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Old 06-29-2011, 02:29 PM   #1
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Randy Orton Interview
This is really good

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Old 06-29-2011, 06:01 PM   #2
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lol @ Cena being better than Rock on the mic
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An interesting interview. Although I laugh everytime I see Orton say Cena is "lightyears" ahead of everyone and The Rock on the mic. He obviously is seeing something I'm not. All I see is cheesy jokes and the same speech of him being himeself every week. Riddle me this Viper, if Cena owns The Rock so much, why did he have to goad him into a match by taking cheap shots?

Also hilarious that even Orton finds Cena's in ring style to be a joke.
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Riddle me this Viper, if Cena owns The Rock so much, why did he have to goad him into a match by taking cheap shots?
what is happening here
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I believe it's called "IRONY"...
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Riddle me this Viper, if Cena owns The Rock so much, why did he have to goad him into a match by taking cheap shots?
It's still real to you, dammit.
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It's still real to you, dammit.

Not real to me at all Big difference between stating facts and not knowing reality. The fact is if Cena was so great on the mic as Orton claimed, he wouldn't feel the need to prove himself against The Rock. Time after time he challenged The Rock or bad mouthed him all so he could wrestle him.

I thought the sarcasm or irony would've shown that, but some ppl don't get it:foc:
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Obviously Orton hasn't gotten over his concussion for him to be making those rediculous comments. And what does Orton know about being good on the mic? Jericho has way more credibiity because he is a GOD on the mic and he says the Rock is the best ever.
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I believe it's called "IRONY"...
No that is not called irony.

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I thought the sarcasm or irony would've shown that, but some ppl don't get it:foc:
You dont get it, you dont know if your own post was sarcasm or irony now

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Obviously Orton hasn't gotten over his concussion for him to be making those rediculous comments. And what does Orton know about being good on the mic? Jericho has way more credibiity because he is a GOD on the mic and he says the Rock is the best ever.
John Cena was rapping on the mic in 2003/2004 not long after he broke into the WWE and he was almost as good as The Rock even then. Hate on Cena cos its the popular/cool thing to do but he is absolutely superb on the stick. Doubting that is retarded, he has gotten over huge as a heel and face which is something internet darling CM Punk hasnt been able to do. The Rock is the only one who can touch Cena on the mic. The next level below them features guys like Austin, Michaels, Triple H, CM Punk, Hulk Hogan, Chris Jericho and maybe a few others
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No that is not called irony.
I was referring to my sarcasm above when CSL quoted me and asked me "what's going on here". Ironic to me he didn't catch the sarcasm when I said "Riddle me this Viper, if Cena's so good on the mic, why does he have to prove himself to The Rock?" If him saying that isn't irony, I don't know what is. Funny some ppl can be sarcastic, but not grasp the concept when someone else is...



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I pretty much think I covered that above. I do get it, but obviously my attempt at sarcasm was lost to the so called "intelligent ppl" here. Just to clarify, I didn't call my post irony, I was saying CSL quoting me asking a rhetorical question was ironic...
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how dare someone state their opinions during an interview!
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Why is everyone in the interview interrupting each other?
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Why is everyone in the interview interrupting each other?
Its on radio, all they are is a voice so they speak way way too much. Radio DJ's aren't the most skilled people in the world in fairness. Their job is press a button, say something loud kinda stuff
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Speaking of Jericho, I could use some Jericho goodness right now. I've thought him to be wallowing and overrated for a long time, and at the same time incredibly misused in some situations, but now that he's gone, I start going back to earlier shit and go man, he should be on that list of people I miss having around.

I think Jericho was right there with The Rock on the mic, personally. And I don't think Rock is as good as he used to be (in some respects, at least). But it isn't to the degree that Cena is even remotely in his league, or for that matter, Jericho's.

