LOL retcon.

So...Is the irony that you misuse grammar, or that you do sound like a sociopath? Otherwise, it's been picked up. Move on. Accept the burn, and stop trying to revise things.

Last time I posted pictures, oddly enough. Well, a couple weeks after. Maybe you think that's fair because it's beyond some invisible statute of limitations or something, but a spade is a spade.

I did admit it. That is what the irony comment to BDC was about. :lol:

In a sentence so close to where I was talking about how close to illiterate BDC is, I made a typo. Egg on my face. First time BDC would have ever picked up on something like that. I pointed it out and congratulated him.

Prove what point? That what happened on ECW actually happened? I don't need to prove that. KK trying to disprove it, or calling everyone liars until someone serves him the video is sad. He is uneducated on Jack Swagger, and that is not my problem.

He doesn't have to like him, nor does BDC. I couldn't care less. BDC, for the most part, has a horrible taste in wrestlers. KK is cynical before he wakes up in the morning. I will say that neither appears to be too up-to-date on Swagger's run on ECW as a whole, so neither really has a fully formed opinion of him. Good for them.

oh sweet jesus guys

No, that wasn't a retcon. I love the way you accuse me of making stuff up. You finally got it with the misuse grammar stuff, but lose points for bringing up the sociopath stuff (wrong), needing 100 hints, and telling me to stop revising things when you brought them up. Dick.

Again, I accepted the burn from the start. That's why I went back and patched it up, and gave BDC kudos for picking up on the irony of the situation. Been there, done that. Get with it, dude.

You didn't click on a thread about Jack Swagger and expect it to be a thread about Jack Swagger, did you?

Looking back, I think the point was to get the title off Matt than to get the title on Swagger. I agree with ABT's point about Swagger being the de facto best choice due to ECW's thin roster (unless they were to *gasp* have a vacant title). Finlay wouldn't have fought Matt for it in face v. face, Boogen is Boogen, Henry is terrible, Tommy will feud for it later this year, Miz and Morrison are tag champs...I think that's everyone...

I think Troy McClure has potential, but I don't think he'll get higher than the IC title.

I agree with you on everything but on where Swagger will get. I think he can do far better.

You guys are all wasting a lot of energy on nothing. Like what you like and discuss it, but stop resorting to argument over irrelevant shit. It's all the extension of an undying vendetta anyways, and for people criticizing eachothers skills and logic of argument, you all employ classic fallacies.
Irrelevance, ad hominem, red herring, appeals to innapropriate authority.

KK loves to harp on strawman, but it's not the only argument that's flawed. Every type he uses is just as easily categorized as fallacy.

Good luck guys.

I hate to disagree with BDC, and even more so if it means taking Noid's side, but I like The Swag.
Solid in the ring. In the ring he reminds me of some of the old school AWA wrestlers. I didn't catch his promo on Dreamer, but I do want to see him with a mouth piece like Hayes. If they don't do that then give him a diva search loser, or do a face diva/heel wrestler pair with Kelly Kelly. It would give her air time, and it would give us another reason to hate The Swag.


Albeit "The All American" American name is a little too much.

Right now I consider the ECW title to be the beginner's title. They may throw it to a guy like Matt or Kane every so often to keep it credible, but as a World Title they've had it on just as many new faces. They gave Morrison a pretty good run with it, arguably the Lashley run, Punk, now this guy.

P.S., I am not siding with or against anybody in this endless fued. I just think it's awful. It spills over into every thread, and is disguised as being on topic when it clearly represents a bigger problem.

KK and BDC, you guys did the same thing in casual with Jon Kano and it sucked. It's not that I think anyone right or wrong, I just think it's petty.
Neither side is going to sway, and you're all of the mind that you're correct and superior. So let it be.

Big arguments and fueds are fun. But not all the time in every thread

tpww pacifist

I haven't seen a recent picture of you in the photo album in like two years. Beyond that, I hardly posted at all on TPWW from August to November. Even since my return, I know I haven't seen any picture of you, let alone made fun of them. You sure you don't have me confused with somebody else?

KK, Noid and BDC ruin anouther thread :n:

The only things I really hate about Swagger is that dumb one-piece tights he wears to the ring, and that Jimmy Carter-esque smile (see the pic on the first page if you don't know what I'm talking about.

God I hate the wrestling forum sometimes

and Ricky Ortiz, fuck that guy

:lol:
Swagger is ok, but he's no champ right now. The ECW title should be vacant, with a good tournament, using some Raw and SD! guys that aren't doing much of anything right now. This way we can have an ECW title scene with some seldom used talent, and thus a more entertaining angle than what we currently have now.

I want to delete this thread so bad

It's odd. They clearly have high hopes for Swagger, but they're almost using the championship to turn him into a good worker. The issue with that is your champion should always be one of your ring generals. They shouldn't have to be lead through their matches as that severely limits your possibilities in terms of possible feuds.

I saw his promo tonight, pretty good stuff actually.

Agreed.

Agreed, also the match was pretty good too.

And even then, the results were lackluster (Judging by the IWC...).

But then, the ECW title doesn't count, so it's safe.

The match was very good.

I know, I was just making an observation.

Most of it yes, but when you're a rookie you ALWAYS work the veterans match. You don't call anything, you don't do anything. You play his game.

Find where I said he should be the champ.

He would absolutely set a precedent for the first guy to have held a belt before he was ready.

Troy McClure. Not coming to mind. Where might I remember him from?

You might remember him from such wrestling shows as The Gut Wrench Power Bomb: The Rookie's Finisher, and Life as a Jobber: the Iron Mike Sharpe Story.

