NFL 2010 Off Season Thread

[Droford]

LOL on Marino "Obviously the Jets know something that we don't"

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WE WANT SAPP

[Emperor Smeat]

I remember when they blundered on taking Bubba Franks as a draft choice and then years later getting him in a trade/free agency.

[Droford]

Ravens are on the phone with the Dolphins? HMM

[DaveWadding]

Dan Williams, suckas. Told ya'll.

[RP]

I think the Colts will take Oderick if he's still there. If not, it's probably Saffold. But i wonder if the Colts would take Clausen.

They usually take the best available players.

[Droford]

I think the Colts will take Oderick if he's still there. If not, it's probably Saffold. But i wonder if the Colts would take Clausen.

They usually take the best available players.

I will pay pal you $50 if they take Clausen. Not happening.

[Droford]

Jets are on the Clock!

[RP]

I will pay pal you $50 if they take Clausen. Not happening.

k

[OssMan]

Phillip Rivers, how do you feel when Tim Zeeboe will be called the Mile High Messiah

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7972/rivers5.jpg

[RP]

LOL Jets fans!

[Droford]

we're about to get another OH NO

[Crimson]

JETS ARE UNBEATABLE OMGG

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jets D is going to be so ridiculous</font>

[RP]

ESPN guys are interupting eachother, talking over eachother. This is a major fail.

[RP]

wtg detroit

[DaveWadding]

I think the Colts take Sergio Kindle

[Hanso Amore]

How are the bills not trading up to draft Claussen>!>!>

They tried for TEBOW and now they are saying they are HEARTBROKEN they couldnt get him....so what, just sit back and let everyone pass you bye more?

jesus fucking christ I hate the bills.

Whitner. Lynch, Maybin, Mckelvin and now Spiller....Fuck the bills.

[RP]

k

[RP]

I cant believe Clausen is still available

[RP]

To announce the Saints selection, please welcome the brown spot on Drew Brees face

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Love how many fans' lives are ruined on draft day. Especially this year where they have a full day to second guess the first round.

[Skippord]

I like the The Marry Us Thomas pick

can't figure out why the broncos would rather have Tim Tebow than Jimmy Clausen but whatever

[FearedSanctity]

Can't believe the overreaction of some people to the draft. People on forums swearing off teams over picks, like some Bronco fans over Tebow. Tebow is obvious a risk/reward pick. He can either work out great, or become nothing. Just like George Foster, Ashley Lelie, Willie Middlebrooks and Jarvis Moss. And those are just Bronco picks. Yeah, they gave up a bit for him but there's still plenty enough other picks to improve the team.

[CSL]

But why Tebow over Clausen?

[Skippord]

Josh McDaniels didn't like Jimmy Clausen's weird giant retard head I guess

[FearedSanctity]

It doesn't always have to be who's better, it's who you feel fits what you want, and McDaniels obviously feels Tebow is more what he wants than Claussen

[DrA]

Interesting draft this year. I think Dez Bryant was a good pick for Dallas. I'm surprised Sergio Kindle wasn't taken in the first round. Whoever gets him in the second is getting a steal. Jerry Hughes is also a great player and will probably be a star for Indianapolis pretty soon. Don't know what the Broncos were thinking about with Tebow. Very rarely does reaching for a player like that pay off. I just don't see that working out for them.

[Emperor Smeat]

Tebow needs to thank Gruden for boosting his draft value by a lot with the whole one-on-one segments he had on ESPN talking about a select few players and Tebow was one of them.

Everyone except Gruden on the booth was shocked and surprised when Tebow got drafted when he should have been a 2nd Round or middle draft round style pick.

[Nervous Ferret]

"hell yeah" @ Kyle Wilson. I am a huge fan. Thought he would be gone long before the Jets picked and I didn't think they would go corner anyway. Maybe they will take Mountain Cody tomorrow...

[SammyG]

SAM
THE
RAM

[SammyG]

Did anyone else hear Jon Gruden say" There's some dumbass GMs in this league!"?

[Skippord]

10. Tyson Alualu, DT, California
I love it. The Jaguars probably could have moved down 30 spots and still obtained Tyson Alualu. This is a joke. Jacksonville sets a new low for an NFL Draft grade. (Pick Grade: Millen on LSD)

lol

[ClockShot]

GODDAMN IT. THIS SUCKS!

Yeah, still can't get over last night. Takes me back to last year when Orakpo fell in our lap and we took Moreno. And in less than 30 seconds Snyder was on the phone and Orakpo went to D.C.

[Skippord]

I kind of like the Tebow pick actually

he and Brian Dawkins can go on an evangelical tour

[FearedSanctity]

So we have a like, love and hate. Where's Dave and CNM? We need to get to the bottom of this shit

[FearedSanctity]

Also wtf? Do Bronco fans actually outnumber all others?

[Skippord]

it does seem like there's a lot

[Skippord]

Tebow will bring more females with tig ol' bitties into the city of Denver
also I could not support this more

[FearedSanctity]

Denver has a wide variety of QBs. A drunk, a homo and a Christian with a love for the breasts

[Skippord]

And Tom Brandstater

[FearedSanctity]

(in a week)

Who?

[Skippord]

no one has heard of Tom Brandstater now :'(

[FearedSanctity]

He looked good when he played last year, if fucking Chris Simms can catch on somewhere, Brandstater can too

[Skippord]

Whoa, just googled Tim Tebow's girlfriend

well done sir

[Skippord]

lol Chris Simms

I really thought he could play quarterback

[FearedSanctity]

Whoa, just googled Tim Tebow's girlfriend

well done sir

Doesn't hurt it's the first suggestion on Google when you type in Tim Tebow

http://sportsfags.com/public_html/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2009/07/tim_tebow12.jpg

[Skippord]

I now approve of this pick even slightly more

[FearedSanctity]

Just realized Tebow is all of a year and 3 days older than me, and a good chunk of the rookies will actually be younger than me. My life is over

[Skippord]

I am terrified of that happening

[FearedSanctity]

When you're like 10 you look at these guys and say that's where I wanna be, but now at 21 I'm like FUCK, WHAT HAPPENED?

