 01:35 PM
Matt Hardy is a fucking mark, what a stupid stiff backed person.

Nicky Fives
04-23-2010, 01:56 PM
good riddance.....

BollywoodSingh
04-23-2010, 02:09 PM
I lost all respect for Matt Hardy after the Lita-Edge thing in 2005 but he would be a good pick up for TNA for sure.

Innovator
04-23-2010, 02:17 PM
Speaking of releasing, he already did because he let himself go a while ago

Damian Rey
04-23-2010, 02:18 PM
I think Matt's future was sealed after Mania 25. I mean, he finally turns heel on Jeff. Goes over at Mania, gets drafted to Raw, (I beleive) gets hurt, and his heel turn is aborted and never remembered again.

He's done nothign of significance since, which is sad in a way, as he was one of their more solid in ring talents, and has somehow remained over with the crowd despite being stale for over a year.

The best thing for Matt right now may be to get a release. He's not going anywhere anymore. He hit his peak, and it was wasted, sure, but he's gone nowhere but down, with slight blips on the radar here and there. He needs a new start.

If he does indeed get released, the first thing he needs to do is take some time off and lose some weight. Let him get into ring shape, and see where it goes from there.

tjmidnight420
04-23-2010, 02:32 PM
I think Matt's future was sealed after Mania 25. I mean, he finally turns heel on Jeff. Goes over at Mania, gets drafted to Raw, (I beleive) gets hurt, and his heel turn is aborted and never remembered again.

He's done nothign of significance since, which is sad in a way, as he was one of their more solid in ring talents, and has somehow remained over with the crowd despite being stale for over a year.

The best thing for Matt right now may be to get a release. He's not going anywhere anymore. He hit his peak, and it was wasted, sure, but he's gone nowhere but down, with slight blips on the radar here and there. He needs a new start.

If he does indeed get released, the first thing he needs to do is take some time off and lose some weight. Let him get into ring shape, and see where it goes from there.

My thoughts exactly

Cuse8
04-23-2010, 02:38 PM
could they release him tho with him being on NXT right now without making it look awkward?

Maybe say something like his head injuries are forcing him to take him off and then give Gabriel a different pro?

What Would Kevin Do?
04-23-2010, 02:39 PM
could they release him tho with him being on NXT right now without making it look awkward?

Maybe say something like his head injuries are forcing him to take him off and then give Gabriel a different pro?

I would not be surprised if they did that and gave Gabriel Bourne as a pro.

Supreme Olajuwon
04-23-2010, 02:53 PM
God what happened to the Hardy Boyz? Remember when they were the darlings of pro wrestling? Now look at them. Jeff's a drugged up shithead and Matt's an arrogant cocksucker. Real shame.

Kane Knight
04-23-2010, 02:56 PM
God what happened to the Hardy Boyz? Remember when they were the darlings of pro wrestling? Now look at them. Jeff's a drugged up shithead and Matt's an arrogant cocksucker. Real shame.

Smarks and marks are fickle.

jskinnyg
04-23-2010, 03:15 PM
Speaking of releasing, he already did because he let himself go a while ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

KIRA
04-23-2010, 03:17 PM
I think Matt's future was sealed after Mania 25. I mean, he finally turns heel on Jeff. Goes over at Mania, gets drafted to Raw, (I beleive) gets hurt, and his heel turn is aborted and never remembered again.

He's done nothing of significance since, which is sad in a way, as he was one of their more solid in ring talents, and has somehow remained over with the crowd despite being stale for over a year.

The best thing for Matt right now may be to get a release. He's not going anywhere anymore. He hit his peak, and it was wasted, sure, but he's gone nowhere but down, with slight blips on the radar here and there. He needs a new start.

If he does indeed get released, the first thing he needs to do is take some time off and lose some weight cut his hair cause its not coming back Let him get into ring shape, and see where it goes from there.

fixed it

Damian Rey
04-23-2010, 03:25 PM
fixed it

:lol: I wished you would've put the fixed text in bold so I didn't have to read the entire post wondering what was added.

