OFFICIAL Hell in a Cell Discussion Thread

[Triple Naitch]

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/touts/feature/29062/11641966

Presented by Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash Up.

OKGO

[ministrychick77]

apparently an ambulance just went by the arena...

let's all hope for a Batista injury!!

[Londoner]

Will watch this on channelsurf if there isn't a better stream going round. Looks like a great card tbh.

[screech]

I love that it is presented by TMNT.

[Cuzziebro]

TL whats the link for channelsurf? Or another adequate stream on the internetz!!11

[Afterlife]

Over two hours early, boys.

[Londoner]

TL whats the link for channelsurf? Or another adequate stream on the internetz!!11

www.channelsurfing.net its near the bottom of the page titled 'hell in a cell' as you would expect!

[James Diesel]

What seems to be the best free place to watch it?

I'm in the middle of the usual Justin.tv hunt :shifty:

[Cuzziebro]

www.channelsurfing.net its near the bottom of the page titled 'hell in a cell' as you would expect!

Legend.
By the way I think this is a reasonable card, but then in saying that I wouldnt pay for it.

[Londoner]

Yeah i wouldn't pay for it either, but its a great card if you're watching for free!

[Cuzziebro]

Agreed.

[BobBitchen]

http://www.justin.tv/live_hd1

[Londoner]

^ that stream needs a password...

[James Diesel]

password = livehd

[Londoner]

AH ok.

[Sixx]

So how long till it starts?

[Sixx]

Oh wait... like 1:15, right?

[Londoner]

starts in an hour and 11 mins

[Sixx]

K, thanks. Forgot I'm exactly ET + 6:04 min.

[James Diesel]

So while we're waiting, is it safe to say that Randy Orton is like the Voldemort of WWE?

[Sixx]

Yes, we've already discussed that in the last PPV thread I believe.

[James Diesel]

Oh..... I wasn't there for that

Well just in case

http://23.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpqj0wOzVK1qa2ujso1_r2_500.jpg

[Sixx]

Oh..... I wasn't there for that

Well just in case

http://23.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpqj0wOzVK1qa2ujso1_r2_500.jpg

Nah, but really, try finding a pic with him being bald. The shorter haircut he sports the more he looks like that Voldemort guy.

[KYR]

I hope Mickie wins. :shifty:

[Afterlife]

I hope someone's recording the show, because I highly doubt I"m gonna make it.

[Droford]

I hope Mickie wins. :shifty:
I totally forgot she's facing Alicia Fox.

Id almost say give the belt to Alicia Fox for a while.

[Afterlife]

Like it matters?

[KYR]

Yes it matters.

Mickie with the title means more Mickie. :roll:

[The Gold Standard]

I am listening to the theme to pump me up for Truth v Drew

[Mantas]

Yes it matters.

Mickie with the title means more Mickie. :roll:

The title doesn't mean anything either way.... :shifty:

[Ermaximus]

Hello everyone. I guess I'll be joining you all this evening.

[Mantas]

Yeah I guess I'll be joining you as well.

[KYR]

http://www.wrestlingnewsdesk.com/WND/images/stories/story%20files/101308/MICKIE%20JAMES%20RED.jpg

[Londoner]

^ nice pic

the channelsurf streams working perfectly, only a few seconds behind

[Ermaximus]

KYR! That's hot!!! Thanks for sharing. Rep ++++!

[Londoner]

Have they changed the look of the cell to? ffs...

[Ermaximus]

Yea they sadly have. :/ Gotta make it kid friendly. Ok so bring on the Drew McIntyre beating R-Truth match already.

[James Diesel]

ARE THEY STARTING WITH PUNK V TAKER?!?!?!?

BOOOOOOOOO

[Droford]

Looks like Punk/Taker first?

[Londoner]

find it strange they're showing this stuff now....

[Ermaximus]

Hahaha that'd be some TNA booking there. Let's start with a main event!

[Ermaximus]

Shit, stream is down.

[Londoner]

They're secretely telling us Cena's match is the only real main event.

[Londoner]

Shit, stream is down.

mine aint.