[Skippord]

well I'm gonna go shoot up some heroin and hang myself

thanks for reminding me this is going to happen to me also soon

[FearedSanctity]

On a slightly happier note, Mount Cody is still available.

Make it happen, McDaniels. O-line be damned

[Skippord]

Put him at guard

[FearedSanctity]

And center. At the same time.

[FearedSanctity]

Your 2010 Denver Broncos QBs

http://westsidewill.com/newblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Kyle-Orton.jpg

http://getsbybuckner.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/brady-quinn.jpg

http://img.waffleimages.com/a7a0481031ab6bcec30abd36b01e10078c64576f/tebow1.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

Oh yeah, and Tom Brandstater...

http://cdn.sparkart.net/fivefourclothing/content/photos/1242675735.48725.01.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

Something about him riding off into the sunset seems hilariously fitting

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Really interested in seeing what the Giants do today.

Did a lot of reading up on JPP...a LOT of people seem to think he'll be a bust, including USF fans.

I dunno, I have faith in Jerry Reese. His draft history the past two years hasn't been able to match the awesome 2007 draft, but it's still been better than most.</font>

[DaveBrawl]

Just realized Tebow is all of a year and 3 days older than me, and a good chunk of the rookies will actually be younger than me. My life is over

I am terrified of that happening

Yeah I had that feeling a few years ago, really sucks the first few times you notice it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah several of the first rounders are younger than me, including Jason Pierre-Paul (first Giants player to be younger than me).

Next year players will be drafted who were born in the '90s. Fuck.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I bet the Rams feel pretty stupid in retrospect. Yeah they raved about Bradford and everything but they could have drafted Suh and still had Clausen there to start the 2nd round. Ridiculous draft.</font>

[CSL]

Doesn't hurt it's the first suggestion on Google when you type in Tim Tebow

http://sportsfags.com/public_html/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2009/07/tim_tebow12.jpg

lol that bottom right pic isn't his missus. But fair play to the boy

[Droford]

Conspiracy Theory Alert!!

The Broncos traded #15 Brandon Marshall before the draft knowing they were going to draft Tebow so they could give him his #15 that he wore in Florida which was the # Marshall wore.

I bet he was like "I dont wanna come to Denver unless I can wear #15"

hmm

[RoXer]

When you're like 10 you look at these guys and say that's where I wanna be, but now at 21 I'm like FUCK, WHAT HAPPENED?

Yeah, next year a guy who is younger than me and who I rode the bus with every day will likely be drafted 1st or 2nd round.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

SAVE_US_TEBOW

Seriously though Ozzie Newsome is a freaking genius. Trading out of the 1st round basically meant they got back the picks they gave up for Boldin, only better.

[FearedSanctity]

Conspiracy Theory Alert!!

The Broncos traded #15 Brandon Marshall before the draft knowing they were going to draft Tebow so they could give him his #15 that he wore in Florida which was the # Marshall wore.

I bet he was like "I dont wanna come to Denver unless I can wear #15"

hmm

Given that Marshall was unlikely to stay in Denver starting from Week 17, I call BS and just a coincidence. Marshall has so much attachment to 15 that he's making no real effort to take it from Bess in Miami, so I doubt he'd have had a problem giving it up

[SammyG]

I wonder who the Rams are taking at 33. I wouldn't mind trading down here, getting hella more picks. Minnesota picking 34th might help us, people might wanna trade up to get Clausen/McCoy. Can't believe McCoy and Clausen are still there.. shit, coulda drafted Suh AND Clausen/McCoy. Kinda hate Clausen, so I guess that's good we don't have him.

The Giants drafting JPP could be a sign that Osi is on his way out, I think they have been trying to shop him... What better place than St.Louis for him, Spags knows him best.

[Hanso Amore]

Bills are trying to send Marshawn Lynch to the Seahawks for picks, then package those picks with the 41st pick and sending it to the Rams for 33 to draft claussen.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

what do you care? I thought you were done.

[Hanso Amore]

Im tell Sammmy so he knows. I really have no excitement in this draft any further. Its just going to be a letdown. Most likely they will sit at 41 and no pull the trigger, then end up keeping Lynch for no apparent reason.

IT just shows how out of it the Bills are. The NFL is a passing league. And Buddy Nix and Chan Gailey (Dukes of Hazard) are rolling out this "Run First" Offense....like it is some form of new idea. They are swapping to a 3-4, they have no starting tackles, no serviceable QB, and they choose to grab a luxury running back when they already have 2 One Thousand yard backs. I just cant really get into this now. I sit here and listen to AM Sports Talk to listen to Rome, and get the Bills updates.

[Innovator]

I hope Spikes falls to the Giants, or Reese trades up to get him, WE NEED AN INSIDE LINEBACKER GOD DAMMIT GOD DAMMIT

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I know Buffalo is in a position where the fans won't care unless they get a name-brand QB, but I really think they'd be better off waiting a little bit. I really don't think any of the QBs in this draft stand out, so I don't see why Buffalo can't pass on an expensive choice like Clausen and settle for an equally talented guy like Dan LeFevour later on.

[Hanso Amore]

I know Buffalo is in a position where the fans won't care unless they get a name-brand QB, but I really think they'd be better off waiting a little bit. I really don't think any of the QBs in this draft stand out, so I don't see why Buffalo can't pass on an expensive choice like Clausen and settle for an equally talented guy like Dan LeFevour later on.