Before Jericho's second feud with The Rock over the undisputed title, and betraying him at Survivor Series, etc, there was a small period of time in which they cut promos together against HHH and Stephanie and all of them, and those were fucking great.
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But you blow off Cena so easily? Go to Youtube and check out his early rapping stuff. He was a relative newb back then but i remember thinking that he was as close to The Rock (on the mic) as we have ever seen. If he was allowed to continue with that character, whether he continued rapping all his promos or let it go a bit, we would all be discussing a very different John Cena today
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But you blow off Cena so easily? Go to Youtube and check out his early rapping stuff. He was a relative newb back then but i remember thinking that he was as close to The Rock (on the mic) as we have ever seen. If he was allowed to continue with that character, whether he continued rapping all his promos or let it go a bit, we would all be discussing a very different John Cena today
Because telling a rap makes you a good mic worker.If anything it made Cena better on the mic than he actually is. Once he couldn't rap anymore he got exposed. That's why he went back to rap to counter the Rock because it was the only way he can compete.
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Great interview. Good find, Punk.

Also, John Cena is the man.
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What you said wasn't close to resembling sarcasm. And there was no actual irony involved. I don't know, it's like you've opened the dictionary on a random page, closed your eyes and picked a word and decided to include it in your post in spite of context or any variety of sense.
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What you said wasn't close to resembling sarcasm. And there was no actual irony involved. I don't know, it's like you've opened the dictionary on a random page, closed your eyes and picked a word and decided to include it in your post in spite of context or any variety of sense.
Yeah, b/c obviously you're a psychic and know how I meant the post when I typed it. I find it hilarious that you say no irony was involved, considering your the one who claims to know more. IRONICALLY enough, you were the one who didn't catch the sarcasm as I intended it to be. Even more ironic that you claim I have no understanding of the word or context I used it in. Sounds like a weak arguement to me. If you're gonna talk not understanding meaning or lack thereof, try it on someone who doesn't get it. Dodging the issue doesn't make a solid arguement, it makes you look like a self righteous prick who thinks he knows it all...
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Riddle me this Viper, if Cena owns The Rock so much, why did he have to goad him into a match by taking cheap shots?
There is no way in the context of this thread (because that is what matters, your own imaginary context spoken of after the issue bears no relevance whatsoever to the thread or anybody else) that that post can be construed as sarcasm. If that's what you intended, you failed by some distance and that is nobody's fault but your own. Instead, it simply comes off as a glaringly stupid post, end of story. You can continue to bang on about whatever you claim to have meant and so forth but it simply doesn't matter because you completely botched it. And please, there is no issue to dodge you deluded fool, you just made a stupid post, it simply doesn't matter, you aren't the first. No matter how you attempt to spin it, that is all there is to it, no "issues", no "arguments". Done with.
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There is no way in the context of this thread (because that is what matters, your own imaginary context spoken of after the issue bears no relevance whatsoever to the thread or anybody else) that that post can be construed as sarcasm. If that's what you intended, you failed by some distance and that is nobody's fault but your own. Instead, it simply comes off as a glaringly stupid post, end of story. You can continue to bang on about whatever you claim to have meant and so forth but it simply doesn't matter because you completely botched it. And please, there is no issue to dodge you deluded fool, you just made a stupid post, it simply doesn't matter, you aren't the first. No matter how you attempt to spin it, that is all there is to it, no "issues", no "arguments". Done with.

Ok, one last time I will respond specifically to you. Appparently, you didn't catch my initial sarcasm. Fine and well. But, then you try and take personal shots at me b/c we don't agree on our definitions of sarcasm. Well, to me that comes off as a smark who thinks he more intelligent than me. Your entitled to your opinion. But, I disagree. We obviously have to agree to disagree, b/c you were the one who started going off topic, not me. I will say this though. For someone so arrogant to call me stupid and delusional, you sure feel the need to call names and respond to every reply I make. If I'm so off topic, delusional, and stupid, why waste your time? To me, that says you must be some insecure little troll who lives on these forums 24/7 with some kind of superiority complex. So, I will take the high road here and get back on topic(which btw is something you too have been doing even though you accuse me of the same thing).

chrisat928, I do agree The Rock took shots at Cena. Both were back and forth for a while before the match was set up. But, for the most part, Cena started the war of words by indirectly claiming The Rock was a sellout. Funny, considering Cena himself tried branching out into movies(less successfully I might add).

