Yeah i thought so. Some people are just inherently sexist and get mad when that is challenged or presented to them. That was sexist tho

'Little boys' woulda done the same tho dude. This is a hugely sexist industry but we dont need to feed it

Im fucking dead serious. No need to lower ourselves man. Ill shut up about it now but you must see what i mean?

He's not horrible on the mic but he is not in the Rock, Austin, Jericho, Foley, JBL's league. And people don't hate on Cena because it's the cool thing to do. They hate on him because he is not entertaining to watch or listen to.

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44 posts or 44,000 posts, so many on these forums, especially lately, get upset should you challenge what they say/disagree with it or tell them you dislike their posts or get upset when called something as horrible as 'a delusional fool', often jumping to the 'you're a troll' or 'boo hoo he called me a name' or 'you think you're better than me' and so on. When it's nothing but a case of 'I think your post is stupid and I will happily tell you that'.

Dude, have you read anything I wrote above? My main beefs with you in the previous posts were you not sticking to the topic and pointlessly name calling. Normally, I overlook that kind of ignorance, but here I responded b/c you seem to hate difference of opinion. Just b/c my sarcasm didn't conform to your definition of the word, you flamed me. Which btw in alot of cases here cannot be assertained simply by reading words and not understanding how someone wrote it. I actually welcome difference of opinion, no matter if I think your stupid or delusional. That's why I usually don't post on wrestling forums, b/c pricks tend to take this place way too seriously. This to me should be an open forum for wrestling fans to share their thoughts, not be censored by know it all jerks.

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And 'taking the high road' would have been not responding at all or ignoring my comments and so forth. But you couldn't do that due to your precious feelings being hurt (based on something that was written on the internet by a person you don't know nor have any affiliation with) when you construed me calling a spade a spade as something more. Which simply isn't and I doubt ever will be the case. The same point basically goes for the rest of you Sensitive Sally's that might read this. For the most part, you are big boys. Stop acting like little girls should anything negative come your way and for the love of God stop taking everything so seriously.

The high road was me attempting to stay on topic and not make it personal by name calling or flaming. Opinions are open to interpretation, so why scrutinize every detail? Not agreeing with me is fine and well, but you seem to have a double standard in that department. It's ok for you to call a spade a spade, but when I do the same it's stupid, or the ramblings of a delusional fool. Again, why I detest wrestling forums. One opinion is viewed as valid and the other is discounted b/c the one person is narrow minded. And to be clear, I'm not being "sensitive" or acting like a little girl. If voicing my opinions here makes me stupid, then I guess I'll join the club. Interesting you say I take it seriously though, considering you haven't let it go. I try to stay on topic and be objective, but here that isn't gonna happen. So, good riddance.:foc:

I am not taking the piss. Fair enough i am completely guilty of what you said but as we grow we learn right? I wasn't aware of the level of sexism in wwe or for that matter, in any walk of life until it was pointed out to me about a year ago and i am just trying to make a point here. It goes over most people's heads because they are so used to it and it is treated as normal.

I saw your response a few hours ago, I responded because the thread was bumped and because my post was aimed at others as well as yourself. And talking of taking it seriously, you weren't online then appeared with a lengthy response in the time it took me to read and respond to Jeremy TB29's post. Meaning you either copied my post and took time to respond to it elsewhere or can type faster than E.T can read.

I don't think he can really be judged on the mic compared to the likes of those guys yet strictly because he's been aimed at kids for the last 6-7 years. I personally believe he is as good as most of those only he hasn't been able to cut the 'cool' promos. I've said for a ridiculous amount of time that should he turn heel at any point, we'll see some really special promos from Cena.

I don't think he can really be judged on the mic compared to the likes of those guys yet strictly because he's been aimed at kids for the last 6-7 years. I personally believe he is as good as most of those only he hasn't been able to cut the 'cool' promos. I've said for a ridiculous amount of time that should he turn heel at any point, we'll see some really special promos from Cena.[/QUOTE]

Whoomp there it is

well i certainly made a balls of that quote

Great interview, don't rly like him but he seems like a 'cool dude' tbf.

:lol: I forgot about those shitty actresses who played his wife..god they were terrible

I fucking love your avatar MoFo, its just mental

I <3 yrs too, its sexy

i need a piss and it almost came out early there, that picture is fucking great

Same here, you weren't online when I posted the response your referring to, then when I was responding, I saw your previous reply. Meaning, the timing was coincidental. Otherwise, I have only talked about Orton's interview. Not really interested in repeating myself. Kinda way too redundant...

