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NoJabbaNoBogRoll
02-21-2010, 06:14 AM
In the last three years, Jardine has only won two fights... Both by split decision.

In that same time period, he's been knocked out four times, plus a unanimous decision loss.

Here, for quick reference:

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-moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">15𤖫</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Thiago Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiago_Silva)</td> <td align="left">KO (Punches)</td> <td align="left">UFC 102: Couture vs. Nogueira (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_102)</td> <td align="left">02009-08-29 August 29, 2009</td> <td>1</td> <td>1:35</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Portland, Oregon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland,_Oregon), US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US)</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(255, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">15𤂿</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Quinton Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinton_Jackson)</td> <td align="left">Decision (unanimous)</td> <td align="left">UFC 96: Jackson vs. Jardine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_96)</td> <td align="left">02009-03-07 March 7, 2009</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">5:00</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Columbus, Ohio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus,_Ohio), United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)</td> <td><small>Won Fight Of The Night</small></td> </tr> <tr style="text-align: center;"> <td style="background: rgb(221, 255, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td align="center">15𣯓</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Brandon Vera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vera)</td> <td align="left">Decision (Split)</td> <td align="left">UFC 89: Bisping vs Leben (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_89)</td> <td align="left">02008-10-18 October 18, 2008</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">5:00</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) Birmingham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham), England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England), UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK)</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(255, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">14𣯓</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil) Wanderlei Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlei_Silva)</td> <td align="left">KO (Punches)</td> <td align="left">UFC 84: Ill Will (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_84)</td> <td align="left">02008-05-24 May 24, 2008</td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="center">0:36</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Las Vegas, Nevada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas,_Nevada), United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(221, 255, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-yes2">Win</td> <td align="center">14𣛧</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Chuck Liddell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Liddell)</td> <td align="left">Decision (Split)</td> <td align="left">UFC 76: Knockout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_76)</td> <td align="left">02007-09-22 September 22, 2007</td> <td align="center">3</td> <td align="center">5:00</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Anaheim, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaheim,_California), United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)</td> </tr> <tr align="center"> <td style="background: rgb(255, 221, 221) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center;" class="table-no2">Loss</td> <td align="center">13𣛧</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Houston Alexander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Alexander)</td> <td align="left">KO (Punches)</td> <td align="left">UFC 71: Liddell vs. Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_71)</td> <td align="left">02007-05-26 May 26, 2007</td> <td align="center">1</td> <td align="center">0:48</td> <td align="left">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) Las Vegas, Nevada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Vegas,_Nevada), United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)</td></tr></tbody></table>

Impact!
02-21-2010, 07:04 AM
Nah, right now he's a good gate keeper.

The Mask
02-21-2010, 09:12 AM
no shame in losing to the people he's lost to i suppose.

The Mask
02-21-2010, 09:14 AM
maybe shoved to prelims or something rather than being cut altogether. ufc need to be wary of cutting fighters who might make a strikeforce/dream card more interesting.

Impact!
02-21-2010, 09:28 AM
Houston - Underestimated
Chuck - Won Fight
Wanderlei - Got Caught (/It's motherfuckin Wanderlei :p )
Vera - Won Fight (against a guy who is pretty solid)
Rampage - Lost very close fight
Thiago - Got caught, was doing well
Bader - Possibly underestimated?

Basically I'd say give him someone like Luis Cane, Te Huna or even Schafer to see where he stands.

Also off topic but am I the only one who would like to see Bonnar attempt a drop to Middleweight?

The Mask
02-21-2010, 09:48 AM
bonnar needs to do something. get the feeling his heart isn't in it anymore.

Nark Order
02-21-2010, 11:28 AM
I don't think so. He's lost his last 3 fights but all of his fights have been against top competition and he puts up a competitive fight every time. It's not like he gets rolled on constantly.

Krimzon7
02-21-2010, 11:45 AM
I do think they should cut Jardine.

I also think Bonnar sees the ceiling at 205, and he sees the ceiling at 185. He knows he isn't a contender in either class, and that has to suck.

Nark Order
02-21-2010, 11:55 AM
All Jardine's fights have been very hard fights for the most part. I suppose if he did what Bisping did and fight only cans then he'd have alot more wins. Jardine takes all fights that come his way. He wins some against top guys, he loses some. Bisping only fights cans and loses whenever he takes on a fight against some legitimate opposition. I'd rather have Jardine's career, I'd say.

IC Champion
02-21-2010, 02:32 PM
Jardine wont get cut for the simple fact that he will always stand and bang, and give a decent fight at the least.

Vastardikai
02-21-2010, 03:24 PM
^

And c'mon if he leaves UFC, he will go full blown Techno Viking at SF.

Dave Youell
02-21-2010, 04:16 PM
Jardine wont get cut for the simple fact that he will always stand and bang, and give a decent fight at the least.

Yet they cut Houston?

(whom I loved)

Reavant
02-21-2010, 04:19 PM
Yet they cut Houston?

(whom I loved)

he doesnt stand and bang anymore

Dave Youell
02-21-2010, 04:31 PM
he doesnt stand and bang anymore

It's still real to me dammit! :'(

Innovator
02-22-2010, 01:32 PM
Where is the yes - I just don't like him?

Mr. JL
02-22-2010, 03:32 PM
I say he should be cut. I had no idea his record was that bad. He's a good fighter but he just does not have the chin.

Reavant
02-22-2010, 04:51 PM
if he loses to someone who isnt top competition then he should end up being cut but not yet

Funky Fly
03-02-2010, 08:37 PM
I don't want to see him go, but all these KOs are bad for your health.