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Kane Knight 04-10-2004 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thuganomicalcrippler
You fail to understand me, sir. I mean to say that if he cares so much about the mentally challenged, he would be sensitive to the usage of the word "retard" and hence wouldn't describe me so, which is precisely what he did when he bad repped me a month or two ago.

yeah, because using a term like retard, which is now outdated by the medical community, as an insult, is the same as pissing all over the legitimately mentally challenged...

VonErich Lives 04-11-2004 04:55 AM

Read something on pwtorch.com and someone had a good point.

How is it OK for South Park to have "Timmy" purely for humorus purposes but not the wwe...

Wrestling is fake, someone shoudl tell cnn it's not a read dead man wrestling either.

saw another funny idea... Orton goes for heel heat to beat Eugene, Eugene wins the belt, then tells everyone it was all a ploy to fake out Orton. Like the Usual suspects.

Rock Bottom 04-11-2004 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
I Can not believe the balls that sorry sob Bubba Ray Dudley has..this chacter is beyond disgraceful...he thinks he can set up a table when he really can't...I work in the housekeeping department of my school and this is just very disturbing to me...Every night he tries to set up a table, and he always fiddles with the metal thing on the legs when he should know damn well that gravity will pull it into place for him.... I find it VERY sickening....i hope he anbd the guy portraying "Devon" both burn in hell togethere someone goes to far. I was watching it in the home I live in and the tables got a little upset when seeing that...it just felt wrong in my opinion...maybe

*****

First off I am FAR from politically correct I just feel like there is a point wherits because I have spent so much time with setting tables up because after I thought about it last night I realized that two years ago I may not have seen anything wrong with it. Lastley IMO I do not see how anyone who is around it all the time can see much humor in it.

u ript off my franchise parody post. u must die.

Corkscrewed 04-11-2004 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamuella
Because someone setting up a table is morally equivalent to making fun of developmentally disabled people

you suck at life.

Wow, you okay, Lammy, cuz you totally missed his sarcasm. :p


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So was he like rainman then?
That would have been about 1000 times funnier, because it's become such a comedic stereotype (at least on Who's Line...)

Heck, Dinsmore could have started shooting a little.

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Mr. Nerfect 04-12-2004 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Champion of Europa
It's funny, so I don't mind.

Odds are, when he gets into the ring he's gonna act all stupid then be like some wrestling prodigy and Regal tries to get him to act like that all the time and such.

I would love to see that. I was just thinking, Dinsmore's old nickname of Mr. Wrestling would be good here. I can see Regal trying to tell Eugene to think of an inventive alias to inspire fear into the heart of foes, like "Stone Cold" and "The Undertaker". Then Eugene just goes "Mr. Wrestling!". I personally can see Regal getting attatched to Dinsmore and turning fully babyface, even defending him when Eric doesn't. :y:

Then they could have Regal start to try and make him turn heel, before Dinsmore goes off on his own. But that's a long way off from now.

I personally was thinking that they'd pull a "Eric paid Eugene to act special in and out of matches just for the chance to appear on RAW". Then Disnmore might go over to SmackDown! where he would probably be more suited.

Corkscrewed 04-13-2004 12:24 AM

http://www.foxsports.com/netapp/power/

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12 April 2004
The following comes straight out of hte WWE concerning the direction of Eugene. Credit goes to PW Insider and Brad Jackson, who sent an e-mail to WWE to find out about Nick Dinsmore's character, Eugene. WWE responded with the following: We have introduced a new character on WWE Monday Night RAW, Eugene Dinsmore. Eugene is a person with a mental disability. His dream is to become a professional wrestler.

WWE intends to portray the character of Eugene as a hero, as are the many people with disabilities around the world (many of whom are WWE fans) who must face challenges to live the type of life many of us take for granted. Eugene, despite his disability, will get a chance to achieve his dream of becoming a professional wrestler. We hope that Eugene's story will encourage other people with disabilities to strive to achieve their dreams, whatever they may be. Story background: In the recent edition of Monday Night RAW, viewers learned that Eric Bischoff, an underhannded schemer, has a nephew named Eugene. At the behest of Bischoff's sister, he has let his nephew Eugene join RAW to pursue his dream of becoming a professional wrestler. Bischoff tricks the despicable William Regal, a slimy, upper crust Englishman, to manage Eugene. Upon meeting Eugene and seeing he has a mental disability, Regal immediately complains about his task, similar to how many people who are uncaring and ignorant initially react to the mentally handicapped. However, Eugene will persevere and he ultimately will get his change to perform in the ring.
Didn't they do that sort of thing with Zach Gowen... overcoming the odds.

Kane Knight 04-13-2004 02:13 AM

Well, they're gonna try and spin it positively...