[Ermaximus]

I found another one. :D

[Testicle]

Wow, are they starting off with the world heavyweight title?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So this means there will be a controversial finish in this match and we'll have another encounter between these two later tonight

[Ermaximus]

Holy shit. That almost looks like some 3 stages of hell type shit.

[Londoner]

I can not believe they're starting with this.

[James Diesel]

Great.....
They're opening with the best match of the night.....

This is just like No Way Out 09

[Theo Dious]

Looks like Punk/Taker first?

CM Punk: Jerking the curtain like he deserves to.

[Testicle]

I can not believe they're starting with this.

[Droford]

I wonder if that thing really weighs 10,000 lbs? It looks kinda light even for being so big.

[The Gold Standard]

I can't believe this is kicking off the show

[Ermaximus]

Kane run-in anyone?

[Theo Dious]

Kane run-in anyone?

We've kind of seen that before...

[Afterlife]

Wow. They're starting with the Main Event. Interesting strategy.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I wonder if it has something to do with Taker being broken down since his hip surgery.

[Droford]

So this means there will be a controversial finish in this match and we'll have another encounter between these two later tonight
Maybe Punk rips off Edge and beats up Orton and makes himself the challenger to Cena later on after he loses real fast to Taker.

[Ermaximus]

We've kind of seen that before...

True, but it wouldn't suprise me 1 bit if they do one last Taker/Kane fued before Taker says farewell.

[mike adamle]

If they don't do something like they did at No Way Out I'll be disappointed.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe Punk rips off Edge and beats up Orton and makes himself the challenger to Cena later on after he loses real fast to Taker.
I was thinking more like they'd do a spot where neither could continue the match and have to be stretchered out, but then they come back later and want to finish like men.

[FourFifty]

What the fuck? Punk/Taker first?

[Ermaximus]

Maybe Punk rips off Edge and beats up Orton and makes himself the challenger to Cena later on after he loses real fast to Taker.

That'd only work if there was a mid-card guy in the ME. IE if it was Cena/Dibiase or Cena/Miz. We'll call that the Kofi Kingston rule.

[Testicle]

I wonder if it has something to do with Taker being broken down since his hip surgery.

This is probably it.

[TGR]

Dont like CHampion entering first, even if he is facing the Undertaker.

C'mon!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I just realized how much Todd Grisham sounds like Coachman. Not all the time but sometimes it's dead on.

[Londoner]

ah fuck now it seems to be down.

[Londoner]

nope, its back.

[Ermaximus]

So he's going by that now? "The only straight-edge superstar in WWE history?" Is that something to be proud of?

[Ermaximus]

Fuck it keeps freezing.

[Londoner]

odds on seeing blood tonight?

[Droford]

odds on seeing blood tonight?

they'll probably save the blood for WWE: First Blood the PPV

[Sixx]

A working stream anyone?

[Ermaximus]

My guess is Orton or CAWDY!!!

[The Gold Standard]

I hate when you get the scare when the stream goes for a little

[Testicle]

I wonder if we will see blood tonight?

[James Diesel]

I'm definitely marking for half the crowd cheering on Punk

[Londoner]

hahaaha cm punk/undertaker chants

[FourFifty]

I thought i would never hear dual chant between Punk and The Undertaker.... I have hope for wrestling fans again.

[Ermaximus]

Wow at those chants. I'd say the crowd is 50/50 atm?

[Droford]

CM Punk!
Undertaker!
CM Punk!
Undertaker!
CM TAKER!

[TGR]

Dueling chants? Did I really just hear that?

[NeanderCarl]

Another stream here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/newestdubtv

[The Gold Standard]

I have no idea who I really want to win.

[Londoner]

Amazing how that 'steel' doesn't cut anyone open.

[Ermaximus]

Imagine if Cole was calling this match? "Vintage Undertaker with that leg drop!" :shifty:

[Theo Dious]

Smart of them to play up a Taker injury early on.

[Ermaximus]

Damn. He's working those knees big time.

[James Diesel]

beautiful chair shot

[FourFifty]

Aaaaaaaaaand my stream died.

[The Gold Standard]

Aaaaaaaaaand my stream died.

[James Diesel]

I'll admit I was fearful of that last ride

[Ermaximus]

Mine too 450.

[Ermaximus]

Old School!