That is a good point though, Kira. His look has gotten stale as well. I mean, the tight pants would've worked if he weren't rolling over them. But his hair is atrocious.

Cuse8
04-23-2010, 03:56 PM
I would not be surprised if they did that and gave Gabriel Bourne as a pro.

that would be excellent

Wishbone
04-23-2010, 03:57 PM
this may sound mean but I hope WWE does release him so TNA can pick him up I mean a Hardy Boyz reunion would definatly be an interesting deal for TNA althow I do agree with the earlier posts stating that Matt should lose some weight first

Damian Rey
04-23-2010, 04:12 PM
this may sound mean but I hope WWE does release him so TNA can pick him up I mean a Hardy Boyz reunion would definatly be an interesting deal for TNA althow I do agree with the earlier posts stating that Matt should lose some weight first

Meh. The Hardy thing has been so over done that its lost its flavor, IMO. Not to say it wouldn't garner some attention, but it'd be for the short term at most. Also, Jeff is a much better draw as a singles competitor for TNA, right now. Dragging Matt's dead weight around would do nothing for the company.

If Matt does go to TNA, which is likely if he gets let go, he needs to reinvent himself completely. I mean, a whole makeover. It's hard to care for or reestablish any feelings towards a character that hasn't evolved for such a long period of time.

Matt getting released could be a great oppurtunity to retool his character and reconnect with the fan base.

Xero
04-23-2010, 04:13 PM
No. No Hardyz reunion. If Matt goes to TNA it should be as an agent. Jeff needs the spotlight because he's honestly one of TNA's biggest possible draws, and bringing Matt in will only mess things up.

kareru
04-23-2010, 04:14 PM
Meh. The Hardy thing has been so over done that its lost its flavor, IMO. Not to say it wouldn't garner some attention, but it'd be for the short term at most. Also, Jeff is a much better draw as a singles competitor for TNA, right now. Dragging Matt's dead weight around would do nothing for the company.

If Matt does go to TNA, which is likely if he gets let go, he needs to reinvent himself completely. I mean, a whole makeover. It's hard to care for or reestablish any feelings towards a character that hasn't evolved for such a long period of time.

Matt getting released could be a great oppurtunity to retool his character and reconnect with the fan base.

Mattitude v.2?

Xero
04-23-2010, 04:14 PM
Meh. The Hardy thing has been so over done that its lost its flavor, IMO. Not to say it wouldn't garner some attention, but it'd be for the short term at most. Also, Jeff is a much better draw as a singles competitor for TNA, right now. Dragging Matt's dead weight around would do nothing for the company.

If Matt does go to TNA, which is likely if he gets let go, he needs to reinvent himself completely. I mean, a whole makeover. It's hard to care for or reestablish any feelings towards a character that hasn't evolved for such a long period of time.

Matt getting released could be a great oppurtunity to retool his character and reconnect with the fan base.
lol "retool"

Damian Rey
04-23-2010, 04:45 PM
Mattitude v.2?

No. That's a retread. And I'm not so sure it would work anymore. He's way beyond that at this point in his career. When I said makeover, I meant makeover.

He needs to add a completely new dimension to his character. Right now, if he hits the TNA roster, he's going to be doing the same exact thing he's been doing for the last 5 years or so.

He needs to do something different.

KIRA
04-23-2010, 05:03 PM
:lol: I wished you would've put the fixed text in bold so I didn't have to read the entire post wondering what was added.

That is a good point though, Kira. His look has gotten stale as well. I mean, the tight pants would've worked if he weren't rolling over them. But his hair is atrocious.


fixed the fix :)

Next Big Thing
04-23-2010, 05:07 PM
I lost all respect for Matt Hardy after the Lita-Edge thing in 2005 but he would be a good pick up for TNA for sure.

How do you lose respect for Matt after that? He was the one that got fucked over.

Other than that, Matt's a big fucking mark and needs to go away. I have no interest in seeing him on my t.v. He's the modern day Rick Steiner...

DLVH84
04-23-2010, 05:23 PM
I'd say he'll eventually be released.

Stealth-Icon
04-23-2010, 05:48 PM
Fatt Lardy can go away and never be seen on TV again. I will be happy.