Overall, Orton's interview was an interesting read. I laughed when he all but called Kelly Kelly a slut. Also cool him mentioning Jericho being a badass confronting Vince and being a lockeroom leader. Kinda surprizing that The Rock got Orton in trouble with Vince by spreading untrue rumors. Guess CM Punk wasn't too far off calling Dwayne an asskisser...
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Because telling a rap makes you a good mic worker.If anything it made Cena better on the mic than he actually is. Once he couldn't rap anymore he got exposed. That's why he went back to rap to counter the Rock because it was the only way he can compete.
Do you rap? I dont but fuck me it aint easy. Its much much harder to rap than just talk so i dunno what the fuck you are on about. Cena went back to the rap because it allows him to talk non-PG smack, he probably used it to tease the smarks too. I loved rapping Cena so much and it made me smile hearing him do it again. Frankly your a fool if you dont think Cena can work a mic. Compare him to John Morrison, Batista, Daniel Bryan, Bret Hart, etc and tell me he cant do it. Some people just hate on Cena cos they think its the thing to do. Ill admit his wrestling ability is not what it probably could be but he has always been an excellent talker.

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Ok, one last time I will respond specifically to you.......Dwayne an asskisser...
Dude, move on
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Do you rap? I dont but fuck me it aint easy. Its much much harder to rap than just talk so i dunno what the fuck you are on about. Cena went back to the rap because it allows him to talk non-PG smack, he probably used it to tease the smarks too. I loved rapping Cena so much and it made me smile hearing him do it again. Frankly your a fool if you dont think Cena can work a mic. Compare him to John Morrison, Batista, Daniel Bryan, Bret Hart, etc and tell me he cant do it. Some people just hate on Cena cos they think its the thing to do. Ill admit his wrestling ability is not what it probably could be but he has always been an excellent talker.
Cena was somewhat entertaining on the mic when he did the raps, but he still wasn't awesome on the mic. And I don't hate on Cena b/c it's popular, it's b/c I'm objectively looking at his work. He went from a potential breakout star on the mic, to just another guy making cheesy jokes and trying to be another Rock. He obviously cannot improvise the way Rocky could in his prime, so he shouldn't try it. To compare him to any of those guys you listed is a flawed comparison, cause none were breakout stars that got complacent the way Cena has. The issue here was him supposedly being "lightyears" ahead of The Rock according to Orton. He isn't nearly as great as guys like The Rock, Austin, Taker(badass), Hogan, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Roddy Piper. etc. Orton is clearly biased towards Cena training and coming up through OVW and WWE together. But to claim he's the best on the mic is laughable and sad if he actually believes it. A good mic worker maybe, great? Not even close.



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What are we 5 here??? I made my point above and every time I try to move on, another smark like you flames me for voicing my opinion. Well, I got two letters for ya......FU:foc: At least if you're gonna quote me, don't randomly mix two different lines together out of context. Geez, some ppl here taking posting way too seriously...
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At least if you're gonna quote me, don't randomly mix two different lines together....posting?? seriously?
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Do you rap? I dont but fuck me it aint easy. Its much much harder to rap than just talk so i dunno what the fuck you are on about. Cena went back to the rap because it allows him to talk non-PG smack, he probably used it to tease the smarks too. I loved rapping Cena so much and it made me smile hearing him do it again. Frankly your a fool if you dont think Cena can work a mic. Compare him to John Morrison, Batista, Daniel Bryan, Bret Hart, etc and tell me he cant do it. Some people just hate on Cena cos they think its the thing to do. Ill admit his wrestling ability is not what it probably could be but he has always been an excellent talker.



Dude, move on
He's not horrible on the mic but he is not in the Rock, Austin, Jericho, Foley, JBL's league. And people don't hate on Cena because it's the cool thing to do. They hate on him because he is not entertaining to watch or listen to.
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Ok, one last time I will respond specifically to you. Appparently, you didn't catch my initial sarcasm. Fine and well. But, then you try and take personal shots at me b/c we don't agree on our definitions of sarcasm. Well, to me that comes off as a smark who thinks he more intelligent than me. Your entitled to your opinion. But, I disagree. We obviously have to agree to disagree, b/c you were the one who started going off topic, not me. I will say this though. For someone so arrogant to call me stupid and delusional, you sure feel the need to call names and respond to every reply I make. If I'm so off topic, delusional, and stupid, why waste your time? To me, that says you must be some insecure little troll who lives on these forums 24/7 with some kind of superiority complex. So, I will take the high road here and get back on topic(which btw is something you too have been doing even though you accuse me of the same thing).
44 posts or 44,000 posts, so many on these forums, especially lately, get upset should you challenge what they say/disagree with it or tell them you dislike their posts or get upset when called something as horrible as 'a delusional fool', often jumping to the 'you're a troll' or 'boo hoo he called me a name' or 'you think you're better than me' and so on. When it's nothing but a case of 'I think your post is stupid and I will happily tell you that'.