[Londoner]

Aaaaaaaaaand my stream died.

mine did to, using carls link but its freezing alot.

[Droford]

Why isnt it the Last Rite now?

[Londoner]

Damnit.

[Ermaximus]

Holy shit!

[Droford]

Punk loses

and really..that was a horrible hell in a cell match..

[Mantas]

Hm.....


How retarded.

[Ermaximus]

So much for that.

[NeanderCarl]

Taker wins the strap.... for now...

[Theo Dious]

So... why did they go through all that shit of making the Hell's Gate move legal again...

[James Diesel]

FUCK......WHY?

WHY DOES HE HAVE TO BE CHAMP?

WTF?!?!?!?

I'm FUCKING RIOTING

[FourFifty]

There's something about this match being first that does not sit well with me....

[Ermaximus]

Taker vs Punk 2! Live at WWE Bragging Rights!

[CSL]

Effort

[Ermaximus]

There's something about this match being first that does not sit well with me....

[The Gold Standard]

There's something about this match being first that does not sit well with me....

Me either. Something has to happen.

[James Diesel]

I hope Punk uses his rematch clause tonight

[Anybody Thrilla]

Well that fucking sucks.

[Anybody Thrilla]

But yeah, no reason for this to be on first unless something big is happening later.

[Mantas]

I have no idea how people justify the stupid myths that Taker puts people over....

[Ermaximus]

I hope Punk uses his rematch clause tonight

Has anyone ever done that before? If not that would be amazing!

[Londoner]

I hate relying on streams...

[Theo Dious]

Taker vs Punk 2! Live at WWE Bragging Rights!

Well it would be Taker vs Punk 3... and Bragging Rights is supposedly brand vs brand...

[Dorkchop]

Anyone have a good stream? Send me a link in a PM

[FourFifty]

My stream sucks :(

[Ermaximus]

Annnnnd that stream is gone.

[Sixx]

His knee didn't look too good to be quite honest.

[Sixx]

Use the stream Carl link'd.

[Ermaximus]

Well it would be Taker vs Punk 3... and Bragging Rights is supposedly brand vs brand...

You're right. I forgot about the I Quit match. I fail.

[Sixx]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/newestdubtv

[Droford]

Morrison vs Ziggler

hmm

Im rooting for Dolph!

[Mantas]

Well it would be Taker vs Punk 3... and Bragging Rights is supposedly brand vs brand...

Technically it would be Taker vs Punk 4 but honestly there's no point in having it all their matches have been crap. I'd rather have Punk in the mid card then getting squashed by a man way past his prime.

[Londoner]

I keep searching for different ones and they're now all offline, damn wwe's busy tonight, cunts. I'll just watch it when its available for free online then.

[TheZman]

Lost my stream

[Anybody Thrilla]

I bought the PPV for real because I'm not a CHEAPSKATE (and a little bit of a sucker).

[TheZman]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/newestdubtv


I get an off air message

[Ermaximus]

Well shit.

[NeanderCarl]

If Taker's "well past his prime" how come he currently holds the record for Match of the Year so far? (In my opinion, true, but it's a popular opinion... HBK certainly didn't carry him in that match)

[FourFifty]

IS there a clear and complete version of Dolph's theme out there?

[TheZman]

I bought the PPV for real because I'm not a CHEAPSKATE (and a little bit of a sucker).


More of the latter at the moment. No offense though.

[Mantas]

I bought the PPV for real because I'm not a CHEAPSKATE (and a little bit of a sucker).

I'm proud to be a cheapskate judging from what I've seen so far in the first match.

[Londoner]

I bought the PPV for real because I'm not a CHEAPSKATE (and a little bit of a sucker).

I didn't buy it 1) cos its far too much for the entertainment they offer these days, 2) i can't afford it anyways. Thanks wwe, cunts.

[Droford]

They should just randomly drop/raise the cell on the rest of the matches not scheduled to be in the Cell.

[NeanderCarl]

The stream I linked works for me. Ziggler/Morrison now.

[James Diesel]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-wwe-hell-in-a-cell.html

its working

[TGR]

That's okay. I saw the match I wanted to see. All else, I'll watch later.

Cheers TP-Dub

[FourFifty]

I bought the PPV for real because I'm not a CHEAPSKATE (and a little bit of a sucker).