Favre4Ever
04-23-2010, 06:32 PM
< Insert Matt Hardy fat joke here >

Krimzon7
04-23-2010, 06:37 PM
I thought Matt Hardy Died years ago.

Xero
04-23-2010, 06:37 PM
There have been nine Matt Hardys.

Cool King
04-23-2010, 06:42 PM
I thought Matt Hardy Died years ago.

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/884/884961/friday-wrestling-list-the-wwe-draft-20080627011222319.jpg

kareru
04-23-2010, 06:47 PM
http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/884/884961/friday-wrestling-list-the-wwe-draft-20080627011222319.jpg

wwe discontinued jeffs t-shirt

'stronger than meth?'

YOUR Hero
04-24-2010, 11:47 AM
There have been nine Matt Hardys.


LOL


...I mean shhhhh

The Pope
04-24-2010, 12:03 PM
Mattitude in TNA!?

Johnny Vegas
04-24-2010, 12:24 PM
Viva La Hardy!

kareru
04-24-2010, 12:37 PM
did you see matt hardy and drew mcintyre on SD?, 'twas awesome

FourFifty
04-24-2010, 12:39 PM
Speaking of releasing, he already did because he let himself go a while ago

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The Pope
06-05-2010, 08:59 PM
Matt Hardy was at it again on Twitter last night/this morning. Some of his more entertaining statements:

TURN ON SMACKDOWN NOW!! DON’T MISS IT.. Matthew Moore Hardy is about to be reborn in the WWE.

In response to someone asking if he was trying to get fired to go to TNA: I’ve been underutilized.. I don’t “need” the WWE, I have nothing to lose

In response to someone saying he had been ignored for too long: But I WILL NOT be ignored anymore-bet on it!

In response to someone asking if he prefers fans that “play along”: Deal is-there’s more reality than not on the stuff I’m saying & doing now on TV. Something has to change-either the WWE or me.

In response to a tweet saying “STFU you suck and your only claim to fame is being carried through the tag division by your junkie brother”: U would love to have my life-but u never will. U obviously care enough to read all my tweets but I’ll stop that-BLOCKED! HAHA!

In response to a suggestion that WWE using Drew McIntyre to get rid of him: Maybe so-but I’ve got a Twist Of Fate for VKM!

And to finish: It’s all of your support that keeps me ticking.. Thanks much. SD is in St. Louis tomorrow-let’s see what plane tickets are going 4 tonight.

Note from Ryan Clark: This guy acts like he’s 10 years old. Enough said.



*Nobody cares what Ryan Clark has to say

teamXtremist
06-05-2010, 09:05 PM
i think matts at the point in his career where he doesnt give a fuck what wwe thinks.Hes hit the ceiling of his wwe status and if hes released hell just go over to tna with his bro

Verbose Minch
06-05-2010, 09:05 PM
I wouldn't say he's tweeting his career away. WWE said they wanted superstars to use Twitter more, and Matt's speaking in reference to VKM suspending him. If anything, he's being smarter by building interest in the storyline outside of just people watching Smackdown.

CSL
06-05-2010, 09:06 PM
W.O.R.K

erickman
06-05-2010, 09:48 PM
I wouldn't say he's tweeting his career away. WWE said they wanted superstars to use Twitter more, and Matt's speaking in reference to VKM suspending him. If anything, he's being smarter by building interest in the storyline outside of just people watching Smackdown.

yeah pretty much if heat was real he would have joined his brother a long time ago in tna.

owenbrown
06-05-2010, 09:51 PM
W.O.R.K

this

Favre4Ever
06-05-2010, 09:55 PM
this is a work anyone who is being swayed by this shit is more retarded than Matt Hardy.

Favre4Ever
06-05-2010, 09:56 PM
who miraculously still has a job despite looking like a pregnant woman for the last 3+ years.