I think in the end they would accept no qb, should they have sufficiently addressed need positions.

This is a Team who since 2003 has drafted 3 RBs in the first round....

That is now how you build a team.

They had a Pro Bowl Travis Henry (Pre downfall) and they went cute and drafted McGahee.

Then they trade that 1st round RB for two 3rd round picks, and spend another first to replace him.

Now we have 2 top 12 picks in the backfield, plus a 1000 yeard back from last year who is the starter! THey are just spinning their tires. Now they have no leverage in trading Lynch, and will be lucky to get a 5th since people know he is on the way out.

Its not about passing on a QB, its about watching evbery other team in the East improve, and the Bills have only been sliding backwards for 15 years. New Regime comes in, and makes the same mistakes.

I actually would have been ok with the top 3 picks being a OT, NT and WR and gave Brohm and Edwards one last chance with a new system and nabbed a Locker or Mallet next year...

But this was just pure ass

[Hanso Amore]

Lets look at the Bills last 6+ drafts.

2003 Willis McGahee Miami (FL) Running Back
2004 Lee Evans Wisconsin Wide Receiver
2004 J.P. Losman Tulane Quarterback
2005 No 1st Round Pick, Roscoe Parrish (2nd Round) Miami (FL) Wide Receiver
2006 Donte Whitner Ohio State Safety
2006 John McCargo North Carolina State Defensive Tackle
2007 Marshawn Lynch California Running Back
2008 Leodis McKelvin Troy Defensive Back
20091 Aaron Maybin Penn State Defensive End/Outside Linebacker
20091 Eric Wood Louisville Center
20101 C.J. Spiller Clemson Running Back

Not one Pro Bowl player.

Maybin barely saw the field, and the Jury is out, but he looks like he could bust. Wood is Solid. WHitner is the block, and is Lynch. If both get traded that means only

McKelvin, Wood, Evans and Spiller would still be Bills. How can you miss that much? The 2nd round is even worse.

7 Drafts, and only 7...maybe less depending on expected cuts and retirements, players remain from the first 2 rounds.

[ClockShot]

One pick in round 2, 2 in round 3. Unless McDevil is gonna pull more hijinks today, I'd like somebody, hell anybody for defense. Got the WR, got the unnecessary 3rd QB.

[Hanso Amore]

One pick in round 2, 2 in round 3. Unless McDevil is gonna pull more hijinks today, I'd like somebody, hell anybody for defense. Got the WR, got the unnecessary 3rd QB.

Tebow is going to start a new "Leadership" position.

[ClockShot]

Round 2 is underway.

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, this Claussen thing has really gone from funny to kinda sad.

He can go anywhere but KC and Oakland and I'll cheer for him

[ClockShot]

Clausen better do some last minute flirting on Erin Andrews while he still can. Unless she left him already.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Nasty Nate Allen to the Eagles. Great pick. That dude eats cocktail fruit.

[ClockShot]

Jim Brown. Is this important?

[ClockShot]

Nope. Guess not.

[FearedSanctity]

Happens when it's possible. Floyd Little will announce Denver's pick regardless of whatever it

[FearedSanctity]

If Claussen doesn't go to Oakland, I can't see him going until Carolina at 16. After that maybe the 49ers at 17 or Arizona at 26

[ClockShot]

Let's kill some time and I'll ask this:

Who's gonna be this year's Graham Harrell?

Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy, or Tony Pike?

[FearedSanctity]

Holy clusterfuck, this is looking shitty on the NFL's behalf. How the hell can Denver pick when Baltimore and Oakland's picks haven't been announced?

[McLegend]

Is there any player that Jon Gruden doesn't love?

[FearedSanctity]

Per Schefter's Twitter:

Zane beadles to Denver. #nfldraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23nfldraft)

[Crimson]

I wonder how Kiper feels..his 4th overall best player in Clausen is still on the board lol

[RoXer]

Rob Gronkowski!!!!!!!!!

Stima, you're going to love him.

[RoXer]

I think his whole family is settled in the Mass area but not too sure. Maybe you've heard of them.

[Hanso Amore]

Rob went to my high School outside Buffalo, think they live in PA now...

[ClockShot]

Clausen finally went. Panthers took him.

[Emperor Smeat]

Gruden from yesterday during the draft.

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[Emperor Smeat]

McCoy finally got drafted, 3rd Round 85th pick to Cleveland Browns.

[FearedSanctity]

Great day for Denver, 3 guys who can come in and start immediately

[CNM]

I'm really happy with our draft so far. If there's anybody I'm willing to give a chance to impress me and develop into a great QB, it's Tebow.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Pats had a pretty strong day 2. Brandon Spikes is an animal

Happy w/ the Taylor Price pick; not sure if it's gonna translate but I remember watching him play at Ohio and being impressed with him.

[Droford]

I like the Ravens pick of Sergio Kindle, they had a time with getting a decent pass rush last year and he should help out a lot. Dickerson is also an excellent pick at #70 and if things work out I could see him supplanting HEEEEEEEEEEEEAP by the midway point of the year at TE.
Kiper said he was capable of starting in the NFL Day one, but unless something crazy happens Heap gets the benefit of the doubt to start off even though his time's pretty much past.

Also apparently the nickname for the Cody/Ngata combo is the 700 Club since both of them combined are over 700 lbs and gonna stuff guys up the middle. Was totally amazed Cody fell all the way to the Ravens for the 57th pick.

[DaveWadding]

I'm really happy with our draft so far. If there's anybody I'm willing to give a chance to impress me and develop into a great QB, it's Tebow.

I don't buy this for one second. You've been talking yourself into this Tebow thing since last night.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'm shocked that the Giants didn't get a linebacker. There must be somebody they really like in the later rounds or something.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

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[DrA]

When you're like 10 you look at these guys and say that's where I wanna be, but now at 21 I'm like FUCK, WHAT HAPPENED?