I did the webcast for breaking point while chatting in the vault. WWE's stream was a good 10 seconds behind.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Don't get mad at me because I can afford 50 bucks. Also, it's only one match in. You can't make fun of me until it's over and still sucks.

[Ermaximus]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-wwe-hell-in-a-cell.html

its working

TY!

[Ermaximus]

Ziggler looks a little like Jarret with his hair like that.

[Droford]

WWE needs to bring back the European Championship if they're bragging about having fans in Luxemborg

[The Gold Standard]

IS there a clear and complete version of Dolph's theme out there?

I have been looking for one for a while now

[Sixx]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-wwe-hell-in-a-cell.html

its working

That stream only works 20 sec for me each time and than I get a message that my country used the stream limit or something.

[James Diesel]

Ok ok ok

I've got it.

If Punk doesn't use his rematch clause tonight........

I WILL FAVOR RAW OVER SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!!

[Mantas]

If Taker's "well past his prime" how come he currently holds the record for Match of the Year so far? (In my opinion, true, but it's a popular opinion... HBK certainly didn't carry him in that match)

Good for you in my opinion that match is a vastly overrated botch fest which depended solely on the prestigious names of the two competitors and the 10 minutes of finisher-counter-finisher moves to end the match. There's at least 10 matches from this year that I'd put way above Taker/HBK....

[Ermaximus]

They should just randomly drop/raise the cell on the rest of the matches not scheduled to be in the Cell.:y: Imagine R-Truth. "WTF? I didn't sign up for this shit!"

[Ermaximus]

Ok ok ok

I've got it.

If Punk doesn't use his rematch clause tonight........

I WILL FAVOR RAW OVER SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry.:(

[James Diesel]

Does Maria design Ziggler's attire as well?

[Theo Dious]

Good for you in my opinion that match is a vastly overrated botch fest which depended solely on the prestigious names of the two competitors and the 10 minutes of finisher-counter-finisher moves to end the match. There's at least 10 matches from this year that I'd put way above Taker/HBK....

We're listening.

[Droford]

Does Maria design Ziggler's attire as well?
yes

[Ermaximus]

If Miz and Morrison both win tonight, I'll mark out.

[Londoner]

The stream on channelsurf does work but its freezing alot. beh. WWE can kiss my ass.

[Afterlife]

I can't believe that Ziggler/Morrison is already better than Punk/Taker.

[The Gold Standard]

Good for you in my opinion that match is a vastly overrated botch fest which depended solely on the prestigious names of the two competitors and the 10 minutes of finisher-counter-finisher moves to end the match. There's at least 10 matches from this year that I'd put way above Taker/HBK....

Are you going to name them, because I would love to see this list.

[Ermaximus]

The stream on channelsurf does work but its freezing alot. beh. WWE can kiss my ass.

[Ermaximus]

Oh well. Guess I'll watch the Steelers/Chargers game. See how tomorrow night's guest host is preparing. :shifty:

[Theo Dious]

Ziggler looks a little like Jarret with his hair like that.

Look, I'm no huge fan of Ziggler, but let's not insult the kid...

[James Diesel]

intsport.tk

another stream worse quality

[Ermaximus]

Look, I'm no huge fan of Ziggler, but let's not insult the kid...

:lol::lol:

[Mantas]

We're listening.

Rey/Jericho - ER, The Bash, SD
Morrison/Rey - SD
Cena/Edge - Backlash (LMS)
Punk/Hardy - Summerslam, SD (cage)
RAW Elimination Chamber - No Way Out
DX/Legacy - Summerslam
Christian/Swagger - ECW

Aside from better variety of moves used and better stories all these matches lacked the number of botches present in the HBK/Taker match. There's nothing worse then HBK gently tapping Taker's shin and him falling on the ground as if he was struck by a train.

[Ermaximus]

intsport.tk

another stream worse quality

TY!

[Afterlife]

lol, Did Ziggy just scream "Fuck"?