Tazz Dan
06-05-2010, 10:00 PM
Matt Hardy:

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5822/194769-matt_hardy_large.jpg

Pregnant Woman:

http://webmomsonline.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/young-pregnant-woman.jpg

Droford
06-05-2010, 10:01 PM
He should bring back the matt facts on twitter

Favre4Ever
06-05-2010, 10:02 PM
way to pick a non pregnant hardy picture.

Favre4Ever
06-05-2010, 10:03 PM
http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/jeff-hardy-vs-matt-hardy1.jpg&sa=X&ei=yQELTKSLBoHGlQe-vNT6DQ&ved=0CAQQ8wc4Cg&usg=AFQjCNGuTPAfeCzVjjGIMSaZZYPEl8qKOQ

Anybody Thrilla
06-05-2010, 10:03 PM
The first tweet saying "TURN ON SMACKDOWN NOW!!!!!" is a dead giveaway to Mr. Hardy's intentions. I actually think it's a good idea. When they can somehow 'blur' the lines, it makes things more interesting....even though this should have been obvious to everyone.

Tazz Dan
06-05-2010, 10:05 PM
way to pick a non pregnant hardy picture.

The picture was taken 4 months ago when apparently he was at his 'fattest'

Also, I am much more like a pregnant woman than Matt Hardy.

Favre4Ever
06-05-2010, 10:06 PM
"Matt has had his appendix removed and a tear in his abdominal wall this year, two surgeries. His abdominal muscles are not back in shape yet. Give him some time."

was the Yahoo! answers response to "pregnant Matt Hardy"

The Pope
06-05-2010, 10:06 PM
The title was simply put to draw your attention and I fooled all of you.

Anybody Thrilla
06-05-2010, 10:15 PM
Hey Dr.Perfect, did you know that the 1-2-3 Kid was actually X-Pac?

The Pope
06-05-2010, 10:19 PM
Is he really? I thought he was Sean Waltman.

Storer50
06-05-2010, 10:43 PM
Hey Dr.Perfect, did you know that the 1-2-3 Kid was actually X-Pac?

Liar He was Syxx. :rofl:

Fox
06-05-2010, 11:02 PM
Sean Puffy Syxx-Pac Kid Waltman.

Fox
06-05-2010, 11:09 PM
Maybe it's a work, maybe it's not.

I don't know if the WWE is actually inventive or creative enough to come up with a Twitter/online related storyline for Matt Hardy. I don't give them that much credit. I also find it hard to believe that they care enough about Matt Hardy as a character to go forward with such a thing.

James Steele
06-05-2010, 11:10 PM
Maybe it's a work, maybe it's not.

I don't know if the WWE is actually inventive or creative enough to come up with a Twitter/online related storyline for Matt Hardy. I don't give them that much credit. I also find it hard to believe that they care enough about Matt Hardy as a character to go forward with such a thing.

It is also possible that Matt took the initiative to do this whole thing. Hell, a lot of wrestlers are using Twitter now.

Anybody Thrilla
06-05-2010, 11:14 PM
It is also possible that Matt took the initiative to do this whole thing. Hell, a lot of wrestlers are using Twitter now.

Exactly. Wrestlers obviously know that a lot of fans are internet saavy. Social networking is just another vessel to further their characters. Kayfabe, much like Matt Hardy, will NOT die.

Fox
06-05-2010, 11:18 PM
I guess it wouldn't be the first time Matt has used the internet to create an angle for himself.

Still, on the subject of Hardy, he has done basically nothing since Jeff left. He really needs to find a new angle to his character and do something different. He's a great wrestler and a great heel when he has the right motives and the right character to play (Mattitude w/ Shannon Moore is still one of my favorite Smackdown angles). But just being Matt Hardy isn't going to cut it.

Anybody Thrilla
06-05-2010, 11:21 PM
I think the feud with McIntyre is fine so far. It hasn't had any 'wow' moments, but it's still fairly fresh. I'm interested to see where it goes, and that's the most positive thing I've said about something involving Matt Hardy in quite some time.

blak23
06-05-2010, 11:25 PM
v1 was the tits

Damian Rey
06-06-2010, 01:20 AM
Haven't caught much of the fued with Drew, but the fact that they're using him in an extended fued with a guy they are obviously building for the future is a good sign that the twitter account is a work, and that Matt's still viewed as a valuable asset to the company.