You still have a year, maybe even two, to get your act together. Make every second count.

[FearedSanctity]

I will, DrA. Just for you

[Skippord]

Could Tebow have been wearing a gayer shirt for this?

honestly

[FearedSanctity]

http://www.tebowzone.com/images/tebow-girlfriend-2.jpg

YOUR ARGUMENT IS NOW INVALID

[CSL]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZHxe60z-nbE/SYxR8unJvvI/AAAAAAAABRM/w1oxjlRy4iQ/s400/200716190161187308816.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

Point taken

[FearedSanctity]

If Tebow and Quinn are both gay QBs, I wonder which one would be the "backup" :naughty:

[Skippord]

Kyle Orton better not get drunk around the two of them!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants finally got their middle linebacker. Of course, it's not somebody expected to make much of an impact.

Still not sure why they passed on Sean Lee and Brandon Spikes.</font>

[Gonzo]

I've had a few questions myself about the Giants draft this year. However, since Reese has taken over as GM, the Giants have had some solid drafts. They aren't usually flashy, or make a lot of trades, but just have nice, solid, quiet drafts.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>They could have had Kirk Morrison easily but he got dealt to the Jags instead.

Loads of trades happening right now. In a 30 minute span the Seahawks have added LenDale White and Leon Washington.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jets release Alan Faneca</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Raiders apparently talking to the Skins about Jason Campbell.

Could JaMarcus' days be over? This would basically reverse about 4 years of hilarious draft related mishaps by Oakland :eek:

[Nervous Ferret]

Jets traded Leon Washington and a 7th round pick for a 4th which was used on JOHN CONNER. Bummer to see Leon go he is the man, but he is coming off serious injury and wants to "get paid". Plus the Jets took McNight anyway and they have more good kick returners so I don't really see it hurting them at all. They played the second half of last season without Leon. Faneca though :(

[OssMan]

Jason Campbell traded to Oakland holy ****

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>This Myron Rolle story is so depressing. Dude has essentially been punished for being too smart.</font>

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, such bullshit. Teams should be jumping at the chance to have a guy like him, but instead because he worked hard at more than just football they question his passion. Just means he'll have something to move on to when his playing days are over, instead of just disappearing into nothing like most retirees.

[Droford]

Jason Campbell traded to Oakland holy ****

for a 4th rounder in 2012 (not next years draft)

LenDale White to the Seahawks as well..so now they have Juilus Jones, Justin Forsett, Leon Washington and Lendale White.

All 4 of them together might add up to a decent RB.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Tim Toone is Mr. Irrelevant</font>

[Shadow]

Jason Campbell traded to Oakland holy ****

McNabb showing up in DC bascially sealed his fate.

Wonder why they didn't get anything for next year though.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>A few notable undrafted free agent signings:

-Bucs: QB Jevan Snead
-49ers: RB LeGarrette Blount
-Ravens: LB Mike McLaughlin

OT Tony Washington is still unsigned. Nobody seems to want him because he fucked his sister.</font>

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>My breakdown of the Giants' 2010 Draft Class:

1. DE Jason Pierre-Paul: I like this pick. It may be a bit risky but the dude seems like a really good athlete. Assuming Osi stays I'm still not sure how Fewell plans on using Tuck, Osi, Kiwi, AND JPP but you really can never have too many athletic pass rushers. Interested in seeing how this guy pans out.

2. DT Linval Joseph: A smart move here as the Giants are really questionable at DT. Robbins is gone, Bernard was horrific, Canty was also pretty bad. Hopefully those latter two guys will bounce back and combine that with Alford coming back and the addition of Joseph it could be a really solid DT rotation.

3. S Chad Jones: With the status of Kenny Phillips uncertain, it was a really good decision to get even more extra insurance. If his hands are as good as advertsied should see some playing time. He also has really good speed and could factor in as a punt returner.

4. MLB Phillip Dillard: When the Giants missed on McClain I figured they would get Sean Lee or Brandon Spikes. They were willing to pass on those guys for Dillard though. There are like 4 guys competing for the MLB job so you never know, if he comes out of the gate strong he can start.

5. G Mitch Petrus: Dude seems crazy strong and benched 225 pounds 45 times at the Combine. The Giants desperately need to get younger on the line so this is a good team for him to wind up on. He won't be starting right away or anything but depending on how the aging line plays this year he could look to grab the LG spot from Seubert in 2011.

6. DE/OLB Adrian Tracy: Given the state of the LB corp I'm going to have to assume Tracy will be playing primarily at OLB in pre-season, cause at DE he'd do no better than #5 on the depth chart. It seems like Boley is the only LB guaranteed to start no year so it doesn't hurt getting more competition for the other spots.

7. P Matt Dodge: Initially I assumed he was just going to be brought in to compete with Aussie Rules guy Jy Bond for a practice squad spot to take over for Feagles in 2011, but Feagles may actually retire now. For what its worth he's one of only two punters the Giants felt were worth drafting this year. He also can handle kickoffs, which is a plus as Tynes sucks at kicking off.</font>

[RoXer]

Fucking Cardinals are getting a black alternate which essentialy makes them the Arizona Falcons

[Heros Welcome]

Yeah not too happy with that either RoX! Looking exactly like my dirty birds.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants give 33-year old DE Brandon Crawford a tryout. Awesome. He's in great shape and didn't begin his college football career until after being discharged from the Marines.

In the longshot event that he winds up on the Giants' Opening Day roster (by which point he'd have turned 34), he'd be the oldest rookie since 1946.</font>

[Droford]

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/04/25/news/photos_stories/100422_jets_stadium__jc-11134754--300x450.jpg

Guess which brand new billion dollar stadium this seat (and 58 others like it) is in, and win a prize..