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I don't think he can really be judged on the mic compared to the likes of those guys yet strictly because he's been aimed at kids for the last 6-7 years. I personally believe he is as good as most of those only he hasn't been able to cut the 'cool' promos. I've said for a ridiculous amount of time that should he turn heel at any point, we'll see some really special promos from Cena.

Yes, but Orton clearly was comparing them now. He even took it so far as to claim he's "lightyears" ahead of anyone. A very laughable and ridiculous statement. All Cena usually does on the mic is made very bad jokes and keep saying he's being himself. Not very groundbreaking or creative. I will agree when he was a heel on SD in 2003, he was starting to be a unique mic worker, but since he's been face, he hasn't stood out. And far as the guys I listed that were better, I was simply pointing out Cena has a long way to go before he can be considered a great mic worker. But, Cena has been in the WWE for almost 10 years, and compared to the ppl I listed he isn't in their league yet. Maybe he can turn that perception around when he does finally turn heel(when and if that ever happens:D). However, as of right now, he isn't a very solid performer on the mic.

I wanna be very clear here though. I'm not a bandwagon Cena hater. I simply dislike the guy b/c he's a kid attraction who was loaded with potential. Back in 2003, I was a Cena fan, b/c he was working the mic well and pretty much ripping his opponents to bits on the mic. Then when they turned him face and drafted him to Raw, they trashed his gimmick and avoided it like the plague. Essentially killing any uniqueness or creativity his character had. That fact was never more apparent than when The Rock returned and verbally destroyed him. He had to return ro the rapping b/c that's the only way he could hope to stay up with The Rock on the mic. As the time draws closer to their WM 28 match, I really hope WWE turns Cena and we get to see some classic mic work...

Am I really the only one here that wasn't impressed with The Rock's mic work on his return?

The guy was chewing the scenery more than Brian Blessed.

Honestly, The Rock wasn't that impressive either. Clearly his mic work isn't what it used to be when he was a regular WWE wrestler. He did a decent job, but with him going into WM next year into the ME, he needs to bring more than a retort about Fruity Pebbles. If I hear that one more time, I swear Cena should literally carry a box of fruity pebbles to the ring and show him how ridiculous it is. Neither guy really stole the show after weeks and weeks of trash talking.

I wasn't so concerned with the content but more the delivery. He just seemed to shout. A lot. And over act. A lot.

I think most of that is b/c his delivery timing and reactions were off since he's rusty in the mic area. For the most part, he spoke the way he always did, only using worse material. If the content sucks, so does the promo. They are proof is you don't say the right things, then promos are irrelevant. Especially if it's only a retort and not a face to face promo battle. Putting no heart into the promo, coupled with bad lines can make even the best mic worker look weak. And Rock looked alot weaker than he did in the Attitude era...

The Rock was slightly, maybe just a tiny bit rusty and maybe all his acting classes possibly affected his delivery a little (cos he acted a bit too much) but his return promo was the best promo on RAW in a long time. It was funny and awesome when he mentioned Cena. This is another case of the eternally unsatisfied IWC member. For once just enjoy the fucking show as a fan and not a critic

Dunno bout that Punk. I'm a pretty big optimist when it comes to wrestling. I like most of what is going on and am the TPWW advocate for "STOP LIVING IN THE PAST" (i.e. "bring back the Attitude Era"). So, I wouldn't say I came under the "eternally unsatisfied" bracket.

The fact that he's spent the last 7 years acting would make me think he'd have a better grasp of the nuances of a monologue. But to me it just seemed he shouted a lot and did that oh-so-clever kiddie voice to mock Cena. Thoroughly unimpressed.

So what now? I can't be objective and review my opinion on a promo? Everyone here on the IWC gives their thoughts on wrestling, negative and positive. I'm sure even you see faults in one topic or another. If not, then you are a true mark. The fact of the matter is wrestling is at a down time, and it shows in their product. I will grant you his initial return promo was great, but after that, he carried the fruity pebble joke too far.

I do enjoy the shows, but their lack of effort is very apparent when something as big as The Rock's return is botched. If that makes me a critic for pointing out the obvious, then I guess label me a critic. I prefer to say I'm open minded enough to see the good and the bad, and review it fairly. Never ceases to amaze me that ppl who never met me jump to conclusions on wrestling forums.

Dunno what meeting you has to do with that but i can say this honestly, hand on heart, that if i met you i would jump your bones. You tasty little treat

Dude, I don't know whether that's a threat or a pick up line. Either way your a sick mofo:D

It's a pick up threat. Think of it as a kinda ass-raping but i will buy you flowers and chocolates before and after

You promise?:rofl:

If you're cute enough sure

Thanks for the clarification:cool: