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Tom Guycott 06-26-2011 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3563054)
This is interesting. I guess Chavo Guerrero actually wants to work and "tell stories" in the ring. I felt that the WWE had given him quite a bit of time to do that on NXT-

... you know you just shot your argument in the foot right there, don't you?

Seth82 06-26-2011 02:32 AM

would love to see Chavo show up in ROH

The Naitch 06-26-2011 03:45 AM

dammit, Kerwin White

Tom Guycott 06-26-2011 04:16 AM

SWERVE! Mistico was released. Chavo is now Sin Cara! That explains the lack of botching. The lighting treatment is so we don't notice.

"But how did they both appear in ring at the same time?"

Same way Blue Blazer did it. And Suicide. More than one guy the whole time.

The Naitch 06-26-2011 04:49 AM

will he still do a shitty version of the frogsplash in TNA?

Autobahn 06-26-2011 06:01 AM

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DLVH84 06-26-2011 05:28 PM

Maybe he'll go to Mexico, probably to AAA.

Graveler 06-26-2011 10:13 PM

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The Naitch 06-27-2011 01:27 AM

green flanel = ratings

Mr. Nerfect 06-27-2011 05:51 AM

Chavo in ROH would be pretty amazing, I'd have to say. I'd love to see him either aligned with Mike Bennett and Brutal Bob, or alongside Steve Corino and Jimmy Jacobs as "evil men trying to reform."

Schlomey 06-27-2011 06:38 AM

guess he got pissed for taking heat due to his sin cara match at the ppv.

Innovator 06-27-2011 07:53 AM

Yeah I figured the Sin Cara stuff was the last straw for him.

Mr. Nerfect 06-27-2011 08:38 AM

I honestly think it's just a case of the Carlito-type stuff. You're on the road for years, taking bumps going out there and giving 100% (and yes, I still feel that laziness was only the effect of the cause of Carlito's problems), and you understand the business, and know that you might never be a top guy (although Carly had a better chance than Chavo, and a loss of his "future star" status might have frustrated him more than never having been given that), but you sort of want to feel that you are doing *something.*

Being an opening act is not a bad thing, but when you get sore and tired and aren't content but don't see change, you just want that change of scenery. The paychecks won't be the same, but it's not about that. Until you start missing the money.

Same thing probably happened with MVP, too.

Jordan 06-27-2011 09:25 AM

I really don't think ROH would benifit from Chavo, nobody will turn their TV on and see Chavo and be like "OH SHIT HE'S HERE NOW WTF!"

Innovator 06-27-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3564240)
I honestly think it's just a case of the Carlito-type stuff. You're on the road for years, taking bumps going out there and giving 100% (and yes, I still feel that laziness was only the effect of the cause of Carlito's problems), and you understand the business, and know that you might never be a top guy (although Carly had a better chance than Chavo, and a loss of his "future star" status might have frustrated him more than never having been given that), but you sort of want to feel that you are doing *something.*

Being an opening act is not a bad thing, but when you get sore and tired and aren't content but don't see change, you just want that change of scenery. The paychecks won't be the same, but it's not about that. Until you start missing the money.

Same thing probably happened with MVP, too.

Chavo didn't do interviews bashing Triple H, so it isn't quite like Carlito's situation. Carlito was his own worst enemy.

Mr. Nerfect 06-27-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3564260)
I really don't think ROH would benifit from Chavo, nobody will turn their TV on and see Chavo and be like "OH SHIT HE'S HERE NOW WTF!"

It wouldn't be that kind of benefit. But I honestly believe Chavo could be an asset to the company. Not only with his years of experience, but he'd just be a different character to many they have. Veterans who have appeared in big promotions in the past are there, but Chavo could really find his own niche as a guy that has come to Ring of Honor because it hears it has the best wrestlers in the world. He's done with big paychecks and he wants to come in and prove that he's worthy of the Guerrero name, and win a real World Championship.

Something like that could be pretty compelling. Especially if they don't put Chavo over as some god in wrestling, but as a guy who never lived up to the highest example of his family. Chavo comes in, works some brilliant matches, starts at the bottom and works his way up. It could create a "Holy shit, is this guy actually going to do it?" vibe. Plus, lying, cheating and stealing could get over so well in ROH.

DAMN iNATOR 06-27-2011 11:26 AM

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Gertner 06-27-2011 02:06 PM

Chavo has WAY too much personality to be in ROH. Heck, he'd be their world champ in a week.

Jordan 06-27-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3564274)
It wouldn't be that kind of benefit. But I honestly believe Chavo could be an asset to the company. Not only with his years of experience, but he'd just be a different character to many they have. Veterans who have appeared in big promotions in the past are there, but Chavo could really find his own niche as a guy that has come to Ring of Honor because it hears it has the best wrestlers in the world. He's done with big paychecks and he wants to come in and prove that he's worthy of the Guerrero name, and win a real World Championship.