[FearedSanctity]

Jets/Giants, it's the only new stadium this year

Gimme

[FearedSanctity]

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[McLegend]

I really liked the Riley Cooper pick by the Eagles.

[Skippord]

Pretty big fan of the Perish Cox pick by the Broncos

[FearedSanctity]

Pretty big fan of the Eric Decker pick by the Broncos

[Innovator]

Phillip Dillard had a torn ACL in 2006 then lost his starting spot on Nebraska, vowing to his dying mother to change his attitude and won his job back. I like this kid.

Dammit I called a rookie kid, I'm old.

[D Mac]

Come onnnnnnn not Berry

Cant wait till he sacks the hell out of Tim Teefag

[FearedSanctity]

Cant wait till he tries to sack the hell out of Tim Teefag, only to have Clady step in and plant him on his ass

[D Mac]

NOT!

[RoXer]

Tim Teefag

Are you kidding me?

[SammyG]

Yeah that's horrible.

[D Mac]

Blow me

[Skippord]

see you should have gone with Teblow

[D Mac]

Yeah, that.

Tim Teblow blows! :rofl:

[Big Fat Mike]

Also, Jets green hat and /nypost/2010/04/25/news/photos_stories/100422_jets_stadium__jc-11134754--300x450.jpg (http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/04/25/news/photos_stories/100422_jets_stadium__jc-11134754--300x450.jpg)

How the does that architect keep finding work? That's almost as bad as some of the obstructed views in the New Yankee Stadium.


..OKay, it's worse.

[Ermaximus]

Cant wait till he sacks the hell out of Tim Teefag

You act like Tebow will even play this season. He's going to get paid a ton of money to sit on the bench and be 3rd string behind Orton and Quinn.

In other news, Jacksonville has continued to cement it's place as one of the stupidest teams ever. They dumped off John Henderson today.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-nfl/20100426/Jaguars-Henderson.Released/

Fucking horrible season ahead. I suspect a 3-13 record, but at least we'll get the first pick next year. Well, that's a bad idea because Gene Smith's dumbass will waste it on some shit player that he could have gotten in the 4th round. :nono:

[Team Sheep]

Just booked flights to NYC for September. Gonna go to the Jets/Ravens game. Can't wait :D

[Gonzo]

How the does that architect keep finding work? That's almost as bad as some of the obstructed views in the New Yankee Stadium.


..OKay, it's worse.

I read an article today on NJ.com in which Pat Hanlon (of the Giants) stated that the 58 obstructed view seats have been taken out and never were intended to be sold.

[FearedSanctity]

Probably a big reason why McD went all out to get Tebow:

"When I went to Gainesville Monday to work him out,'' McDaniels said, referring to his hush-hush trip to spend the day with Tebow, "we spent about seven hours together. We went over a lot of things. Now, understand that our offense is pretty complicated, and the terminology and the scheme is totally different from what he did at Florida. But about midway through my time there, we're going through plays, and he starts using our terminology. He's so smart about football that he was able to begin to speak my language and talk apples to apples. He'd already translated what he knew of our scheme into my words. That's something that carried a lot of weight with me.''Tebow did in a few hours what it took Orton several months to do. Ridiculous

[Gonzo]

Probably a big reason why McD went all out to get Tebow:

Tebow did in a few hours what it took Orton several months to do. Ridiculous

Pretty impressive I suppose, but, that needs to be translated on the field. It will be interesting to watch his development, to say the least.

[RP]

I really like Tebow. He seems like a great guy. I think he's going to be good. But giving like 4 draft picks(???) up to Bmore for him? Thats a rape.

[FearedSanctity]

I really like Tebow. He seems like a great guy. I think he's going to be good. But giving like 4 draft picks(???) up to Bmore for him? Thats a rape.

Was 3, and 2 of the 3 picks they used they had gotten earlier from trading down. So moving back into the 1st really only cost them a 4th

[FearedSanctity]

In a sign that the Broncos can never have too many good things going at once, Clady blew out his knee

[Reavant]

bahahahahaha

[FearedSanctity]

:'(

[FearedSanctity]

Geez, so he'll either be out for a couple months or out for the season. Pretty big swing there.

[ClockShot]

...

[FearedSanctity]

In somewhat positive news, from an interview with Pete Carroll:


Carroll also gushed about a first-round quarterback on whom the Seahawks passed, not once but twice. "I think anybody that got Tim Tebow (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5096) had a good draft because I think he's going to surprise everybody," Carroll said. "And I think he's going to be a fantastic addition to a team. There's another guy that we would have really liked to have been able to add for the future because of what he brings. He will not let these issues about throwing motions and things be in the way. He will will his way through that if he's anything at all like I know."

The Seahawks coach likewise heaped praise on former Minnesota Golden Gophers receiver Eric Decker (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5819). "Very, very good receiver," Carroll said, "and we have a guy [previously] on that [Minnesota] staff, Jedd Fisch, who coached him and we knew all about him and really were hoping to get a chance to get him, too."

[FearedSanctity]

Clady's patellar tendon was only 50% torn. He already had surgery yesterday and rehab has already started. Out 3-4 months, good chance he's ready for the opener

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jeff Feagles hangs 'em up after 22 seasons. Played in each of the 325 regular season games, and never missed a playoff game either.

Amazing directional punter, but his time had come...had no leg strength left which spelled trouble everytime the Giants had to punt from their own end of the field.

If Ray Guy ever got into the HOF (which is really a crime that he hasn't...yeah he's a punter but he was extremely valuable and if it's a football position, there has to have been somebody who was the best at it), I could see Feagles being the 2nd punter to ever get in.</font>

[Crimson]

Dez f'n Bryant

[Skippord]

that guy's mother is a prostitute

[McLegend]

And his Dad is a pimp.