I agree with Fox that he does need some direction. The McIntyre thing is his first semi interesting fued in eons. His run with MVP was some of the best stuff going on SmackDown! at the time, before and after his injury. He needs something similar to that, that actually means something.

With that said, I've stated this before, but an extended period off for Matt Hardy would do him nothing but good. His heel turn was aborted, and he's basically running off the steam of being Matt Hardy, which, granted, is keeping him over, but at the same time is making him stale and hard to invest in. Some time off will allow him to heal up and get back into some decent shape, as well as give creative and Hayes some time to think of a possible new directions to help evolve Hardy's character.

Sycophant
06-06-2010, 03:01 AM
I think the real point to be made here is that it is Matt Hardy and nobody gives a shit. He stopped being relevant in the wrestling world a long time ago...every time he starts to get a push...they start jobbing him out to midcarders that are in the middle of a semi-push. Matt Hardy is a relatively big mid-card name that bridges the gap to a larger role.

daimoniac
06-06-2010, 08:28 AM
Liar He was Syxx. :rofl:

really? damn, and here's me thinking he was the lightening kid from GWF :lol:

NoRoolz
06-06-2010, 08:42 AM
Enough.

Mr. Nerfect
06-06-2010, 08:54 AM
Watching SmackDown!, I think this program with Drew McIntyre and Matt Hardy is working. Drew is getting some good heat, and the fans really want to see Hardy kick his ass. It's not the best thing on WWE TV right now, but it's nowhere near bad. I'd love it if Drew aired a segment where he went down to Florida and kicked Justin Gabriel's ass around the FCW arena as a way of getting to Hardy.

I'd eventually like to see this lead to an "unsanctioned Street Fight" at Fatal Four Way, with McIntyre just wanting to hurt Hardy, and perhaps a "if Hardy wins he's re-instated" stipulation. But yeah, the dude definitely needs more character. Something towards the Mattitude side of things would be appreciated. Even if he just brought back the Matt Facts and started pretentiously calling himself "Matthew Moore Hardy" would be an improvement, in my opinion.

Stickman
06-06-2010, 11:57 AM
I can honestly say, I've never been to twitter....thank god

Favre4Ever
06-06-2010, 12:05 PM
The only thing that bothers me about the feud is that it's clear that Hardy isn't going to go over. Which makes the angles they are running weird because it's set up in the old "heel does everything he can to avoid the face including getting him fired/removed from the show" fashion, which typically ends with a big comeback/beat the odds win for the face.

Wolfpack423
06-06-2010, 12:43 PM
I think Matt Hardy is an asshole. Alot of people like him but the way he comes across to me is just a guy that can't get past things and can't live with the fact that he'll never be as over as Jeff. I know the IWC loves Matt for some reason, but I never understood why. I mean his run in 2003 was great and when the Hardy Boyz were on fire in 2000-2001 I liked him. He will be in TNA at some point by the end of the year or show up early next year. I think, like Carlito, he is trying to get out of his contract in any way he can. I am not a Mattitude follower. His V1 character seems to be his true life persona. I know that was the only time I liked him but it just seems that is what he acts like.

YoungFlyFlashy
06-06-2010, 01:12 PM
WWE-Twitter Backstage Update, The Undertaker Is Alive!, More
By Ryan Clark on Sunday, June 6th, 2010 at 12:57 PM EST

– WWE continues to push for all its wrestlers to be on Twitter. In an update on this, there is a ground rule that any talk of wrestling has to be in-character. Matt Hardy, are you listening?!

– Mark Henry promoted the house show in Columbia, SC in an interview at aikenstandard.com. The main event features Edge vs. Chris Jericho in a street fight, as John Cena has a prior commitment.

– The following search terms were in the top 20 on Google last night after SmackDown!:
1. Did the Undertaker die?
2. What happened to The Undertaker?
4. Is the Undertaker dead?
6. Undertaker
15. Mark Calaway
16. Orbital bone
I told you all to Google it yesterday and DAMN did you ever!

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