ROFLLL

Trust me, no one is more against giving guys titles when they're green than me. However, given that they have I think he's doing a fine job.

I don't follow you.

I want the assist on that one, thed!

I barely watch ECW because it airs Friday night at midnight, but what I've seen from Swagger has been "meh". He has the look and personality of an under midcarder. He could be the kind of guy who will grow into their role after a few years. I'm not doubting his ability at all. WWE wouldn't have given him the ECW title if they didn't see something special in him. I just don't think he's ready to be any kind of champ so soon. Maybe a tag champ if he had a real partner. But this is also pretending that the titles actually mean something these days.

His music does not suit him at all. It's way too cool. They could have given that to The Brian Kendrick, Morrison, Miz, or someone else.

They needed to get the title off Hardy. I am 100% sure that is why Swagger has the title right now rather than 6 months from now.

It's not really been hot shotted though. He had a good defense against Hardy at RR. Hardy had to drop it to someone, and Swagger was probably the only viable candidate only ECW at the time, but I don't think it's worked out badly.

What about Finlay?

I know you have. I didn't agree.

All those choices are terrible except for Morrison and he is preoccupied.

Also, I think it fit better with the storyline for Hardy to not even be able to beat a rookie at this point in time while his brother is far surpassing him in the main event. It helped build the frustration imo.

1) We just saw Hardy/Henry. If anything looks like "hotshotting it would be a putting the title back on Henry.

2) They seem to be saving Dreamer for the summer. For that to be viable they need to build him up too. Yeah, he's Tommy Dreamer, but on ECW, he hasn't exactly been HHH. That's why he's in an angle where he says he's going to retire if he can't win the title. For him to up and beat Henry at Mania would be pretty iffy right now.

3) Any of the other guys in ECW, not viable. Miz and Morrison are solidly in their team. Finlay and Dreamer don't make sense because they would be booking face v. face, which is a rarity in the WWE.

I'd prefer any of those guys. Well, except "that guy who tags with Morrison."

Not really.

Echo Chamber.

I'd rather see Hornswoggle as ECW champion than be subjected to Mark Henry again.

:y:

There are flaws with all of those guys as ECW Champion. The only one I can maybe agree with is Finlay. Already, at this stage of his career, Jack Swagger is already better than Mark Henry. If Henry wins another title soon, it'll hopefully be a Tag Team Championship, just to keep him out of the main event picture.

John Morrison & The Miz are involved too heavily in their tag team shit, right now. Besides, I personally feel that John Morrison winning the ECW Title would actually be a step backwards for him. He's already held it. After he breaks up with The Miz, it should be onto either RAW or SmackDown! in a more prominent role. As for The Miz, I don't quite think people take him seriously enough yet, even though he is improving. If Tommy Dreamer does win the ECW Title in June, I see The Miz being the one to win it off him then. But that's only if Dreamer beats Swagger for the belt, which is a long-shot.

As for Tommy Dreamer winning the ECW Title? It completely cuts into his intriguing story. Dreamer is still solid in the ring, and a good promo man, but he needs to be built up. Swagger already went over Dreamer by the time they decided to take the ECW Title off Matt Hardy, anyway.

The only option I think could be reasoned as being a better choice than Jack Swagger right now, is Finlay. But those two are feuding now anyway.

Being green and relatively unknown is a bigger flaw than anything you're putting up against the other guys. Yeah, you like Swagger better than Mark Henry. Henry may suck, but he's a former champion, a big name relative to the WWE's currents, and a monster. Beating him could easily make someone look good regardless of his status as a glorified paperweight.

You all are always the first to complain about WWE not making new stars and then when they try to do it there's a load of bitching about it. Come on.

If you're gonna lie, Narc, make it believable.

That aside, wanting them to push new people and not wanting them to push green people are not mutually exclusive thoughts.

Contradiction? Failed.

You can't honestly think you don't do that. Seriously, even you aren't that stupid.

You're the most wishy washy poster on this board you simply bitch abnout what ever is currently happening, irrelevent of whether or not you were bitch about the exact opposite thing just months before.

You of all people shouldn't be calling me on either making shit up or being stupid. :)

You can play that card all day KK. I'm no liar. You go around calling everyone liar's when they point out your flaws, I'm beging to think you're delusional.

LOL. Keep trying, Des. Maybe if you wish really hard, your bullshit will become true.

Yeah bro, gotta be bs cause you think otherwise. You need to pull you head out of your ass brother. Seriously.

Wrong account?

Hello, Pot!

Go on. Find some cases. Get back to me when you do.

Again...Take your own advice?

LOL how many times have you used this same bs with Noid?

Get a new stchick KK. No ones buys your bull shit.*

*except BDC

I'm not arguing with you BDC. I have no clue why you seem to think you have a dog in this fight.

I told you pages ago you were right.

You were the one arguing about grammer on page 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDC Yeah, my bad, I just love the penis.

It's cool.

LOL, you edited your post.

The first reply was better

KK, what about what I said is not the truth?

1.) Everybody on here bitches that news stars aren't being made more often. Including you.
2.) When WWE attempts to make new stars everybody bitches about it. Including you.

I don't know where you're getting all this lying of mine from. He's green, sure. But we haven't really seen where WWE is going with all this and ECW championship isn't exactly the highest pinnacle that a wrestler can achieve. So all of this 'blowing their load' stuff everyone is going on about doesn't even apply. It seems as if they're going with a slow buildup.

WTF is going on in here?

Destor's penis?

He hasn't seen it for years because it's been buried in your mama's poonjabi prison

Can this be changed to the original topic title and then just left FFS.

Don't let us have any fun or anything THE MACKEM