[FearedSanctity]

Sean Payton implicated in alleged Vicodin theft at Saints facility (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/01/sean-payton-implicated-in-alleged-vicodin-theft-at-saints-facility/)

Posted by Mike Florio on May 1, 2010 12:23 PM ET
On Friday, former Saints director of security Geoffrey Santini sued the team for constructive discharge (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/30/lawsuit-against-saints-alleges-loomis-tried-to-cover-up-thefts-of-vicodin/). He alleges that G.M. Mickey Loomis attempted to cover up evidence that Vicodin was being stolen from the team drug locker by two senior staff members.

The lawsuit does not name the two senior staff members. Per the initial filing, Saints trainer Scottie Patton told Santini that one of the unnamed employees has a "painful medical condition," and that the other one does not.

Based on extensive discussions with multiple sources having knowledge of the situation but who have requested anonymity given the sensitive nature of the case, the two unnamed senior staff members are assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt and head coach Sean Payton.

Keep in mind that these are only allegations. To date, no proof has been introduced linking either man to the alleged theft, unauthorized use, or abuse of Vicodin from the Saints' drug locker. It is our understanding that the matter has been referred to local federal authorities, and that the matter has been investigated. We don't know whether the investigation has been concluded, or whether it remains active.

Per our sources, Vitt is the staff member with the painful medical condition. Which means that Payton is the staff member who, based on the information provided by Patton to Santini, does not have a painful medical condition.

The Saints declined comment on the matter. Reach by e-mail, V.P. of communications Greg Bensel forwarded his statement from Friday, which initially was given to the New Orleans Times-Picayune (http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/suit_against_new_orleans_saint.html). "I will not have any other comment nor will I be releasing these names," Bensel told us.

(Here is Bensel's statement from Friday: "A former employee who resigned just before the 2009 regular season threatened to go public with these unfounded charges unless we agreed to pay him an exorbitant sum of money. We refused and now he has gone public. We will aggressively defend these false allegations in court. We will not have any further comment on this matter at this time. Rather we look forward to welcoming our rookie players and want our focus to be on continuing our preparations for the 2010 Football Season and defending our title.")

We've been advised that settlement discussions indeed occurred before the suit was filed, but that an agreement (obviously) was not reached. The lawsuit filing indicates that formal service of the documents has not yet been requested. Once service occurs, the Saints will have a finite period of time within which to respond. Given that the claims implicate federal drug laws, it's possible that the team will remove the lawsuit from Louisiana state court to federal court.

Typically, federal court provides a more level playing field for business interests. Given the extent to which the Saints are locally beloved, however, Santini and his lawyer could have a hard time finding jurors in either the state or federal setting who will be capable of overlooking the fleur-de-lis that has been tattooed onto their souls.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

http://cachemediasrv.patriots.com/ImgDyn.cfm?s=spikes_stanceA83F7691.jpg&c=1&w=500&cs=1

[FearedSanctity]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Images/Top%20Stories/2010/tebow_gc_100501.jpg

[OssMan]

http://www.mujahideenryder.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/david-tyree-superbowl-42.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/09/13/alg_martin_elway_superbowl.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

You cut me deep, sir

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Pac Man's a Bengal. Oh boy!

I'm sure coaches were impressed by his team spirit when he showed up in an orange and black jumpsuit.

[D Mac]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/30819/chiefs_broncos_helmet.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/1557049395_14800649c3_o.gif

[D Mac]

Cheap shot. But that's just like them.

[FearedSanctity]

Football

[FearedSanctity]

But, if you wanna talk cheap shot...

http://www.opus-photography.net/smilies/caps/2008/BradyKneeInjury.jpg

[FearedSanctity]

Or maybe the Chiefs just need to grow a pair

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/B4Bronco6/output.gif

[Skippord]

Tim TebOH!

[Ermaximus]

http://img.allposters.com/6/LRG/22/2254/26JZD00Z.jpg

[Skippord]

good choice Lawrence Taylor

[Ermaximus]

good choice Lawrence Taylor

"I thought she was 18!"

[Innovator]

Pretty weird to think that Zeeboe and LT have something in common

[Innovator]

:lol: from Deadspin: "I refuse to believe this. At WrestleMania XI, Salt-N-Pepa in no uncertain terms told us whatta man, whatta man, whatta mighty, mighty good man LT was. Is this viciously beaten and raped 15-year-old calling Salt-N-Pepa liars? "

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn. LT will always be a Giants legend...but if this story winds up being true, I could see the team damn near "Benoit"ing him. No LT highlights on the big board during games, no acknowledging him, etc. #56 will still be retired though obviously.

Wonder how many people will still wear their LT jerseys to games.</font>

[Big Fat Mike]

He just can't stop fucking up.

Rather, his celebrity magnifies his fuck ups. If one of us got busted for sleeping with an underage girl, we would have the book thrown at us and hardly anyone would ever find out about it.

[James Steele]

LOLCHIEFS

[Innovator]

Yeah LT keeps messing up big time, but i'll still love what he did for the Giants

[Innovator]

And still refuse to refer to Ladanian TomWussenstein as LT

[Loose Cannon]

http://blogs.delawareonline.com/eagles/files/2010/02/ladainian_tomlinson.jpg

"I knew he'd take the bait"

[Innovator]

"Has the statute of limitations expired on what he did to Bam Bam Bigelow's career?"<!-- REPLY -->

[SammyG]

Stay classy, veterans.

[Loose Cannon]

oh my

http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/590/draft_lens2300986module19547862photo_1236463933lawrence_taylor_and_edyta.jpg

[IC Champion]

Stay classy, veterans.

LOL, Kobe. That is all.