I dunno. A handicapped person beating the odds makes for a cool and uplifting, if clichéd, story. A handicapped person getting screwed, and only bailed out bya couple of bigger stornger guys, only to finally secure his spot so he can be pushed around by Matt Hardy in Midcard Hell?

Different story.

I missed Raw tonight, so I don't know if/how it progressed.

My overall impression thus far is that this is about as much akin to the upliftign overcoming of the odds as Schindler's List is to a delightful comedic romp through the San Fernando Valley...

Heyman 04-13-2004 02:33 AM

The very fact that so many people are talking about Eugene and his gimmick, is a testament to the SUCCESSS of his gimmick. :y:

darkpower 04-13-2004 05:51 AM

Well, tonight was one of the nights that I thought they did better with Eugine. The thing with him calling Trish a slut was VERY good, and he did that thing where one angle crosses another (someone from one angle contributes to another angle for one segment).

Also, I think maybe they could be setting up a thing with La Resistance, because the other Eugine segment did with them. Basically, Eugine was having fun with the Quebec flag, and when Regal tried to apologize, Grenier and Conway weren't happy to either Regal or Eugine. Later, in the match, Eugine came out with a stuffed bunny (Easter thing), and they got upset, with Grenier tearing up the bunny, but, in turn, getting distracted long enough to cost him the match vs. Hurricane. Eugine wasn't happy that the bunny got torn up and was crying, but so was La Resistance for losing the match. That would be VERY interesting to see Regal become face from this angle and having HIM get back into the ring, and ANYTHING that gets La Resistance some more ring time is good for me.

Vastardikai 04-13-2004 06:53 AM

Who knows, if this whole Eugene thing doesn't work out, maybe they can change Mr. Dinsmore's name to the Red Rooster... :shifty:

Kane Knight 04-13-2004 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyman
The very fact that so many people are talking about Eugene and his gimmick, is a testament to the SUCCESSS of his gimmick. :y:

Well, since the measure of success of a gimmick comes from money, if all this talk doesn't boost ratings or create any revenue...

thuganomicalcrippler 04-13-2004 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Sunday Night
Hopefully this will lead to an angle where Eugene takes a nasty headshot and comes back from the hospital quoting Shakespeare and solving difficult math problems.

:y:

RGWhat316 04-13-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by darkpower
Well, tonight was one of the nights that I thought they did better with Eugine. The thing with him calling Trish a slut was VERY good, and he did that thing where one angle crosses another (someone from one angle contributes to another angle for one segment).

Also, I think maybe they could be setting up a thing with La Resistance, because the other Eugine segment did with them. Basically, Eugine was having fun with the Quebec flag, and when Regal tried to apologize, Grenier and Conway weren't happy to either Regal or Eugine. Later, in the match, Eugine came out with a stuffed bunny (Easter thing), and they got upset, with Grenier tearing up the bunny, but, in turn, getting distracted long enough to cost him the match vs. Hurricane. Eugine wasn't happy that the bunny got torn up and was crying, but so was La Resistance for losing the match. That would be VERY interesting to see Regal become face from this angle and having HIM get back into the ring, and ANYTHING that gets La Resistance some more ring time is good for me.

I enjoyed Eugene on RAW myself this week. The deal with Trish and the Easter Bunny were great. Plus Eugene was getting pops from the Chicago crowd, so I think its interesting.

Heyman 04-13-2004 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Well, since the measure of success of a gimmick comes from money, if all this talk doesn't boost ratings or create any revenue...

I think the gimmick shows a lot of potential....and has shown great initial signs of success. If the WWE chooses to push Eugene, I wouldn't be surprised (at this point) if Eugene makes money for the company .

darkpower 04-14-2004 06:49 AM

Actually, I think Eugine worked BETTER this week than last, because he actually was able to even push a few buttons in the angles himself, and again, I would LOVE to see Regal turn face from this and feud with La Resistance, as all four of them would, I think, put on a good show.

Because, look at it this way, you have a mentally challenged ass kicker (that could be used as a dangerous weapon if you make any mentally unstable person angry), Regal, who we've been wanting to come back for the LONGEST time, and La Resistance would actually have something to DO besides getting buried in this "Frence sympathizing" crap that they use to kill them even more (nothing against the French. This is coming from a person who'll vote for John Kerry this November for similar reasons, but that's beside the point). I think this will be GOOD TIMES if these four are allowed to work with each other.

Wondermouse 04-14-2004 07:14 AM

Perhaps WWE could make a political statement by having Eugene join La Resistance.

I'd do it just to see the Lords of the Ring.

Kane Knight 04-14-2004 12:19 PM

:wtf:


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