And 'taking the high road' would have been not responding at all or ignoring my comments and so forth. But you couldn't do that due to your precious feelings being hurt (based on something that was written on the internet by a person you don't know nor have any affiliation with) when you construed me calling a spade a spade as something more. Which simply isn't and I doubt ever will be the case. The same point basically goes for the rest of you Sensitive Sally's that might read this. For the most part, you are big boys. Stop acting like little girls should anything negative come your way and for the love of God stop taking everything so seriously.
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:10 PM   #32
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you are big boys. Stop acting like little girls should anything negative come your way
I agree with all you have said except this slightly sexist comment. Im not sure why being a girl/boy makes a difference
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:30 PM   #33
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44 posts or 44,000 posts, so many on these forums, especially lately, get upset should you challenge what they say/disagree with it or tell them you dislike their posts or get upset when called something as horrible as 'a delusional fool', often jumping to the 'you're a troll' or 'boo hoo he called me a name' or 'you think you're better than me' and so on. When it's nothing but a case of 'I think your post is stupid and I will happily tell you that'.


Dude, have you read anything I wrote above? My main beefs with you in the previous posts were you not sticking to the topic and pointlessly name calling. Normally, I overlook that kind of ignorance, but here I responded b/c you seem to hate difference of opinion. Just b/c my sarcasm didn't conform to your definition of the word, you flamed me. Which btw in alot of cases here cannot be assertained simply by reading words and not understanding how someone wrote it. I actually welcome difference of opinion, no matter if I think your stupid or delusional. That's why I usually don't post on wrestling forums, b/c pricks tend to take this place way too seriously. This to me should be an open forum for wrestling fans to share their thoughts, not be censored by know it all jerks.

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And 'taking the high road' would have been not responding at all or ignoring my comments and so forth. But you couldn't do that due to your precious feelings being hurt (based on something that was written on the internet by a person you don't know nor have any affiliation with) when you construed me calling a spade a spade as something more. Which simply isn't and I doubt ever will be the case. The same point basically goes for the rest of you Sensitive Sally's that might read this. For the most part, you are big boys. Stop acting like little girls should anything negative come your way and for the love of God stop taking everything so seriously.


The high road was me attempting to stay on topic and not make it personal by name calling or flaming. Opinions are open to interpretation, so why scrutinize every detail? Not agreeing with me is fine and well, but you seem to have a double standard in that department. It's ok for you to call a spade a spade, but when I do the same it's stupid, or the ramblings of a delusional fool. Again, why I detest wrestling forums. One opinion is viewed as valid and the other is discounted b/c the one person is narrow minded. And to be clear, I'm not being "sensitive" or acting like a little girl. If voicing my opinions here makes me stupid, then I guess I'll join the club. Interesting you say I take it seriously though, considering you haven't let it go. I try to stay on topic and be objective, but here that isn't gonna happen. So, good riddance.:foc:
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Old 07-01-2011, 01:12 AM   #34
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Riddle me this Viper, if Cena owns The Rock so much, why did he have to goad him into a match by taking cheap shots?
Dwayne was the one taking all the cheap shots, and stupid name calling, constantly attacking Cena on Twitter, and basically acting like a fucking child.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:48 AM   #35
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, or if it's even in the same interview, but apparently Randy Orton revealed that Dolph Ziggler is apparently dating adult film star BiBi Jones. Make "Dolph Ziggler sounds like a porn name" jokes...now!

And here's the kicker -- he apparently met her at a Britney Spears concert.
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Old 07-01-2011, 10:37 AM   #37
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And back on topic, I'm looking forward to checking this out, Orton is always good for saying what he feels as opposed to worrying about the potential 'ramifications' of it
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:11 PM   #40
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