[OssMan]

What the fuck did Lawrence Taylor do, all of a sudden everyone is talking about him but nobody posted anything wtf

[Skippord]

He had sex with a 16 year old prostitute

[Ermaximus]

He raped a 15 year old and patronized a prostitute

[DaveBrawl]

Sad to see the Raider's cut Russell. Was kind of relying on him being their to hold on the bottom spot of the division.

[ClockShot]

Sad to see the Raider's cut Russell. Was kind of relying on him being their to hold on the bottom spot of the division.

Some sucker team will give him a chance. Don't know who's in the market for a QB. Maybe Buffalo to get in on the AFC East cold war.

[D Mac]

LOLCHIEFS

LOL...um...YOURFAVORITETEAM

[Ermaximus]

Some sucker team will give him a chance. Don't know who's in the market for a QB. Maybe Buffalo to get in on the AFC East cold war.

http://www.nflgearstore.com/images/jacksonville_jaguars_a_magnet.jpg

This is right up our alley. I mean, our backups are Luke McCowen, and Trevor Harris. Who the fuck are Luke McCowen and Trevor Harris?

[FearedSanctity]

McCown's been around for years, and I've never heard of Harris. By default both are better than Russell.

Ryan Leaf > JaMarcus Russell

[Ermaximus]

McCown's been around for years, and I've never heard of Harris. By default both are better than Russell.

Ryan Leaf > JaMarcus Russell

It's possible Russell sucked because he played in Oakland?

[Skippord]

Nah, he is just blindingly awful

[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, seriously. Gradkowski did good for Oakland last year before getting hurt, Russell is just fucking terrible. No idea how they even let him play this long

[FearedSanctity]

Russell's played in more games (31) than he has TD passes (18) after 3 years. Five games last year he completed less than 40% of his passes.

[Ermaximus]

Russell's played in more games (31) than he has TD passes (18) after 3 years.

Damn. Those are some terrible stats. Oh well, maybe he'll just retire.

I'm more interested in seeing who starts in Philly now that McNabb is gone. Kolb or Vick?

[FearedSanctity]

Has to be Kolb, he seems to have a good future going for him. Vick's 30 and it's not like he's that good or will even get any better

[Triple Naitch]

Yeah it'll definitely be Kolb, They just extended him for a year too.

[SammyG]

LOL, Kobe. That is all.
So, he cheated on his wife, consensual sex with an adult.. yup, what a terrible person.. That happened 6 years ago. Bitch dropped the charges. Trying to milk him for his money. You're such an idiot.

[Ermaximus]

So, he cheated on his wife, consensual sex with an adult.. yup, what a terrible person.. That happened 6 years ago. Bitch dropped the charges. Trying to milk him for his money. You're such an idiot.

That's the joys of being a celebrity. People can make up bogus bs all the time and the media almost always buys into the shit. Fuck the media.

[DaveWadding]

So, he cheated on his wife, consensual sex with an adult.. yup, what a terrible person.. That happened 6 years ago. Bitch dropped the charges. Trying to milk him for his money. You're such an idiot.

Rape is not consensual. Kobe paid her to keep quiet.

[IC Champion]

So, he cheated on his wife, consensual sex with an adult.. yup, what a terrible person.. That happened 6 years ago. Bitch dropped the charges. Trying to milk him for his money. You're such an idiot.

LOL, weather he did it or not is irrelevant to my point, the piont is Kobe was once accused of something similar, which would later "appear" to be unproven. I just found it hypocritical of you to make fun of LT for being accused of a crime, yet defended Kobe like he was a jesus, just saying.

So please, think before you call people idiots, and maybe you won't look so dumb yourself.

[James Steele]

LOL, weather he did it or not is irrelevant to my point, the piont is Kobe was once accused of something similar, which would later "appear" to be unproven. I just found it hypocritical of you to make fun of LT for being accused of a crime, yet defended Kobe like he was a jesus, just saying.

So please, think before you call people idiots, and maybe you won't look so dumb yourself.

Next to impossible for DoucheG.

[IC Champion]

Next to impossible for DoucheG.

Have I and Mr Steele just seen eye-to-eye? Or is it we just both know SammyG is an unintelligent greek.

[James Steele]

Have I and Mr Steele just seen eye-to-eye? Or is it we just both know SammyG is an unintelligent greek.

Both.

[ClockShot]

Texans LB Brian Cushing suspended 4 games for steroids.

[James Steele]

Texans LB Brian Cushing suspended 4 games for steroids.

SON OF A BITCH.

Should have known, signing a USC prick.

[IC Champion]

SON OF A BITCH.

Should have known, signing a USC prick.

And you got the cowboys in the first four, WOOOOO.

[RP]

Reporter: Coach Payton! How long have you been addicted to Vicodin?

http://blog.nola.com/tpmoney/2008/08/large_seanpayton.bmp

Payton : Who Dat?

[McLegend]

I think I am popular in the Eagles locker room then Donovan McNabb is.

[Innovator]

Is Donovan still crying in the fetal position in the shower because another teammate ripped on him?

[McLegend]

He probably is.

What does Donovan McNabb want DeSean Jackson to say? Honestly?

Like C'mon you are 34 get over it dude.

[Innovator]

I'm pretty sure DeSean got tired to catching balls at his feet, only to look back and see his QB laughing

[SammyG]

YESSS Alex Barron is gone! No more False starts!

[Ermaximus]

YESSS Alex Barron is gone! No more False starts!

Enlighten me. What team Sammy?

[CSL]

RAM SHOWWWW

[SammyG]

Yeah, the Rams.

[DaveWadding]

Barron was always god awful.

[IC Champion]

Who the fuck cuts Flozell Adams, and replaces him with a less talented false start machine.

[Ermaximus]

RAM SHOWWWW

Yeah, the Rams.

Appreciate it guys. I had no clue as I don't really follow the Rams.