[Theo Dious]

Rey/Jericho - ER, The Bash, SD
Morrison/Rey - SD
Cena/Edge - Backlash (LMS)
Punk/Hardy - Summerslam, SD (cage)
RAW Elimination Chamber - No Way Out
DX/Legacy - Summerslam
Christian/Swagger - ECW

Aside from better variety of moves used and better stories all these matches lacked the number of botches present in the HBK/Taker match. There's nothing worse then HBK gently tapping Taker's shin and him falling on the ground as if he was struck by a train.

Ok, I disagree with half of them, but at least you can provide examples. Props for not being a pussy about it. :y:

[James Diesel]

No title for Mr. Ziggles

[Mantas]

Ziggler's never winning that damn title.... :(

[Ermaximus]

Off Ziggler goes. Back to mid-card country.

[Londoner]

Good, its morrisons time for now.

[CSL]

Very tidy match

[Ermaximus]

lol, Did Ziggy just scream "Fuck"?

I think he did. :lol:

[Mantas]

Ok, I disagree with half of them, but at least you can provide examples. Props for not being a pussy about it. :y:

I'm not a Taker basher I think he can still put on a hell of a match I just thoroughly believe that the WM match is overrated. But to each his own.

[Droford]

If Bragging rights ends up being Brand title vs Brand Title, then it would be interesting if the Miz won, Miz vs Morrison.

[Theo Dious]

I'm not a Taker basher I think he can still put on a hell of a match I just thoroughly believe that the WM match is overrated. But to each his own.

Welcome to the boards. :wave:

[Ermaximus]

Botchtista!!!

[Mantas]

Anyone see Tista losing and turning heel on Rey Rey? :shifty:

[James Diesel]

Botchtista shooting for a future commentating position?

[Theo Dious]

Is it me or was the Mexican Midget Machine's suspension pretty damn short?

[Afterlife]

Jesus with the streams dying.

[Ermaximus]

Rey sounds like he's 14. I now know why he never talks much.

[Londoner]

Mines fine now, no way posting it again.

[Mantas]

Jesus with the streams dying.

[Edit] - Never mind...

[redoneja]

Kinda feel like Batista will turn on Rey in this match for some reason.

[James Diesel]

Also if you need another stream

http://www.justin.tv/ragehell/popout

password = rage4ever


btw

MARKED FOR TMNT!!!!!!!!!!!

[Londoner]

lmao wtf@ the turtles

[Ermaximus]

ROFL WTF? That's so awesome. Did I hear that right? A new TMNT movie in 2011?

[Londoner]

thanks james.

[Ermaximus]

I didn't know she lived in Ponte Vedra. Holy shit.

[James Diesel]

WOOOOOO PISS BREAK TIME

[Afterlife]

[Edit] - Never mind...

ROFL WTF? That's so awesome. Did I hear that right? A new TMNT movie in 2011?

Yes, that's a reason to get excited.

[TheZman]

WWE is on a mission to get rid of streams this time around.

[Sixx]

FUCKING A. WHEN I FINALLY GOT A WORKING STREAM A DIVAS MATCH IS WHAT I GET.

[Londoner]

goddamnit

[Ermaximus]

Yes, that's a reason to get excited.

I hope they have Ace McDuck in it.

[Londoner]

WWE is on a mission to get rid of streams this time around.

Yup.

[Afterlife]

Also if you need another stream

http://www.justin.tv/ragehell/popout

password = rage4ever


btw

MARKED FOR TMNT!!!!!!!!!!!

Died. But at least I"m only "missing" a diva match.

[Mantas]

WWE is on a mission to get rid of streams this time around.

Yeah WWE is seemingly more efficient then they've ever been....

[James Diesel]

Another stream

http://sports7.net/live-1.html

[Ermaximus]

If both of there tops came off, I'd be ok with it.

[Afterlife]

I hope they have Ace McDuck in it.

Oh, sorry, I was being heavily sarcastic.

[Theo Dious]

God I hope Alicia Cuntz doesn't win this.

[Mantas]

Another stream:

http://www.justin.tv/raymond1908

[Afterlife]

Another stream

http://sports7.net/live-1.html

You are all over this business.

[Londoner]

Were like john cena, we NEVER QUIT.

[Mantas]

You are all over this business.

I am a stream fiend... :shifty:

[Ermaximus]

Oh, sorry, I was being heavily sarcastic.
I was too. It's hard to remake something good that's long past its prime.