Something like that could be pretty compelling. Especially if they don't put Chavo over as some god in wrestling, but as a guy who never lived up to the highest example of his family. Chavo comes in, works some brilliant matches, starts at the bottom and works his way up. It could create a "Holy shit, is this guy actually going to do it?" vibe. Plus, lying, cheating and stealing could get over so well in ROH.

I do see the compelling nature of your idea, but I really feel like people would change the channel if Chavo Guerrero was a World Title Contender...

A guy who was a low card jobber for his entire career with a few mid card runs as exceptions does not make me thing "Best in the World".

To me if you put Chavo in an ROH title feud that would drastically cheapen the belt and all they have worked for it to be.

No WWE guy should EVER come in and win the title without a good long story behind. Even then, I don't want it to happen. ROH's World Title is special again, and I really do think Davey Richards will bring "The Best in the World" out of ROH.

Phenomenal 1 06-27-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3562588)
Okay then. But the taping is probably long before that.

Does the 90 day no compete count as only TV/PPV or also performances taped FOR TV/PPV?

WWE's 90-day no compete clause only applies to working for promotions and independent bookings that have syndicated television or pay-per-view programming. During the 90 day no compete clause, the no compete portion only applies that the talent can't appear on another syndicated wrestling cable television or ppv program. They can accept and work independent bookings for wrestling promotions and shows so long as the event is not televised and that does not pertain to internet broadcasting say over podcast or the promotions website. So basically you could say no ROH or TNA appearances being those are the only two companies with major syndication in multiple demographic areas.

jskinnyg 06-27-2011 06:41 PM

Chavo was one of my favs... Like Eddie he was Fucking entertaining as hell... From having Pepe thrown into the wood chipper to Kerwin White, I loved this guy... He will be missed for 90 days, get the offer and go to TNA... I might start watching again...

What Would Kevin Do? 06-27-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3564611)
I do see the compelling nature of your idea, but I really feel like people would change the channel if Chavo Guerrero was a World Title Contender...

A guy who was a low card jobber for his entire career with a few mid card runs as exceptions does not make me thing "Best in the World".

To me if you put Chavo in an ROH title feud that would drastically cheapen the belt and all they have worked for it to be.

No WWE guy should EVER come in and win the title without a good long story behind. Even then, I don't want it to happen. ROH's World Title is special again, and I really do think Davey Richards will bring "The Best in the World" out of ROH.


I have to agree with this. At best, Chavo could be TV Champ. I mean, yeah, Jamie Noble held the title, and that's pretty much the low point in my opinion. I know Chavo is recognized, but hell, so are a lot of people on the current roster.

I could see Chavo coming in to do a special double shot, and if it goes well, bring him back. But I don't see him fitting into the framework right now.

Although Kevin Steen could kill him...

Jordan 06-27-2011 07:25 PM

If he wanted to make money then he'd go to Mexico. But even there, is he a draw at all? I just don't think he's a main event level talent. The only time I didn't think that was when he was the bandanna wearing ECW Champ, I actually thought he started a character there that could draw, but WWE swept it away too quickly to know what could have happened.

It would be sad for him to leaving jobbing in WWE and go to ROH and job there.

Steen killing him in his debut with one of the new ROH guys could be cool.

But ROH has Rhino now so why would they need Chavo? They don't need another former WWE guy.

Jordan 06-27-2011 07:26 PM

Unless it's CM Fucking Punk

What Would Kevin Do? 06-27-2011 07:44 PM

There are a few WWE guys who could be huge in ROH. Chavo isn't one of them.

Lock Jaw 06-27-2011 09:00 PM

Come on. Isn't Homicide or something a former ROH Champ? Chavo could easily main event in ROH.

pj69 06-28-2011 10:10 AM

Good for him.

Anybody Thrilla 06-28-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3563054)
I'd love to see Kurt Angle vs. Chavo Guerrero, actually.

Really though? Like, for real?

DLVH84 06-28-2011 11:48 PM

There's quite a few promotions I would like to see Chavo in...

U.S. - ROH, IWA Mid-South
Japan - NJPW
Mexico - AAA

These promotions gave Eddie a chance years ago, so why not Chavo? Plus, I think Chavo would make a great Black Tiger (as Eddie did many years ago).

What Would Kevin Do? 06-28-2011 11:53 PM

IWA Mid-South is closed.

DLVH84 06-28-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 3566189)
IWA Mid-South is closed.

Damn.

erickman 06-29-2011 12:37 PM

if tna has a deal with aaa, i see him working for both, i see him doing aaa for 3 months till his no compete wwe thing is up, then i see story wise double j bringing him back with him from mexico.


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