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Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2449628)
Hyperbole works best when the person practicing it is, you know, good at it.

Tedious, no one ever has, nor ever will, love you. See, I'm damn good at hyperbole. It's an easy thing. It's exaggeration. The only way to mess it up is to not exaggerate at all. Also, considering you went into a flurry trying to defend against the emphasis I placed, I'd say it was damn effective in making a point to you.

Unfortunately, hyperbole can fall on idiots' ears.

Xero 02-26-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2449641)
Define ease. :shifty:

12. Shipbuilding. to trim (a timber of a wooden hull) so as to fair its surface into the desired form of the hull.

Juan 02-26-2009 09:30 PM

This thread has turned into a hot mess

Theo Dious 02-26-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2449645)
12. Shipbuilding. to trim (a timber of a wooden hull) so as to fair its surface into the desired form of the hull.

So Shawn Michaels is also bigger than Goldberg in seamanship.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2448979)
Haha....You actually spelled facetious the way I told you to....:shifty:

No, but seriously, BDC, it's retarded to expect people to always denote when they're not being absolutely literal, and nobody should ever realistically expect that. And if it weren't Noid as the center of this argument, it wouldn't be so goddamn hilarious. Let Noid's "Chris Crocker" squad bitch about how I'm attacking Noid, but something like 80% of the time he argues with me ends up being based on him taking literal that which shouldn't be, so it's adorable that he's casting stones from that glass house.

But BDC, now you're taking the Noid approach. "God Dammit, Noid, I'm too stupid to properly interpret your non-literal statements, so it's your fault!"

I've never understood this "Noid is linear" thing you have with me. Being non-linear in my every day life has actually got me into quite a bit of trouble. Sometimes I take issue with the way you say things (no offense, but you sound like the most unpleasant person in the world to know sometimes), but very rarely do I take anything you say literally. I know you're acting like a cock because you can. But that's the problem I have with it.

But thank you for not taking BDC's side just because you can.

Also, the reason Tedious is attacking me so vehemently is because I agreed with the statement that in one form or another, Goldberg might just be more relevant than Shawn Michaels. Something that even Xero has conceded to.

Theo Dious 02-26-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2449643)
Tedious, no one ever has, nor ever will, love you. See, I'm damn good at hyperbole. It's an easy thing. It's exaggeration.

Um... Noid...

Hyperbole:
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

What you just did there in that quote is actually:

Irony:
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.

Now, what word am I looking for here... ah yes:

Jackass:
1. a male donkey.
2. a contemptibly foolish or stupid person; dolt; blockhead; ass.

Mr. Nerfect 02-26-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2449638)
Backstage and with non-fair-weather fans, Michaels wins out. With ease.

Backstage, definitely. With non-fair-weather fans? I'll give you that, but I think Goldberg not being in the industry right now would have a lot to do with that. When Goldberg was around, he was the guy in WCW. Shawn Michaels has never been the guy in WWE.

I have never tried to make the implication that Goldberg is "better" than Shawn Michaels in any more than one area: appreciation with casual fans and the general population of the world. It's a very shallow victory, as it pertains to a wrestler's relationship with people who have a very passing interest in wrestling.

Discussing this with smarks is a bad idea. We can get very protective, and as we're immersed in the wrestling world, we get quite defensive when someone tries to tell us that "Wrestler We Hold in High Esteem" can't do this or that, and "Wrestler We Know Is Asshole and Had Easy Street" can.

I'm going to try and compare the Shawn Michaels: Greatest Ever(?) debate to something in film, another of my passions. When listing the greatest movie of all-time, there are certain correct answers. Citizen Kane, The Godfather, etc. That doesn't mean that they are your favourite movies. They are just regarded as "the best." I might really like Rear Window, which is an absolute classic, but is just not one of those "correct" answers. It's still a classic, and has influenced so many other great movies.

Rear Window is how I think of Shawn Michaels.

BigDaddyCool 02-26-2009 09:48 PM

Noid, shut up.

Kane Knight 02-26-2009 10:52 PM

I think if BDC and I rehearsed, we'd agree more often.

Impact! 02-27-2009 01:14 AM

lol man this thread has gone downhill

Dave Youell 02-27-2009 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2448990)
Though I do get considerably fewer hits under "Shawn Micheals," so I'm wondering if Youell just spelled it like he did in his post.

Most likely

I'll conceed defeat now

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2009 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2449657)
Um... Noid...

Hyperbole:
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”

Bingo. See the landmark post where Kane Knight actually supported me for further clarification on this.

Kane Knight 02-27-2009 01:03 PM

I love how Noid tried to redefine what I said. Good job on both the redefinition and the hypocrisy. Now, let's get back to something lighter, like the etymology of chairmanual.

BigDaddyCool 02-27-2009 03:38 PM

See, Chairmanual is the booklet or possibly sheet of paper that instructs you on how to put the chair together when you pull it out of the box. Somehow, it is also the same as Vince McMahon because of Noid logic.

Kane Knight 02-27-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2450343)
See, Chairmanual is the booklet or possibly sheet of paper that instructs you on how to put the chair together when you pull it out of the box. Somehow, it is also the same as Vince McMahon because of Noid logic.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Noid's dictionary gaffes are all satire. Nobody can honestly botch the English language that horribly without doing so intentionally.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2450237)
I love how Noid tried to redefine what I said. Good job on both the redefinition and the hypocrisy. Now, let's get back to something lighter, like the etymology of chairmanual.

No, I didn't try to redefine what you said. I took exactly what you said, and directed Tedious to it.

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2009 11:04 PM

Also, chairmanual isn't a word. :roll:

Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2009 11:04 PM

If you want something to put a chair together, you want "instructions." Or the "manual."

blake639raw 02-27-2009 11:53 PM

Noid is right guys. Get the fuck out of your bubble. Goldberg does suck, but the lowest common demoninator always sells. Goldberg was a bigger draw than HBK. I guarantee you that Goldberg made more money in 98 than Michaels did in any two of his years put together. Michaels has been around alot longer, and contributed alot more to the business due to the length he's been around, but if you ask any casual person on the street to name a wrestler, you'd be surprised how many people like Goldberg, even though to me he is the shits. It's called the ability to look at things objectively, a trait most smarks don't possess.

***awaits obligatory Kane Knight slander post***

Mr. Nerfect 02-28-2009 12:52 AM

Thank you, blake.

Krimzon7 02-28-2009 09:34 AM

So, when Michaels retires, we'll bring up Goldberg?


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