[SammyG]

Barron was always god awful.
He was decent, I dunno if I'd say god awful. His false starts KILLED us though. On the rare occasion that we got over the 50, he would make sure we got back to our own half of the field again.

[SammyG]

I don't think Alex Barron will start for the Cowboys, btw.

[IC Champion]

I don't think Alex Barron will start for the Cowboys, btw.

He won't start, Doug Free probably will, he'll be given a chance to compete, and if he impresses, he might get it. But right now, its Free's job to lose. Barron was brought in to offer some depth to the line, with injuries to Comlumbo and such.

[Reavant]

sweet i went to college with free... good for him

[IC Champion]

I really hope he doesn't disappoint.

[ClockShot]

AP re-votes on the Rookie of the Year and Cushing still keeps it.

But, he lost ALOT of votes. Only got 18 votes back from the original 39. Buffalo safety Jairus Byrd came close with 13. The rest got spread out between Clay Matthews III, Brian Orakpo, and Jim Laurinaitis.

[Emperor Smeat]

Sort of surprised he managed to keep the award but it seems more like the voters didn't believe Byrd was worthy of the award even with a recount because of how the swing votes spread out over too many players.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Cushing tested positive for something that has been used as a masking agent (pretty sure it's not it's only use/it's also produced naturally) so I'm guessing that had something to do with it. It's not like it's 100% proven he was taking anabolics or something. Plus he failed the test in Sept then played all season without failing anymore tests.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Norman Hand has died</font> :(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>9 different NFC teams have gone to the Super Bowl in the past 9 years. I'd never really thought about that. That's pretty ridiculous.

Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Packers, Vikings, Lions, and Falcons are the teams that haven't made it. I'd say a few of those teams are realistic possibilities to make it next year and continue the streak, Vikings in particular.</font>

[MTH15]

Or the Falcons.....

[Ermaximus]

Fucking Andre Johnson being a greedy dick. I'm willing to bet he doesn't play this year because his 8 year, $60 million + $15 million in incentives isn't enough.

[McLegend]

Get your money when you can.

[IC Champion]

Fucking Andre Johnson being a greedy dick. I'm willing to bet he doesn't play this year because his 8 year, $60 million + $15 million in incentives isn't enough.

Yeah, Brandon Marshall got a new deal, so now Andre wants to rip this contract up too, which is funny because his contract was reneogotiated a couple of years ago, this is a money grab, plain and simple. Not like a Chris Johnson, who had 2000 yards from scrimmage at a position where the next carry could be your last, and he's on a rookie contract making less than a million I believe.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Get your money when you can.

Exactly. In other leagues and sports I might have a different view of the situation, but this is the NFL. You're not guaranteed shit and each play could be the last. Owners and GMs have no problem cutting people, so they should have no problem when players pull this stunt.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Now of course they could do what Marvin Lewis successfully did with Chad Johnson two years ago and call their bluffs, but we're not talking 30 year old aging stars. We're talking two of the five best players in the NFL. You don't want to mess around with that.

[Ermaximus]

Jack Del Rio is "contemplating" starting Luke McCown at QB. WTF? If they are dumb enough to do this, then they aren't even trying to hide the fact they are moving to LA.

[IC Champion]

Exactly. In other leagues and sports I might have a different view of the situation, but this is the NFL. You're not guaranteed shit and each play could be the last. Owners and GMs have no problem cutting people, so they should have no problem when players pull this stunt.

You realize this would be his second contract he's had torn up already, and he's like already 3 years into a contract that was front end loaded, which means he's already been paid a large chunk of change, so pretty much he wants more guarenteed on another contact after getting something like the 8 year 60 million contract he already has. I could see if he was on a rookie contract still, but he got big money from the Texans a couple times already, this just being greedy.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's working within the system. That's the same system that allows owners to terminate contracts whenever they want. He didn't make the system and he can't change the system. If he gets injured, he'll never see another dime. Why wouldn't he hold out for more money?

[IC Champion]

He's working within the system. That's the same system that allows owners to terminate contracts whenever they want. He didn't make the system and he can't change the system. If he gets injured, he'll never see another dime. Why wouldn't he hold out for more money?

You realize he is guarenteed a certain amount of money on that contract right? If he played opening day got injured and never played again, he'd get what was guareenteed to him. He's got 5 years left on a contract he renegeotiated 3 years ago. I read he is guarenteed 25%, which isn't good, but when you let your uncle act as your agent, that shit happens.

I agree with the players when it comes to most labour disputes, because the players aren't being giving guarenteed money with guarenteed contracts, and in the NFL players need to make as much as fast as they can, being the sport it is. But this has nothing to do with it at all, it's about someone not wanting to pay an agent, letting his uncle negeotiate his contract, and then three years later being unhappy with it because the market has changed. Grow up, and man up, and do your fucking job.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Why are you getting mad at someone for working within the system? I agree that the whole system needs to be changed, but that's not Johnson's responsibility. He's not going to get anything out of doing the right thing. He's looking out for himself just like everybody else. If he can get more money, why shouldn't he?

[IC Champion]

So what happens when the Texans don't pay him? And then he sits out?

He's got money, ALOT of money, he saw Larry Fitzgerald and Brandon Marshall get more money, and now he wants more. You realize his contract is shitty because he didn't have a proper agent? So who fault is that?

How is he working within the system, he signed a contract, now he should live up that obligation, instead of threatening to hold on the the team.

Teams and owners don't get to renegeoiate deals with players they feel they are over-paying, the Texans have already given him two different contracts and have done him right, he is just being greedy, and regrets signing his last contract, again who's fault is that?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Who cares about fault? This has nothing to do with fault. This is about obligation and opportunity. He has the opportunity to make more money, and the rules of the league don't oblige him to honor his contract, so why can't he make more money?