[Mantas]

Appropriate crowd reaction for this match.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

http://liveppv.blogspot.com/

shhhhh it's a secret

[Sixx]

That http://intsport.tk one is working just fine, thanks jamesdiesel.

[TheZman]

God this match is horrid

[RawRocks]

Butterfly Kisses Championship Match

[Sixx]

I can only imagine the lines to the toilets at the arena now.

[Ermaximus]

Back to the game.

[Swiss Ultimate]

The Channelsurfing website is still working.

Punk/Taker opening doesn't sit well with a lot of people it seems. I missed it of course, thinking it'd be on last.

How long was it??? 10 minutes?

[Londoner]

wooooo its over, alicia sucks in the ring.

[screech]

That DDT looked awful.

[Afterlife]

It looked like Fox may have died there. lol

[Droford]

that was a waste of a few minutes..

[Testicle]

Mickie is too heavy to be using that DDT, its been botched a bunch of times now.

[Sixx]

I can't even tell who's face and who's heel with the divas matches cause the crowd is silent.

[IRodC]

Mickie has nice non ruptured tits, that is all

[TheZman]

That match belongs on Sunday Night Heat

[Ermaximus]

Damn. That was a sick DDT. Only hi-spot of the match.

[Afterlife]

I was too. It's hard to remake something good that's long past its prime.

No it's not. What's hard is making a movie with morons.

[Mantas]

God this match is horrid

I can't be the only one who can tell that Mickie's conditioning went straight to hell. She ran out of breath mid match....

[NeanderCarl]

Another stream

http://sports7.net/live-1.html

Hey hey! That one seems pretty good... not the greatest quality picture, but ok... no freezing, and obscure enough a site that WWE may not know to look for it. Nice 1.

[CSL]

lol Alicia got fucking drilled

[James Diesel]

Well here comes another bicep injury for Batista

[Londoner]

BREAK THE WALLS(streams) DOWWWWNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!

[Theo Dious]

Dammit, I just want to see Kliq in a Cell so I can switch over to the Steelers. :mad:

[Ermaximus]

Hahaha. I love how the don't shows up after the please, try this at home.

[RawRocks]

Tag Team Title Match

[James Diesel]

Yea I've pretty much been dominating the internet looking for streams lol

[Ermaximus]

No it's not. What's hard is making a movie with morons.Shia Lebouf?

[IRodC]

This match has Jericho so its supposed to be good

[TheZman]

I can't be the only one who can tell that Mickie's conditioning went straight to hell. She ran out of breath mid match....

Well, she went from skinny to a looking like she had child bearing fat in like 2 months. What do you expect?

[Droford]

Im glad to know the Big Show has Big Guns.

[Londoner]

Yea I've pretty much been dominating the internet looking for streams lol

Good work.:y:

[Ermaximus]

Dammit, I just want to see Kliq in a Cell so I can switch over to the Steelers. :mad:

Kinda 1 sided atm.

[IRodC]

Batistas biceps is the new Nashs quad

[RawRocks]

anothr match i have zero interest in

[Londoner]

So when punk regains the title, he'll be a 4 time world champ already wont he? That's another thing wrong with the roster split, people are gonna be beating flairs 16 time world championship record with ease in future.

[Mantas]

Well, she went from skinny to a looking like she had child bearing fat in like 2 months. What do you expect?

Oh I know but a lot of people seem to get offended when people mention that her new found chunkyness is affecting her in ring skills even though its blatantly true.

[Sixx]

I'd rep James but I'm out of points for now.

Anyway, Bats coming out before Rey? No way!

[Ermaximus]

So when punk regains the title, he'll be a 4 time world champ already wont he? That's another thing wrong with the roster split, people are gonna be beating flairs 16 time world championship record with ease in future.

Not until HHH wins it 4 more times first.

[Londoner]

Not until HHH wins it 4 more times first.

True.

[James Diesel]

Apparently Rey's cool enough to braid his beard :shifty:

[TheZman]

So when punk regains the title, he'll be a 4 time world champ already wont he? That's another thing wrong with the roster split, people are gonna be beating flairs 16 time world championship record with ease in future.

Like Triple H would allow anyone not named Triple H to do that.